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iheartubuntuerichammond - thats exactly how Ubuntu has been for me. Ive done all sorts of tweaks and customizations the first few years, now the past year or so im going all vanilla install and just trying to use whats given to me00:52
iheartubuntuempathy instead of pidgin, etc00:53
nightmorphalmost time to head out to the meetup02:53
pleia2have fun :)02:54
nightmorphwho all's goin'?02:55
erichammondHas empathy gotten better since Lucid?  I tried it there and switched back to pidgin.02:57
iheartubuntuerichammond - i really like empathy a lot03:14
iheartubuntui now like it better than pidgin03:14
iheartubuntuthe Natty version of empathy has some upgempathyrades to the 10.1003:14
* crashsystems has a new camera :D03:15
iheartubuntuthe Natty version of empathy has some upgrades to the 10.10 empathy03:15
iheartubuntuwhat kind of camera??03:15
crashsystemsCanon 60D, with a 24-70mm 2.8/L lense03:15
iheartubuntui want a DSLR badly03:16
crashsystemsThis is my second, the first being about 100 years ago (or so it seems)03:16
iheartubuntu18MP? jeez03:16
iheartubuntumy trusty kodak fake dslr is only 5mp03:16
crashsystemsyou don't really need more than 5 in most cases, though its nice to have03:17
iheartubuntuive been looking at costco lately... they have some bundle deals03:17
crashsystemsI was given the following advice from multiple sources: spend more on your lens than on your camera.03:18
iheartubuntuthe new natty emapthy has easy to use sliders next to each account to turn them off or on03:18
iheartubuntuplus emapthy does IRC pretty good too03:18
crashsystemsbtw has irc gotten any better in empathy since 10.04?03:18
crashsystemshah03:18
iheartubuntui dont know about 10.04, but 10.10 and 11.04 are pretty similar03:19
crashsystemsso, it does basic IRC commands and such?03:19
iheartubuntuyes, for sure03:20
iheartubuntuIRC password, etc03:20
crashsystemsI may switch back then03:20
iheartubuntui like empathys feature of "people nearby"03:23
iheartubuntuusing it at a university, i can see other users who have mac . i cant send them messages though. dont know if they can see me03:24
crashsystemsIIRC that is bonjure03:25
iheartubuntuerichammond i am not a fan of all the key commands in natty so switched to ubuntu classic mode03:29
crashsystemsiheartubuntu: btw you can change any unity shortcut key you want03:31
iheartubuntui did that for a  time before natty with compiz. i just like having my desktops down in the bottom right panel and mouse clicking to each dektop, sure is easier than having to do extra key commands and then mouse clicking03:32
iheartubuntumaybe im getting old and not into things changing :)03:34
iheartubuntui knew it was all downhill when baseball players birthdates got younger than mine03:35
crashsystemslol03:36
ubuuserokay, is anyone actually at starbucks for the meetup?03:49
pleia2philipballew should be there at least (he's the organizer)03:51
ubuuseror am i sitting here...all alone....03:51
pleia2ubuuser: are you nightmorph?03:51
ubuuseraye03:51
ubuuserjust arrived. yay for free wifi.03:52
pleia2emailing philip now03:53
ubuuserit's prolly the 3 dudes at the next table over. but there are lots of tables, and everyone's got their machines out. for all i know it was cancelled, and i'm the only ubuntunerd here03:54
pleia2nah, philip just sent the announcement out yesterday :)03:55
pleia2in a perfect world someone would be wearing an ubuntu tshirt of have linux stickers on their laptop03:55
pleia2s/of/or03:55
akkWe didn't do that too well the first couple times in Mountain View.03:56
akkNow we know to make it a lot clearer.03:56
akk(I was wearing an ubuntu shirt, but who can tell with a sweater and jacket over it? :)03:56
pleia2hehe03:56
ubuuserah03:56
akkIt's easier in summer!03:57
pleia2doh03:58
iheartubuntuthe San Diego Ubuntu Hour is at a diff lcation I think than the one from the week before04:00
iheartubuntuthere was one in downtown, and now i think todays UH was at a diff location04:01
iheartubuntulemme check04:01
iheartubuntuwhich location are you at ubuuser? panera bread or starbucks?04:03
pleia2he left04:03
pleia2he said he was at starbucks04:03
pleia2hopefully he found them :)04:04
iheartubuntuthe ubu users IP didnt give me much info04:05
iheartubuntuhow is the weather in SF pleia204:07
pleia2gloomy04:08
iheartubuntumy app was not accepted this time around for the UDS. just got the email today. always next time!04:08
pleia2yeah, and next time it's in Orlando so no 10 hour flight ;)04:08
iheartubuntuinitially i was put onto the backup team04:08
pleia2ah04:08
iheartubuntui need to scurry and find somewhere to take my wife for her bday in may :)04:09
iheartubuntuim thinking quebec city04:10
iheartubuntuanyone been there?04:10
iheartubuntulooks interesting. a french walled city up on a hill04:10
