[05:22] ping humphreybc [05:22] hi DBO [05:22] how's it? [05:22] so I am trying out volley brawl [05:22] (finally) [05:22] is there any way to up the initial speed? its god awfully slow [05:23] I think you can hack the code, there are some really simple variables [05:23] BUT the good news is [05:23] it's python? [05:23] Bart and Tommy are pushing out an update next week I think with hopefully an option to increase ball speed [05:23] It's lua I think [05:23] I didn't write it [05:23] But you can just find the .love file (opt/volleybrawl or something) [05:23] and then extract it [05:24] if I can modify it I can show you guys how to make it match in unity :) [05:24] I need to talk to Tommy/Bart but yeah we'd like an update out next week with "official" faster ball speed option, more characters, all that jazz [05:24] aha! [05:24] yes, do that [05:24] you can email Bart and Tommy - sigmoid@ohso.co [05:25] I'll be on IRC each day for the next week anyway [05:25] basically the wm-class is set to "love-0.7" [05:25] you need to set it to "volleybrawl" [05:26] ah [05:26] I'll tell bart now so he gets it when he wakes up [05:27] DBO: Thanks. You should play around with the code, you can do some pretty funny stuff by messing with gravity [05:27] still not sure how to extract a .love file [05:30] With flowers, surely? [05:30] Or perhaps a nice dinner? :) [05:30] you have to romance it first [05:32] oh I see [05:32] its just a zip file [05:39] oh hmmm [05:39] Love may not let them do that [05:39] nor does it seem to export any identifying information on the window [05:40] how brutally evil [05:42] lol [05:42] Bart is the lead developer for love too [05:42] So.. maybe he can actually fix the engine :P [05:42] DBO: are you working on that windows-spawning-in-the-dead-zone bug? [05:43] what bug? [05:43] clearly not then :D [05:43] yeah your easiest fix is to make love export the PID on teh window [05:43] and then have your wrapper script use exec [05:43] (thus preserving the launch pid) [05:44] kk [05:44] I need to talk to Bart anyway so I'll mention it to him [05:44] _NET_WM_PID is what you are after [05:45] brb [05:50] what a tease [06:10] wow [06:10] the register *hates* us [06:13] People read that rag? [07:25] good morning [07:26] morning didrocks === yofel_ is now known as yofel [07:29] didrocks, any bamf changes I make now are Oneiric, right? [07:30] hey DBO [07:31] DBO: well, if you want to maintain an "Natty" branchc in //, it's fine:) [07:31] DBO: if we still have important things, we can deal in a SRU [07:31] okay i want to make sweeping changes [07:31] its going to massively improve accuracy [07:31] oneiric then, branch an natty one :) [07:31] but I dont know if you will be happy to ship it [07:32] DBO: no sweeping change in natty, in oneiric, we have the time to fix them then ;) [07:32] DBO: that's basically why I added a lot of fixme or TODO: in unity (for instance, removing unused variable [07:33] maybe I can make a couple changes small enough to consider... [07:34] DBO: if you can do that to improve the accuracy, in can be shipped as a 0day SRU [07:35] sweeping accuracy improvements on the way! [07:35] I dont know why I never thought of this before [07:49] DBO: heh, a new matching way? [07:49] yeah [07:49] if I can remember how to turn a file full of null characters into a strv [07:57] DBO: you have a bamf merge proposal btw [07:57] in case you didn't see :) [07:57] looking [07:57] not sure I like the workaround though :/ [07:58] DBO: don't you receive the branch merge proposal btw in your inbox? [07:58] didrocks, the one from asac? [07:58] DBO: from chrisccoulson [07:58] * DBO checks [07:58] i dont see it [07:59] DBO: sorry, it's in unity [07:59] DBO: https://code.launchpad.net/~chrisccoulson/unity/lp767642/+merge/58569 [07:59] O_o [08:02] DBO: if you want, at UDS, I can show you how to automatically triage merge proposal to be in a special email folder :) [08:02] that would be handy [08:02] actually [08:02] I get them [08:03] in a special folder [08:03] which I seem to mentally ignore [08:03] go me [08:05] DBO: I'll upgrade you so that you don't