[00:01] <tjagoda> I think that is correct
[00:11] <jrwren> ok, forget cobbler... are there any helpers for setting up a PXE server?
[00:52] <brousch> wait a minute. rush's singer is a man?
[00:54] <brousch> i always thought it was a woman singing tom sawyer
[00:56] <greg-g> lol@brousch
[00:57] <brousch> no way that's a man
[00:57] <brousch> geez, she is ugly. good thing she can sing
[01:19] <snap-l> brousch: You wound me
[01:30] <snap-l> Got my interview with Cloudkicker bagged.
[01:30] <snap-l> Exporting it now
[01:31] <rick_h__> yay
[01:32] <snap-l> Man my flash is completely fucked
[01:32] <snap-l> both under Chrome and Firefox
[01:32] <greg-g> snap-l: w00t! interviews!
[01:32] <snap-l> Yeah, should be out by Friday.
[01:33] <greg-g> weird, I usually go to chrome when Fx's is messed up since the whole "chrome bundles everything" thing :)
[01:33] <snap-l> Was looking forward to this one. He's definitely got some interesting music, and I want to help promote him as best I can
[01:33] <snap-l> greg-g: Yeah, I know
[01:33] <snap-l> I've been using Chrome just for that reason
[01:45] <tjagoda> I use the native 64bit Alpha 2 from Adobe
[01:45] <tjagoda> gives me brilliantly solid flash
[01:45] <tjagoda> everything else is either flaky or crashy
[03:25] <jjesse> yay for thunderstorms
[03:43] <snap-l> Yeah, we're starting to get some storms as well
[13:21] <rick_h__> morning party people
[13:37] <snap-l> Good morning
[13:38] <brousch> no
[13:38] <snap-l> Great morning?
[13:40] <rick_h__> no
[13:43] <snap-l> Well, poo
[13:43] <jjesse> mroning
[13:43] <rick_h__> yea, might not make CHC tonight snap-l
[13:44] <rick_h__> germ attack again, so not sure how it'll be tonight
[13:45] <snap-l> ugh, sorry to hear that
[13:45] <snap-l> hope you feel better quickly
[13:47] <rick_h__> yea, thinking of early bed and try to make sure I can still do Friday
[14:22] <rick_h__> heh, snap-l but tweetdeck doesn't talk to identica
[14:24] <jrwren> morning.
[14:25] <jrwren> PXE is FAST.
[14:25] <jrwren> or rather, gigabit network installs are FAST
[14:25] <rick_h__> rgr
[14:26] <rick_h__> now imagine 10G
[14:38] <rick_h__> http://phx.corporate-ir.net/phoenix.zhtml?c=176060&p=irol-newsArticle&ID=1552678&highlight=
[14:38] <rick_h__> awesome
[14:38] <rick_h__> I might go to the library for the first time since high school
[14:38] <rick_h__> or maybe jr high
[14:38] <snap-l> rick_h__: I thought tweetdeck did talk to identi.ca?
[14:39] <jrwren> i can't imagine 10G. My disks aren't faster than gigabit so I don't think 10Gbit would help much
[14:39] <jrwren> lol... my wife goes to teh library every week.
[14:39] <snap-l> We used to go to the library about once a week
[14:39] <snap-l> unfortunately we haven't duplicated that over here
[14:40] <snap-l> We'll probably do more once the weather clears up, and we can just walk there
[14:40] <rick_h__> snap-l: well, maybe the air client, but not the google chrome app
[14:40] <rick_h__> yea, my wife is a library person
[14:40] <rick_h__> I alwauys lived on base growing up so the library was a trip
[14:40] <snap-l> verifying
[14:40] <rick_h__> so I've been a bookstore/etc person forever
[14:42] <rick_h__> http://blog.tweetdeck.com/introducing-chromedeck-our-shiny-new-friend
[14:42] <rick_h__> search for identica in that thread of comments
[14:43] <snap-l> nice.
[14:43] <rick_h__> yea
[14:44] <rick_h__> http://identi.ca/mitechie/all
[14:44] <rick_h__> 80% snapl, 10% spam, 10% I don't care
[14:45] <snap-l> http://identi.ca/snapl/all
[14:46] <brousch> 100% snap-l FTW!
