[08:24] <arjunaraoc> యవబా
[08:26] <arjunaraoc> hi  I do not see localised Banshee with ubuntu 11.04 beta 2. Can someone explain what is needed to get localised banshee
[08:28] <artnay> arjunaraoc: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-translations/+bug/760258
[08:28] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 760258 in banshee (Ubuntu) (and 2 other projects) "Banshee shows untranslated due to an wrongly-named .mo file (affects: 3) (heat: 24)" [Undecided,Invalid]
[08:29] <artnay> so someone thought renaming is cool for no obvious reason and therefore translations were broken
[08:30] <arjunaraoc> thanks artnay
[08:34] <dpm> good morning
[08:36] <andrejz> morning
[08:39] <arjunaraoc> Hi,  I am reviewing 11.04 Beta 2 in Telugu and found that system settings  the names of the following are still in english Computer janitor, startup disk creator, Open JDK Java6 Policy tool, Broadcast Accounts, Broadcast preferences.  Can someone help locate the strings in launchpad packages
[08:42] <dpm> hi andrejz
[08:46] <dpm> hi arjunaraoc, for the java tool, I think it is untranslatable (you might want to file a bug); for computer janitor: https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/natty/+source/computer-janitor/+pots/computerjanitor/te/+translate; startup disk creator: https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/natty/+source/usb-creator/+pots/usbcreator/te/+translate; broadcast accounts and preferences: https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/natty/+source/gwibber/+p
[08:46] <dpm> ots/gwibber/te/+translate
[08:47] <arjunaraoc> Thx dpm
[08:47] <dpm> no worries
[08:51] <arjunaraoc> Regarding computer janitor Telugu string was translated as of  23 March https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/natty/+source/computer-janitor/+pots/computerjanitor/te/+translate?batch=10&show=all&search=computer+janitor
[08:51] <arjunaraoc> any reason why it did not make it to beta2?
[08:53] <arjunaraoc> same issue with startup disk creator https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/natty/+source/usb-creator/+pots/usbcreator/te/+translate?batch=10&show=all&search=disk+creator
[08:53] <artnay> arjunaraoc: when was your language pack built?
[08:53] <artnay> apt-cache show language-pack-name
[08:54] <arjunaraoc> artnay help me with the command please
[08:55] <arjunaraoc> andrej my empathy  behaved abnormally,  please share the command one more time
[08:55] <artnay> arjunaraoc: if you're running beta 2 or up-to-date natty, open terminal and type apt-cache show language-pack-te
[08:56] <artnay> it should show you the date
[08:57] <arjunaraoc> thx artnay  the telugu language pack Version: 1:11.04+20110407
[08:57] <arjunaraoc> our strings should have made it to beta 2
[09:08] <artnay> arjunaraoc: you could update the latest packages from main server and see if it helps
[09:09] <artnay> by default your system downloads packages from the nearest possible server (which might have older packages than the main server)
[09:12] <arjunaraoc> Unfortunately http://packages.ubuntu.com/natty/language-pack-te shows the same version number and date
[09:14] <arjunaraoc> As the entries are updated much before the build date, I could not understand how they could have been missed.
[09:19] <arjunaraoc> one more question.  Where are the entries for Keyboard layout?  like USA India Telugu, Keyboard preferences etc
[09:33] <artnay> arjunaraoc: might have been gnome-control-center-2.0
[09:37] <arjunaraoc> artnay, I checked it. It is fully translated long time back. I could not find India Telugu. I think these may be coming from some other package may be install. If it is install, we have translated debian-install 100%
[09:46] <arjunaraoc> The strings are not handled in the panel menus. within the control-centre they are fine.
