[03:18] <edlik1> I can not get my scanner to work. Brother mfc-6490. I installed the software through the software center but I must be missing something
[03:21] <holstein> looks like duanedesign has experience with that device
[03:21] <holstein> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1195552
[04:15] <mikehj316> hello
[04:15] <mikehj316> all
[04:15] <holstein> o/
[05:24] <UbuntuN00b> anyone know how to use 7zip through terminal to unrar 2 files of the same archive
[05:25] <bioterror> !man  | UbuntuN00b
[05:25] <ubot2> UbuntuN00b: The "man" command brings up the Linux manual pages for the command you're interested in. Try "man intro" at the  command line, or see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal | Manpages online: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/
[05:26] <bioterror> after some reading, you know it too
[08:13] <drzaius12> Can anyone tell me if it is possible to install a different kernel in ubuntu?
[08:16] <bioterror> yes
[08:16] <bioterror> it is possible
[08:16] <bioterror> but most of the time generic works juuuuuust fine
[08:19] <drzaius12> Well, I was feeling that I was getting the hang of Ubuntu, and decided to take the plunge into Natty territory. The upgrade went fine, and the system works great, but the newer kernel does not work with my wireless network. Would I be able to install a version of the older kernel on th newer OS?
[08:19] <bioterror> yes
[08:20] <bioterror> you can do it by hand fetching couple of files and dpkg -i
[08:21] <bioterror> http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/ there you go
[08:23] <drzaius12> So, if I do this with dpkg, it will take care of dependencies and links and stuff so that Natty still runs, just on an older kernel (Except for stuff that requires certain kernel updates of course)?
[08:24] <bioterror> uno momento
[08:24] <bioterror> https://launchpad.net/~kernel-ppa/+archive/ppa or you can add this ppa
[08:24] <bioterror> and use apt-get
[10:38] <Brady_1> Hello all. I'm trying to backup a file from my unbuntu 10.4 server vps to my desktop. Can anyone help?
[10:39] <geirha> Places -> Connect to server -> Type: ssh, Host: your.vps.hostname, ...
[10:40] <geirha> Then drag and drop the files you want to copy
[10:40] <geirha> Assuming of course you have ssh access to it.
[10:40] <Brady_1> Places under windows or Pidgin or..?
[10:40] <Brady_1> I'm using PuTTY
[10:40] <geirha> Oh, I assumed you were using ubuntu on the desktop too
[10:40] <Brady_1> Sadly no
[10:41] <geirha> I'm not so good with windows, but I know there's a program named WinSCP
[10:42] <geirha> Which you can use to connect via ssh, then drag and drop files
[10:42] <Brady_1> It's GUI based?
[10:43] <Brady_1> I see
[10:43] <Brady_1> Very nice
[10:43] <Brady_1> Thank you
[10:45] <Brady_1> This is actually exactly what I've been needing. As someone who just started using VPS's and Unbuntu yesterday I'm ecstatic.
[10:51] <Brady_1> Hmm. So I should be able to use WinSCH the same way I use my command line pretty much?
[10:53] <Brady_1> I'm not able to connect to the Ubuntu server via WinSCP
[10:56] <Brady_1> "Cannot initialize SFTP protocol. Is the host running a SFTP server?"
[10:58] <Brady_1> when trying SCP- "Error skipping startup message. Your shell is probably incompatible with the application (BASH is recommended).
[10:58] <Brady_1> "
[10:58] <Brady_1> any ideas?
[11:06] <ray> Hello
[11:07] <ray> I am looking for an add-on as good as Bookmark Duplicate Detector but for Firefox 3.6.16
[11:23] <ray> Never mind, I found checkplaces
[11:23] <ray> for finding duplicate bookmarks
[11:24] <ray> bye
[14:05] <avinashhm> Hi guys , I am on ubuntu 10.10 .. I am trying to start trace32 application, which used bitmap fonts .. but X-windows is ending with fatal error saying, bitmap fonts may be disabled .. more logs @ http://paste.ubuntu.com/596533/ .. can any one help me pls.