ignore them anymore :p [08:05] DBO2.0 [08:06] good morning folks [08:06] salut didrocks [08:06] hey MacSlow ;) [08:14] good morning [08:14] im still stuck with nvidia 173 (legacy) driver , are they blacklisted ? [08:27] zniavre: you can run /usr/lib/nux/unity_support_test -p to see why unity isn't starting [08:35] <\sh> hmmm...strange...when I use ctrl+alt+numpad 1/3/etc. the window is moved to the screen edges, but when I move it from the position to another one, the window has not the same size as it was , it's grown automagically [08:36] <\sh> moins btw [08:39] Unity supported: yes [08:40] !paste [08:40] For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. [08:40] http://paste.ubuntu.com/596828/ [08:41] https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/767613 [08:41] Ubuntu bug 767613 in unity (Ubuntu) "unity does not start with nvidia173.14.30" [Undecided,New] [08:42] after gdm loggin unity can't start it blinks until i came back to gdm to choose gnome-classic [08:46] didrocks, i know you are french so to be technical, ça clignote ad-vitam sans demarer unity et sans crasher... (sorry for french i do not know to tell it in english) [08:47] zniavre: is this a recent regression? [08:47] from yesterday and the new nvidia 173.14.30 driver [08:48] with nouveau it works quite well (at least unity, the rest is a pain due to poor performances of nouveau ) [08:48] RAOF: around ? ^^ [08:49] to be polite i m not against nouveau but nvidia173 is a bit better at least for my old hardware [08:49] zniavre: ok, will track that with RAOF and tseliot [08:49] zniavre: agreed, and we only support nvidia right now, nouveau has some mem leaks [08:49] thats true [08:50] zniavre: ok, will ping the xorg people in charge of those, it's more a nvidia issue than unity [08:50] zniavre: oh for the record, does the ubuntu classic session work, [08:50] well i think you shuld report a unity bug [08:50] zniavre: the one using compiz (with nvidia) [08:51] yes gnome-classic works (with compiz ) [08:51] ok, but seems something regressed for unity (maybe FBO support) [08:51] all opengl softs works too [08:52] zniavre: can you post those info and link your pastebin content as well, please? [08:52] where ? [08:52] zniavre: in your bug report [08:54] heu ? (sorry french again) il n'y a pas tout deja ? unity test etc...? [08:55] zniavre: argh, t'as raison, c'est moi qui l'ai ajouté en plus dans le hook apport. fin de cycle, fatigue… ;) [08:55] je comprend ... [08:55] zniavre: j'ai souscris les bonnes personnes et je vais les pinguer aujourd'hui, merci pour l'info :) [08:56] im sorry to report stuf like that... [08:56] zniavre: don't be sorry, sorry for the regression :-) [08:56] :o) [08:57] i need to go (baby sitting) but im often around if one of you will needs more infos [08:57] thank you [08:57] zniavre: yeah, I think we will need a stacktrace [08:58] but let's see with the xorg guys first :) [09:12] I started using unity yesterday and I sometimes encounter a strange behaviour on alt-tab. Instead of bringing the new window to the top, the sidebar scrolls in and the icon corresponding to the selected app wiggles [09:12] pressing alt-tab again makes an other icon start moving as well, and I can only select the apps by clicking them [09:13] I'd be inclined to think this is not a feature but this being Unity I may be so wrong :D === daker_ is now known as daker [09:49] Kamstrup, you around? [10:02] zniavr: when you are back, can you make compiz crashing please and report a stacktrace? [10:07] didrocks how can i do that please? [10:08] zniavre: so, sudo rm /var/crash/*crash (to clean the current crashes) [10:08] zniavre: then follow https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Apport#How to enable apport [10:08] installing nvidia [10:08] and reboot/try to log in the unity session [10:09] zniavre: once it's "blinking" (meaning it crashes but try to respawn) [10:09] you can logout [10:09] then, you should have a file /var/crash/*compiz* [10:09] zniavre: ubuntu-bug -c /var/crash/*compiz* to report this bug (choose "full version") [10:11] ok let me try (already with