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dcordes19:15 < ogra_> archive is messed up due to the last minute fixes00:40
dcordes19:15 < ogra_> that will settle until tomorrow00:40
dcordesis this discussion about natty netbook images ?00:40
Nekohey guys, anyone know off-hand what spec the builders are?00:45
Nekotrying to figure if it took 2 hours to build something on a buildd for the main repo, how long it'd take on an MX53....00:48
GrueMasterdcordes: yes.00:56
GrueMasterNeko: The buildds are MX51 mostly.00:57
GrueMasterBut the new systems will be omap4.00:57
dcordesGrueMaster: I'm looking to test latest natty omap4 build on my phone. Is it a good moment to download an image ?00:58
GrueMasterLatest daily is 20110418.  Should have a new one later tonight assuming the pool churn has settled.00:59
dcordesPool churn :) ?00:59
GrueMasterWon't know for a couple of hours.00:59
dcordesI will check back after CET night nap. Do you have a URI for me ?01:00
Nekohmm so.. almost exactly the same time to build on an Efika MX then.. well shit, 2 hours still isn't bad.. I have an hour to go ;)01:00
GrueMasterWhenever a package is updated in the pool and it has dependencies that rebuild, the image build will die due to dependency failure.01:00
dcordesAh seems familiar from the openembedded workflow.01:00
GrueMasterdcordes: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-netbook/daily-preinstalled/01:01
Nekois there some magic documentation on "how to make a buildd for ubuntu"?01:01
NekoI mean apart from the debian stuff01:01
GrueMasterNot sure.  I have just installed pbuilder and all of its dependencies.01:01
GrueMasterI would recommend a minimal image to begin with.01:02
Nekowell dropping a minimal image and pbuilder on a system is the easy bit :]01:02
GrueMasterYep.01:02
Nekohang on01:02
dcordesGrueMaster: Thanks!01:02
dcordesbbl01:02
GrueMasterIf you are looking for an automated buildd environment, I can't help.01:03
Nekowell my main point of curiosity is, how on earth do I submit jobs, because I can't find that bit..01:03
Nekoin theory it should just magically use the chroot, pull in a ton of packages from the archive and go build it and report back, right?01:04
Nekobut where do I "click to start"? :D01:04
GrueMasterAre you looking to create your own buildd automated environment or just to rebuild a few packages?01:04
Nekowhere a few amounts to about 50 which may take a few days, yes01:05
GrueMasterIf the latter, pbuilder will do it quite nicely.01:05
NekoI'm just at the point that I don't want to build them by hand01:05
GrueMasterFirst, use it to generate a chroot tarball.  Then you can build packages.01:06
Nekoconsider that done01:06
Nekoas if I have like 20 boxes here all networked and happy and "ready"01:07
GrueMasterFor the distributed build environment, I believe we use soyuz (part of launchpad).01:07
GrueMasterAnd I don't know how it works.01:08
Nekoso how does debian do it01:08
GrueMasterNot sure.  I just do QA and sometimes I do FTBFS debugging.01:08
GrueMasterYou might look at apt-cache search buildd.  There are tools in the pool for building a build environment.01:13
GrueMasterNot sure if it scales to multiple systems.01:13
GrueMasterHmm. Buildbot may be what you are looking for.01:17
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ogra_Neko, the ubuntu buildds use launchpad and soyuz, pull their source and find how to set them up and you have ubuntu buildds ;)10:24
ppisati_ogra_: does your panda board reset when you press the reset button? mine seems to die and the only way to revive it is to pull the power plug10:28
ogra_mine resets fine10:29
ppisati_doh10:29
ppisati_Texas Instruments X-Loader 1.4.4ss (Mar 18 2011 - 14:14:59)10:29
ppisati_U-Boot 2011.03-rc1 (Feb 09 2011 - 01:46:42)10:29
ppisati_yours?10:29
ogra_ppisati_, whatever is in the archive10:42
ppisati_ogra_: uhm, tried older X-loader/u-boot and actually didn't change10:51
ogra_right10:53
alf_Hi all! I am getting a segfault while running ldconfig on panda. Is this something known?10:57
alf_The interesting thing is that it happens only if I run it when I am root... with sudo it runs fine.10:57
alf_Hmm, I just rebooted after a dist-upgrade and I am getting "(stk) :line disc installation timed out" and some other messages and the board is not booting :/11:04
alf_it is booting after all but only to a console, no X...11:12
ogra_sounds like a corrupted Sd or some such11:16
alf_ogra_: I think I am done with sd cards... Does the ubuntu kernel support booting the rootfs over nfs?11:23
ogra_it should11:23
ogra_needs an initrd though, since i think the NIC driver is modular11:24
ppisati_ok, kexec is broken on ti-omap4 too11:50
* ogra_ wouldnt have expected any differently11:50
ppisati_fine, i have my new toy :)11:51
ppisati_ah!12:00
ppisati_if i press the reset button, the board goes into this "dead state"12:00
ppisati_then if i take out and put in again the sd card12:00
ppisati_it restarts normally12:00
