[00:01] <Daviey> AlanBell, If you are bored... grep for request.params._theme ... that needs replicating to sections that call request.params.username  (not quite sure if username or userId is the one we care about)
[00:01] <Daviey> :)
[00:01] <Daviey> I need to walk away from the pooter.
[00:01] <AlanBell> me too, tomorrow seems to have just happened
[00:02] <AlanBell> jono: jcastro: did you see http://ubingo.libertus.co.uk/ I need to update it with some new buzzwords
[00:02] <jono> AlanBell, haha
[00:03] <AlanBell> clickable words and they are different if you refresh
[00:03] <jono> AlanBell, you missed off "Crisp" and "Clean"
[00:03] <jono> :-)
[00:03] <AlanBell> they are in the list!
[00:03] <Daviey> Chasm ?
[00:04] <AlanBell> yup, it is there
[00:04] <AlanBell> as is "windicator"
[00:04] <Daviey> banana hammock ?
[00:04] <jono> haha
[00:05] <AlanBell> bacon is in there too somewhere
[00:05] <AlanBell> need to take out Florida and add Budapest
[00:06] <jono> :-)
[01:06] <jono> jcastro, http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=157036
[01:40] <mhall119> Daviey: different vhosts can have difference aliases, correct?
[01:51] <mhall119> dyed easter eggs with the kids today.  Mine: http://imagebin.org/149159
[01:52] <mhall119> back: http://imagebin.org/149160
[01:53] <mhall119> Michelle's: http://imagebin.org/149161
[04:32] <nigelb> morning
[04:33] <nigelb> and good nes for today, I just bricked the package management on my new laptop
[04:33] <nigelb> sigh
[04:33] <pleia2> why'd you go and do that?
[04:33] <nigelb> pleia2: ran the installation script for work. It did some crazy mess
[04:34] <nigelb> (of note, I wrote the installation script)
[04:34] <pleia2> doh
[04:34] <nigelb> I'm thinking its because I'm running 10.10 and work laptop is running 10.04
[04:35] <nigelb> s/work laptop/the laptop I wrote the script on/
[05:12] <mhall119> holy moly I'm tired
[05:22] <paultag> hey guys.
[05:23] <Technoviking> evening
[05:23] <paultag> Technoviking: wjat
[05:23] <paultag> Technoviking: what's new?
[05:23] <paultag> damn keyboard.
[05:23] <Technoviking> not much
[05:24] <Technoviking> on irc instead on finishing paper due tomorrow
[05:24] <paultag> Technoviking: know the feeling, for sure
[05:25] <paultag> Technoviking: got stood up by a girl tonight. That was fun.
[05:25] <paultag> first time that's ever happened
[05:25] <paultag> wow, why am I saying this on IRC
[05:28] <Technoviking> heh
[05:28] <Technoviking> later, I do need to finish before I hit the sack:)
[05:29] <paultag> Technoviking: night, good luck!
[05:48] <nigelb> mhall119: the bad new is, its only tuesday. good news -> long weekend ahead :)
[06:33] <jussi> Morning peoples!
[06:34] <jussi> jono: ping?
[06:35] <jono> hey jussi
[06:35] <jussi> jono: if you would, Id love it if you could retweet this super tweet? http://twitter.com/#!/JustMeAmber/status/60406017237856256
[06:35] <jussi> especially as its music related :)
[06:36] <jussi> (if you havent already - I didnt actually look)
[06:40] <jono> jussi, you just want to use my twitter account? ;-)
[06:41] <jono> done :-)
[06:41] <jussi> jono: :D
[06:41] <jussi> thanks
[06:44] <nigelb> morning jussi, evening jono
[06:44] <jono> hey nigelb
[06:45] <nigelb> Phew, reintstall ubuntu after bricking it :p
[06:46] <nigelb> +ed
[07:42] <duanedesign> morning all
[07:43] <jussi> nigelb: "bricking it" ?
[08:03] <nigelb> jussi: I installed my work thing on it, broke a bunch of stuff :\
[08:03] <nigelb> jussi: (I wrote the install script myself :p)
[08:03] <nigelb> so now I have ot fix laptop and install script
[08:06] <jussi> hehe
[08:09] <duanedesign> nigelb: oh no your new laptop?
[08:17] <nigelb> duanedesign: buhaha, already reinstalled Ubuntu, re-running the setup script to see if it bricks again ;)
[08:25] <duanedesign> good luck!
[08:25] <duanedesign> nigelb: is this a script you wrote?
[08:26] <duanedesign> i have noticed you have been messing around with BASH lately
[08:28] <nigelb> duanedesign: yup, it is
[08:29] <nigelb> I've been messing around massively. There was an existing script, which I was asked to fix, but it was broke, so I rewrote the whole thing :-)
[08:34] <dpm> good morning all
[08:52] <dholbach> good morning
[09:01] <nigelb> hey dpm, hello dholbach
[09:02] <dholbach> hey nigelb
[09:04] <kim0> morning all
[09:04] <kim0> nigelb hey
[09:04] <nigelb> hello kim0
[09:05] <dholbach> hey kim0
[09:05] <kim0> dholbach: hi there
[09:13] <duanedesign> 'lo kim0 dholbach
[09:13] <dholbach> hey duanedesign
[09:14] <kim0> duanedesign: hello o/
[09:15]  * duanedesign just spent the lst hour deleting spam from the forums
[09:17] <kim0> ew
[09:56] <huats> morning
[10:03] <duanedesign> hello huats
[10:03] <huats> hello duanedesign
[10:03] <huats> I have seen your email
[10:03] <huats> I plan to answer it later this week :)
[10:04] <duanedesign> huats: great. Thank you
[11:57] <czajkowski> addcitive tune :/
[11:57] <czajkowski> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v4Wy7gRGgeA CODE MONKEY
[12:11] <cjohnston> mornin
[12:13] <popey> pip pip!