[09:58] <artnay> arjunaraoc: can you file a bug? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-translations/+bugs?field.searchtext=layout&orderby=-importance&search=Search&field.status%3Alist=NEW&field.status%3Alist=INCOMPLETE_WITH_RESPONSE&field.status%3Alist=INCOMPLETE_WITHOUT_RESPONSE&field.status%3Alist=CONFIRMED&field.status%3Alist=TRIAGED&field.status%3Alist=INPROGRESS&field.status%3Alist=FIXCOMMITTED&field.assignee=&field.bug_reporter=&field.omit_dupes=on&field.has_pa
[09:58] <artnay> I don't think there exists one
[09:59] <arjunaraoc> thx artnay. I will do that
[10:01] <artnay> I don't even remember using keyboard layout changer
[10:05] <happyaron> dpm: hi, I think we should raise the priority of gnome-control-center on launchpad, since there are very visible strings (like the one you've asked me to fix)
[10:08] <yurchor> Entries for keyboard layouts are from xkeyboard-config: https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/natty/+source/xkeyboard-config/+pots/xkeyboard-config/te/+translate
[10:09] <yurchor> But I do not recomend to translate it now. Otherwise you will find just 33% for the next release. It would be better to translate version from TP.
[10:10] <yurchor> http://translationproject.org/domain/xkeyboard-config.html
[10:14] <arjunaraoc> thx yurchor,  I have added your comment as well to the bug  https://bugs.launchpad.net/docky/+bug/766959
[10:14] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 766959 in docky "Keyboard switcher menu in panel does not use translations (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New]
[10:15] <artnay> Is that specific to docky or is untranslated in Unity's panel as well?
[10:15] <artnay> ...it...
[10:17] <artnay> arjunaraoc: I moved it under ubuntu-translations
[10:17] <yurchor> arjunaraoc: It does not use translation because LP translations are not used by xkeyboard-config at all. You have to translate them on TP (orexport LP translation to TP).
[10:18] <arjunaraoc> Understand, we will take it up in due course
[10:18] <arjunaraoc> I am not sure the difference between docky and unity's panel.
[10:18] <arjunaraoc> I found the problem only in the panel (top right default place)
[10:22] <arjunaraoc> When totem installs plugins, the messages in dialog box are in English. Where can I locate them for translation
[10:22] <dpm> hi happyaron, good point, I agree. Do you want to change the priority yourself, or shall I do it?
[10:23] <yurchor> arjunaraoc: In gstreamer.
[10:24] <artnay> what's wrong with gnome-control-center?
[10:25] <happyaron> dpm: I'll do it now.
[10:25] <dpm> cool, thanks happyaron
[10:29] <happyaron> dpm: and does gdebi still needed to be that high priority?
[10:29] <happyaron> IIRC it has been replaced by software-center
[10:29] <arjunaraoc> thx yurchor
[10:32] <dpm> happyaron, you are right, probably not. Feel free to lower it. If it's not installed by default, it probably falls under category #17 in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Translations/TemplatesPriority
[10:33] <yurchor> https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Translations shows that KUbuntu switched to synaptiks. Does it make sense to have kcmtouchpad in 11.04 catalogue?
[10:34] <happyaron> dpm: okay, thanks!
[10:34] <dpm> I've been meaning to go through the templates order for a while, but I haven't had the chance. If you see anything else that needs re-prioritising, feel free to change it. What I did last week, though, was to go through the imports queue to make sure no important templates were stuck. I approved a bunch of KDE templates and we went down from 400 'Needs Review' templates to ~100.
[10:35] <happyaron> Great work, dpm :)
[10:35] <dpm> thanks ;)
[10:36] <dpm> hi yurchor, I'm not sure I understand the question. Do you mean that kcmtouchpad has moved to universe and we should remove it from the list of translatable templates, or that we should lower the priority of the template...?
[10:38] <yurchor> dpm: I do not think that KDE needs to KCM modules to configure touchpads. BTW kcmtouchpad is a little bit unmaitained.
[10:38] <yurchor> ^ two not to
[10:38] <dpm> yurchor, yeah, but are you suggesting we need to do anything in the context of templates in LP for kcmtouchpad?
[10:40] <yurchor> If Kubuntu do not need two modules, there is no need to propose people to translate the unused. Maybe it is worth to remove it?
[10:40]  * happyaron has lower gdebi to 1600
[10:41] <happyaron> I've read there are several string changes just announced on ubuntu-translations@, but the freeze seems to have already in effect?
[12:49] <dpm> happyaron, yeah, the freeze is in effect, and developers should announce freeze exceptions. They've been doing a good job at it so far, but no one is perfect ans some passed unnoticed. I'm really happy the German team noticed, took the initiative and announced them on the list.
[12:49] <dpm> That's community!
[12:57] <artnay> dpm: glad you asked about the "drop". shouldn't it be like "drag and drop to add application" ?