nvidia driver i need hav to crash compiz so) [10:15] didrocks, 129mo is ok ? [10:15] zniavre: seems correct :) [10:15] im sending it [10:17] zniavre: ping me back with the bug # then, please [10:18] didrocks, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nux/+bug/768178 [10:18] Error: Launchpad(https://launchpad.net) bug 768178 not found [10:18] ho ? [10:18] zniavre: can you subscribe me to it? (it's private) [10:19] as 'didrocks' ? [10:19] zniavre: right :) [10:19] it looks ok [10:19] zniavre: can access to it, thanks! [10:20] retracing to get all needed info is on the way [10:21] im not sure to understand the last sentence but im trusting you :o) [10:21] zniavre: what arch is it? [10:22] zniavre: don't mind, it's i386 :) [10:28] didrocks, yes 32bits === API is now known as apinheiro [11:20] didrocks: A new nvidia binary driver was uploaded recently; I think it's the first 173 driver that we've had which actually works against our X server. [11:20] RAOF: loicm is on it, nux is failing [11:22] Hurray for getting a driver a week before release! [11:22] for maverick it was 4 days before ... :o) [11:25] RAOF, s/a week before release/on final freeze day/ [11:25] :) [11:39] DBO: Oh, I think I've got a lead on the hang-on-vblank kernel problem. We'll see once these kernels build. Just a FYI. === MacSlow is now known as MacSlow|lunch === MacSlow|lunch is now known as MacSlow === apinheiro is now known as apinheiro_lunch [13:12] tedg: can I introduce you to who's just choiced the channel and is the author of clipit, a Clipboard manager [13:12] tedg: from bug #702316 it appears that there are some problems with the libindicate->notifcation area fallback [13:12] Launchpad bug 702316 in libindicate (Ubuntu) "Generic Libindicate fallback support breaks applications (such as clipit) on non-Unity WMs/DEs" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/702316 [13:13] tedg: from running applications under a WM/Desktop Environment with libindicate support [13:14] evaluate: I think tedg is on US-time, we may have to wait a couple of hours [13:14] evalutate: in the mean-time would be able to put add/update your long explanation from #ubuntu-devel and add it to the bug report itself; this would stop it getting lost [13:40] sladen, will do so in a couple of minutes. [13:46] Hey stefano-palazzo [13:54] hi davidcalle :) [13:56] stefano-palazzo, https://code.launchpad.net/~davidc3/unity-books-lens/trunk # zeitgeist stuff in trunk : ) [13:56] nice! I'll check it out right now [13:57] I'm pushing right now some comments to the code. === m_conley_away is now known as m_conley [14:17] sladen, I looked at the bugreport again and from what I can tell you added all the relevant information already. [14:18] What exactly would you want me to add to it? [14:20] morning tedg [14:20] < sladen> tedg: can I introduce you to who's just choiced the channel and is the author of clipit, a Clipboard manager [14:21] < sladen> tedg: from bug #702316 it appears that there are some problems with the libindicate->notifcation area fallback [14:21] Launchpad bug 702316 in libindicate (Ubuntu) "Generic Libindicate fallback support breaks applications (such as clipit) on non-Unity WMs/DEs" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/702316 [14:21] < sladen> tedg: from running applications under a WM/Desktop Environment with libindicate support [14:23] sladen, tedg, I'm sorry, but I have to go now. Could you please mail me or send me a message through launchpad (if that's possible) if there is any more information that I should provide? [14:23] sladen, evaluate, I put instructions on getting a backtrace [14:24] tedg, ok, I will update the bug with that info when I'm back. Thanks for now! === apinheiro_lunch is now known as apinheiro [15:21] cdbs, om26er are you guys working on the new queue at all? it really hasn't seemed to be going down. i've been otherwise occupied with some qa stuff and it's at 212 bugs. that's way higher than i should be [15:21] lamalex: I did a lot of squashing today [15:22] and yesterday as well [15:22] in the new queue? [15:22] lamalex: I'll speed up