[04:05] <Logan_> rww: How do you escape slashes?
[04:08] <Jordan_U> Logan_: My guess would be that using another character, like '#', in place of '/' would work. Looking at that factoid though it might be better to change it to something like "debfoster is depricated..."
[04:09] <Logan_> or just !forget it altogether... :P
[04:09] <rww> Logan_: use s#foo/#bar# instead, or s/foo\//bar/
[04:09] <rww> (both of those would replace foo/ with bar)
[04:09] <Logan_> ok
[04:09] <Logan_> rww: what do you think about that factoid?
[04:10] <rww> I'm at work; will look at it when I get home if nobody else does first.
[04:10] <Logan_> alright, cool
[06:58] <rww> oh hey I was going to look at that thing
[06:58] <rww> !debfoster
[06:58] <rww> !-debfoster
[06:58] <rww> !forget debfoster
[07:00] <rww> !repeat > kesor
[07:07] <bazhang> ginbuntu, hi
[07:08] <bazhang> ginbun2, hi
[07:09]  * rww facepalms
[07:13] <bazhang> ginbun2, if you wish to discuss your ban in #ubuntu-offtopic , this is the correct channel
[07:27] <ginbun2> bazhang, I don't have tie atm. next time
[07:27] <ginbun2> time*
[07:28] <Tm_T> then please don't join this channel
[07:28] <Tm_T> until you have time, that is
[07:30] <rww> or #ubuntu-offtopic, since that would be a violation of freenode policy.
[07:30] <rww> just in case you didn't get my message the first time you did that.
[07:41] <elky> or you'll find rww's stalker list for you redirected to ##unavailable.
[07:42] <rww> i turned off stalker.pl, it was making irssi have fits every time I joined a channel :(
[07:42] <elky> you ought to still have a list for him somewher
[07:42] <rww> [06:42:36] robert@fnord - ~ $ grep ginbun pisg-config/users.cfg
[07:42] <rww> <user nick="Ginbuntu" alias="Ginbuntuu Gibun Ginbuntu2 ginnnn ginnn ginn ginnnnn ginnn_ ijiojoijiojijioj jinxi referfe ginnn__ ginbun2">
[07:43] <elky> wfm
[07:44] <elky> for serious?
[07:50] <rww> heck of a connection
[07:50] <rww> ginbun2: I'm turning your banforwards into straight bans. Please rejoin #ubuntu-ops when Pici is around and you feel like progressing your bans.
[08:16] <ikonia> ginbuntu: what's going on ?
[08:16] <ikonia> rww: did you change the ban from a forward (I don't see it)
[08:16] <rww> bad connection and autorejoin
[08:16] <rww> ikonia: yes
[08:17] <ikonia> so then why is it autojoining this channel
[08:17] <rww> because their client's rejoining the channels they were in when they got disconnected
[08:17] <ikonia> ah, I thought it would be ok with it rejoining #ubuntu-offtopic and the forward not being there
[08:18] <elky> remind me to take that off in a few
[08:19] <ikonia> ok
[08:29] <elky> amazing how the connection is ok now
[08:33] <ikonia> remove him from the channel
[08:33] <ikonia> he's not active
[09:30] <fisch246> the hell
[09:31] <fisch246> was that a miss kick or something?
[09:31] <topyli> indeed. you've been around enough to not refer to women as snuggle bodies, especially when we're trying to stop a sexist trend in the conversation
[09:32] <fisch246> what's wrong with that exactly?
[09:32] <topyli> encourages the trend to continue?
[09:32] <fisch246> how?
[09:32] <fisch246> a "snuggle buddy" is perfectly acceptable >.<
[09:33] <fisch246> not to mention, perfectly acceptable to refer to someone as such...
[09:33] <topyli> as you noticed, i don't agree
[09:33] <topyli> in the context
[09:34] <fisch246> don't you snuggle with women for fun?
[09:34] <topyli> only ones that i'm already familiar with
[09:34] <fisch246> mmk?
[09:35] <fisch246> so what's wrong with saying a gal would make a great snuggle buddy?
