| GrueMaster | so, NCommander stepped in to help and see what the problem with the installer was. And it didn't fail. Nothing changed, I reflashed with the same image & same cmdline to the same SD card. Booted on the same panda. | 01:42 |
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| * GrueMaster is very frustrated. | 01:42 | |
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| iceberg303 | I'm having an issue booting 10.10 on a pandaboard, but the nightly build of 11.4 boots but isn't stable. Anyone have any ideas what might be going on? | 03:36 |
| diwic | ogra, any news about omap4 sound? | 08:42 |
| === x201 is now known as panda|x201 | ||
| ogra_ | diwic, well, ndec told me yesterday that capture doesnt work yet, seems the jack is configured as mono line in, so mics dont work. | 09:56 |
| diwic | ogra_, and we're unable to reconfigure in software? | 09:57 |
| ogra_ | apparently | 09:57 |
| diwic | ogra_, fair enough, do you have a possibility to test the mono line in then? | 09:58 |
| ogra_ | i'm not sure if/how my mp3 player would work on it and i need to find a matching cable first | 09:59 |
| diwic | ogra_, line out connections are optimal to loop into a line-in, but headphone outs suffice as well. | 10:00 |
| ogra_ | well, that still requires a cable ;) | 10:01 |
| ogra_ | i know i have one but dont know where | 10:01 |
| arun_ | with the natty images, is hdmi audio on the pandaboard expected to work? | 10:24 |
| ogra_ | i dont think anybody has had the ability to test that yet | 10:26 |
| ogra_ | we are currently focusing on getting analog audio to work | 10:27 |
| ogra_ | diwic, cable found, i can record mp3's just fine playing them from my phone | 11:29 |
| ogra_ | diwic, so HiFi and Record are the verbs we want | 11:29 |
| ogra_ | diwic, udev rules tested too | 11:35 |
| diwic | ogra_, so we have working recording also? Great! Will you attach the udev rule patch (preferrably as a debdiff) to the bug and poke TheMuso to upload it? | 11:51 |
| ogra_ | diwic, well, the soundcard rules are all in udev not in alsa | 11:52 |
| ogra_ | i just pinged pitti about it in -devel | 11:52 |
| diwic | ogra_, in fact if you make your own udev rule file you can put it in any package you want | 11:53 |
| ogra_ | i think adding the two lines to /lib/udev/rules.d/78-sound-card.rules is the right thing to do | 11:53 |
| ogra_ | diwic, my prob is that i dont have any arch specific package i could put it in | 11:54 |
| diwic | ogra_, ok | 11:57 |
| diwic | ogra_, so now we have realized we can have working playback and recording without the PA patches. So then the question is, what do we gain from having the PA patches in? | 11:58 |
| diwic | ogra_, (especially if the PA patches can't even set a verb correctly...) | 11:59 |
| ogra_ | diwic, heh, you are behind, see the bug :) | 11:59 |
| ogra_ | i already commented about that, pulse can wait for O or go into a SRU if anyone has a plausible explanation why we need them | 12:00 |
| ogra_ | pitti says the udev rules need to come from alsa :/ | 12:00 |
| ogra_ | (since it ships alsaucm and the rules exec that) | 12:01 |
| diwic | ogra_, yeah, I agree | 12:01 |
| diwic | ogra_, I'd try 90-alsa-restore.rules | 12:02 |
| diwic | that ships with alsa-utils | 12:03 |
| ogra_ | ah, i was thinking to actually have 90-alsa-ucm.rules | 12:03 |
| ogra_ | from scratch | 12:04 |
| diwic | that works just as well for me | 12:05 |
| ogra_ | smells cleaner to me | 12:05 |
| diwic | yep, go for it | 12:05 |
| diwic | although that add/change logic of the soundcard initialization is mindboggling. | 12:06 |
| ogra_ | i'm trying a file with just the two lines | 12:07 |
| arun_ | ogra_, gotcha. thanks for the info. | 12:07 |
| * ogra_ twoddles thumbs while the panda reboots | 12:07 | |
| ogra_ | yup, works fine | 12:09 |
| diwic | ogra_, as for the HDMI audio, you don't have an hdmi-audio capable monitor for testing? | 12:11 |
| ogra_ | i have to re-arrange my whole setup to have the panda on my tv | 12:12 |
| diwic | ogra_, ok, and I have to go in 30 mins :-) | 12:12 |
| ogra_ | and HDMI can well be an SRU | 12:12 |
| ogra_ | if there is even one needed | 12:12 |
| ogra_ | hmpf, how does alsa-utils install the rules file | 12:13 |
| ogra_ | diwic, do you mind if i just put the file in the debian dire and cp it in place from debian/rules ? | 12:15 |
| ogra_ | *dir | 12:15 |