[14:48] <javatexan> what is a good api for creating pdfs from templates.....with like annotated fields filled out via db pull type of thing?
[14:50] <s-fox> javatexan,  Is this for a web application?
[14:51] <javatexan> yes
[14:51] <javatexan> or it doesn't have to be, I could make it a gnome app too, I guess
[14:52] <javatexan> the ui doesn't exist yet... ;)  its officially vaporware
[14:54] <javatexan> just trying to get all the tools in place
[14:54] <s-fox> I would create an xfdf file using php simple xml  and then "stamp" it onto the template using pdftk
[14:55] <javatexan> cool, I will look into i
[14:55] <javatexan> it
[15:18] <avinashhm> Hi , i am getting bitmaps error, when i start my application .. more logs @ http://paste.ubuntu.com/596533/..can some one please help ?
[15:19] <holstein> avinashhm: i'll look around some more about that
[15:19] <holstein> whats the application?
[15:19] <holstein> where did you get it?
[15:19] <holstein> the repos?
[15:21] <avinashhm> holstein, it is lauterbach software ...debugger ..
[15:21] <avinashhm> got it from http://www.lauterbach.com/frames.html?home.html ..
[15:22] <holstein> avinashhm: is it compatible with ubuntu?
[15:22] <avinashhm> holstein, yeah .. it is .. it used to run with 9.04 on my pc ..
[15:22] <avinashhm> holstein, is there any way to check is bitmap enabled or not in my ubuntu 10.10 ?
[15:22] <avinashhm> bitmap font ?
[15:23] <holstein> not sure
[15:23] <holstein> i used to install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[15:24] <holstein> theres a bunch of stuff in that meta package
[15:24] <holstein> including a bunch of fonts
[15:24] <avinashhm> i see that its already there .../etc/fonts/conf.available/ ... but by default only no-bitmaps is linked ..
[15:25] <holstein> would those fonts be in msttcorefonts ?
[15:25] <avinashhm> I changed the symlink to 70-yes-bitmaps.conf .. ran fc but no use ..
[15:26] <avinashhm> holstein, sorry , i don't know .. how can i check ?
[15:26] <holstein> avinashhm: well, you can install that package
[15:26] <holstein> and try it
[15:26] <holstein> http://www.alanbriolat.co.uk/2009/04/enable-bitmap-fonts-on-ubuntu-jaunty/
[15:27] <holstein> this looks relevant
[15:27] <avinashhm> holstein, i followed exact same thing ;-) .. but still didn't work ..then linked to 70-yes-bitmaps.conf
[15:28] <holstein> avinashhm: i would explore the support outlets of the package maintainer
[15:28] <holstein> or try oler versions of the software maybe
[15:28] <holstein> older*
[15:28] <holstein> i mean, feel free to hang here
[15:28] <holstein> and repost every couple hours
[15:29] <avinashhm> holstein, i have written to lauterbach .. may be ll take a day / 2 .. i though t i ll check if it is enabled ...
[15:29] <holstein> but i think http://www.lauterbach.com/frames.html?home.html is where to go
[15:29] <avinashhm> holstein, ;-) .. ppl ll kill if i repost every couple hours ..
[15:29] <holstein> avinashhm: i dont think anyone will care much in here
[15:30] <avinashhm> support -> download center -> download updates .. linux , debugger, arm .. search
[15:30] <holstein> and you already started that trend earlier anyways...
[15:30] <avinashhm> ;-)
[15:30] <avinashhm> i know that was bad ..
[15:30] <holstein> nah, its a tough one
[15:31] <Shoryu> Ubuntu 10.10 x86: Hi... how do I enable core dumps for just root without logging into root and doing a ulimit -c unlimited? I already set the rules in /etc/security/limits.conf, but they don't seem to have any affect.
[15:33] <avinashhm> holstein, thanks for u r time dude .. i appreciate ..