[09:35] <topyli> that's offtopic for this channel though
[09:35] <fisch246> i was referring to her cuddly personality...
[09:35] <fisch246> how nice she was...
[09:35] <topyli> you don't have the slightest idea about her personality
[09:35] <fisch246> did you misunderstand that?
[09:36] <fisch246> well of course i don't
[09:36] <fisch246> hence the term "think"
[09:36] <fisch246> "i THINK she might make a great snuggle buddy"
[09:36] <topyli> since you're not banned, we don't really have to go on
[09:37] <fisch246> well then don't kick me for reasons that don't go against the COC
[09:37] <fisch246> as you have twice now >.<
[09:39] <fisch246> i mean syrinx_ was using terms like "hot"
[09:39] <topyli> which is why i was kindly educating him
[09:39] <fisch246> look if something i say bothers you...
[09:39] <fisch246> confront me
[09:39] <fisch246> pm me if you have to
[09:39] <fisch246> you have my permission
[09:40] <fisch246> rant at me for all i care...
[09:40] <fisch246> but don't kick me, when i'm having a perfectly civil conversation with someone
[09:41] <topyli> no rants available here. i'll remove you from -ot when needed though. let's make it so i don't have to
[09:42] <fisch246> how is that your job?
[09:42] <fisch246> your job is to keep things civil...
[09:42] <fisch246> if someone is out of line, talk to them...
[09:42] <topyli> indeed
[09:42] <fisch246> then take measures such as a kick
[09:43] <fisch246> if they don't listen i mean
[09:43] <topyli> anything else? i'm pretty much done
[09:43] <fisch246> i'm just trying to make it clear that next time to just talk to me
[09:43] <fisch246> if i don't listen kick me
[09:44] <fisch246> fair enough?
[09:45] <topyli> absolutely
[09:46] <fisch246> like i said... if talking about it publicly will cause a disturbance in the channel... you can always just pm me
[09:46] <fisch246> i prefer a speech, especially if you explain how you feel
[09:47] <topyli> this is not about my feelings, it's about the channel
[09:47] <fisch246> well you "felt" that "snuggle buddy" was unacceptable
[09:47] <fisch246> because to you it's sexist
[09:47] <Tm_T> fisch246: he's not alone with that
[09:48] <topyli> anyway, you don't seem to be too keen to talk about your behavior except to stress how correct it is, you prefer to discuss the rules which is actually better done without breaking them
[09:48] <fisch246> Tm_T: then can you explain how it is?
[09:49] <elky> Would you discuss how good a snuggle buddy a guy you don't know would be?
[09:49] <fisch246> yes
[09:49]  * fisch246 is bi
[09:50] <fisch246> ok from my understanding...
[09:50] <elky> I'll believe that when I actually see it. In the meantime, talking to a channel of strangers about your infatuation with someone who isn't there is creepy.
[09:50] <fisch246> you're offended by the fact that i sound like i'm projecting lust...
[09:51] <elky> s/offended/contemptuous/
[09:51] <elky> s/by/of/
[09:51] <fisch246> well i'd understand if i said something to the line of... excuse the term... "fwb" or something like that...
[09:52] <fisch246> that's referring to her body, and lust...
[09:52] <elky> That channel is a really uncomfortable place to be (for me especially) when it comes to talking about the desires for particular women, rating the appearance/shaggability of women.
[09:52] <fisch246> ew...
[09:52] <elky> eww?
[09:53] <fisch246> i do not discuss "shaggability" with anyone...
[09:53] <elky> ... cuddle buddy is pretty much f-word buddy where I come from.
[09:53] <elky> s/cuddle/snuggle/ too.
[09:53] <fisch246> well i wasn't referring to sex...
[09:54] <fisch246> at all...
[09:54] <elky> Then what?
[09:54] <fisch246> simply "hand around the shoulder" behavior
[09:54] <fisch246> having them next to you
[09:54] <fisch246> o god... is that what you thought i meant? D:
[09:54] <elky> The context does not make your argument convincing.
[09:55] <elky> Regardless, yes. That is.