| arun_ | i can give it a shot. my panda's connected to my tv. i'd have to re-image my sd card though. i was playing around with various linaro images. | 12:15 |
| diwic | ogra_, I'm trying to figure out how the udev rule file gets there | 12:15 |
| ogra_ | seems the restore file is handled by autotools, i really dont want to add complexity | 12:15 |
| ogra_ | its in the Makefile of alsactl | 12:16 |
| diwic | right | 12:16 |
| diwic | yeah, I guess an "install -d" in debian/rules would do | 12:17 |
| ogra_ | right, no extra autofoo run :) | 12:17 |
| * diwic is going to add a AC_MESS_UP_FOR_DISTRO_MAINTAINERS macro in autoconf. It is not difficult enough to get it right | 12:18 | |
| ogra_ | heh | 12:20 |
| ogra_ | bah, sigh ... tetex is a build dep to even roll the source package | 12:25 |
| diwic | ogra_, hmm, as an option you could submit a merge proposal against lp:~ubuntu-audio-dev/alsa-utils/ubuntu.natty | 12:26 |
| ogra_ | doe sthat look ok ? http://paste.ubuntu.com/596500/ | 12:28 |
| diwic | ogra_, hmm, missing specification of desired file mode perhaps | 12:30 |
| diwic | i e permissions | 12:30 |
| ogra_ | like that http://paste.ubuntu.com/596504/ ? | 12:32 |
| diwic | ogra_, hmm, it doesn't exactly look like what I'm used to but probably it's correct anyway | 12:36 |
| * diwic has to go | 12:36 | |
| ogra_ | well, it ends up in the right place | 12:37 |
| ogra_ | with the right perms, i just did a testbuild | 12:37 |
| ogra_ | diwic, would you mind if i uploaded ? | 12:37 |
| * ogra_ would love to have the bug closed | 12:38 | |
| diwic | ogra_, oh I see now, you are not filtering out subsystem, add/change etc in the udev rule | 12:38 |
| ogra_ | well, there will only be one device with that ID | 12:38 |
| diwic | ogra_, I'll be back in 2-4 hours or so | 12:38 |
| ogra_ | but i can add the headers that are used in the soundcard rules | 12:38 |
| ogra_ | ok | 12:38 |
| ogra_ | do you want add/change etc ? | 12:39 |
| * ogra_ adds the lines from the other rules fine and tests | 12:40 | |
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| diwic | ogra_, reviewed your merge proposal, please fix | 14:22 |
| * ogra_ checks | 14:22 | |
| ogra_ | weird | 14:24 |
| ogra_ | diwic, hmm, i dont have any such changes in my local branch and http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ogra/alsa-utils/746023/revision/75 doesnt show any of the bits you mention | 14:26 |
| * ogra_ wonders if he used a wrong master branch | 14:26 | |
| diwic | ogra_, please remove the ENV{SOUND_INITIALIZED} in 90-alsa-ucm.rules | 14:28 |
| diwic | In best case, it's superfluos :-) | 14:29 |
| diwic | or maybe I could just do that for you and merge it into the alsa-utils branch :-) | 14:30 |
| ogra_ | new branch pushed, indeed i didnt pull originally from the right branch | 14:31 |
| diwic | been there, done that :-/ | 14:31 |
| ogra_ | http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ogra/alsa-utils/746023/revision/89 | 14:32 |
| diwic | ogra_, I removed one more line, could you verify it's still working? See https://code.launchpad.net/~diwic/alsa-utils/ubuntu.natty | 15:24 |
| ogra_ | will do, that takes a moment though since i'm just verifying a bug on the headless image | 15:26 |
| ogra_ | look sane though | 15:28 |
| ogra_ | *looks | 15:28 |
| ogra_ | grr | 15:39 |
| ogra_ | so after trying to boot an omap headless image for 20 min on the panda i found that the omap MLO doesnt work on omap4 :P | 15:40 |
| * ogra_ shakes his head about wasting his own time | 15:40 | |
| GrueMaster | heh. | 15:41 |
| ogra_ | well, at least we know now :P | 15:41 |
| ogra_ | GrueMaster, when you had that flash-kernel issue, did that happen when you manually upgraded a linux-image package or was that a regular dist-upgrade | 15:42 |
| GrueMaster | Both apt-get install & dist-upgrade. | 15:43 |
| ogra_ | hmm | 15:43 |
| ogra_ | might be the old "flash-kernel isnt run when update-initamfs -c is used" | 15:44 |
| GrueMaster | I thought that we were told that it needs to come from the kernel? | 15:44 |
| ogra_ | GrueMaster, for now i only have bug 746023, bug 747229 and 766764 on my release radar | 15:45 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 746023 in alsa-utils "No sound on omap4" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/746023 | 15:45 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 747229 in debian-installer "weird color change during oem-config debconf package removal step in serial installs" [Medium,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/747229 | 15:45 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 766764 in linux-ti-omap4 "flash-kernel not run during kernel upgrade" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/766764 | 15:45 |
