[00:06] <genec> ScottK: bug 766654
[00:06] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 766654 in ubuntu-release-notes "btrfs: still considered experimental by kernel.org (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/766654
[00:12] <genec> oops.  somehow missed bug 619575
[00:12] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 619575 in btrfs-tools (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "btrfs-tools fsck bug can cause data loss (affects: 4) (dups: 1) (heat: 28)" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/619575
[00:48] <kees> ScottK: thanks!
[00:53] <ScottK> You're welcome.
[03:37] <skaet> hmm,  looks like there might be some archive synch up issues on the arm builds.
[03:37] <skaet> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[03:37] <skaet>  libnux-0.9-0 : Depends: libnux-0.9-common (= 0.9.44-0ubuntu2) but it is not going to be installed
[03:37] <skaet>  unity : Depends: unity-common (= 3.8.8-0ubuntu2) but it is not going to be installed
[03:56] <ScottK> skaet: They failed to build on armel.  I just retried them.
[03:56] <skaet> ScottK,   thanks!
[04:18] <ScottK> nux is building.  Unity also needed the newer nux, so it failed again.   It'll need another retry after nux is build and in the archive on armel.
[07:44] <pitti> skaet: scrutinizing the upstart diff in the queue now; was that the one you worried about?
[07:46] <pitti> skaet: the changes look quite reasonable to me; I found one place which might cause a potential bug (commented on bug 766206), but it's defensive now and fails the right way around
[07:46] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 766206 in upstart (Ubuntu Natty) (and 1 other project) "user session support allows non-priv users to gain root privileges (affects: 1) (heat: 10)" [Critical,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/766206
[07:46]  * pitti accepts and will take the bullets
[09:48] <cjwatson> I haven't done a full diff review, but the general purpose of the upstart change has my approval, FWIW
[14:01] <stgraber> skaet: for bug 746028 do we want the same "hack" I did for Edubuntu or should we wait to have an improved caching system (definitely post-natty) ? (touch the wallpaper in .postinst so that its timestamp gets bumped and triggers a cache update)
[14:01] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 746028 in gnome-settings-daemon (Ubuntu Natty) (and 1 other project) "Wallpapers are not updated on upgrade to Natty (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/746028
[14:07] <skaet> stgraber,   I think the touch approach will be fine for Natty, its low risk, so would be good if we could get it in.
[14:07] <stgraber> skaet: ok, I'll do a quick check to make sure it works fine with Edubuntu and if it does, will apply the same to Ubuntu and upload.
[14:08] <skaet> stgraber,  thanks!!  agree that this should be revisted post-Natty though.  :)
[14:09] <ara> good morning skaet
[14:09] <skaet> good morning ara.  :)
[14:09] <skaet> ara,  any worries on the hardware certification side?
[14:10] <ara> skaet, are we having a release meeting this Friday, or are we skipping due to the holidays?
[14:11] <skaet> ara,  will make a final call on it whether we have it or not tomorrow, when we have a better feel for how the initial images are building, and if there's any known kitten killers lurking.   Fingers crossed we won't need one.
[14:12] <ara> skaet, OK, please, let us know
[14:12] <ara> thanks!
[14:12] <skaet> ara, will do.
[14:12] <skaet> ara,  how are the results looking on the hardware cert tests?
[14:13] <ara> skaet, they are looking good
[14:13] <ara> skaet, we are preparing everything for the 11.04 certification testing after the release
[14:15] <skaet> ara, thanks - could you send me a summary of what we're currently seeing?   Would like to review, and make sure to ask any questions tomorrow if possible.
[14:16] <ara> skaet, nothing new apart from the bugs with blocks-hwcert tag
[14:20] <didrocks> skaet: stgraber reading comments on https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/746028? did you read my last comment on how few people are impacted by the change? (and the wallpaper isn't really changed for ubuntu, not edubuntu)
[14:20] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 746028 in gnome-settings-daemon (Ubuntu Natty) (and 1 other project) "Wallpapers are not updated on upgrade to Natty (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [High,Triaged]
[14:21] <stgraber> didrocks: yep, though if the touch does the trick, I don't see how it could hurt to do it
[14:22] <didrocks> stgraber: hum, not sure about the future, seems a little win there (and we already got that for lucid/maverick then, without complain apparently)
[14:22] <didrocks> it's just that the wallpaper was changed later, which has hidden the bug :)
[14:23] <didrocks> anyway, I'll fix that upstream for GNOME 3.2 (didn't see bug report about it on bugzilla as well)
[14:23] <didrocks> stgraber: I mean, little win for ubuntu-wallpapers, for edubuntu where the wallpaper is different, that's another story
[14:26] <skaet> didrocks,  touch seems low risk and makes things a little more resiliant in future,  so don't see much downside to putting it in, and for those who notice subtle differences, it will stop bugs.