[12:20] <czajkowski> i really do wonder about you popey at times
[12:21] <popey> Welcome to the club.
[12:21] <popey> https://bugs.launchpad.net/popey/+filebug
[12:24] <cjohnston> Should I file a bug to ensure that all nuts and bolts in popey's head are tightened properly?
[12:25] <jussi> awww: There are currently no bugs filed against popey.
[12:26]  * jussi resists making jokes abour the driver of popey packages. :D
[12:59] <mhall119> morning
[13:05] <salgado> morning mhall119
[13:05]  * popey read jussi's comment as "popey pancakes", now I want pancakes
[13:06] <popey> but not popey pancakes
[13:06] <Pici> Theres a joke there, but I'm not touching it.
[13:07] <jussi> I want pancakes too! but I cant eat flour :(
[13:07] <Pici> Gluten intolerance?
[13:10] <mhall119> czajkowski: awesome video
[13:11] <jussi> Pici: no, low card diet currently
[13:11] <jussi> carb
[13:17] <mhall119> salgado: your merge proposal was approved, and landed in trunk
[13:17] <mhall119> well, landed in light-django-theme anyway
[13:17] <nigelb> morning mhall119
[13:17] <mhall119> you'll need to have IS do a pull from within the ubuntu_website directory
[13:18] <mhall119> but I think we need some extra work in summit code to make the new theme work right
[13:18] <mhall119> cjohnston might be able to answer that though
[13:18] <salgado> mhall119, superb, thanks!  I already have changes to the summit code to give it a linaro look
[13:19] <salgado> mhall119, are you thinking of anything specific that we're missing?  I was able to get it to use the new theme just by using separate media (css/images) files
[13:20] <salgado> under the new apache vhost I pointed the existing /media and /ubuntu-website/media aliases to the newly created directories with our own media
[13:30] <akgraner> jcastro, I have a silly question...What do I put on the UDS Registration under "Who is your attendance requested by?"  would that be Canonical since I'm sponsored? or other?
[13:31] <Pendulum> jcastro: I've noticed questions similar to akgraner's all over the place (even more confusing for people who are self-sponsoring). Maybe it should be reworded, removed, or made non-required in the future?
[13:32] <mhall119> salgado: the latest theme adds the white "mothership" bar at the top, and things like login should be moved up there
[13:32] <mhall119> we did it for loco-directory, but I don't think we've done it for summit yet
[13:33] <akgraner> I haven't finished filling out the reason for attending yet...let's see if I have enough room in this box..
[13:34] <salgado> mhall119, I think it's already done; at least I see a white stripe at the top, with login links at the left and other links at the right
[13:34] <salgado> oh, no, login is not there yet
[13:34] <salgado> just the username, favorites and logout
[13:40] <jussi> Pendulum: akgraner: Hrm, I didnt notice it - where is this? did I forget to register somewhere?
[13:41] <akgraner> jussi - https://forms.canonical.com/udsreg/
[13:43] <jussi> ooh, I hadnt noticed that - I just did the LP form. thanks
[13:43] <akgraner> and I hate the dd/mm/yy layout...it confuses the heck out of me
[13:43] <akgraner> I am so used to mm/dd/yy format...:-/
[13:44] <akgraner> no wonder my calendars get screwed up :-)
[13:45] <jussi> akgraner: mm/dd/yyyy seems so illogical to me? surely it should go from smallest to biggest?
[13:46] <akgraner> hehe - only when I was in the military did I use day month year but always written as 20 APR 11 for example
[13:47] <akgraner> every other place was until now has been Month, Day, Year...:-)  but I adapt and overcome...
[13:48] <Pendulum> akgraner: most of the world outside the US does dd/mm/yy (or day month year)
[13:49] <akgraner> Pendulum, yeah I know..:-)
[13:49] <akgraner> I'm just venting about how it confuses me...;-p
[13:49] <jussi> hrm, Im staying for a extra day... does that qualify for another event? why are they even asking me this?
[13:51] <akgraner> ok so in the t-shirt information box it asks for male or female...I'd love to put female but they are so not true to size...and you it's a required field...
[13:51] <akgraner> sigh
[13:52] <akgraner> and wouldn't you know it's a required field (I meant)
[13:52] <mhall119> salgado: yeah, so we need to fix that in summit's code before we roll out the new theme
[13:52] <jussi> akgraner: put something in the comments?
[13:53] <mhall119> jussi: no, it should go from largest to smallest
[13:53] <mhall119> so you can sort it like a string and it still sorts correctly
[13:53] <jussi> mhall119: either or, but all mixed up doesnt seem correct...