| ogra_ | am i missing anything important ? | 15:45 |
| GrueMaster | Which type of beer to bring me to UDS. | 15:45 |
| ogra_ | GrueMaster, the kernel package wasnt changed in natty, i added a spec idea for exactly that prob | 15:46 |
| ogra_ | so -c still doesnt work | 15:46 |
| ogra_ | but that should actually only affect release to release upgrades | 15:46 |
| GrueMaster | That is bug 701698. | 15:49 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 701698 in boot "update-initramfs -c does not update the bootloader" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/701698 | 15:49 |
| ogra_ | yep | 15:49 |
| ogra_ | that requires massive redesign of the whole arm bootloader handling | 15:50 |
| ogra_ | which is why i want to make it a spec | 15:50 |
| GrueMaster | Go for it. | 16:04 |
| ogra | diwic, works fine, go for it | 16:12 |
| diwic | ogra, TheMuso, ok, I've test-built and test-run it on my machine here, and it didn't seem to have destroyed anything, so pushed to lp:~ubuntu-audio-dev/alsa-utils/ubuntu.natty - upload at will. | 16:59 |
| ogra_ | wohoo | 16:59 |
| === diwic is now known as diwic_afk | ||
| ogra_ | diwic_afk, TheMuso, uploaded, thanks | 17:13 |
| ogra_ | GrueMaster, just dist-upgraded a beta2 image to todays archive, no issues with flash-kernel | 18:11 |
| GrueMaster | I think there are other packages that force update-initramfs -u. | 18:12 |
| ogra_ | might be | 18:12 |
| GrueMaster | Try installing everything that dist-upgrade recommends, except the kernel. Then do dist-upgrade. | 18:12 |
| ogra_ | to late :) | 18:13 |
| GrueMaster | I'll try it here to verify in a little bit. Currently wiping/reformatting my SD. | 18:13 |
| ogra_ | \o/ | 18:14 |
| ogra_ | alsa-utils is in | 18:14 |
| ogra_ | and python-apt too | 18:14 |
| ogra_ | so sound and sources.list should be fine now | 18:14 |
| GrueMaster | cool | 18:14 |
| GrueMaster | Now if we could just get another daily image to build... | 18:15 |
| ogra_ | we only have the serial colors left (which is really minor cosmetic) and the üpossible flash-kernel thing | 18:15 |
| ogra_ | archive is messed up due to the last minute fixes | 18:15 |
| ogra_ | that will settle until tomorrow | 18:15 |
| iceberg303 | I have the 10.10 ubuntu on a 4G sd for pandaboard(omap4) and things were ok till I did an update. Things started taking forever to boot and to log in, then I installed the ti omap extras and now it takes about 15min to boot and 30+min to log in. I can wipe the card and go back no problem but every time I get the same results. Is there a list of things that should not be updated? | 20:09 |
| jayabharath | ogra_: there have been a few reports on natty beta's not working on pandaboard's are there any known major issues that you are aware of... before I go give it a run | 20:17 |
| billfarrow | Hey, is anyone using the genesi efika mx smartbook ? are you happy with it ? | 20:37 |
| billfarrow | I was looking for a new netbook, and this looked interesting since I am already developing for an i.mx processor at work. | 20:40 |
| davidm | jayabharath, as best I know we are good to go on B2 | 20:44 |
| davidm | jayabharath, it's quite late in ogra's neck of the world | 20:44 |
| GrueMaster | jayabharath: The only thing I really am aware of is random issues with the SD cards. Sometimes I'll get SDIO errors during oem-config, other times oem-config will just crash mid-install. Nothing to indicate why. Reflashing usually clears it up. | 20:55 |
| GrueMaster | I am working on a theory, but since the issues I am seeing are so random and hard to reproduce, it is harder to have a good testcase. | 20:55 |
| jayabharath | GrueMaster: davidm I see.. thanks | 21:20 |
| jayabharath | let me look up the recent thread on pandaboard ml for reference | 21:20 |
| GrueMaster | http://groups.google.com/group/pandaboard/browse_thread/thread/aa46ddf46df2d946 | 21:21 |
| GrueMaster | Already commented on it. :) | 21:21 |
| jayabharath | GrueMaster: u r faster .. yeah this was one... | 21:21 |
| GrueMaster | I had it open. | 21:21 |
| jayabharath | let me then try b2 image and see if it works ok for me.. thanks!! | 21:22 |
| TheMuso | ogra_: Thanks. | 22:36 |
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