[15:33] <holstein> avinashhm: wish i had more for you.. good luck
[15:34] <holstein> Shoryu: you could pastebin that rules file i suppose
[15:34] <holstein> i used to edit in there for audio work
[15:34] <holstein> but havent needed to for a couple releases now
[15:35] <holstein> and i never needed that exact funcionality*
[15:35] <Shoryu> Oh snap. Didn't finish my question...
[15:35] <Shoryu> Reason I want ulimit -c unlimited to be automatic is for *cron* jobs.
[15:35] <Shoryu> and scripts run with *sudo*. It doesn't seem you get the ulimit's of the user your suddoing.
[15:36] <Shoryu> afaik, ulimit stuff is for bash only.
[15:36] <Shoryu> So if I want a java process to automatically dump a core if it crashes, how would I do that if it's run outside of bash?
[15:37] <holstein> thats a bit over my head
[15:37] <holstein> maybe ##linux ?
[15:38] <Shoryu> i thought so... ##linux looks like a development channel, not a support channel, but i'll try
[15:38] <popey> Shoryu: why dont you want to do it as root?
[15:38] <popey> " without logging into root"
[15:39] <popey> just do "sudo -s" then do it
[15:39] <Shoryu> well I might as well do that, but i don't log in as root unless I need to.
[15:39] <popey> well, you need to :)
[15:39] <Shoryu> ah
[15:42] <Shoryu> thanks anyways
[16:20] <deuce> hallo
[16:20] <deuce> need help
[16:20] <deuce> anyone?
[16:20] <bioterror> !ask | deuce
[16:20] <ubot2> deuce: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)
[16:21] <deuce> !ask
[16:21] <ubot2> Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)
[16:21] <deuce> i plan to use ubuntu server to handle 10 windows workstation
[16:22] <deuce> where should i begin with?
[16:23] <holstein> deuce: define 'handle'
[16:25] <deuce> i mean use linux as server for sharing file , because winxp has limited connectivity for network sharing just for 10 pc
[16:25] <holstein> so, a samba server is the goal?
[16:25] <deuce> any distro can u suggest for me?
[16:25] <holstein> http://releases.ubuntu.com/lucid/
[16:26] <holstein> the server CD is there
[16:26] <holstein> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Samba
[16:26] <deuce> i already download it. not install yet
[16:27] <deuce> im not familiar with linux server distro
[16:27] <holstein> i like http://freenas.org/downloads too
[16:28] <holstein> its an easy way to set up a samba server or whatever
[16:28] <deuce> for network setting .. is it auto dhcp or?
[16:28] <holstein> deuce: whatever you want to set it up to use
[16:28] <holstein> i usually give my servers a static IP
[16:28] <holstein> so i can find them
[16:28] <holstein> and forward ports to them
[16:29] <holstein> but, thats up to you
[16:29] <deuce> and im not good in terminal command for network setting
[16:29] <deuce> is it got gui?