[14:57] <rick_h__> woot! pyohio call for talks coming soon
[14:57] <rick_h__> thinking of doing one on sqlalchemy
[14:57] <rick_h__> any requests?
[15:09] <rick_h__> http://blog.venthur.de/2011/04/20/introducing-python-ardrone/ too cool
[15:12] <rick_h__> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EmQOEX9a3tM&feature=youtu.be hah
[15:15] <snap-l> That's awesome
[15:15] <snap-l> I was hoping it was a little more autonomous, but I don't think it has the stuff on there to be environment aware.
[15:15] <rick_h__> jcastro: there you go, take your heli addiction to a new level
[15:15] <rick_h__> python powered
[15:16] <jcastro> lol
[15:16] <jcastro> awesome
[15:16] <jcastro> I need glue to fix my rotor
[15:16] <rick_h__> yea, needs gps on there
[15:16] <snap-l> jcastro: Already snapped it?
[15:16] <rick_h__> but it's wifi, so it can't travel all that far or you lose signal
[15:17] <snap-l> yeah, but still. ;)
[15:17] <rick_h__> yea, think you have to move up to the few $k models to get what you want
[16:32] <rick_h__> http://www.bgr.com/2011/04/20/apple-recording-storing-gps-position-of-iphone-3g-ipad-users-video/
[16:32] <rick_h__> so how will the fanboi's spin this?
[16:32] <rick_h__> google grabs a couple seconds of wifi data, big huge fines
[16:32] <brousch> apple is only doing it to help law enforcement find you when you're kidnapped
[16:32] <rick_h__> apple tracks all your location for a full year? ...
[16:32] <brousch> it's for your own good
[16:40] <PainBank> Evo or Evo Shift?  Any thoughts?  Evo has Android 2.1 and the Shift has 2.2...
[16:42] <brousch> which one has better cyanogenmod support?
[16:48] <rick_h__> love this "there's no reason to worry, this data has't left your phone"
[16:48] <rick_h__> ummm, but if your phone is lost/stolen (or your laptop wiht the backup) they now know everywhere you've been the last year
[16:48] <rick_h__> and when you were there
[16:49] <greg-g> or the gobment who searches your devices at border crossings
[16:50] <rick_h__> exactly
[16:50] <rick_h__> I wasn't going to go law enforcement since most people think 'not me'
[16:50] <rick_h__> but you see that story the MI police can backup a whole phone for a traffic stop these day?
[16:51] <rick_h__> that file with your 1yr of location points is in that data
[16:51] <rick_h__> http://exchange.ydr.com/index.php?showtopic=10996
[16:51] <greg-g> rick_h__: what the hell? backup a whole phone for speeding? ef that
[16:51] <greg-g> I'm keeping my dumb phone from 2005 forever then
[16:52] <rick_h__> yea, they've got a device that in 30s will backup all of the data, pics, call logs, etc
[16:52]  * greg-g pets his Sanyo VI-2300
[16:52] <PainBank> hmm...
[16:52] <rick_h__> Complete extraction of existing, hidden, and deleted phone data, including call history, text messages, contacts, images, and geotags,
[16:52] <greg-g> other than the battery being a bit lame, this thing is a tank.
[16:54] <rick_h__> the sanyo vi-2300 is cable #67 for connection
[16:55] <rick_h__> http://www.cellebrite.com/ufed-support-center/ufed-supported-phones.html
[16:59] <greg-g> rick_h__: thanks :)
[17:00] <rick_h__> greg-g: you can be helpful to the office when he tries to find the right one now :)
[17:00] <greg-g> :)
[17:00] <rick_h__> /office/officer
[17:00] <greg-g> haha
[17:01] <rick_h__> it's like getting asked 'how tall are you'
[17:01] <rick_h__> I'm a 67
[17:01] <greg-g> I wish
[17:01] <greg-g> (6'7")
[17:10] <greg-g> snap-l: have fun with the ionic foot bath guy ;)
[17:13] <snap-l> Yeah, I'm not going too go too hard on him
[17:14] <snap-l> He got a nice foot massage. I can appreciate that.
[17:14] <greg-g> :)
[17:15] <snap-l> I have a big problem when folks get duped
[17:15] <snap-l> Like those fucking balance bracelets.
