[00:36] gn8 === Thermi is now known as thermi === em is now known as emma [03:57] Hi, could someone help me install the "XMatrix" Screensaver in xubuntu 10.10? Thank you :) === `mOOse` is now known as horsey === m00se is now known as Guest56415 === `mOOse` is now known as m00se === emma is now known as em === pteague_laptop is now known as pteague [06:21] Hi here, may someone give me a good tool to edit .dat files ? I've tryed allegro-dev-tools but it return some error. [09:35] Hello ! [09:36] I need some help [09:46] @_@ [09:52] !ask| kuatoAR [09:52] kuatoAR: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) [09:54] Well, my problem is that i have an onboard sound card and a pci sound card, the onboard sound card is turned off from Bios, but ubuntu seems to ignore this and put this card in the sound options, i don't know wich one is the "good" card and wich controls to select, no audio at all [09:55] how can i know wich one is the onboard card and turn it off ? [09:56] you could probably check via lspci -k and blacklist and/or rmmod the driver responsible for onboard sound card [10:00] I've executed lspci -v with only this result related to audio http://pastebin.com/SNY57tGf [10:03] hahaha well [10:04] now its working, i've selected the Pulseaudio Mixed [10:04] *mixer [10:04] i don't understand the audio setup @_@ [10:07] Thanks for the help psycho_oreos ! see you later :P === thermi is now known as Thermi [15:36] Just trying out x natty. What software is managing the network? Maybe it doesn't appear if there isn't one..? [15:36] network manager [15:37] charlie-tca: i didn't see that in any menu iirc. Which one is it in? [15:37] It is not in a menu [15:37] it is automatic, as it has been for several releases already [15:38] charlie-tca: That's VERY confident ;) So i need to invoke it from the terminal (where i normally work) then... [15:38] Then I don't know how to do that. I use a desktop [15:39] Xubuntu is not a server edition, it is a gui version instead. If you are only using a terminal, that changes evert [15:39] everything you do. [15:39] networkmanager is controlled through panel plugin [15:40] if you expecially want, there is also cnetworkmanager for TUI [15:40] Sysi: Well i suppose i just need to know how to invoke it if things go wrong [15:41] Oh and of course, if it's made decisions for me i don't want (such as configuring ALL interfaces) [15:46] So can i simplify the question and ask: how do i bring up on screen the network management software (as is)? [15:53] g00se: alt+F2 nm-applet and it should appear on systray [16:13] Sysi: That didn't do anything unfortunately. When i did sudo nm-applet in the terminal it told me there was already one running [16:13] shouldn't be runned as root [16:14] then you already have it running, if you don't have it in panel you're propably missing "notification area" [16:16] Sysi: Tried it both ways. Shall scour the panel.Any idea what the default password is for user 'ubuntu' in live? [16:16] shouldn't be any [16:17] * g00se is trying to ssh into live [16:18] ssh-server isn't installed by default [16:18] i've never toyed much with live [16:19] No. I just installed it. Created a new password so i'm now in [18:02] Thanks folks [19:21] hello IRC [19:21] guessing this channel isn't as active as the regular ubuntu one? :) [19:22] that would be correct. Xubuntu has many fewer users than Ubuntu [19:24] well I'm a recent convert from Ubuntu to Xubuntu... so I figured I'd check out the channel [19:24] really excited for 11.04 [19:25] when is due the new edition? [19:25] April 28 [19:25] thx :) [19:26] You are welcome [19:26] We release at the same time as Ubuntu [19:26] yup--- looking forward to it [19:26] I hate unity [19:26] and Gnome 3 is just annoying [19:26] with xfce 4.8 ? [19:26] I tried out xfce 4.8 [19:26] the times [19:26] and I have never looked back :) [19:26] they are achanging [19:27] Arpad2: yes, with Xfce 4.8 [19:27] :) [19:27] xfece w/ Docky = godly [19:27] :) [19:27] soon more people will be using smartphones than computers, and the interfaces of computer will be based on the ones of smartphones [19:29] think there will be users that quit completely at that point [19:29] could be [19:29] I think those are the points of WebOS and Chrome OS [19:29] The day I have to use that stupid tiny screen is the day I quit. [19:33] charlie-tca: and do what? become a chief? [19:33] become a non-computer user [19:33] I don't even have a cellphone anymore [19:33] that will happen automatically [19:33] look at our parents [19:34] they use maybe 10% of the computer's possibilities [19:34] They never had computers. I will not be pushed to the phone screens. [19:34] we will be the same in a couple of years [19:34] tied to a computer at home [19:35] Most people only use a very small percentage of the possibilities, they don't have to be old for that [19:35] true that [19:35] I watch the twenty-somethings, using it for browsing the web and facebook. That is not hardly worth the cost [19:35] but the young ones use the ones that are considered most awesome at the moment [19:36] it's very difficult to program on android phone, even with a keyboard [19:36] Kids are forced