[13:01] <dpm> artnay, yeah, good point. Perhaps, but at this point, I'd rather not change it again :) Would you mind filing a bug against Unity to report it?
[13:01] <artnay> dpm: I'll do it later, first I have to see the tooltip in action
[13:01] <dpm> ok, no worries
[14:01] <happyaron> dpm: so when would be the next deadline?
[14:01] <dpm> happyaron, in an hour :)
[14:02] <happyaron> OK
[14:04] <dpm> run run run :)
[14:14] <happyaron> dpm: what about the slidshow translations? are they still changeable now?
[14:15] <askhl_> Wait, final deadline is in one hour?
[14:15] <dpm> happyaron, no, in principle they are not. They can only be translated until NonLanguagePackDeadline (last week). However, if you are lucky the devs might still do an export of translations
[14:15] <happyaron> askhl_: seems yes
[14:15] <happyaron> dpm: thanks
[14:16] <dpm> askhl_, yeah, as mentioned in the list, in ~45 minutes, at 14:00 UTC
[14:17] <askhl_> dpm: thanks, I'll do some final review
[14:17] <askhl_> TLE: ping :)
[14:17] <TLE> pong
[14:18] <TLE> ahh deadline nowish
[14:18] <TLE> crap
[14:22] <andrejz> i am just chilling cause i cannot find anything else to do :) really nice thing
[14:23] <andrejz> i need to do some docs, but it's not affected by the launchpad deadline
[14:24] <happyaron> well, I was not participate very much in 10.10 and 11.04 cycles, but I'll be back in next one. :)
[14:40] <askhl_> crisis averted... not that much of a crisis actually :)
[14:54] <dpm> happyaron, cool, happy to hear that and have you back in full swing next cycle! :-)
[15:00]  * dpm rings the bell: translation deadline is up! \o/
[15:27] <happyaron> ：）
[17:48] <AJenbo> dpm, could you help clear some confusion about the translation deadline?
[17:49] <AJenbo> acording to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NattyReleaseSchedule the deadline is UTC midnight to night
[17:50] <dpm> AJenbo, it was today at 14:00 UTC, as mentioned on the translators list. There isn't any mention of UTC midnight on that page ^
[17:51] <AJenbo> dpm look at the top of the page
[17:51] <AJenbo> Freezes normally happen at the start of the given date, UTC time.
[17:52] <AJenbo> So LanguagePackTranslationDeadline is 0:00 21 of April UTC
[17:54] <AJenbo> In the mail to the list you also say that the you would start generating the final lang pack Thursday 14:00, but that is 24 hours before deadline so how does that work?
[17:54] <AJenbo> The deadline you gave any way.
[17:55] <dpm> AJenbo, a freeze is not a deadline. If I said thursday, that was a mistake, but IIRC, I did mention explicitly that the deadline was on the 20th
[17:55] <dpm> anyway, I need to run, have a nice weekend!
[17:55] <AJenbo> ok
[17:56] <AJenbo> dpm, it sayes deadline and not freeze
[17:59] <AJenbo> but if you are saying that the line about the UTC start of day only applys for freezes then at the very least the schedule is wrong about the date of the deadline
[18:00] <AJenbo> as it sayes it is some time 21 of april
[18:00] <Traumness> hi
[18:00] <Traumness> ¿any en>es translator?
[18:06] <Traumness> how would you translate dropped in this context?
[18:06] <Traumness> Panel applets using Bonobo aren't supported anymore and packages depending on it will be dropped.
[18:40] <AJenbo> Traumness, don't know if this helps but i translated it as "release"
[18:40] <AJenbo> Traumness, no wrong line
[18:41] <Traumness> hehe :)
[18:41] <AJenbo> Traumness, it's dropped as in "will no longer be used" or "will be removed"
[18:43] <Traumness> AJenbo: I translated it this way >>> Los applets del panel que usan Bonobo ya no sirven por tanto los paquetes que dependan de él se eliminarán.
[18:43] <Traumness> thanks, dude
[18:43] <Traumness> I got another question
[18:44] <Traumness> how would you translate ( upstream update )?
[18:45] <andrejz> Update from the "source project"
[18:50] <Traumness> okay
[20:07] <Traumness> bye