[17:18] <snap-l> If someone wants to spend $50+ on a plastic bracelet, I have no problems. If someone spends $50+ on a plastic bracelet because someone did a disingenuous leverage demonstration on them, then I have a problem.
[17:24] <PainBank> hmm sounds like someone needs to write a virus for their phone... you want my data... sure.... not my fault you clicked on that file...
[17:25] <snap-l> PainBank: Or overwrite it with impossible data
[17:25] <snap-l> "I see you broke the speed of light three times before breakfast"
[17:25] <snap-l> "All in a days work, citizen"
[17:26] <PainBank> haha
[17:44] <rick_h__> snap-l: think I'll make it tonight. Looks like it's going to be a bookie hack night
[17:44] <_stink_> hack on code or hack up lung?
[17:45] <rick_h__> lol, think we'll stick with code
[17:45] <rick_h__> boss is coming to help on FF extension
[17:45] <_stink_> dang
[17:45] <_stink_> gotta push my stuff
[17:45] <_stink_> my failures
[17:46] <snap-l> rick_h__: Awesome. Don't get me sick
[17:47] <greg-g> _stink_: just push it! don't pretty it up! :)
[17:50] <gamerchick02> http://www.linuxjournal.com/content/fabulous-virtual-window-manager-sees-first-release-five-years for all the people who like light window managers.
[17:56] <rick_h__> nice, but does it tile?
[17:56] <rick_h__> :P
[18:01] <gamerchick02> i don't know. just said that it was lightweight.
[18:02] <ColonelPanic001> wat
[18:02] <_stink_> ColonelPanic001: thank you for that
[18:03] <ColonelPanic001> ?
[18:04] <snap-l> fvwm does tiling much the same way that the System 7 Macintosh does tiling
[18:09] <_stink_> rick_h__: i'll be there tonight
[18:09] <gamerchick02> i'd like to be there. but i can't. is there a way i can help from my humble abode here in Saginaw?
[18:11] <_stink_> gamerchick02: https://github.com/mitechie/Bookie/issues?milestone=5&state=open :)
[18:11] <gamerchick02> :) thanks
[18:12] <snap-l> rick_h__: http://ubuntuone.com/p/nkt/
[18:12] <gamerchick02> oh, that's hilarious, snap-l
[18:12] <greg-g> gamerchick02: also how to get started http://bmark.us/started.html
[18:13] <gamerchick02> danke.
[18:13] <_stink_> duh, left that out, thanks greg-g.
[18:13] <greg-g> snap-l++
[18:13] <greg-g> _stink_: we're a team
[18:13] <_stink_> high-five!
[18:13] <greg-g> o/
[18:15]  * greg-g wishes he could relax on top of his computer
[18:16] <gamerchick02> greg-g, you have a laptop? i wouldn't lie on top of it... :-P
[18:17] <gamerchick02> wow, i just used the "move a window when looking at the workspaces" thing that ubuntu lets you do. not sure if that's an ubuntu or a gnome thing, but it's cool.
[18:34] <snap-l> One of the folks in an e-mail thread at work ins named "Sista"
[18:34] <snap-l> Having a hard time not thinking of "Sista Soljah"
[18:35] <snap-l> Bah, Souljah. :)
[18:35] <gamerchick02> heh
[18:36] <greg-g> gamerchick02: yeah, ok, I wish i could relax on top of a nice humming along supercomputer
[18:36] <gamerchick02> that sounds wonderful, actually. might give a little bit of a massage to your back.
[18:36] <gamerchick02> nice and warm too.
[18:39] <greg-g> yep :)
[18:39] <greg-g> though, the radiation might not be the best for me... uhhh, 'down there'
[18:41] <gamerchick02> good point. radiation shouldn't be good for anyone regardless.
[18:41] <_stink_> are computers radioactive?
[18:42]  * _stink_ dons his lead cup
[18:42] <ColonelPanic001> Radiation is good.
[18:42] <gamerchick02> some radiation is good. not all
[18:42] <ColonelPanic001> I'm just not fully awake until I've had my morning cup of alpha emitters.
[18:43] <gamerchick02> heh
[18:47] <gamerchick02> a German penguin has fallen in love with a boot.
[18:47]  * gamerchick02 is listening to Wait Wait Don't Tell Me.