[16:30] <holstein> your server doesnt have to be command line only
[16:30] <bioterror> holstein, I assume you can put 50/50 deuces salary ;)
[16:30] <holstein> you can istall the normal ubuntu
[16:30] <holstein> and run a samba server on it
[16:30] <holstein> bioterror: ;)
[16:31] <holstein> i started doing that
[16:31] <holstein> with xubuntu actually
[16:32] <JoeMaverickSett> deuce: Although this guide is for 5.10, most of it can still be applied on/to 10.04 and others; http://www.howtoforge.com/samba_setup_ubuntu_5.10
[16:32] <holstein> connecting to the headless server with VNC
[16:32] <deuce> i want to share my problem here , i hope u can give me opinion from your experience
[16:32] <holstein> since i was more comfortable with a desktop GUI at the time
[16:32] <holstein> now i just SSH
[16:33] <bioterror> remote desktop to windows server 2003/2008 kicks ass
[16:33] <JoeMaverickSett> deuce: you would probably want to hold on to this; http://goo.gl/ZXM9D
[16:33] <JoeMaverickSett> bioterror: <3 :D
[16:33] <bioterror> that's "like a boss" -solution
[16:33] <deuce> actually, company that i work for still using winxp as server.. its sound suxk
[16:33] <bioterror> windows xp was never ment to be a server
[16:33] <bioterror> 2000, 2003 and 2008 are
[16:33] <deuce> and we are running visual fox pro program
[16:34] <deuce> very2 lag
[16:34] <deuce> very suxc
[16:34] <holstein> maybe its the network
[16:34] <holstein> if you're just serving audio, i found http://sockso.pu-gh.com/ to be easy
[16:35] <deuce> ok for network problem.. i just connect a wifi router to 24port switch
[16:36] <deuce> they all just connect from port with auto dhcp
[16:36] <deuce> im not good in network setting
[16:36] <holstein> i have a hard enough time maintaining my network
[16:36] <bioterror> deuce, where can I send my CV?-)
[16:36] <deuce> cv?
[16:36] <bioterror> curriculum vitae
[16:36] <holstein> just dont rule out a network problem
[16:36] <holstein> linux is great, and i prefer it to windows
[16:36] <holstein> but its not magic
[16:36] <deuce> man... im not good enough in english.. but i try to talk with it
[16:37] <holstein> if you have a network problem, it'll be a problem for linux as well
[16:37] <holstein> i like using http://www.dd-wrt.com/site/index where possible
[16:37] <deuce> so can u all suggest me the proper networking setting
[16:38] <holstein> not really
[16:38] <holstein> depends on your needs
[16:38] <deuce> any diagram or whutever that i can learn from
[16:39] <deuce> the visual fox pro database getting bigger everyday.. more that 2gb now
[16:39] <deuce> so every pc use the same database for searching, keying and etc
[16:41] <holstein> these are handy too http://www.turnkeylinux.org/fileserver
[16:44] <deuce> dd-wrt is for what?
[16:45] <holstein> thats the router firmware i like to use
[16:45] <holstein> when possible
[16:45] <holstein> *not that you need it
[16:48] <deuce> im just using d-link wifi router , provide from isp
[16:49] <deuce> DSL-2640B
[16:49] <holstein> cool
[16:49] <deuce> is it good?
[16:50] <holstein> you tell me :)
[16:50] <holstein> i use as little as possible from my ISP
[16:50] <holstein> i have my own modem and routers
[16:50] <holstein> but, my ISP might not be as knowlegable as yours
[16:52] <deuce> man.. can this router manage the whole network for over 40 pc?
[16:52] <deuce> i need to restart this router many time.. because always lag
[16:53] <holstein> depends really
[16:53] <deuce> im not sure ., is it because of windows or this router
[16:53] <holstein> supplying internet to 40 machines
[16:53] <holstein> that can require a lot of bandwidth
[16:53] <holstein> from the ISP
[16:54] <deuce> yeah... and my isp really suxc
[16:54] <holstein> but, if most of the traffic is on your local network
[16:54] <holstein> that will help
[16:54] <deuce> actually , we are not really use internet so much
[16:54] <holstein> if i had 40 boxes
[16:55] <holstein> and i needed to share big files often
[16:55] <holstein> i would want gigabit lan probably
[16:55] <holstein> if possible
[16:55] <holstein> something fast and hard-wired
[16:55] <holstein> that *should* allow for really nice speeds on the local network
[16:55] <deuce> my companye use 10/100 only
[16:56] <holstein> deuce: and i do here too
[16:56] <holstein> but im not dealing with 40 machine
[16:56] <holstein> on the hardware the ISP provided me
[16:57] <deuce> do u have any idea for LAN setting in proper way?
[16:59] <holstein> well, like i said
[17:00] <holstein> i would probably be aiming for gigabit where possible
[17:00] <deuce> for router modem?