more tomorrow [15:22] lamalex: yes [15:22] lamalex, I did not, I just woke and was looking in there [15:22] and you set the statuses? [15:22] like, the source package and the upstream package? [15:22] lamalex: I was focusing more on Incomplete bugs and dups [15:22] ok [15:23] i'll try and get the new in order today [15:23] keep going on the incompletes and dups [15:23] om26er, can you work on the new queue with me? [15:23] between the two of us we should be able to knock it down quite a bit before the weekend [15:23] lamalex: As for the statuses, I didn't set the status to Incomplete or Confirmed on most of them because [15:24] lamalex: I commented on old NEW bugs whether he could reproduce in the latest versions [15:24] lamalex, yes defintely [15:24] om26er, cdbs so when you touch a bug, basically it should always leave the new queue [15:24] lamalex: and many of them, such as bug #765447 apart from tons others were marked by the reporter themselves to be fixed [15:24] i want that number to always be going down [15:24] Launchpad bug 765447 in unity (Ubuntu) "compiz crashed with SIGSEGV in LauncherIcon::SetQuirk()" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/765447 [15:25] so if you ask someone if it's stilll valid, mark it incomplete until they answer [15:25] om26er: hey, btw, do you want today's mismatch report? [15:25] lamalex: okay, I'll take more care about that [15:25] didrocks, that too ;) [15:25] thanks [15:25] om26er: here it is :) http://paste.ubuntu.com/596975/ [15:25] My day ends in a few minutes, so more up tomorrow [15:25] didrocks, we should get your script to just shoot of an email to the unity-bugs team ;) [15:26] lamalex: hum, are you following this bugmail ML? I've the feeling that NEW bugs aren't handled [15:26] didrocks, that's what we're talking about right now [15:26] (especially important ones, that's why I'm scanning this quickly every morning) [15:26] and seb128 too [15:27] om26er and i are going to devastate the new queue backlog that's formed today [15:27] and tomorrow [15:27] we got it [15:27] nice! :-) [15:27] lamalex: where is your hammer? [15:28] * lamalex shows didrocks thorr's hammer [15:28] heh :-) [15:29] 16:25:03 lamalex | so if you ask someone if it's stilll valid, mark it incomplete until they answer [15:30] lamalex: ensure then you are looking at those bugs again, because some people went upset on bugs you set as incomplete and they provided the info. Then no feedback :( [15:31] lamalex, oh, and also don't just ask if they still happen or bugs you could easily test on your install, that tend to annoy users as well [15:32] lamalex: not me? [15:32] :) [15:41] I think that we could use a 4th window button that when hovered over, makes the menu appear in the window decoration, that way people that want more screen-estate stay happy and those that want a menu in the window do too. [15:44] cdbs: I'm certain https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/761267 is a dup [15:44] Ubuntu bug 761267 in unity (Ubuntu) "super key shortcuts don't take effect on places tiles until super key is released" [Low,Confirmed] [15:44] even a seb128's bug IIRC :) [15:45] didrocks: I didn't find a master bug after searching for it [15:45] * cdbs searches again, this time with lesser keywords [15:48] cdbs: ahah bug #747323 ! [15:48] Launchpad bug 747323 in unity (Ubuntu) "should not wait the key unpress to display lenses" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/747323 [15:49] :o [15:49] * cdbs marks [15:49] cdbs: edited the title :) [15:49] bug #747323 [15:49] ubot5: ? [15:50] "should not wait the key unpress to display lenses / super wait to be released to show dash/places " [15:50] * vish tickles ubot5 and bug #747323 [15:50] Launchpad bug 747323 in unity (Ubuntu) "should not wait the key unpress to display lenses / super wait to be released to show dash/places" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/747323 [15:50] should be easier to find now :) [15:50] vish: not fair! :p [15:50] didrocks: I'm also sure bug #766127 is a dupe of something, can't find that bug now :( blame laptop