[09:55] <fisch246> wow i'm sorry
[09:55] <fisch246> i was referring to strictly snuggling... no sex...
[09:56] <fisch246> never heard of anyone taking it any different
[09:56] <elky> When talking about the appearance of a woman and then saying she'd be a good cuddle buddy... in what part of the world is this strictly a plutonic thing?
[09:56] <fisch246> mine?
[09:57] <fisch246> idk maybe i'm just not used to talking to people who don't know me
[09:58] <fisch246> well sorry for the misunderstanding
[09:58] <elky> Probably. Well now that you understand the perspective the other ops were coming from, I'm sure you can now finish up that discussion
[09:59] <elky> topyli, back to you
[09:59] <fisch246> seriously i promise i was NOT meaning sex
[10:00] <fisch246> that's why i was confused...
[10:00] <topyli> fisch246: anyway, you're not banned so no problem there. if we've cleared up what the channel is for and is not for, i have no further business
[10:01] <fisch246> well next time i'll reciprocate what i mean better :/
[10:01] <topyli> that'd be nice :)
[10:02] <topyli> after all, your words are all we have on irc, we have no other means to find out what you mean
[10:02] <fisch246> which is why i asked to talk to me first D:
[10:02] <fisch246> anyway ok i'm off, digging a hole now :/
[10:03] <elky> I did resist mentioning you scolding others like 10 lines before ;)
[10:19] <bazhang> any reason to let Gurke__ continue in his latest iteration? he's been at this for quite some time now
[10:22] <Tm_T> hmh, I scared him away again ):
[10:22] <ikonia> he pm'd me the other day from that ip
[10:22] <ikonia> different nick though
[10:22] <bazhang> he's back
[10:24] <bazhang> he's had multiple warnings in multiple channels, and I have spoken with him in PM as well
[10:25] <Tm_T> aye, I'm going on "one warning and out" level with him, soon it's just "out"
[10:27] <bazhang> fisch246, hi
[10:27] <fisch246> is it possible to ban ip's?
[10:27] <bazhang> yes
[10:27] <Tm_T> yes
[10:27] <fisch246> please...
[10:27] <bazhang> dsl.visi.com ?
[10:27] <fisch246> no D:
[10:28] <fisch246> Gurke's ip
[10:28] <bazhang> please let the operators handle this
[10:28] <fisch246> alright...
[10:28]  * fisch246 heads back over to -ot
[10:30] <elky> ...
[10:30] <Tm_T> I have to focus on something else, sorry
[10:37] <bazhang> ginbuntu still banned here?
[10:37] <ikonia> elky: ping
[10:37] <bazhang> oh just more theatrics
[10:37] <bazhang> he has time to join, but no time to resolve
[10:38] <ikonia> I do'nt see the ban for ginbuntu in here ?
[10:38] <ikonia> don't
 Araneidae, stop it. you POS
[10:38] <Tm_T> it's removed already
[10:38] <ikonia> I know - I've had enough now
[10:38] <bazhang> just now in #ubuntu
[10:38] <bazhang> okay thanks ikonia
[10:39] <ikonia> if you're genuinly trying to resolve a ban calling someone a POS in #ubuntu isn't going to help, so I can only assume this is intended
[10:39] <elky> yeah
[10:39] <bazhang> like his countdown the other day before he just bleeping google it comment
[10:46] <ikonia> paranioa
[10:46] <ikonia> there are such idiots in #ubuntu, there really is, nonsense about greed and paranios
[10:46] <bazhang> the world really, but misinformed is what I'd call them
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[11:02] <ikonia> how tedious
[11:53] <ginbun2> hi
[11:54] <ginbun2> I would like to address my ban from #ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:54] <Tm_T> Pici: ^
[11:58] <ginbun2> I only have 15 min to talk \
[11:58] <ginbun2> :\
[11:58] <Tm_T> ginbun2: I would ask you to come back when you have plenty of time
[11:59] <ginbun2> such thing does not exist
[11:59] <ginbun2> I am disappointed by the fact that only Pici can deal with this issue
[12:01] <ikonia> ginbun2: I can deal with it
[12:01] <ikonia> ginbun2: what's going on with your behaviour latley ?