[17:01] <holstein> well, whatever
[17:01] <holstein> just between the computers on the local network
[17:01] <holstein> if thats where speed is an issu
[17:01] <holstein> e
[19:18] <Newby2011> is this active
[19:18] <charlie-tca> Newby2011: yes
[19:22] <coz_> Newby2011,  what's up?
[19:22] <Newby2011> I'm looking for help dual booting ubuntu 8.10 with xp. Not sure how to manually partition the disk. XPcrashed with a virus and am wondering if it is safe to save documents and photos etc to ubuntu. I am usng a live boot disk now.
[19:23] <coz_> Newby2011, ` first ,, no windows virus will transfer over to ubuntu  so dont worry about it
[19:23] <Newby2011> ok
[19:23] <coz_> Newby2011,  secondly  are you going to reinstall xp?
[19:23] <Newby2011> yes
[19:24] <coz_> Newby2011, ok  then first reinstall xp  and divide the hard drive in half with its partitioner
[19:24] <coz_> Newby2011,  that will make it easy when you install ubuntu  after you install xp... the secondary partitioin will be picked up with ubuntu's partitioner
[19:24] <Newby2011> won't i lose my docs if i do that?
[19:24] <coz_> Newby2011,  ah
[19:25] <coz_> Newby2011,   well  so you want to install ubuntu...pull the documents from xp  and then reinstall xp ?
[19:25] <Newby2011> yes
[19:25] <coz_> Newby2011,  can you just back up the documents/ files on xp to a flash drive or cd  and then just reinstall xp first?
[19:25] <Newby2011> xp will not load at all
[19:26] <coz_> Newby2011,  oh! it is preventing back up?
[19:26] <Newby2011> yes, it will not boot.
[19:27] <charlie-tca> um, 8.10 is really old
[19:27] <coz_> Newby2011,  mm  the only problem I see wiht installing ubuntu now is that xp is not defragged
[19:28] <coz_> Newby2011,  there is a possiblilty that when you partiion the drive with ubuntu,,, some files from xp may be on the new partion and they will be lost
[19:28] <Newby2011> charlie i know its 4 years old but it is what i have :)
[19:29] <Newby2011> ubuntu will overwrite ex files?
[19:29] <Newby2011> xp
[19:29] <coz_> Newby2011,  if they are on the ubuntu partiion they will yes,,  because you cannot defrag  xp at this point
[19:30] <coz_> Newby2011,  however,.,, if you install ubuntu and use just a few gigs of the hard drive for ubuntu right now  so that you can pull off the files you need,,, then start over with the xp install ,, creating a partion from there and then install ubuntu
[19:31] <coz_> Newby2011,  ubuntu's partiioner has a "slider"  that allows you to adjust the amount of space for the ubuntu partiion
[19:31] <coz_> Newby2011,  it is pretty self explanetory
[19:34] <Newby2011> i can try that, thanks
[19:35] <Newby2011> how do i pull spific files fron the drive with ubuntu?
[19:36] <Newby2011> spific, i cant spell
[19:36] <holstein> pull?
[19:37] <Newby2011> you said i could pull off the files i need
[19:37] <holstein> you mean copy?
[19:37] <holstein> copy and paste them somewhere else?
[19:37] <holstein> mount the drive
[19:38] <holstein> the source drive
[19:38] <holstein> and mount the destination drive
[19:38] <holstein> and copy and paste in whatever fashion you feel comfortalbe
[19:38] <Newby2011> i am using a laptop and have no where to mount the drive
[19:39] <holstein> what drive?
[19:39] <holstein> if you cant mount the drive
[19:39] <holstein> you cant get anything off of it then
[19:39] <holstein> i thought you were talking about the internal hard drive
[19:40] <holstein> copying to a USB drive/stick or something
[19:40] <Newby2011> yes on my laptop
[19:40] <holstein> you can do that with a live CD
[19:40] <holstein> the source would be the internal drive
[19:40] <Newby2011> how?