[14:27]  * skaet --> heading out to QA meeting,  back on line later
[14:29] <didrocks> skaet: well, we didn't get bugs for the 2 previous cycles even having the same issue (I expect people installing maverick *now* for upgrading are not the majority). However, I think we will have a lot of bug reports about the wallpaper not changing (even when they are not affected by this bug) because it didn't change visually ;)
[14:48] <joshuahoover> the u1 team needs to release a new ubuntuone-client package to fix bug #764646 - can we get someone to review and give us the ok?
[14:48] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 764646 in ubuntuone-client (Ubuntu Natty) (and 4 other projects) "music store widget dies with «TypeError: find_credentials() takes exactly 3 arguments (2 given)» (affects: 3) (dups: 2) (heat: 26)" [Critical,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/764646
[14:48] <pitti> joshuahoover: pure bug fixes are fine and welcome at this point
[14:49] <joshuahoover> pitti: ah ok, thanks!
[15:01] <jibel> ev, ubiquity 2.6.6 is broken and today's desktop iso fails to install.
[15:02] <ev> jibel: the fix is in trunk
[15:02] <jibel> ev, ok
[15:02] <pitti> oh? I just finished a test install two hours ago on today's desktop daily
[15:02] <ev> I meant to upload it yesterday
[15:02] <ev> but I got caught up in this apt-clone issue
[15:02] <ev> pitti: are you sure it was today's desktop CD? The partitioner was very broken.
[15:03] <pitti> .disk/info says Ubuntu 11.04 "Natty Narwhal" - Beta amd64 (20110419)
[15:03] <pitti> so apparently not then
[15:04] <pitti> I rsynced it at 10:35 local, apparently I just missed today's one then, sorry
[15:04] <pitti> (8:35 UTC)
[15:05] <ev> no worries
[15:05] <ev> I'm nearly ready to upload a fixed version
[15:06] <jibel> ev, thanks.
[15:33] <pitti> what a version jump!
[15:39] <jibel> ev, once you uploaded the fix, can we rebuild the desktop images so we can try them today ?
[15:40] <ev> yes
[15:40] <ev> just waiting on the new console-setup to hit the archive
[15:41] <cjwatson> yeah, dupload is less forgiving of the GPG error than dput is, I think
[15:41] <cjwatson> reuploaded with dput
[15:42] <cjwatson> (the first one landed in cocoplum:~lp_queue/ubuntu-queue/failed/)
[15:47] <mvo> pitti: its all marketing!
[15:47] <stgraber> mvo: so you're expecting it to be the real real final upload ? :)
[15:48] <mvo> yes …
[15:48] <mvo> YES!
[15:49]  * pitti has that recorded!
[15:50] <mvo> lol
[16:14] <doko> pitti: please could you have a look at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/icedtea-web/+bug/767144
[16:14] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 767144 in icedtea-web (Ubuntu) "FFe - update to current trunk/1.1 release (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [Undecided,New]
[16:37] <cjwatson> can somebody review console-setup?
[16:37] <cjwatson> tiny change
[16:38] <doko> am I allowed to? not member of the release team ...
[16:41] <cjwatson> I think archive admin is sufficient for things that aren't feature changes
[18:10] <jhunt> hi all - I've just raised an MP for bug 767053.
[18:10] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 767053 in upstart (Ubuntu Natty) (and 1 other project) ""initctl status" no longer works as a non-privileged user (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/767053
[18:11] <cjwatson> it's fine if it's uploaded today
[18:13] <jhunt> orig.tar.gz in the usual place if required.
[18:16] <cjwatson> can you get SpamapS to upload it?
[18:16] <cjwatson> (dinnertime here)
[18:20] <jhunt> cjwatson: ack
[18:22] <jhunt> cjwatson: I've pinged SpamapS but he's away atm. I've gotta pop out but will try and check back later tonight...
[19:34] <cjwatson> jhunt: I can't find the upstart .orig.tar.gz
[19:35] <cjwatson> jhunt: can I have a link?  (I'm back now for a while)
[19:37] <stgraber> sorry for uploading ubuntu-wallpapers twice. Got the GPG error someone mentioned earlier ...
[19:37] <stgraber> they are both identical, so just reject one of them
[19:46] <kirkland> can someone please accept rabbitmq-stomp from https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/natty/+queue ?
[19:46] <kirkland> that has FTBFS until yesterday
[19:46] <kirkland> but now it builds!
[19:49] <cjwatson> stgraber: done (and accepted the other)
[19:59] <cjwatson> kirkland: accepted
[19:59] <kirkland> cjwatson: thanks
[20:46] <jhunt> cjwatson, SpamapS: link is chinstrap:/home/jhunt/upstart/upstart-0.9.7.tar.gz
[20:48] <Ampelbein> the apport upload from earlier broke installation and is generating lots of dupe-reports like 767496
[20:51] <cjwatson> jhunt: thanks
[20:52] <jhunt> np - sorry for the delay in replying.