[12:01] <ginbun2> ikonia, so tell me how I can get the ban removed
[12:02] <ikonia> well, just need to stop with the behaviour, name calling, bad language etc etc, just fall in line with the channels guidelines ?
[12:02] <ginbun2> ikonia, it is a personal problem.
[12:02] <ikonia> that's pretty much the basics of it, you've been around long enough to know them
[12:02] <ginbun2> ikonia, I will take that into consideration
[12:02] <ikonia> ok, well come back when you've considered it and we'll look at resolving your ban
[12:07] <ikonia> ginbun2: do you want to come back when you've had time to consider please ?
[12:08] <ikonia> jijijijijiji: come on
[12:08] <ikonia> why are you doing this ?
[12:08] <jijijijijiji> connection dropped
[12:09] <jijijijijiji> ikonia, it is not my fault that my internet connection is this bad
[12:09] <ikonia> maybe you should come back when you have a stable connection
[12:09] <ikonia> and you've had time to think consider as you suggested
[12:09] <jijijijijiji> ikonia, I think it is stable now
[12:10] <ikonia> well, come back to discuss the bans when you've had time to consider as you said
[12:10] <jijijijijiji> ikonia, I will do my best to correct my behaviour
[12:10] <ikonia> jijijijijiji: I don't feel comfortable with that, what's causing you to persist with this behaviour ?
[12:11] <jijijijijiji> ikonia, honestly I don't know
[12:11] <jijijijijiji> ikonia, maybe in real life I use too much bad words
[12:11] <ikonia> that's fair enough, but from my point of view I can't let you back into the channel to start being a problem again
[12:11] <ikonia> it's not fair on others who follow the rules if they agree with them or not
[12:12] <jijijijijiji> ikonia, whatever. you sound like a republican
[12:12] <ikonia> I have no intention of keeping you banned but actions like calling someone a POS while you're trying to get a ban removed from another channel is a bit of slap in the face
[12:12] <ikonia> ok - so calling me names isn't going to help, I'm trying to be straight with you
[12:13] <ikonia> that's the sort of comment/behaviour that makes me uncomfortable about letting you back in, you don't seem to be able to control yourself
[12:15] <ikonia> jijijijijiji: maybe best if you took a few days to consider if there is anything that can be done to assist you in controling your behaviour, then we can look at removing the bans
[12:18] <jijijijijiji> ikonia, I am not going to discus this issue. It seems you want the impossible. I don't care if I don't can't have access #ubuntu or #ubuntu-offtopic from my ip. Ubuntu is not a NEED in my life. I don't need any help from #ubuntu or #ubuntu-offtopic. It seems #Ubuntu/-offtopic is ran by a bunch of republlicans/conservatives. Good day.
[12:19] <Tm_T> er?
[12:19] <ikonia> fair enough,
[12:20] <bazhang> hansi89 greeter bot from pcquad removed, I PM'd asking him to remove it no response
[12:20] <ikonia> @mark #ubuntu-ops ginbuntu does not wish to ban unbanned and can't help but respond with an attempted insult
[12:23] <jussi> ikonia: see PM.
[13:03] <jrib> I like that term ikonia, "attempted insult"
[13:03] <Pici> Odd.
[13:13] <jussi> hehe, I like it also :)
[14:02] <topyli> i'm pretty sure that's a greater felony than a successful one
[14:03] <Pici> Feel free to shoot down this idea: A channel dedicated to people whining about unity.
[14:04]  * LjL shoots down Pici
[14:05] <Pici> Its going to be a mess in #ubuntu and -offtopic come release day.
[14:05] <Pici> More than usual.
[14:14] <knome> Pici, there is a channel already for that, you can point people there
[14:14] <knome> Pici, #xubuntu
[14:20] <bazhang> so much for his see you April 28th comment gurke_ aka milhuu
[14:34] <Pici> ...