[19:40] <holstein> Newby2011: however you want
[19:40] <holstein> i usually just open the file manager
[19:40] <holstein> and click on it
[19:40] <holstein> but, you can do it however you feel comfortable
[19:41] <Newby2011> ok i will try that, thanks
[19:41] <holstein> Newby2011: well, dont try it
[19:41] <holstein> just mount the source and destination
[19:41] <holstein> and move the data
[19:41] <holstein> its a machine
[19:41] <holstein> tell it what to do :)
[19:42] <Newby2011> how do i mount the source and destination.?
[19:42] <holstein> well, like i suggested
[19:42] <holstein> i usually open the file manager
[19:42] <holstein> and click on them
[19:42] <holstein> BUT, if you boot the live CD
[19:43] <holstein> you should see the volume on the deskop
[19:43] <holstein> depending on what live CD you have
[19:43] <holstein> and when/if you insert a USB stick
[19:43] <holstein> you'll see that volume on the desktop too
[19:43] <holstein> Newby2011: do you have a LIVE cd burned?
[19:44] <holstein> if you want, get one
[19:44] <holstein> burn it
[19:44] <holstein> or make a bootable USB stick
[19:44] <holstein> and boot into it
[19:44] <Newby2011> yes, I expalined that before. That is how i am here now
[19:44] <holstein> it'll be much easier for me to talk you through the process if you are on the desktop
[19:44] <Newby2011> ubuntu 8,10 live
[19:44] <holstein> right
[19:44] <holstein> get you a 10.04 live at least
[19:45] <Newby2011> why?
[19:45] <holstein> http://releases.ubuntu.com/lucid/
[19:45] <holstein> Newby2011: i thought you were here for help and suggestions?
[19:45] <holstein> my suggestion is to get a newer iso
[19:46] <holstein> because 8.10 is not supported
[19:46] <holstein> and you are obviously having issues with it
[19:46] <holstein> for one reason or another
[19:46] <Newby2011> can i download that live cd using the one in the machine now?
[19:46] <holstein> and i think for troubleshooting purposes
[19:46] <holstein> it would be easier for you to download a newer more modern and appropriate iso for a live CD
[19:47] <holstein> than to figure out what, if anything, is wrong with the outdated one you have
[19:48] <holstein> Newby2011: what is the issue with the live CD you have?
[19:48] <holstein> it wont boot?
[19:48] <virgo> hi
[19:48] <Newby2011> my inexperience is the issue. im here looking for help.
[19:48] <holstein> Newby2011: OK
[19:48] <virgo> i am looking for help to install something
[19:48] <holstein> so, where are you?
[19:48] <holstein> do you know what i mean by boot the live CD?
[19:49] <holstein> do you know if the machine is capable of booting the CD?
[19:49] <holstein> all bioses are different
[19:49] <holstein> and usually, you ned to enter the bios
[19:49] <Newby2011> yes, i have done that. I'm running it now
[19:49] <holstein> Newby2011: running what?
[19:49] <holstein> the bios?
[19:49] <holstein> or the live CD?
[19:49] <holstein> virgo: shout it out :)
[19:49] <Newby2011> live cd
[19:50] <holstein> Newby2011: OK, so you are looking at the ubuntu desktop then?
[19:50] <holstein> live?
[19:50] <holstein> booted from CD?
[19:50] <holstein> correct?
[19:50] <Newby2011> yes
[19:50] <holstein> OK
[19:50] <Newby2011> yes
[19:50] <holstein> and the internal hard drive is?
[19:50] <holstein> windows?
[19:50] <Newby2011> yes
[19:50] <virgo> i am trying to install anjuta-3.0.0 from source
[19:50] <holstein> is that the only drive Newby2011 ?
[19:50] <holstein> just the one?