[13:54] <mhall119> jussi: yup, but that's still how they teach all of us over here
[13:54] <mhall119> just like how we still haven't converted to metric
[13:54] <jussi> yeah...
[13:55] <akgraner> jussi I only see comments available under accommodations and if I put something there about t-shirts I am sure someone will say "why did she comment about t-shirts under the accommodation area"
[13:56] <mhall119> akgraner: you can comment about why you commented about t-shifts under the accommodations area
[13:56] <akgraner> :-)
[13:57] <jussi> hehe
[13:57] <akgraner> also why does it say "Please note that you should make your own arrangements for accommodation."
[13:57] <mhall119> akgraner: this form, is it on summit.ubuntu.com, or somewhere else?
[13:57] <jussi> https://forms.canonical.com/udsreg/
[13:57] <akgraner> https://forms.canonical.com/udsreg/
[13:57] <mhall119> thought so
[13:57] <jussi> should be linked from summit, methinks
[13:58] <akgraner> ok so if you put Canonical as who requested you the you don't get that make you own arrangements statement
[13:58] <akgraner> if you put other the add sponsored you will get that statement
[13:59] <mhall119> I guess because Canonical can't guarantee that they'll be able to accommodate people who come for other companys
[14:01] <Pendulum> mhall119: I think the real problem is what do people who aren't coming from a company and aren't sponsored put?
[14:02] <mhall119> Pendulum: IIRC, you can put "Other" and write-in
[14:02] <Pendulum> yeah, they're just not sure what to write in
[14:02] <Pendulum> (so far I've heard of people putting their LoCo and 'community')
[14:04] <mhall119> Pendulum: heck, put your own name if you're self-sponsored
[14:06] <jcastro> yeah
[14:06] <jcastro> I don't know why the form says that
[14:06] <Technoviking> dholbach, popey, pleia2: ping
[14:07] <popey> Technoviking: pong
[14:08] <Technoviking> I'm going ahead and putting the Sounder on moderation
[14:08] <popey> its done already
[14:08] <popey> dholbach: did it this morning after sending his mail
[14:08] <jcastro> hey I saw some guy's blog yesterday about sounder
[14:08] <popey> oh?
[14:09] <jcastro> and why it was anti community to shut it down
[14:09] <jcastro> yeah I was on my phone though
[14:09] <jcastro> let me check
[14:10] <Technoviking> I was on the fence about shutting down sounder, but after last night
[14:10] <jcastro> http://cajuntechie.com/2011/04/canonical-takes-another-step-against.html
[14:10] <jcastro> what happened last night?
[14:11] <mhall119> jcastro: everything Canonical does is anti-community, didn't you know?  That's why Ubuntu has the smallest community of any distro
[14:12] <jcastro> heh
[14:12] <popey> jcastro: the community council were douchebags for shutting down sounder
[14:12] <akgraner> mhall119, if you put other - the a read statement shows up and says you have to make your own accommodations
[14:12] <akgraner> red even
[14:12] <popey> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/sounder/2011-April/016541.html
[14:12] <jcastro> popey: is this anywhere or just private mails?
[14:12] <popey> all on the list
[14:12] <akgraner> which can be confusing if you are sponsored...:-)
[14:12] <popey> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/sounder/2011-April/016511.html
[14:13] <mhall119> akgraner: agreed, I think sponsored people are supposed to list canonical, since that's who's sponsoring them
[14:13] <jcastro> oh man
[14:13] <jcastro> this is "awesome"
[14:13] <jcastro> I would suggest a "Vote of No Confidence" in the current Ubuntu
[14:13] <jcastro> Community leadership.  The current CC needs to be removed and a new
[14:13] <jcastro> one voted in.  They're proven they cannot be trusted with the burden
[14:13] <jcastro> of leadership.
[14:13] <akgraner> I know but the wording is confusing..
[14:13] <Pici> o.O
[14:14] <akgraner> since most sponsored people requested the sponsorship not the other way around
[14:14] <mhall119> akgraner: I see them as two different thing
[14:15] <mhall119> you request "sponsorship" from Canonical
[14:15] <akgraner> nods
[14:15] <Pendulum> a better wording would probably be 'Who is sponsoring you?' with an opition for 'self'
[14:15] <jcastro> the form is like to get your name and stuff
[14:15] <mhall119> but, by sponoring you, Canonical is requesting that you attend the "summit"
[14:15] <akgraner> But the forms asks "who requested you to attend"
[14:15] <jcastro> I don't think it matters what you put in there
[14:16] <akgraner> jcastro, yep it does.. b/c if you put other when you get to the hotel info it will tell you that you have to make your own arrangements for accommodations
[14:16] <mhall119> akgraner: put another way, you don't ask canonical if you can go to UDS
[14:16] <akgraner> mhall119, I'm not arguing I'm just saying it was confusing
[14:16] <akgraner> that's ll
[14:16] <akgraner> all
[14:17] <mhall119> well that we agree on
[14:17] <akgraner> and if it confused me I am sure it confused others
[14:17] <mhall119> people are destined to be confused beings
[14:17] <mhall119> or something like that
[14:17] <akgraner> (not that I am not the measuring stick for confusion)
[14:17] <mhall119> doctormo: where's the akgraner quote link?