[18:48] <_stink_> a u-boot?
[18:48] <gamerchick02> no, a Wellington
[18:48] <gamerchick02> the penguin's name? Bonaparte.
[18:48] <gamerchick02> not sure how relevant this is to our interests... but still. :)
[18:49] <gamerchick02> WWDTM is hilarious.
[18:49] <_stink_> it is.
[18:51] <greg-g> and then followed up by one of the lamest/slowest moving shows ever, Whadya Know
[18:51] <_stink_> OH MAN
[18:51] <_stink_> i'm glad i'm not the only one who thinks that
[18:51] <_stink_> i want to like Whadya Know
[18:51] <_stink_> but it's HORRIBLE
[18:52] <_stink_> i feel so bad for the people in that live audience
[18:52] <greg-g> yeah, I think I used to like it, when I was in elementary school. but that could also be because my grandpa always used to ask me "whatdya know?" and the correct reponse was "not much, you?" (its a wisconsin thing)
[18:52] <_stink_> heh
[19:01] <snap-l> OK, apparently I'm one of the few folks that likes Whaddya KNow
[19:01] <snap-l> granted, I'm not about to listen to a podcast of it, but it's at least entertaining
[19:01] <gamerchick02> Whaddya KNow? I haven't heard that
[19:02] <gamerchick02> i've never heard it before. must not play on my local NPR
[19:02] <_stink_> sorry snap-l.
[19:02] <gamerchick02> then again, i like A Prairie Home Companion, so...
[19:02] <snap-l> gah, now that I can't listen to
[19:03] <greg-g> I like Prairie Home every now and then
[19:03] <greg-g> Carrie hates it
[19:03] <gamerchick02> i like Garrison Keillor.
[19:03] <snap-l> I already know all of the Lutheran jokes
[19:03] <snap-l> I'm good, thank you.
[19:03] <gamerchick02> funny as shit, especially his monologue.
[19:04] <gamerchick02> brb, gonna see if my mom needs help
[19:04] <gamerchick02> ok
[19:05] <gamerchick02> i'm going to dextek. bbl. car issues.
[19:07] <greg-g> fun fun, good luck
[19:10] <PainBank> anyone tried using Panda3D?
[19:11] <rick_h__> sounds like a zoo exibit
[19:11] <PainBank> http://www.panda3d.org/
[19:11] <PainBank> usese python for the game engine scripting.
[19:15] <snap-l> PainBank: Does it support Linux? :)
[19:17] <PainBank> supposed to be cross platform.
[19:17] <snap-l> Yeah, just noticed that
[19:17] <PainBank> ah yup
[19:17] <PainBank> http://www.panda3d.org/download.php?sdk&version=1.7.2
[19:18] <PainBank> http://www.panda3d.org/download.php?platform=ubuntu&version=1.7.2&sdk
[19:46] <gamerchick02> thanks, i'm back. the cars are dropped off. hopefully Dex can fix mine.
[19:46] <ColonelPanic001> o.o
[19:46] <gamerchick02> it does sound like a zoo exhibit.
[20:05] <snap-l> Fuckin' hell
[20:06] <snap-l> http://www.miroguide.com/audio/14156
[20:06] <snap-l> http://www.miroguide.com/audio/14157
[20:06] <ColonelPanic001> wat
[20:06] <gamerchick02> nice!
[20:06] <snap-l> Only took them for fuckin' ever to approve them
[20:06] <ColonelPanic001> I have to catch up on that one
[20:06] <gamerchick02> oh
[20:06] <gamerchick02> didn't know
[20:06] <gamerchick02> but it's cool they're in there.
[20:06] <snap-l> Yeah, that makes me happy. :)
[20:14] <snap-l> I think tjagoda got his playbook
[20:16] <brousch> yes, he has been spamming the tubes
[20:16] <brousch> the FB tube anyways
[20:19] <gamerchick02> you'll be proud of me. i'm installing bookie.
[20:20] <snap-l> gamerchick02: yay!
[20:20] <gamerchick02> :)
[20:20] <greg-g> yay+1!