iheartubuntuby a river04:10
pleia2canada?04:14
iheartubuntuyah04:15
iheartubuntuits french :) without going to france04:15
* iheartubuntu is lazy04:15
pleia2lol04:15
iheartubuntuphilip said he found the guy04:15
pleia2yay!04:15
pleia2where did he say?04:15
iheartubuntuwhere?04:16
pleia2did you email him?04:16
iheartubuntutweet04:16
pleia2oh, good :)04:16
iheartubuntuphilip replies to tweets immediately. faster than when i email him anyhow04:17
pleia2good to know04:17
iheartubuntuactually i probably would too since i get tweet alerts on my phone04:17
* iheartubuntu wishes he had android tho04:18
* pleia2 never hears her phone04:18
iheartubuntuis the unity in 10.10 the same as in natty?04:20
crashsystemsno04:21
iheartubuntuso i wouldnt get the same xperience then04:22
crashsystemsnope04:22
crashsystemsfor natty unity was rewritten as a compiz plugin04:22
crashsystems11.04 unity is much, much better than 10.10 unity04:23
iheartubuntui thought this was interesting...04:23
iheartubuntuU.S. companies cut their work forces in the U.S. by 2.9 million during the 2000s while increasing employment overseas by 2.4 million04:23
iheartubuntuhttp://www.businessinsider.com/big-2011-404:24
iheartubuntulibrary closing. need to pack up.04:31
iheartubuntuViszlát mindenki! (hungarian for "goodbye everyone")04:31
iheartubuntupleia2 - r u attending budapest?04:32
pleia2iheartubuntu: yep04:32
pleia2working with the hungarian loco now to plan some night tourism04:32
iheartubuntuthe google translate app does voice translations now :) very nice04:32
pleia2cool04:32
iheartubuntuwhat would be super helpful is taking a camera shot of a sign and having it translate the text04:33
nightmorphof course my ip didn't give you much info -- i was at the starbucks wifi point05:43
nightmorphpleia2: yeah, it turned out it WAS the three geeky dudes right beside me. we had a good time. lookin' forward to next month's meet.05:44
iheartubuntui normally use googles "reader" to read my rss feeds. is there any non web readers people like? i know evolution & thunderbird have readers17:13
akkI couldn't find one, so I wrote my own.17:15
akkAll the prefab ones I found were either web or email based, and I needed something to gather static pages so I could read them offline.17:16
iheartubuntudo you have a ppa? :)17:19
akkNo, it's just a python script ... I suppose some day I should figure out how to package these individual python scripts, but it seems like a lot of extra work.17:21
akkhttp://shallowsky.com/software/feedme/17:21
iheartubuntuakk, whats your middle name? "awesome"?17:23
iheartubuntuyou didnt like liferea17:24
akkI wasn't actually looking for a desktop reader (looks like that's what liferea is); just an aggregator/downloader since I read on a mobile device.17:27
akk(then I had to write a mobile reader too, when I switched from palm to android)17:27
jamaltamorning17:41
pleia2morning17:41
jamaltahow's it going? :)17:41
pleia2good good17:41
jamaltaoh cool, ubuntu hour is tonight17:42
jamaltai'll have to see if i can make it in time.. i have an appointment before that17:42
pleia2nhaines: yay, I see your blog is hitting the planet again!17:50
kdubour ubuntu hour went pretty good yesterday17:53
kdub2 new people17:53
akk\o/17:54
pleia2nice :)17:54
kdubwe found the person who was on irc asking where everyone was17:55
iheartubuntuso where was he? next table over?17:57
iheartubuntu:)17:57
kdubyea17:59
=== erichammond1 is now known as erichammond
nhainespleia2: yes, they claimed not to find anything wrong but they did check it out.  :)19:36
iheartubuntuhas anyone using Natty updated within thel ast hour or two and it asking to remove Empathy?20:10
aadityaNatty nuked Empathy? yay.20:12
jamaltaWhat would they push on us instead of Empathy?21:03
akkMaybe it was just a botched dependency? That happens sometimes in big updates.21:27
iheartubuntuempathy?21:37
iheartubuntuit asked me to do a partial upgrade and i noticed it wanted to remove empathy21:38
iheartubuntuahhh what the heck... i updated anyways :)21:38
iheartubuntui notice the new empathy 3.x.x is available in the reps but it wont let me install it21:38
* iheartubuntu is back using pidgin for now21:38
iheartubuntui think i will try a reboot21:43
nhainesA reboot won't change anything.  It's a broken dependancy in the repos.22:13
akkoh, didn't even occur to me the reboot was connected to the dependency issue. :)22:14
nhainesakk: there's a lot of non-sequitur conclusions in this channel when it comes to support.  :(22:18
akkIndeed, nhaines. You're probably right, just didn't occur to me.22:18
nhainesakk: on the other hand, I have been auditing tech calls and emails all day, so maybe I'm just being cynical.  :)22:20
akkThat probably means you're being more realistic. :)22:20
nhainesPossibly.  :)22:21

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