[14:18] <Pendulum> akgraner: I know it has because you're at least the 4th person I've seen ask that question (and in fact the 2nd today)
[14:18] <akgraner> I just thought I would bring it up...
[14:19] <mhall119> wow popey, did you drown this guy's puppy or something?
[14:19] <mhall119> it's like reading sounder emails was the only joy he had left in life
[14:19] <Pici> Heres another one: http://putt1ck.blogspot.com/2011/04/open-letter-to-ubuntu-community-council.html
[14:19] <akgraner> Technoviking, we've pulled all reference to the sounder mailing list from the Official Book...
[14:20] <popey> o_O
[14:22] <vish> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/sounder/2011-April/016559.html "I would suggest a "Vote of No Confidence" in the current Ubuntu Community leadership . The current CC needs to be removed and a new one voted in." haha! who is gonna vote, i dont think that most of the people commenting there have a vote ! ;p
[14:24] <vish> i guess, the truth is also out: CC is Canonical Council ;)
[14:26] <jcastro> hey you can't blame canonical for this, blame popey!
[14:26] <mhall119> yeah, the community should elect a handful of representatives to represent us, instead of allowing some "community council" to do whatever the please
[14:26] <vish>  https://bugs.launchpad.net/popey/+filebug
[14:26] <akgraner> Let's make today - International Blame Popey Day
[14:28] <mhall119> popey: this is kind of like how, in the USA, people like to talk about the politicians that "the people" keep electing are not properly representing "the people"
[14:29] <dpm> free software ftw! After not being able to run unity in my laptop since the latest xorg upgrade, I've just noticed the 3D support in nouveau works like a charm
[14:29] <mhall119> every year we have a "replace them all with new people" campaign that ends up with 80% or more of the same people being re-elected
[14:29]  * dpm trows nvidia to the bin and starts enjoying a projector-friendly laptop
[14:30] <vish> dpm: now, how do we blame that on popey ?!
[14:30] <vish> *something* is wrong there.. ;)
[14:31] <dpm> :)
[14:33] <Technoviking> the FC just got this email: Thank you very much for getting us our independence from the clutches of Microsoft.
[14:33] <Technoviking> :)
[14:33] <Technoviking> akgraner: thanks
[14:35] <akgraner> my response to all requests today I've decided will be, "No, I don't have your pancake mix! See popey if you need further assistance!" ;-)
[14:35] <Pici> I feel like starting all the emails I write today, regardless the recipient, with "An open letter to Alan Pope"
[14:36] <akgraner> haha - see popey everyone here <3's you!
[14:36] <jcastro> I just think it's awesome that "blame popey" has so much mindshare that people actually are blaming popey
[14:36] <jcastro> "I'm getting fat, ugh, I hate you popey."
[14:37] <akgraner> don't worry jcastro - we'll have a blame you day soon :-)
[14:37] <jcastro> "Bills due, sigh, stupid popey...."
[14:37] <jcastro> I have a confession to make, popey was the shooter on the grassy knoll
[14:37] <vish> lmao!!
[14:37] <akgraner> hahaha
[14:37] <popey> I like the word "knoll"
[14:37] <popey> I dont know why though.
[14:37] <popey> Elvis killed JFK!
[14:37] <Technoviking> jcastro: I'm pretty sure I can find poster from the 1960's that clearly state Blame Castro:)
[14:38] <mhall119> popey is D.B.Cooper
[14:38] <popey> bet there's already a conspiracy about that
[14:39]  * dpm hugs popey
[14:39] <popey> :)
[14:39] <jcastro> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/sounder/2011-April/016512.html
[14:39] <jcastro> this one is the best so far
[14:39]  * mhall119 blames popey for hugs and other forms of affection
[14:39] <jcastro> I mean, planet of the apes reference and everything
[14:39] <mhall119> and rainbows, rainbows are all popey's fault
[14:40] <popey> I HATE YOU ALL
[14:40] <popey> :D
[14:40] <Technoviking> heh
[14:40]  * nigelb hugs popey 
[14:40]  * Pendulum hugs popey 
[14:40] <nigelb> quick
[14:40] <nigelb> EVERYONE HUG popey
[14:40] <JFo> what an interesting finding.... Reggaeton music makes haters sound less interesting.
[14:40] <JFo> :)
[14:41]  * JFo hugs popey
[14:41] <mhall119> lol
[14:41] <JFo> and squeeze him and call him George
[14:41] <JFo> and stroke his bill
[14:41] <mhall119> JFo: quick, sing the sounder emails in Reggaeton
[14:41] <JFo> that is what I have been reading mhall119 :-D
[14:42] <JFo> it just happened to fit with popey's statement :-)
[14:42] <jcastro> I will miss sounder
[14:42] <jcastro> it was my first ever post to an ubuntu list
[14:42] <mhall119> I think I've heard about sounder maybe once before
[14:42] <JFo> I never read it... until today
[14:42] <jcastro> sounder the idea, not sounder as it is today
[14:42] <JFo> jcastro, agreed on that
[14:43] <nigelb> All I've heard of sounder is popey ranting about how it should be shut down :p
[14:44] <akgraner> dapper drake, Ubuntu 6.06 was the first LTS server release right?
[14:45] <mhall119> um, was there a server version of 6.06?