[20:21] <gamerchick02> i'm willing to give it a shot. i have a pinboard account (which i love) but i'd like to try this out too
[20:21] <greg-g> gamerchick02: just fyi, don't expect polish yet :)
[20:22] <gamerchick02> that's ok
[20:25] <gamerchick02> ok. i'm following the directions on the bookie website, but i get the following:
[20:25] <gamerchick02> gamerchick02@Sidle:~$ python boostrap.py bookie
[20:25] <gamerchick02> python: can't open file 'boostrap.py': [Errno 2] No such file or directory
[20:26] <gamerchick02> so, i need to create the directory somewhere. does this go in my /home?
[20:27] <Blazeix> gamerchick02: is that a typo? should be "bootstrap"
[20:27] <gamerchick02> really? ok
[20:27] <gamerchick02> ok
[20:28] <gamerchick02> seems to be working now
[20:29] <greg-g> boo!strap :)
[20:32] <gamerchick02> i'm getting an error about fab files
[20:32] <gamerchick02> says it can't find any
[20:32] <gamerchick02> (bookie)gamerchick02@Sidle:~$ fab new_install:gamerchick02bookie
[20:32] <gamerchick02> Fatal error: Couldn't find any fabfiles!
[20:32] <gamerchick02> Aborting.
[20:32] <_stink_> paste output of pwd?
[20:33] <gamerchick02> just run pwd?
[20:33] <_stink_> yeah
[20:33] <gamerchick02> /home/gamerchick02
[20:33] <_stink_> forgot this step:
[20:33] <_stink_> cd bookie/bookie/Bookie/
[20:33] <gamerchick02> (bookie)gamerchick02@Sidle:~$ fab new_install:gamerchick02bookie
[20:33] <gamerchick02> Fatal error: Couldn't find any fabfiles!
[20:33] <gamerchick02> Aborting.
[20:33] <gamerchick02> whoops
[20:34] <gamerchick02> (bookie)gamerchick02@Sidle:~$ cd bookie/bookie/Bookie
[20:34] <gamerchick02> bash: cd: bookie/bookie/Bookie: No such file or directory
[20:34] <gamerchick02> there we go.
[20:34] <_stink_> erm
[20:34] <gamerchick02> perhaps i should create that, eh?
[20:34] <gamerchick02> heh
[20:34] <_stink_> naw
[20:34] <_stink_> the boostrap should do that for you
[20:34] <_stink_> heh, boostrap, there i go.
[20:34] <brousch> booztrap?
[20:34] <brousch>  do those work?
[20:35] <_stink_> gamerchick02: whatever directory you were in when you ran 'python bootstrap.py bookie', there should be bookie/bookie/Bookie/
[20:35] <gamerchick02> just added it.
[20:35] <_stink_> then it'll be empty.
[20:36] <_stink_> bootstrap.py should create it and put a bunch of stuff in it.
[20:36] <gamerchick02> i had a /bookie folder
[20:36] <gamerchick02> but no /bookie/bookie/Bookie setup.
[20:36] <gamerchick02> and it's still saying it can't find fabfiles
[20:36] <_stink_> hmm.  i confess i am confused about how your directories are set up.
[20:36] <gamerchick02> i think i'll restart the process
[20:38] <Blazeix> gamerchick02:  try not manually creating any directories. the setup should automatically create everything for you
[20:38] <gamerchick02> thanks
[20:39] <gamerchick02> http://pastebin.com/huuV59qk
[20:39] <gamerchick02> that's what i have so far.
[20:39] <Blazeix> ah, you need to install git
[20:39] <Blazeix> I'm kind of surprised that wasn't a fatal error
[20:39] <gamerchick02> lol
[20:39] <gamerchick02> thanks
[20:45] <gamerchick02> thanks for your help, Blazeix. pardon my newbishness...
[20:45] <gamerchick02> and _stink_ too
[20:46] <_stink_> no.
[20:46] <_stink_> er
[20:46] <_stink_> hah
[20:46] <_stink_> np.
[20:46] <gamerchick02> :)
[20:55] <gamerchick02> http://pastebin.com/FCT5YnRY now why is it stopped here? Hrm.
[20:56] <snap-l> I swear, you'd think I'd learn by now that Java isn't meant to be developed from the command line
[20:56] <gamerchick02> how is it supposed to be developed?