[19:50] <Newby2011> yes
[19:50] <virgo> but i get errors with ./configure command
[19:51] <Newby2011> i have a usb external
[19:51] <Newby2011> seagate
[19:51] <virgo> for example on error from terminal: glib-2.0 >= 2.28.0
[19:51] <virgo> but i did install all the newer versions
[19:51] <virgo> but it still says that there is no 2.28
[19:52] <Newby2011> holstein i'll b back if i need more help. thansk. bye
[19:53] <holstein> Newby2011: they should just show up there
[19:53] <holstein> in the file manager
[19:53] <holstein> just click on them
[19:53] <holstein> like you do (kind of) in XP
[19:54] <Newby2011> ok
[19:54] <holstein> virgo: did you read the readme file?
[19:54] <holstein> is there a good readme?
[19:54] <holstein> virgo: why not use the one in the repos?
[19:55] <virgo> but it is version 2. something
[19:56] <holstein> how about https://launchpad.net/~jacob/+archive/anjuta ?
[19:56] <holstein> you need 3.x ?
[19:56] <virgo> yes, i was trying to test it
[19:57] <virgo> i must say i did not fully read the readme file XD
[19:57] <holstein> i would say, not able to install with current dep's from the default repositories is a valid test result
[19:58] <holstein> the http://projects.gnome.org/anjuta/downloads.html area of the site lays it out pretty good
[19:58] <virgo> so i just should wait until i can install this automatically with apt-get command?
[19:58] <holstein> who knows what hoops you'll have to hop through though
[19:58] <holstein> to satisfy deps
[19:58] <holstein> virgo: well, if you need it, you need it
[20:08] <virgo> yeah, but why does the anjuta-3 ./configure command recognise that i have installed some dep's?
[20:09] <holstein> virgo: it should say
[20:09] <holstein> it should complain specifically right?
[20:09] <holstein> about what it needs
[20:09] <virgo> yes
[20:09] <virgo> 4 deps it says are bad
[20:09] <virgo> then i downloaded them all
[20:09] <virgo> and installed same way
[20:09] <virgo> from tar.gz packages
[20:10] <virgo> then run again anjuta-3 ./configure and still same
[20:10] <holstein> virgo: im not sure
[20:10] <holstein> you'd have to trouble shoot them one at a time
[20:11] <virgo> may be i should use some update command rather than make and make install
[20:12] <holstein> i like to stick to whats in the repos
[20:12] <holstein> or PPA
[20:12] <holstein> then maybe a random .deb here and there
[20:12] <holstein> but, you should be able to sort that out
[20:12] <holstein> and hopefully not break anything else
[20:13] <virgo> yeah, messing around like this can do some damage
[20:13] <virgo> after installing these last packages and reboot, my system looks alot different :D
[20:14] <virgo> icons and stuff
[20:14] <holstein> yeah, thats not good :/
[20:14] <holstein> im sure you can sort it out though
[20:14] <holstein> just keep track of what you did
[20:17] <virgo> thanks for help :)
[20:23] <virgo> who are most of the people who develop all this os software?
[20:23] <virgo> students?
[20:25] <pleia2> a lot of companies
[20:25] <pleia2> some students, some folks who work in the industry and do development on the side
[22:45] <Brady_1> can anyone tell me of a good windows based GUI program that can connect to an unbuntu server vps?
[22:45] <Brady_1> for the purpose of file transfer and such
[23:06] <holstein> Brady_1: ssh?
[23:06] <holstein> http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[23:07] <holstein> maybe http://filezilla-project.org/
[23:10] <Brady_1> SSH.. yes I believe so. I have no prior experience with this sort of thing but I've been making progress. What I need is a GUI interface to drag and drop files as well as a command line. Someone suggest WinSCP but I can't get it to connect even though PuTTY does no problem. I will check those out and report back, thanks.
[23:16] <Brady_1> Both filezilla and winscp are timing out when attempting to connect to the VPS AFTER username and pass are authenticated.
[23:16] <Brady_1> In my console on my web based VPS control panel it asks me to log in to the powershell first and then the VPS, could this be the problem?