[14:45] <mhall119> I know it was the first LTS
[14:45] <jcastro> I think it was all one thing back then
[14:45] <JFo> yeah, I don't see a Dapper server kernel
[14:45] <nigelb> mhall119: we just EOD'd on the server edition
[14:45] <akgraner> ok just making sure - it's before my time ;-p
[14:45] <nigelb> mhall119: well, we will. In 10 days.
[14:46] <popey> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases
[14:46] <mhall119> EOD?
[14:46] <JFo> nigelb, Explosive Ordinance Disposal?
[14:46] <JFo> oh, EOL
[14:46] <nigelb> s/EOD/EOL
[14:46] <JFo> :-P
[14:46] <akgraner> JFO it's ETS'ing
[14:46] <mhall119> JFo: yours sounds like more fun
[14:46] <JFo> akgraner, LOL
[14:46] <JFo> mhall119, without doubt
[14:46] <jcastro> dholbach: man dude, old times! https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/sounder/2006-January/003623.html
[14:47] <nigelb> JFos ideas are generally fun :p
[14:47] <JFo> I always enjoyed EOD duty
[14:47] <akgraner> initial success or total failure  - EOD motto
[14:47] <nigelb> whiprush.org -> nice domain jcastro
[14:47] <JFo> akgraner, (=
[14:47] <jcastro> hah yeah, old
[14:48] <JFo> akgraner, I had a shirt that said "Keep up with me if you want to live."
[14:48] <dholbach> jcastro, WOW
[14:48] <nigelb> jcastro: I <3 item g
[14:48] <JFo> with Ahnuld on it
[14:49] <jcastro> dholbach: I was just looking at old archives. jerome gontancgo!
[14:49] <jcastro> dholbach: daniel robitaille
[14:49] <jcastro> dholbach: I love you bro.
[14:49] <jcastro> *hugs*
[14:49]  * dholbach hugs jcastro back :)
[14:50] <popey> yeah, i went back looking at some posts from 2004 recently
[14:50] <popey> jcastro had the first post iirc
[14:50] <jcastro> I did
[14:51] <dholbach> what the people in this discussion really want to say is: we're old
[14:51] <jcastro> if someone ever says I don't care about the list then I have total trump ability.
[14:51] <jcastro> I also have a forum account older than most people
[14:52] <jcastro> day it launched iirc
[14:52] <nigelb> dholbach: hahaha, nice perception :p
[14:54] <dholbach> pad.lv is just awesome
[14:54] <Technoviking> yeah, that is a given. My son now listen to music I don't understand:)
[14:54] <salgado> Daviey, mhall119, so, we'll need a copy of the 'media' and 'ubuntu_website/media' dirs for the linaro website; would you prefer it as part of the summit code base (simplifies deployment) or in a separate similar to how the light-django-theme is used?  the size of both dirs is around 400kiB
[14:55] <mhall119> salgado: it should be separate, IMO, since it'll mostly be copied from light-django-theme anyway, not summit
[14:56] <vish> hmm, actually reading the meeting logs, popey wanted to discuss this sounder again at a convenient time too, and dholbach's announcement blog has positive comment too..  but i guess everyone just likes blaming popey  :D
[14:56] <salgado> mhall119, well, the 'media' dir is copied from summit.  maybe what's copied from summit should live in the summit codebase and what's not goes in a separate branch?
[14:57] <mhall119> salgado: oh? I thought most of it was in ubuntu_website/
[14:57] <mhall119> the parts that you'd be changing anyway
[14:57] <salgado> I see a lot of stuff under summit/media/, but maybe it's no longer used?
[14:58] <mhall119> salgado: or it's used for things like the schedule table
[14:58] <salgado> oh, yeah, up to now I've only changed stuff that comes from ubuntu_website
[14:58] <mhall119> everything for the theme should be in ubuntu_website/media
[14:59] <salgado> ok, cool, then I probably don't need a copy of media/
[15:14] <dholbach> kim0, jcastro, dpm: I assume there's no team call today?
[15:14] <jcastro> I don't know if he was leaving today or not
[15:14] <dpm> dholbach, I thought there were. Is jono not leaving tomorrow?
[15:14] <dholbach> ohok
[15:15] <dpm> yeah, he's off tomorrow, but not today
[15:15] <dholbach> ok ok
[15:15] <dpm> dholbach, so no party yet ;-)
[15:27] <salgado> mhall119, do you know what revision of light-django-theme we're using on summit.u.c?
[15:27] <mhall119> salgado: not specifically, but it's several versions old at least
[15:27] <mhall119> Daviey: can you check on that?
[15:29] <cjohnston> mhall119: im working on fixing it right now so that the theme can be upgraded
[15:34] <mhall119> \o/
[15:43] <salgado> Daviey, mhall119, does https://code.launchpad.net/~salgado/summit/linaro/+merge/58503 seem reasonable to you?
[15:44] <mhall119> salgado: why not just define a separate summit for linaro?/
[15:45] <salgado> mhall119, separate summit?
[15:46] <mhall119> yeah, have UDS-O and then Linaro-something
[15:47] <mhall119> that way you can define your own rooms, schedule, meetings, attendees, etc
[15:47] <mhall119> tracks
[15:47] <mhall119> there's no technical reason I know of for trying to do it in the uds-o summit record
[15:48] <salgado> mhall119, if we do that we'd lose the ability of avoiding clashes for required participants when scheduling meetings, wouldn't we?