[20:56] <_stink_> gamerchick02: just keep waiting
[20:56] <_stink_> that step takes a while
[20:57] <gamerchick02> oh. ok. i'll wait then. thanks, _stink_
[20:57] <snap-l> gamerchick02: It's more frustrating to try to develop without an IDE
[20:57] <gamerchick02> ok.
[21:04] <gamerchick02> hrm. perhaps i ought to boil some water for tea while this goes?
[21:05] <_stink_> hmm.  dunno.  i don't think it took quite that long last time i did it.
[21:05] <gamerchick02> it seems to have stopped.
[21:07] <Blazeix> that step took forever when I was doing it
[21:07] <gamerchick02> i'll wait a while longer and see if anything happens
[21:08] <Blazeix> it's best to just forget about it and do something else while it downloads/installs everything :)
[21:08] <gamerchick02> cool beans
[21:08] <Blazeix> rick_h__: any thoughts on making git's absence a fatal error? I have http://vpaste.net/DwgRR?bg=light&ft=git ready.
[21:09] <gamerchick02> heh. i guess i'm already helping even though i haven't done anything yet.
[21:09] <Blazeix> gamerchick02: yep :)
[21:11] <gamerchick02> HEY! cool. it's now doing something!
[21:15] <gamerchick02> ok. cd-ing into the directory worked.
[21:15] <gamerchick02> i ran the fab stuff and this is what i got: http://pastebin.com/q8qRb1ri
[21:18] <_stink_> gamerchick02: it looks like paramiko stuff isn't installed in your venv.
[21:18] <gamerchick02> venv?
[21:18] <gamerchick02> ok.
[21:18] <_stink_> virtualenv.
[21:19] <gamerchick02> so what do i have to look for and install?
[21:19] <_stink_> the thing you activate.
[21:19] <gamerchick02> oh
[21:19] <gamerchick02> ok
[21:19] <_stink_> i wonder if that's why the install took so long
[21:19] <_stink_> if pypi timed out
[21:19] <_stink_> can you paste ~/.pip/pip.log?
[21:19] <_stink_> i think that's what the filename is
[21:23] <gamerchick02> part 1: http://pastebin.com/enYz9bsM
[21:25] <gamerchick02> meh. trying ubuntu pastebin. i got a "too large error" before
[21:25] <gamerchick02> hre we go: http://paste.ubuntu.com/596687/
[21:27] <gamerchick02> and that'd be here. holy cow, i'm horrid at typing today
[21:29] <_stink_> huh, looks like it should've worked
[21:29] <_stink_> this might require rick_h__'s attention
[21:29] <gamerchick02> i'm gonna put a pot on for tea. bbiab
[21:34] <gamerchick02> back
[21:34] <greg-g> mmm, tea
[21:35] <gamerchick02> Earl Grey
[21:35] <greg-g> mmm, Earl Grey
[21:35] <gamerchick02> :)
[21:42] <rick_h__> sorry was afk at a bad time it looks like
[21:42] <rick_h__> catching up
[21:43] <rick_h__> gamerchick02: you need build-essentials
[21:43] <gamerchick02> build essentials. ok
[21:43] <rick_h__> at the top of the started page of docs it goes through some ubuntu packages it needs
[21:43] <rick_h__> build-essentials, some xml lib stuff, and the database-dev packages
[21:43] <gamerchick02> yeah, but i searched for it and i thought i had it
[21:43] <gamerchick02> ok
[21:44] <rick_h__> yea, so that error says it can't find gcc, to build the C-extension stuff
[21:44] <gamerchick02> ok
[21:44] <rick_h__> unfortunately it's one of those tradoffs...pure python == easy, but not fast
[21:44] <rick_h__> c extensions == much faster
[21:44] <gamerchick02> yeah
[21:45] <brousch> pure python ftw
[21:45] <gamerchick02> is it build-essential or build-essentials
[21:45] <gamerchick02> ?
[21:45] <rick_h__> sorry, not sure
[21:45] <rick_h__> try to auto complete it
[21:45] <rick_h__> sudo apt-get install build-ess<tab>
[21:45] <gamerchick02> i have a package that says build-essential
[21:45] <rick_h__> sure, that works
[21:46] <gamerchick02> well i have that, and had it before.