to learn computers in school, then they go on to use them at work, with the work programs. [19:36] that still leaves very little use, overall. [19:36] blutooth is a godsend for programming on android :) [19:37] pctx: but you use normal computer for that [19:37] pctx: that's the point [19:37] I'm waiting for wearable interfaces anyways [19:37] well in a pinch :) [19:38] and programming with interpretative dance ;) [19:42] so [19:42] this might be a stupid question [19:42] but what is the best way to make shortcuts on the desktop in 11.04? [19:43] I would copy them from /usr/share/applications/ [19:43] if you mean launchers [19:43] drag and drop from the menu, software center, or Application finder [19:43] charlie-tca: drag and drop from menu doesn't work for me [19:44] In natty? [19:44] yes [19:44] I thought it was supposed to work [19:44] * charlie-tca had it fail too, but ... [19:44] I can't drag anythng from the menu [19:44] it's just not draggable [19:44] worksforme [19:44] what about from Application finder? [19:45] Sysi: in XUbuntu? [19:45] no idea, I don't have it installed [19:45] charlie-tca: yes, natty [19:45] Sysi: the right-click on the desktop applicatiosn menu? [19:45] Yes, it comes installed, under Accessories [19:45] ah yes [19:45] charlie-tca: first thing I remove [19:45] drag and drop does work [19:45] TheSheep: menu from panel [19:45] Sysi: second thing I remove :P [19:45] but thanks to TheSheep for that other tip [19:46] :) [19:46] i thought i have weird setup [19:46] TheSheep: Apparently, it works for others besides you and me [19:46] not that I have any icons on the desktop or ever wanted any [19:46] * charlie-tca doesn't have a menu, except on right click [19:46] charlie-tca: same [19:47] what's wrong with you guys :P (like i used it even daily) [19:47] btw, is there are way to choose what appears on the indicator plugin? [19:47] that envelope icon makes me think I have a message in gajim all the time [19:47] I upgraded to natty before it was available, and got used to not needing it. It is really a luxury to have that thing [19:48] oops, I don't have that either. I never installed indicator-applet [19:48] still use notification area here [19:48] charlie-tca: then how do you display the network manager icon? [19:48] It shows [19:48] I don't know how [19:48] it doesn't for me [19:48] but it is there [19:49] I use static IP addresses, though. Maybe that's why [19:51] it should be there but with wrong icon [19:51] Same Icon I see when I test the installs [19:51] TheSheep: you can remove indicator-messages [19:52] The up/down arrow? [20:18] Sysi: cool, thanks! === Thermi is now known as thermi === thermi is now known as Thermi [21:20] Hi all. Stupid question here. I'm just testing XUbuntu 11.04 Beta 2 on virtual machine. When Xubuntu 11.04 final is released on 28th, will there be upgrade to final possible, or I need reinstall ? Thanks [21:20] !final [21:20] If you installed a Alpha/Beta/RC version of Natty Narwhal and have been keeping it up to date, then you are already running the latest version of Natty. To make sure, type « sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade » in a console. [21:21] lol, many thanks [21:21] You are welcome [21:22] if it's not bothering you, I'll ask something I hope there's not '!command' for :) [21:22] the only reason I've used gnome so far was that it automatically remember SSH key password after logging in for whole session [21:22] It 's usually easier if there is one, since it saves trying to remember all of it [21:22] with XUbuntu, I found it's possible [21:23] but I need to enable 'enable gnome services on startup' [21:23] then when I try to log in to SSH remote machine, it asks for my private key password and it's all fine [21:23] no password prompts then for any ssh remote session [21:23] I'm just wonder, what 'gnome services at startup' means, what are side effects in performance or so [21:24] for sure it runs gnome-keyring or something [21:24] It lets it enable things that gnome uses, including the gnome-keyring [21:24] but what else ? Because I feel 'dirty' because of that, like running XFCE on top of Gnome [21:24] otherwise, you have to keep trying to enable it [21:24] it's not enabled by default [21:24] so I thought it's for some reason [21:25] Xfce is using some stuff from Gnome, anyway. [21:25] so I can't break anything ? :) [21:26] I can always break things, myself [21:26] but then, I am really good at breaking software [21:26] lol, OK, I'll keep it enabled just for the reason of having SSH key remembered :) thanks [21:27] I don't remember what else it does, but it also makes it so you don't have to type the wireless key every time, I think [21:27] aah, nice [21:28] sounds like a 2 good reasons then :) thanks a lot [21:28] At least it doesn't hurt anything. It just seems to make life simpler. [21:30] thanks a lot Charlie [21:30] good night [21:30] You are welcome [21:58] Hi, im trying to set up a keyboard shortcut to htop and its not working. Is there a way to specify that it open a terminal before running ?? [21:59] xfce4-terminal -x top [22:00] -x top or -x htop?? [22:01] tyvm that worked === `mOOse` is now known as m00se