[15:48] <salgado> there may be other reasons, though; let me check
[15:48] <salgado> some people are required participants in both linaro and ubuntu sessions
[15:49] <mhall119> salgado: I'm not sure, but we could make the schedule conflicts check based only on date, not summit
[15:51] <salgado> mhall119, we also don't have our own rooms
[15:51] <mhall119> salgado: hmmmm.....
[15:52] <mhall119> we can probably change it to allow a room to be defined for more than one summit...but that might take extra work
[15:52] <salgado> and people would have to register as attending both events
[15:52] <salgado> and there may be other issues
[15:54] <jcastro> no no no!
[15:54] <jcastro> no seperate summits!
[15:54] <mhall119> I don't see dual attendence as bad
[15:54] <mhall119> jcastro: why not?
[15:54] <jcastro> we'd add a bunch of complication with people's sessions
[15:54] <jcastro> because people need to be able to do both
[15:54] <mhall119> they would be able to do both
[15:54] <mhall119> and we can update schedule conflict checks to account for it
[15:54] <jcastro> conflict resolution for both systems?
[15:55] <mhall119> both summits, same system
[15:55] <mhall119> by 'separate summit' I mean create a new 'linaro-o' summit entry in summit.ubuntu.com
[15:57] <jcastro> right
[15:57] <jcastro> ugh, no way, we'd have to copy the plenaries over every time there's a change?
[15:57] <jcastro> and what about blueprints?
[15:58] <jcastro> and then we'd have to teach them how to admin summit and make the slots, etc.
[15:58] <jcastro> we only have like 3 weeks left
[15:58] <mhall119> I'd just rather make summit properly handle multiple simultaneous events, rather than continuing to add hacks everywhere to just support one additional event
[15:58] <jcastro> true, but we don't have time for that
[15:58] <jcastro> linaro only started planning like this week
[15:58] <mhall119> true, but can we hold off on these new hacks until we have time to do it right?
[15:58] <jcastro> so we're trying to make it all fit
[15:59] <jcastro> salgado: james_w: do you guys have work time allocated post O for summit improvements for UDS?
[15:59] <salgado> mhall119, we're making sure upper management talks to us earlier next time, so that we can do things properly
[15:59] <james_w> jcastro, not yet, but we will
[15:59] <jcastro> mhall119: dunno, they have hard requirements, I say we put it in, and then at UDS you guys chat and figure out what we need to do for P
[16:00] <jcastro> mhall119: at first I was like "oh we'll just make another summit in the system"
[16:00] <jcastro> then I sat in this one call and joey and I figured out that that wouldn't work
[16:00] <mhall119> it would work, it just wouldn't be convenient
[16:00] <mhall119> cause you'd have to duplicate rooms and schedules and you wouldn't get conflict checks
[16:01] <jcastro> right
[16:01] <mhall119> but all of those things we can (and, IMO, should) add
[16:01] <jcastro> I agree
[16:01] <jcastro> just not 3 weeks before
[16:01] <mhall119> in case next time we have UDS + Linary + KDE at the same time and place
[16:01] <mhall119> Linaro, gah, I don't know why I keep mistyping that
[16:01] <jcastro> tbh I still don't like that we're touching summit too much, bu Daviey reassures me his code is gold.
[16:03] <dholbach> jcastro, dpm, kim0: hum............
[16:04] <dholbach> where's Bacon?
[16:04] <jcastro> dholbach: does that mean we can go drink beer?
[16:05] <dholbach> jcastro, I guess ;-)
[16:05] <mhall119> yay!
[16:05] <dpm> party!
[16:05] <jcastro> dholbach: I think we should take this time to reflect on what we can improve within ourselves
[16:06] <dholbach> jcastro, good idea
[16:08] <cjohnston> I can't wait to have some beer!
[16:12] <maco> Sarah Jane has joined the Brigadier
[16:12] <popey> That's it! I'm shutting down this IRC channel!
[16:12] <dholbach> popey, thanks
[16:12] <popey> :)
[16:13] <dpm> now mr. popey, I'd like to send you a letter before you do that!
[16:13] <popey> Oh goody.
[16:13] <popey> Is it pink?
[16:13] <popey> Please say it's pink!
[16:13] <dpm> it comes in a multicoloured envelope
[16:14] <popey> Double rainbow!?
[16:14] <dpm> of course, plus unicorns
[16:14]  * dpm stops
[16:14] <dpm> :)
[16:15] <dholbach> dpm, I'm sure you're on popey's blacklist now
[16:15] <czajkowski> for jono http://www.broadsheet.ie/2011/04/17/for-that-special-someone/
[16:16] <popey> ooooooo
[16:17] <nigelb> popey is back on facebook?
[16:17] <popey> He is.
[16:17] <nigelb> dpm: with ponies :p
[16:17] <czajkowski> can we rewind back to april 1st and restart the month please
[16:23] <nigelb> bwahahaha https://twitter.com/#!/lauracowen/status/60724783779807232
[16:25] <popey> :)
[16:32] <Technoviking> popey: where are the forums?