[21:46] <brousch> i always install build-essential and linux-headers-generic
[21:46] <rick_h__> hmm, then why was the error gcc not found
[21:46] <rick_h__> oh sorry, gcc failed with error
[21:46] <rick_h__> crap, sudo apt-get install python-dev
[21:46] <gamerchick02> and fingerprint-gui is messing with sudo, so i'm stuck with synaptic right this minute
[21:46] <rick_h__> I'll add that to the list
[21:46] <rick_h__> right, ok sorry
[21:47] <rick_h__> python-dev it looks like
[21:47] <gamerchick02> ok
[21:47] <gamerchick02> doing that now
[21:47] <rick_h__> k, added that one to the docs and updated them
[21:48] <rick_h__> Blazeix: that's probably the right way to go. But what kind of fool doesn't have git :P
[21:48] <gamerchick02> hey now.
[21:48] <rick_h__> :)
[21:48] <rick_h__> yea, as we get more people installing/setting up we find all the bits that we have in our system, but others don't
[21:49] <rick_h__> and try to get better docs about getting it going
[21:49] <rick_h__> I need to get things going to where I can do the hosted version
[21:49] <rick_h__> by the end of the year...at least that's what I keep telling myself is the goal
[21:51] <rick_h__> gamerchick02: once that's downloaded: http://paste.mitechie.com/show/295/
[21:52] <rick_h__> http://paste.mitechie.com/show/296/ sorry, take that back, forgot a step
[21:52] <gamerchick02> i'm trying from the beginning.
[21:52] <gamerchick02> it sounds dumb but that's the way i learn.
[21:52] <rick_h__> no, works for me
[21:53] <greg-g> and better to make sure the docs are right
[21:53] <rick_h__> eventually want to get the docs on that rock-solid.
[21:53] <rick_h__> greg-g: ++
[21:53] <greg-g> word
[21:53] <rick_h__> what sucks is I don't know how to handle making this easier
[21:53]  * greg-g has been using "word" a lot lately, like I'm back in the 1990s
[21:53] <rick_h__> otherwise I'll have to build python packages that are platform specific
[21:53] <rick_h__> greg-g: it's ok, we figure it's a hippie thing
[21:53] <rick_h__> hah
[21:53] <greg-g> :/ not fun
[21:53] <gamerchick02> how about a "step 0: make sure git and python-dev are installed"?
[21:54] <rick_h__> gamerchick02: yea, I missed that one when I updated the docs with packages
[21:54] <rick_h__> did you get the rest?
[21:54] <rick_h__> http://bmark.us/started.html
[21:54] <rick_h__> the libmysqlclient-dev, ...
[21:54] <gamerchick02> yes
[21:54] <rick_h__> awesome
[21:54] <gamerchick02> i'm redoing it from the beginning so i don't miss anything.
[21:54] <rick_h__> ok, have to get the boy from daycare, but will try to keep tabs on the phone irc if you run into anything else
[21:55] <gamerchick02> and catching up on world cafe
[21:55] <rick_h__> obviously sorry for you hitting the issues and thanks so much for sticking through them to help test/catch our missing bits
[21:55]  * rick_h__ sends virtual coffee up to saginaw
[21:55] <gamerchick02> :) thanks!
[21:55] <_stink_> good god
[21:56] <gamerchick02> i like helping out. doing this is no big deal.
[21:56] <_stink_> i have hosed my git repo twice in a row now
[21:56] <greg-g> I think I'll make a "these are the build-deps of bookie" section at the top of that which is just a list of the required packages, then a copy/pasteable line for Ubuntu 10.10 (others can supply the copy/pasteable lines for their own distros, *cough*arch*cough*)
[21:56] <gamerchick02> :)
[21:56] <greg-g> _stink_: :(
[21:56] <gamerchick02> you're talking to someone who runs the daily of gwibber.
[21:56] <rick_h__> greg-g: the big thing is that the version for the pgsql package depends on what version of ubuntu you have installed :(
[21:56] <rick_h__> but yea, coming up was a single "apt-get install xxxxxxxxx"
[21:57]  * greg-g nods
[21:57] <gamerchick02> that's nice, but a list is fine for me. i know enough to apt-get or search in synaptic
[21:57] <greg-g> I'll even get one for natty, since I have a vm for that installed
[21:57] <greg-g> gamerchick02: yeah, I just like copy/pasteable bits :) But, I can also not do that if it takes up too much space as we add more "supported" platforms
[21:58] <gamerchick02> yeah, but typing everything helps me learn though.
