[00:52] <iheartubuntu> erichammond - thats exactly how Ubuntu has been for me. Ive done all sorts of tweaks and customizations the first few years, now the past year or so im going all vanilla install and just trying to use whats given to me
[00:53] <iheartubuntu> empathy instead of pidgin, etc
[02:53] <nightmorph> almost time to head out to the meetup
[02:54] <pleia2> have fun :)
[02:55] <nightmorph> who all's goin'?
[02:57] <erichammond> Has empathy gotten better since Lucid?  I tried it there and switched back to pidgin.
[03:14] <iheartubuntu> erichammond - i really like empathy a lot
[03:14] <iheartubuntu> i now like it better than pidgin
[03:14] <iheartubuntu> the Natty version of empathy has some upgempathyrades to the 10.10
[03:15]  * crashsystems has a new camera :D
[03:15] <iheartubuntu> the Natty version of empathy has some upgrades to the 10.10 empathy
[03:15] <iheartubuntu> what kind of camera??
[03:15] <crashsystems> Canon 60D, with a 24-70mm 2.8/L lense
[03:16] <iheartubuntu> i want a DSLR badly
[03:16] <crashsystems> This is my second, the first being about 100 years ago (or so it seems)
[03:16] <iheartubuntu> 18MP? jeez
[03:16] <iheartubuntu> my trusty kodak fake dslr is only 5mp
[03:17] <crashsystems> you don't really need more than 5 in most cases, though its nice to have
[03:17] <iheartubuntu> ive been looking at costco lately... they have some bundle deals
[03:18] <crashsystems> I was given the following advice from multiple sources: spend more on your lens than on your camera.
[03:18] <iheartubuntu> the new natty emapthy has easy to use sliders next to each account to turn them off or on
[03:18] <iheartubuntu> plus emapthy does IRC pretty good too
[03:18] <crashsystems> btw has irc gotten any better in empathy since 10.04?
[03:18] <crashsystems> hah
[03:19] <iheartubuntu> i dont know about 10.04, but 10.10 and 11.04 are pretty similar
[03:19] <crashsystems> so, it does basic IRC commands and such?
[03:20] <iheartubuntu> yes, for sure
[03:20] <iheartubuntu> IRC password, etc
[03:20] <crashsystems> I may switch back then
[03:23] <iheartubuntu> i like empathys feature of "people nearby"
[03:24] <iheartubuntu> using it at a university, i can see other users who have mac . i cant send them messages though. dont know if they can see me
[03:25] <crashsystems> IIRC that is bonjure
[03:29] <iheartubuntu> erichammond i am not a fan of all the key commands in natty so switched to ubuntu classic mode
[03:31] <crashsystems> iheartubuntu: btw you can change any unity shortcut key you want
[03:32] <iheartubuntu> i did that for a  time before natty with compiz. i just like having my desktops down in the bottom right panel and mouse clicking to each dektop, sure is easier than having to do extra key commands and then mouse clicking
[03:34] <iheartubuntu> maybe im getting old and not into things changing :)
[03:35] <iheartubuntu> i knew it was all downhill when baseball players birthdates got younger than mine
[03:36] <crashsystems> lol
[03:49] <ubuuser> okay, is anyone actually at starbucks for the meetup?
[03:51] <pleia2> philipballew should be there at least (he's the organizer)
[03:51] <ubuuser> or am i sitting here...all alone....
[03:51] <pleia2> ubuuser: are you nightmorph?
[03:51] <ubuuser> aye
[03:52] <ubuuser> just arrived. yay for free wifi.
[03:53] <pleia2> emailing philip now
[03:54] <ubuuser> it's prolly the 3 dudes at the next table over. but there are lots of tables, and everyone's got their machines out. for all i know it was cancelled, and i'm the only ubuntunerd here
[03:55] <pleia2> nah, philip just sent the announcement out yesterday :)
[03:55] <pleia2> in a perfect world someone would be wearing an ubuntu tshirt of have linux stickers on their laptop
[03:55] <pleia2> s/of/or
[03:56] <akk> We didn't do that too well the first couple times in Mountain View.
[03:56] <akk> Now we know to make it a lot clearer.
[03:56] <akk> (I was wearing an ubuntu shirt, but who can tell with a sweater and jacket over it? :)
[03:56] <pleia2> hehe
[03:56] <ubuuser> ah
[03:57] <akk> It's easier in summer!
[03:58] <pleia2> doh
[04:00] <iheartubuntu> the San Diego Ubuntu Hour is at a diff lcation I think than the one from the week before
[04:01] <iheartubuntu> there was one in downtown, and now i think todays UH was at a diff location
[04:01] <iheartubuntu> lemme check
[04:03] <iheartubuntu> which location are you at ubuuser? panera bread or starbucks?
[04:03] <pleia2> he left
[04:03] <pleia2> he said he was at starbucks
[04:04] <pleia2> hopefully he found them :)
[04:05] <iheartubuntu> the ubu users IP didnt give me much info
[04:07] <iheartubuntu> how is the weather in SF pleia2
[04:08] <pleia2> gloomy
[04:08] <iheartubuntu> my app was not accepted this time around for the UDS. just got the email today. always next time!
[04:08] <pleia2> yeah, and next time it's in Orlando so no 10 hour flight ;)
[04:08] <iheartubuntu> initially i was put onto the backup team
[04:08] <pleia2> ah
[04:09] <iheartubuntu> i need to scurry and find somewhere to take my wife for her bday in may :)
[04:10] <iheartubuntu> im thinking quebec city
[04:10] <iheartubuntu> anyone been there?
[04:10] <iheartubuntu> looks interesting. a french walled city up on a hill
[04:10] <iheartubuntu> by a river
[04:14] <pleia2> canada?