[16:32] <Technoviking> :)
[16:38] <dpm> dholbach, jcastro, kim0, as it seems we're not going to have the team call, I'll leave a bit earlier today, as I need to catch a train. Have a nice Easter break!. (I'll still be idling here for a bit, though)
[16:38] <kim0> enjoy
[16:38] <dholbach> dpm, you took tomorrow off?
[16:39] <dpm> dholbach, yeah, it's bank holiday here
[16:39] <dholbach> ahh
[16:39] <dholbach> nice
[16:39] <dholbach> enjoy!
[16:39] <dholbach> I'll still be here tomorrow, but I call it a day in a bit too
[16:39] <dpm> thanks, and the same for everyone else having a break, have a nice one!
[16:40] <jcastro> I'll be on travel!
[16:40] <jcastro> so I will see you next week!
[16:40] <dpm> cool, see ya!
[16:40]  * dpm starts packing
[16:47] <dholbach> alright, I'm out of here too
[16:47] <dholbach> have a great rest of your day - see you tomorrow - HUGS
[16:48] <cjohnston> o/
[16:49] <cjohnston> jcastro: what does the "register interest" in tracks do/what is it for
[16:49] <cjohnston> I know what it means, I guess how is it used by you guys
[16:54] <jcastro> I don't remember what that's for
[17:34] <paultag> hey jcastro, you have a sense of humor, aye?
[17:35] <paultag> doctormo: you too
[17:36]  * pleia2 sends hugs around
[17:36]  * paultag hugs pleia2 
[17:36] <pleia2> thanks to everyone who handled sounder, it feels very good to have it gone
[17:40] <pleia2> dpm: nhandler said you were having trouble logging into the classroom blog? I'm around if you want to work on getting it sorted
[17:41] <dpm> pleia2, I could log in fine. I just wanted to edit an article and I didn't have write permissions (only view)
[17:42] <pleia2> dpm: ah ok, that's because you're an author rather than administrator, so you can add new posts but you can't edit other peoples
[17:43] <dpm> pleia2, that's fine, I don't need to be an admin
[17:43] <pleia2> ok :)
[17:43] <pleia2> I updated the last post to link to your day 5 summary
[17:43] <dpm> pleia2, great, thanks!
[17:56] <akgraner> paultag you around?  Ohio Linux Fest is interested in an UbuCon this year...
[17:57] <jcastro> paultag: I have a sense of humor about everything
[17:57] <jcastro> except ohio
[18:01] <paultag> akgraner: heyya amber :)
[18:01] <paultag> akgraner: awesome!!!!!
[18:02] <paultag> jcastro: I was thinking of doing a new tumblr blog (they let you have more then one)
[18:02] <akgraner> paultag, who is the POC I can send them too?
[18:02] <paultag> jcastro: I'm thinking of making fun of Ubuntu once a week in an onion style mini-article or image or something -- I call it "The Eggplant"
[18:02] <paultag> akgraner: jacob is one of them, he's the only POC who's in the wider community
[18:03] <paultag> akgraner: there are two others, want me to email you them (with them CC'd) ?
[18:03] <akgraner> How about I email you..and you can email them?
[18:03] <paultag> akgraner: sure :)
[18:03] <paultag> jcastro: want to help? I want to get a few @ubuntu'ers who can help make fun of Ubuntu
[18:04] <akgraner> ok once you get the email...I've punted it to you all to do with as you see fit :-)
[18:04] <paultag> akgraner: righto! Cheers!
[18:04] <akgraner> paultag,  thanks!
[18:05] <paultag> akgraner: thank you!
[18:05] <akgraner> jcastro, you'll see 4 or 5 emails hit your inbox shortly...not spamming you just finalizing emails to folks about open week and keeping you in the loop
[18:06] <jcastro> \o/
[18:06] <jcastro> don't worry I have an akgraner label in gmail
[18:06] <jcastro> (haha just kidding, I don't)
[18:06] <mhall119> paultag: I'd offer to join you, but it's probably frowned upon
[18:06] <paultag> mhall119: nah, just do it as your ubuntu side :)
[18:06] <akgraner> hehe pete says he sets my emails to him to /dev/null :-/
[18:06] <paultag> mhall119: it'll be in good taste
[18:08] <paultag> as far as satire can handle good taste, I guesss
[18:11] <mhall119> satire always tastes good to me
[18:14] <paultag> right?
[20:12] <salgado> Daviey, another thing we were asked to do for summit.l.o is to omit the non-linaro tracks from the main summit page.  I'd like to find a way to do that in the least intrusive way possible but I can't think of anything that's significantly better than http://paste.ubuntu.com/596653/.  do you have any ideas on how to do that?
[20:36] <Daviey> salgado, i guess +        tracks = tracks.filter(slug__contains='track1')   s/track1/liaro ?
[20:36] <Daviey> linaro*
[20:37] <salgado> yeah, definitely; I changed to track1 just to test against the sample db
[20:38] <Daviey> salgado, i'm not a fan of $co-located-event stuff being part of the core code.. i'd rather it was a setting.. but TBH, it is the simplest approach
[20:38] <Daviey> salgado, that won't collapse rooms with no linaro sessions in tho?
[20:39] <Daviey> salgado, considering we now have 17 rooms IIRC, should the ubuntu display hide linaro sessions?