changeover [15:50] Launchpad bug 766127 in unity (Ubuntu) "When text is typed in the Dash Search - "loose focus" with mouse is only semi functional" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/766127 [15:50] :D [15:50] seb should fix his connection :) [15:51] cdbs: oh really? didn't see a dup for that one [15:51] didrocks: About clicking on the area where the dash formerly existed before resizing.. remember? [15:51] I'll ask the reporter on whether he meant in that area or not [15:52] cdbs: oh, you're right! [15:55] lamalex, crashers related to nouveau experimental are invalid(if they specifically look live driver issues)? [15:55] bug 767322 [15:55] Launchpad bug 767322 in nux (Ubuntu) "unity_support_test crashed with SIGSEGV in nouveau_reloc_emit()" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/767322 [15:55] what does one file bugs against when the global menu isn't showing up menus for a specific application?? [15:57] apw, indicator-appmenu might be a good place, I believe [15:57] om26er, ok thanks [16:02] bug #768392 [16:02] Launchpad bug 768392 in indicator-appmenu (Ubuntu) "global menu does not always have menus for an application" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/768392 [16:03] apw, you could be seeing bug 754581 [16:03] Launchpad bug 754581 in bamf (Ubuntu) "Some apps don't integrate to appmenu after having their windows closed (bamf side)" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/754581 [16:03] is anyone else seeing windows un-minimise the wrong height, such that the input areas are in the right place, but the app is rendered about the height of the menu bar too low [16:03] such that to click on something yopu have to miss high [16:04] apw: we were looking for reproducible testcase of this. [16:05] smspillaz: you remember that I mentionned it? ^^ [16:05] apw, something like this https://launchpadlibrarian.net/69486382/Capture.png maybe? [16:05] om26er, yeah exactly like that. [16:05] Hmm, the maximize and minimize animations aren't each other's inverse, this kinda bugs me. [16:05] What should I file the bug against? [16:05] didrocks, for me i seem to occur most often to chromium, when it is unminimised by something other than me [16:05] apw: talk about it to smspillaz once he's around :) [16:06] ubuntu-bug for example, or opening a link in something like xchat [16:06] apw: I got it a lot, but we had a patch in compiz which was supposed to fix it (and it did for me at least). I only saw that once since [16:06] * apw suspects we need to be issued with aspestos shorts for uds [16:07] apw: tried that 10 times with chromium, of course, didn't happen :/ [16:07] didrocks, did you write unity-preferences? [16:07] om26er: I patched it, njpatel wrote it, why? [16:07] didrocks, funny happend opening the link to show the issue! [16:07] om26er, which bug is that screen shot from [16:08] apw bug 760436 [16:08] Launchpad bug 760436 in unity (Ubuntu) "Window display shifted" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/760436 [16:08] om26er: don't tell me there is bug in the 50 lines :p [16:08] didrocks, there is a crash ;) [16:08] noooooooooooooooooooooo [16:08] :-) [16:08] om26er: link? ;) [16:09] didrocks, bug 767140 [16:09] Launchpad bug 767140 in unity (Ubuntu) "unity-preferences crashed with SIGABRT in g_object_newv()" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/767140 [16:12] didrocks: yeah, I've got this one on the radar [16:12] didrocks: I know how to reproduce it, just not sure why it happens yet [16:12] smspillaz: oh ok, is there a bug milestone for the SRU? [16:12] smspillaz: unity 3.10.12? [16:12] 3.8.12* [16:13] didrocks: don't know [16:13] smspillaz: can you ensure it's the case please? [16:13] ok, I'll do that asap [16:15] lamalex, om26er: My day ends today, will be back tomorrow, bye! [16:15] my day begins much before it begins for you both :) [16:15] cdbs, bye ;) [16:15] bye [16:15] bye cdbs [16:15] goodnight [16:16] have a good weekend [16:16] didrocks, what do you think about my question on if the crash caused by experimental nouveau(libgl1-mesa-dri-experiment) should be