[04:15] <iheartubuntu> yah
[04:15] <iheartubuntu> its french :) without going to france
[04:15]  * iheartubuntu is lazy
[04:15] <pleia2> lol
[04:15] <iheartubuntu> philip said he found the guy
[04:15] <pleia2> yay!
[04:15] <pleia2> where did he say?
[04:16] <iheartubuntu> where?
[04:16] <pleia2> did you email him?
[04:16] <iheartubuntu> tweet
[04:16] <pleia2> oh, good :)
[04:17] <iheartubuntu> philip replies to tweets immediately. faster than when i email him anyhow
[04:17] <pleia2> good to know
[04:17] <iheartubuntu> actually i probably would too since i get tweet alerts on my phone
[04:18]  * iheartubuntu wishes he had android tho
[04:18]  * pleia2 never hears her phone
[04:20] <iheartubuntu> is the unity in 10.10 the same as in natty?
[04:21] <crashsystems> no
[04:22] <iheartubuntu> so i wouldnt get the same xperience then
[04:22] <crashsystems> nope
[04:22] <crashsystems> for natty unity was rewritten as a compiz plugin
[04:23] <crashsystems> 11.04 unity is much, much better than 10.10 unity
[04:23] <iheartubuntu> i thought this was interesting...
[04:23] <iheartubuntu> U.S. companies cut their work forces in the U.S. by 2.9 million during the 2000s while increasing employment overseas by 2.4 million
[04:24] <iheartubuntu> http://www.businessinsider.com/big-2011-4
[04:31] <iheartubuntu> library closing. need to pack up.
[04:31] <iheartubuntu> Viszlát mindenki! (hungarian for "goodbye everyone")
[04:32] <iheartubuntu> pleia2 - r u attending budapest?
[04:32] <pleia2> iheartubuntu: yep
[04:32] <pleia2> working with the hungarian loco now to plan some night tourism
[04:32] <iheartubuntu> the google translate app does voice translations now :) very nice
[04:32] <pleia2> cool
[04:33] <iheartubuntu> what would be super helpful is taking a camera shot of a sign and having it translate the text
[05:43] <nightmorph> of course my ip didn't give you much info -- i was at the starbucks wifi point
[05:44] <nightmorph> pleia2: yeah, it turned out it WAS the three geeky dudes right beside me. we had a good time. lookin' forward to next month's meet.
[17:13] <iheartubuntu> i normally use googles "reader" to read my rss feeds. is there any non web readers people like? i know evolution & thunderbird have readers
[17:15] <akk> I couldn't find one, so I wrote my own.
[17:16] <akk> All the prefab ones I found were either web or email based, and I needed something to gather static pages so I could read them offline.
[17:19] <iheartubuntu> do you have a ppa? :)
[17:21] <akk> No, it's just a python script ... I suppose some day I should figure out how to package these individual python scripts, but it seems like a lot of extra work.
[17:21] <akk> http://shallowsky.com/software/feedme/
[17:23] <iheartubuntu> akk, whats your middle name? "awesome"?
[17:24] <iheartubuntu> you didnt like liferea
[17:27] <akk> I wasn't actually looking for a desktop reader (looks like that's what liferea is); just an aggregator/downloader since I read on a mobile device.
[17:27] <akk> (then I had to write a mobile reader too, when I switched from palm to android)
[17:41] <jamalta> morning
[17:41] <pleia2> morning
[17:41] <jamalta> how's it going? :)
[17:41] <pleia2> good good
[17:42] <jamalta> oh cool, ubuntu hour is tonight
[17:42] <jamalta> i'll have to see if i can make it in time.. i have an appointment before that
[17:50] <pleia2> nhaines: yay, I see your blog is hitting the planet again!
[17:53] <kdub> our ubuntu hour went pretty good yesterday
[17:53] <kdub> 2 new people
[17:54] <akk> \o/
[17:54] <pleia2> nice :)
[17:55] <kdub> we found the person who was on irc asking where everyone was
[17:57] <iheartubuntu> so where was he? next table over?
[17:57] <iheartubuntu> :)
[17:59] <kdub> yea
[19:36] <nhaines> pleia2: yes, they claimed not to find anything wrong but they did check it out.  :)
[20:10] <iheartubuntu> has anyone using Natty updated within thel ast hour or two and it asking to remove Empathy?
[20:12] <aaditya> Natty nuked Empathy? yay.
[21:03] <jamalta> What would they push on us instead of Empathy?
[21:27] <akk> Maybe it was just a botched dependency? That happens sometimes in big updates.
[21:37] <iheartubuntu> empathy?
[21:38] <iheartubuntu> it asked me to do a partial upgrade and i noticed it wanted to remove empathy
[21:38] <iheartubuntu> ahhh what the heck... i updated anyways :)
[21:38] <iheartubuntu> i notice the new empathy 3.x.x is available in the reps but it wont let me install it
[21:38]  * iheartubuntu is back using pidgin for now
[21:43] <iheartubuntu> i think i will try a reboot
[22:13] <nhaines> A reboot won't change anything.  It's a broken dependancy in the repos.
[22:14] <akk> oh, didn't even occur to me the reboot was connected to the dependency issue. :)
[22:18] <nhaines> akk: there's a lot of non-sequitur conclusions in this channel when it comes to support.  :(
[22:18] <akk> Indeed, nhaines. You're probably right, just didn't occur to me.
[22:20] <nhaines> akk: on the other hand, I have been auditing tech calls and emails all day, so maybe I'm just being cynical.  :)
[22:20] <akk> That probably means you're being more realistic. :)
[22:21] <nhaines> Possibly.  :)