[21:58] <gamerchick02> i dunno.
[21:58] <greg-g> true
[21:58]  * greg-g shrugs
[21:58] <gamerchick02> though if i'm not careful, i'll make mistakes in my typing. i've been having a horrible typing day today
[21:58] <brousch> can you put it in a pre-install script?
[21:59] <brousch> detect ubuntu version, install the right stuff?
[21:59] <gamerchick02> you can write a script to do that?
[22:00] <brousch> have to run it with sudo, but sure, why not?
[22:00] <greg-g> well, hopefully this will be packaged for Ubuntu/distros one day, so we shouldn't do *too* much of that and instead let the packagers take care of that. Then, once it is packaged, we can just say "do an apt-get build-dep bookie" or whatever the command is
[22:00] <gamerchick02> what about a ppa on launchpad?
[22:01] <rick_h_droid> that ends up ubuntu specific and were trying to keep it just straight python
[22:01] <gamerchick02> oh. ok.
[22:01] <brousch> bah, ubuntu is the only linux that matters
[22:02] <gamerchick02> i was just saying that makes it easy for ubuntu users. myself included
[22:03] <rick_h_droid> yea, if someone can ppa it more power
[22:03] <rick_h_droid> but it's a bit harder, edpecially when you get to hodting the app
[22:03] <gamerchick02> eff yeah, i think it worked
[22:03] <rick_h_droid> hosting
[22:04] <gamerchick02> wow
[22:04] <gamerchick02> so... what do i have to do to keep this running? go through all those steps? or... something else?
[22:05] <rick_h_droid> heh, don't look there fow now
[22:05] <rick_h_droid> just use the paster command to run it to syart
[22:06] <gamerchick02> the poster command. do i have to keep the terminal running?
[22:08] <_stink_> rick_h_droid: ok, sent pull request for feature/ff_ext so folks can grab easily. (copy from #bookie)
[22:08] <_stink_> not sure where you're looking. :)
[22:08] <Blazeix> gamerchick02: http://bmark.us/hosting.html
[22:09] <gamerchick02> bbl
[22:09] <gamerchick02> dinner
[22:12] <rick_h_droid> gamerchick02 you can pass a --daemon flag to bavkground it
[22:27] <gamerchick02> thanks, rick_h_droid
[22:32] <rick_h_droid> gamerchick02 you get it all working ?
[22:32] <rick_h_droid> chrome extension as well?
[22:32] <gamerchick02> uh, i haven't installed the chrome extension yet
[22:33] <rick_h_droid> ah, ok
[22:33] <rick_h_droid> just checking
[22:36] <gamerchick02> what's the api key?
[22:37] <Blazeix> gamerchick02: you set it in the ini file
[22:37] <gamerchick02> oh
[22:37] <gamerchick02> ok
[22:37] <Blazeix> just so random people can't add stuff to your bookie install
[22:40] <gamerchick02> that's cool, and it makes sense.
[22:43] <gamerchick02> ok. i installed the chrome extension. and... i'm getting an error: could not find Bookie instance at http://127.0.0.1:6543/delapi
[22:44] <rick_h_23> ok, make sure you went into thr options and set the right pasdphrase
[22:45] <snap-l> Ugh, I feel terrible
[22:45] <snap-l> Just took a cat to the humane society
[22:45] <gamerchick02> ok
[22:45] <snap-l> No collar, no chip
[22:47] <Blazeix> oh, the chrome extension docs might be out of date
[22:47] <Blazeix> I think the url should just be http://127.0.0.1:6543
[22:47] <Blazeix> don't need /delapi after it
[22:49] <gamerchick02> thanks
[23:02] <rick_h_23> sorry, does it still say the delapi?
[23:04] <gamerchick02> it did on the setup site
[23:28] <Blazeix> yeah, I changed that a while back, and I didn't realize that docs for the chrome extension even existed :)
[23:28] <Blazeix> I'll add that to my "bookie things to finish tonight" list
[23:59] <rick_h_23> ha I've been trying to keep up with some docs