[20:53] <cjwatson> man's gotta eat
[20:54] <cjwatson> I'm syncing up generated files with the tarball
[21:01] <cjwatson> jhunt: uploaded; somebody who isn't me will need to review/approve it
[21:02] <cjwatson> could somebody please review partman-auto (while I'm here to answer questions about it)?
[21:08] <slangasek> cjwatson: taking a look
[21:09] <cjwatson> http://lists.debian.org/debian-boot/2011/04/msg00333.html may be helpful for context
[21:10] <cjwatson> there was a followup questioning the safety of doing this for swap partitions, which isn't relevant to this upload since I didn't enable that
[21:21] <jhunt> cjwatson: thanks! I *will* fix that autogen problem when I get a chance :)
[21:22] <cjwatson> jhunt: maybe we can run through it with a scratch branch at the release sprint
[21:22] <jhunt> that'd be great, ta!
[21:24] <cjwatson> hm, the preserve-existing-partition stuff in the installer doesn't work for btrfs
[21:29] <slangasek> cjwatson: partman-auto accepted
[21:30] <ScottK> cjwatson: Sounds like fodder for the release note that says "BTRFS is supported in the installer, but it's all still experimental."
[21:31] <cjwatson> ScottK: could be, yeah
[21:31] <cjwatson> not sure I want to attempt a fix now
[21:31] <cjwatson> slangasek: thanks!
[21:32] <ScottK> Anyone who relies on any data being preserved on BTRFS is asking for it.
[21:33] <ScottK> We're already publishing updates through natty-security?
[21:33] <ScottK> I mean we are, but is it on purpose?
[21:34] <kees> ScottK: yes, I put non-essential updates into -security to avoid release archive churn.
[21:34] <kees> ScottK: is that causing problems?
[21:35] <ScottK> I don't think it's an actual problem, but I found it surprising that we were accepting them pre-release.
[21:36] <cjwatson> I think we've done it before
[21:37] <ScottK> OK.
[21:37] <ScottK> I often get surprised by things I shouldn't.
[21:38] <cjwatson> though I agree it seems odd at first, second, and third glance :-)
[21:54] <jhunt> can we discuss a plan for bug 436936? As mentioned, the latest gdm.conf (comment 26) on that bug "works for me", but I don't have the hardware to fully test the change.
[21:54] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 436936 in kdebase-workspace (Ubuntu Karmic) (and 9 other projects) "gdm upstart job checks /proc/cmdline for single user mode, won't start on post-boot runlevel change (affects: 15) (dups: 2) (heat: 86)" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/436936
[21:54] <jhunt> I spoke to apw re the 2 udev events we're checking for (graphics-device-added and drm-device-added) and it seems the order they arrive in isn't necessarily well understood?
[21:57] <stgraber> cjwatson: uploaded, just using "true" as an error handler did the trick
[22:00] <barry> hi all.  is there still time, and are any sponsors available for a no-change rebuild to eliminate a mod_python error log message?
[22:01] <ScottK> barry: Should be fine.
[22:01] <ScottK> (although I don't volunteer to sponsor it)
[22:01] <barry> ScottK: okay ;)
[22:05] <cjwatson> stgraber: thanks, accepted
[22:08] <ScottK> barry: Is this the same package we need the fix for to make the python3 version work with 3.2?
[22:08] <ScottK> If so, it might make sense just to upload with that fix.
[22:09] <barry> ScottK: no, it's a rebuild of libapache2-mod-python to get rid of an error log entry
[22:09] <ScottK> Right, the other one was mod-wsgi.
[22:09] <ScottK> Which means I probably made a wrong comment in a bug earlier today.
[22:09] <cjwatson> grub-installer could use a review too - RC (IMO) installer fix
[22:10] <barry> ScottK: oh well, it happens :)
[22:10] <barry> ScottK: what bug were you thinking about?
[22:11] <ScottK> The mod-python one about pulling in pyhon3.
[22:12] <ScottK> Although it doesn't appear to have any python3 in it now, so maybe I got lucky.
[22:14] <barry> could be bug 759943
[22:14] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 759943 in mod-wsgi (Ubuntu) "mod_wsgi.so-3.2 gives errors (affects: 1) (heat: 12)" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/759943
[22:20] <Daviey> barry, I need to upload that.
[22:42] <barry> Daviey: thanks
[22:45] <ScottK> Yeah.  That was the one.
[22:47] <Daviey> ScottK, jamespage reworked the upstream patch to encapsulate all references to only do different behaviour on 3.2.  So the same patch is valid on 3.1 and 3.2.
[22:47] <Daviey> He is going to fwd the patch to Debian.
[22:47] <ScottK> Yeah. I saw.  Just accepted it.
[22:48] <Daviey> groovy
[23:38] <cjwatson> could somebody review grub-installer, please?
[23:38] <cjwatson> it should be easy
[23:43] <ScottK> cjwatson: Done.
[23:59] <cjwatson> ScottK: thanks