| LLStarks | hi, is there any reason why i'd be unable to access a tty using recovery mode or ctrl+alt+num? | 04:01 |
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| RAOF | Because something's messed up your VTs? | 04:02 |
| RAOF | Such as… da da da DAAAAM, nvidia? :) | 04:02 |
| RAOF | Bah. Stupid intel stupid dpms stupid waaaaaaraghrfl | 04:04 |
| ScottK | Nvidia is much simpler. "Meh. Nothing I can do." | 04:05 |
| LLStarks | raof, 945gm | 04:16 |
| LLStarks | i always get a blinking cursor | 04:16 |
| LLStarks | no VT | 04:16 |
| LLStarks | cleared 99% of my home's hidden folders and wiped / | 04:17 |
| LLStarks | no luck | 04:17 |
| RAOF | Maybe getty's not being spawned? | 04:17 |
| LLStarks | would a xorg log be helpful? | 04:17 |
| RAOF | Not really. | 04:22 |
| RAOF | Unless X isn't coming up properly. | 04:22 |
| LLStarks | x is loading fine, but there's no backend terminal i can use. | 04:23 |
| RAOF | The x log is unlikely to be very interesting. | 04:32 |
| LLStarks | raof, do you have any recommendations for triaging? | 04:36 |
| RAOF | I'd suggest that upstart is actually what you want to be debugging. | 04:36 |
| LLStarks | i have a bootchart, would that reflect getty's non-presence? | 04:37 |
| RAOF | Yes. | 04:38 |
| RAOF | Ok, so it looks like GM45 at least won't GPU hang on dpms events. Or, rather, the missing vblank issue will kill X before it triggers. | 06:43 |
| Sarvatt | RAOF: that was reported on ati too, but heck if I can find it | 07:36 |
| RAOF | What, missing vblanks? | 07:37 |
| Sarvatt | almost identical backtrace, the _CallCallbacks/DRI2WaitMSCComplete one? | 07:38 |
| Sarvatt | you were talking to the guy in #xorg-devel a few weeks ago actually, let me see if I can find the log | 07:39 |
| RAOF | Oh, that one. | 07:39 |
| RAOF | So, I know how to trigger *something* like that with reckless abandon on intel - have a client hang waiting for vblank, and then start another GL app :) | 07:40 |
| Sarvatt | RAOF: which bug are you talking about then? btw they dont really want intel_gpu_dump output anymore, /sys/kernel/debug/dri/0/i915_error_state has the good info | 07:41 |
| LLStarks | this really sucks. i have no access to a tty unless i chroot through a liveusb. is there anyway to Xorg -configure without a tty and shut-down x? | 07:55 |
| tjaalton | LLStarks: try putting 'GRUB_GFXPAYLOAD_LINUX=text' in /etc/default/grub | 08:03 |
| tjaalton | and run update-grub | 08:04 |
| LLStarks | thanks timo | 08:04 |
| tjaalton | if that works, follow the instructions here https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2010-December/032244.html | 08:05 |
| tjaalton | to file a bug | 08:05 |
| LLStarks | i'll see if this works | 08:06 |
| ripps | I added libbluray to the Natty builds of mplayer2 in my ppa. Too bad this won't allow it to play commercial bd's with aacs or bd+ | 08:25 |
| tjaalton | surprised? | 08:25 |
| ripps | well, it would require installing libaacs and having a valid key set for the disc being played. I haven't discovered an easy way of implementing this. Not to mention it would probably get my ppa shut down if it was discovered | 08:27 |
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| maxb | Is there a better way to toggle between radeon and fglrx than installing and uninstalling fglrx? | 13:24 |
| maxb | ooh, gl_conf alternative | 13:28 |
| * maxb tries it | 13:28 | |
| tseliot | maxb: and make sure you do "sudo ldconfig" and "sudo update-initramfs -u" after you change the alternative | 13:40 |
| maxb | Can anyone offer me any advice on writing a useful bug report for my mouse pointer disappearing when positioned close to one edge of my secondary monitor? | 14:32 |
| maxb | It does not occur if I switch from radeon to fglrx, but does that mean I should report it against the radeon driver, or could it be in mesa? (I believe fglrx replaces that too?) | 14:33 |
| maxb | tseliot: Ah, thanks. I failed to do so, but I will remember for next time :-) | 14:35 |
| maxb | I also had a catalyst control centre autogenerated xorg.conf I needed to nuke | 14:36 |
| tseliot | right, that too | 14:36 |
| LarsTorben | are here developers ?? | 16:10 |
| zniavre | good afternoon | 16:35 |
| zniavre | do i need to report that nvidia updated their 173 driver ? > ftp://download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/173.14.30/ | 16:36 |
| zniavre | but unity can't work with them | 16:36 |
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| tseliot | zniavre: there's no need to do that. I'll upload it today | 17:02 |
| bjsnider | znaii don't see why it wouldn't run compiz/unity | 17:03 |
| bjsnider | zniavre, don't see why it wouldn't run compiz/unity | 17:04 |
| Sarvatt | RAOF: YokoZar said he'd update ia32-libs tonight so 32 bit mesa will work again \o/ | 20:15 |
| zniavre | bjsnider, the fact is ... unity works with nouveau+dri-experimental but does not with the 173.14.30 (after gdm unity can't load the desktop its blinking ad-vitam) | 20:23 |
| bjsnider | zniavre, the driver hasn't been packaged yet | 20:51 |
| zniavre | bjsnider, they are | 21:11 |
| zniavre | https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/natty/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers-173/173.14.30-0ubuntu1 | 21:11 |
| bjsnider | does opengl work at all? | 21:12 |
| zniavre | yes | 21:12 |
| bjsnider | compiz won't start? | 21:12 |
| zniavre | compiz can work with gnome-classic session only | 21:13 |
| zniavre | not with unity after gdm the desktop is blinking and does not load unity-panel and launcher | 21:13 |
| zniavre | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/767613 | 21:15 |
| bjsnider | well i think you shuld report a unity bug | 21:15 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 767613 in unity (Ubuntu) "unity does not start with nvidia173.14.30 (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] | 21:15 |
| bjsnider | ok | 21:15 |
| zniavre | :o) | 21:15 |
| zniavre | i reported with driver from repos | 21:15 |
| bjsnider | there's no real reason to use the 173 if it can't run unity | 21:16 |
| bjsnider | unless you're a kde user i guess. there are still a few of them kicking around | 21:16 |
| zniavre | nouveau can run unity but that s all in fact the rest is a real apin to use (flash opengl apps etc...) | 21:16 |
| bjsnider | if you've got no unity with the 173 and have to run the classic desktop i think nouveau can probably do it better than the 173 | 21:17 |
| zniavre | i m not against you | 21:18 |
| Sarvatt | hmm, didn't someone report unity not working with nvidia-current on a opengl 2.1.2 era nvidia too? a 7500gt I think? | 21:18 |
| bjsnider | well, that would have to be a geforce pre-8k | 21:19 |
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