[14:34] <bazhang> had enough of his 10.04 or 10.10 polling
[14:34] <Pici> Me too.
[14:35] <bazhang> prepare for bestbot to be broken shortly
[14:35] <LjL> why?
[14:36] <bazhang> milhuu aka gurke_ is hitting it
[14:36] <LjL> it *should* be solid enough, throttling is based on the floodbot code
[14:36] <Pici> aka larstorben
[14:37] <bazhang> any reason to let him continue?
[14:37] <Pici> no
[14:37] <Pici> I just don't have the time to deal with him myself at the moment, so if you'd like to do the honors, go ahead.
[14:39] <Pici> bazhang: hilight me if you need help in -offtopic, I'm not completely paying attention to IRC right now.
[14:39] <bazhang> Pici, I'm going to take care of #ubuntu as no one has followed him there
[14:45] <bazhang> ginbuntu ban dodging in #ubuntu removed
[14:46] <Tm_T> in -ot too
[14:46] <bazhang> thanks
[14:46] <Tm_T> thank you for the headsup
[14:47] <topyli> he did say " I don't care if I don't can't have access #ubuntu or #ubuntu-offtopic from my ip."
[14:47] <LjL> he's banned from #ubuntu too?
[14:47] <Tm_T> yes
[14:47] <topyli> pretty much promises to evade there
[14:47] <Pici> I didn't think I banned him from #ubuntu
[14:48] <Tm_T> Pici: IIRC it wasn't you (:
[14:48] <Tm_T> but should check the logs
[14:48] <bazhang> it was ikonia
[14:48] <LjL> everyone stop trying to open the bantracker :(
[14:48] <bazhang> he called another user a POS after complaining he was banned here
[14:50] <mneptok> you're a point of sale!
[14:55] <popey> Cashier number five please!
[14:58] <mneptok> of course, i freely admit that i was very, VERY drunk.
[14:58] <mneptok> *harumph*
[15:39] <ikonia> popey: that sound cuts my soul at the moment...please don't
[15:40] <popey> :)
[15:42] <popey> I do a great rendition of the "bong" you get in planes, and the voice in the post office
[15:43] <ikonia> the plane I can live with, the post office would kill me after this weeks time in there
[16:00] <Pici> Heads up on lars/gurke/whatever in #kubuntu
[18:52] <guntbert> hi, how long does it usually take from the email to rt@ubuntu.com until ubuntulog will join a channel? I'm talking about #ubuntu-at (not that there is much log-worthy at the moment:-))
[18:53] <IdleOne> guntbert: give them a week if they don't take care of it email again
[18:53] <guntbert> IdleOne: will do, thx
[18:53] <IdleOne> but I think they are pretty fast usually
[18:54] <guntbert> understood :), we just didn't want to miss out on anything
[18:54] <genii-around> When does -release-party go live?
[18:56] <IdleOne> soon as you open it up
[18:56] <IdleOne> or tonyyarusso decides to
[19:00] <genii-around> Still 9 days. I guess usually 3-4 days beforehand
[19:07] <IdleOne> yeah normally
[19:37] <ikonia> how about 30 seconds before release ?
[19:41] <IdleOne> ikonia: and shut it down 2 minutes after?
[19:41] <IdleOne> I can live with that
[19:42] <genii-around> I was hoping it would remain open until after we have our parties here :)  ( 30th )
[21:03] <ikonia> what a total waste of time eagles trying to report bugs in #ubuntu-kernel I know he's not validating anything he's saying
[21:04] <Tm_T> he again?
[21:04] <ikonia> yes
[21:04] <ikonia> "nothind odd in dmesg or the syslog"....he doesn't even know where the syslog is
[21:04] <ikonia> let alone to look for "od" things
[21:34] <IdleOne> isn't gurke supposed to be banned?
[21:34] <maco> um.... no idea
[21:34] <IdleOne> checking
[21:34] <Tm_T> if not, ban on slightest reason
[21:35] <IdleOne> doesn't appear to be banned
[21:53] <IdleOne> I put a note in BT to unban gurke on release day. Please don't remove the ban until then.