[20:39] <james_w> Daviey, a setting how?
[20:39] <Daviey> jcastro, you might have thoughts.
[20:39] <james_w> "only_show_tracks_containing = linaro"?
[20:39] <Daviey> james_w, a python list of settings.COLOCATEDEVENTS.
[20:39] <jcastro> what are we trying to do?
[20:40] <Daviey> jcastro, should the ubuntu display hide linaro sessions? (hiding rooms with only linaro sessions)....
[20:40] <salgado> Daviey, I'd rather have this properly designed to avoid special casing linaro in multiple places, but yeah, at this point this is probably the least bad options
[20:40] <jcastro> no
[20:40] <jcastro> it's just one schedule for everybody
[20:40] <Daviey> jcastro,  concerned we have 17 rooms AIUI, and the display is going to be difficult
[20:40] <jcastro> though iirc linaro sessions had a little logo or something
[20:41] <salgado> yes, they still have a different logo and border
[20:41] <james_w> I'm not sure the rooms would reduce any if we did that given that we aren't keeping Linaro to specific rooms
[20:41] <jcastro> Daviey: it's only 2 more than last time
[20:41] <salgado> good point; it worked for Linaro last time because the majority of the sessions were non-linaro
[20:41] <jcastro> (and plenary room isn't on the schedule)
[20:42] <jcastro> the dedicated linaro rooms aren't on the schedule
[20:42] <Daviey> ah, good point.
[20:43] <Daviey> jcastro, Are you sure on that last point?
[20:43] <jcastro> yes
[20:43] <jcastro> they're not scheduled
[20:43] <jcastro> they just say "linaro so and so will be in this room all day"
[20:43] <jcastro> linaro tracks have access to these 16 rooms
[20:43] <jcastro> + they have like 4 dedicated rooms for hackfests
[20:44] <jcastro> and some amount of like suites for meetings and stuff
[20:44] <Daviey> salgado, If that diff is functional, i would say go for it.  There is no point burning too much of your time in perfection, and I don't think we have time to be too picky.  Doesn't look inefficient code..
[20:48] <salgado> Daviey, agreed, but I can at least mark these places with XXXs and file a bug so that hopefully we don't forget them after UDS, like we did last time
[20:52] <Daviey> salgado, XXX = grep -inr linaro summit/ :)
[20:54] <Daviey> One reason i'm not keep on specific string mentions is that one other group uses summit for their event...  it would be unfair for us to refuse their patches in trunk which relate to a specific string we use.
[20:54] <Daviey> s/keep/keen
[20:55] <Daviey> salgado, The idea i have is overcomplexing the issue, and no real gain... so just merge it :)
[20:57] <salgado> Daviey, I'm not keen on this approach either, and I really hope to clean this up and come up with a proper solution which allows multiple summits to share rooms and stuff, before the next UDS
[20:59] <Daviey> salgado, Sounds good to me!
[22:27] <cjohnston> Daviey: you still around?
[22:44] <Daviey> cjohnston, no
[22:45] <akgraner> paultag, you have an email...moose is cc'd as she will be the POC on the OLF side of things...
[22:47] <paultag> akgraner: sent mail back as you poked me :)
[22:47] <paultag> akgraner: rock on, thanks so much
[22:47] <akgraner> paultag, you're welcome....
[22:48] <paultag> akgraner: we're both now off the hook :)
[22:48] <paultag> ^5 for delegating :)
[22:48] <akgraner> paultag, woot woot - I learned that from jcastro....
[22:48] <paultag> :)
[22:49] <paultag> so my license expired four days ago
[22:49] <paultag> so I dressed way up to hide the fact I'm actually this super huge terrorist
[22:49] <paultag> and now I'm stuck in the airport wearing a tie
[22:49] <paultag> I hate this so much, I need to change
[22:50] <paultag> I feel like such a choch
[22:50] <akgraner> hahaha...dude if you put on a suit and tie to fly  you deserve to be uncomfortable
[22:51] <paultag> akgraner: my license is expired!!!!!!
[22:51] <akgraner> ok...you still deserve it ;-P
[22:52] <paultag> akgraner: I had zero valid forms of ODID
[22:52] <paultag> so I just need to snaz my way through
[22:52] <paultag> hehehe
[22:52] <paultag> goddamn lag in the airport is rough
[22:52] <akgraner> ahhh
[22:52] <paultag> yeah, I think I'll change in the airport bathroom
[22:52] <akgraner> I lost my ID once...they let me fly but it was an ordeal...
[22:52] <paultag> I wonder if that's considered weird
[22:52] <paultag> akgraner: yeah, they checked my prostate
[22:55] <akgraner> paultag, haha (trying my best not so say anything inappropriate to that last remark - it's a difficult test of my willpower)
[22:55] <paultag> yeah. I'm doing this thang. down with the shirt!
[22:55] <paultag> akgraner: :P
[22:57] <paultag> oh wow, so much better
[22:58] <paultag> feeling good now
[23:03] <paultag> OK, off to my flight. One love
[23:30] <JanC> paultag: my dad once had that happen *because* he had a valid passport...
[23:31] <JanC> (it so happened that he had a visum for Columbia in it...)
[23:31] <JanC> after that he "lost" his passport and applied for a new one  :P
[23:32] <JanC> Colombia