invalid? bug 767322 [16:16] Launchpad bug 767322 in nux (Ubuntu) "unity_support_test crashed with SIGSEGV in nouveau_reloc_emit()" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/767322 [16:16] lamalex: I'm working on weekends [16:16] :) [16:17] lamalex: non-stop since I came back from that trip [16:18] om26er: one sec (just looked at the unity-preferences crash, seems a glib/gvariant crash, but will give a deeper look later) [16:19] om26er: ok, on nouveau, I would say "we don't support nouveau as the testing and developping effort is really limited right now. However, we welcome all contribution to debug and fix this issue. Marking as triaged but prority low" [16:19] om26er: does it sound good to you? [16:19] (basically the same seem than the "no icon over launcher" with nouveau) [16:20] didrocks, wfm, should I add 'mesa' to affects? [16:20] cdbs, oh ok [16:20] well cool [16:20] om26er: yes please ;) [16:21] didrocks, thx [16:21] yw [16:23] davidcalle, are you around? [16:23] stefano-palazzo, yes [16:23] davidcalle, so, I've written a little function that suggest tags you might be interested in, even without a search query (based on running apps) [16:23] Now, when do I run that function? [16:24] Is there a callback that runs when you open up the lens? [16:24] kenvandine, Is there a way to recover gwibber posts that gwibber didn't actually post? [16:24] no [16:24] kenvandine, Like a log file or something? [16:25] I saw in your video that results are displayed immediately; in what method do you add this stuff to the model? [16:25] kenvandine, :-( [16:25] tedg, i hope to be able to do that next cycle [16:25] if i get the time for the refactoring [16:25] :) [16:25] It's the "active" signal (kenvandine uses it too) look at "on_active_change". [16:25] * tedg will do no releases to help kenvandine [16:25] davidcalle, thanks, I'll look into it :) [16:25] hehe... come to the session at UDS :) [16:26] stefano-palazzo, but it's buggy. I've seen in sent during slow or long searches. [16:27] stefano-palazzo, that's why I add a lot of conditions for it to send the call. Still some bugs though. [16:28] kenvandine: about the python lenses not autostarted, where did your debugging stopped? [16:32] added some g_debug lines in unity [16:32] to make sure those assertions are really coming from the sections model [16:32] and to see when they get called [16:33] hum… [16:33] kenvandine: so, just to ensure [16:33] kenvandine: fresh login [16:33] you hover the place icon, click on it [16:33] there is no search result coming, right? [16:33] right [16:33] if you then, closing it and click on it again [16:33] no sections populate [16:33] do they come? [16:33] and no sections in the quicklist [16:33] no [16:33] never any results [16:33] but [16:33] ok, so not a race while connecting then [16:34] logging from my lens shows that it is calling all the right functions [16:34] and getting results [16:34] hum… [16:34] it's just unity isn't rendering them [16:34] ok, can you try something? [16:34] sure [16:34] like, fresh login [16:34] hover the icon [16:34] (not click on it) [16:34] wait for several seconds [16:34] then, click on it and look if the content is there [16:35] i did that [16:35] didn't work [16:35] ok, so not a race at all [16:35] i think it is a race [16:35] weird that reverting the commit for lazy load worked for you [16:35] it tries to get the sections [16:35] and it gets something that isn't a dee model [16:35] and it never tries again [16:35] that shouldn't happen if you hover, wait, cick [16:36] click* [16:36] as basically, the code is equivalent to "connect at startup" [16:36] I don't see the difference with the vala lense either :/ [16:36] really puzzling, we need kamstrup for sure then :( === bregma is now known as bregma|lunch [16:37] the hover produces that assertion too [16:37] not just clicking it [16:37] why we didn't get that race when connecting at startup then? :/ [16:38] hum hum, this reminds me my french fix which was refrenched fixed… [16:38] hum no in fact [16:38] kenvandine: the daemon are started, isn't it? [16:38] daemons* [16:38] yes [16:38]