ppisati_weird12:01
alf_ogra_: I am going to follow the instructions in https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DisklessUbuntuHowto to get rootfs over nfs for panda? Any better ideas?12:16
ogra_alf_, looks a bit outdated, and indeed you need kernel and initrd locally (tftp wont work for either)12:17
alf_ogra_: yes, I will keep those on the sdcard first partition12:18
ogra_(that doc is like 3 or 4 releases old ... or even older)12:18
alf_ogra_: well, I only really care about the initramfs part. Is this still valid?12:20
ogra_you only need BOOT=nfs ... but you can set that as boot=nfs on the kernel cmdline12:20
ogra_no need to re-roll your initrd for that12:20
ogra_and you need to set nfsroot= to point to your server and rootfs path (also on cdmline)12:21
ogra_boot=nfs root=/dev/nfs nfsroot=<serverip>:<path>12:22
ogra_that should work12:22
ogra_not sure the root= is actually needed though, boot=nfs should take care12:22
alf_ogra_: ok, so the plan is (please correct me) 1. Flash new ubuntu image 2. Boot, get past resizing and first config 3. copy rootfs to nfs export dir 4. fiddle with kernel params in boot.scr to load from nfs12:25
ogra_sound right12:26
ogra_at least thats how i would do it12:26
alf_ogra_: great, thanks! I will try it and keep you posted.12:27
ogra_great, i have a thin client spec for next release, i'll treat your work as first test for that *g*12:28
alf_ogra_: excellent, I am going to be the lab rat :D12:28
ndecalf_: http://omappedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu_on_OMAP_FAQ#I_want_to_install_Ubuntu_on_external_USB_hard_disk_instead_of_sluggish_SD_card that might help.12:38
alf_ndec: thanks!12:39
ndecalf_: that what I use, and it's really a good setup. very fast, very reliable so far. you need to keep the SD in the slot because it is still the boot partition. flash-kernel works fine too12:40
alf_ndec: do you think it is going to be faster than nfs?12:41
ogra_its at least a good stress test for your usb controller :)12:41
ogra_(and likely faster, yes)12:42
ndecalf_: i don't really know.12:42
ogra_i guess it depends on your network12:43
alf_ogra_: direct connection from panda to desktop ;)12:44
aruni'll have to give the usb drive a shot.13:15
spikebikeI wonder if the panda board will work with a sdhc uhs-i card13:25
alf_ogra_: I am getting this http://paste.ubuntu.com/596949/ . Any ideas? (/etc/fstab is: http://paste.ubuntu.com/596952/)14:30
ogra_i dont see a rootpath14:32
ogra_try specifying rootserver and rootpath separately instead of nfsroot14:32
ogra_also did you try to ping the board from the PC once it is at that point, to make sure the net connection works ?14:33
alf_ogra_: so, I added no_root_squash to the NFS export options and at least I am not getting any errors now. Unfortunately it is still gets stuck after "Begin: Running /scripts/init-bottom ... done"15:26
alf_ogra_: an wireshark dump shows that it can access the nfs fine, but just stops after a while15:27
ogra_strange15:35
alf_ogra_: I have set eth0 and wlan0 to manual in /etc/network/interfaces in case network-manager messes things up but I don't think it gets that far15:36
Nekoogra, reverse engineering launchpad vs. reading documentation? no thanks15:44
NekoI put the rookie on it instead..15:44
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ppisati_GrueMaster: bugs https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-ti-omap4/+bug/75896117:14
ubot2Launchpad bug 758961 in linux-ti-omap4 "WARNING: at /build/buildd/linux-ti-omap4-2.6.38/drivers/tty/tty_mutex.c:31 tty_lock 0x30/0x4c()" [Medium,New]17:14
ppisati_GrueMaster: what did you do to get this one?17:14
GrueMasterNothing.  Just booted.17:20
GrueMasterHaven't seen it since then though.17:20
GrueMasterYou do see my comment on the bug, right?17:21
ppisati_GrueMaster: there's only #3 as comment17:28
ppisati_GrueMaster: anyway, if there's no way to reproduce it17:28
ppisati_GrueMaster: better if i look for something else17:28
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iceberg303'm having an issue. I am using the image "ubuntu-netbook-10.10-preinstalled-netbook-armel+omap4.img.gz" After I do an update it gets low, then when I install the ti omap4 extensions when I click my login it locks up before I can type a password20:18
FlipoHello, on a pandaboard I'm able to get audio through HDMI but not the normal audio jacks, is there  a workaround ? Thanks20:26
GrueMasterFlipo: Which image are you using?20:28
GrueMasterFixes for audio went in this week and will be in 11.04 final.20:28
FlipoGrueMaster: I'm using the suggested build for the pandaboard20:29
GrueMastericeberg303: What size SD card are you using?20:29
iceberg303GrueMaster: is there a non netbook build of 10.10 and 11.4 for the omap4 pandaboard?20:29
iceberg303it's a sandisk extreemIII20:29
iceberg3038GB20:29
iceberg303I also have a patriot20:29
GrueMasterFor 10.10 there is only the netbook image.  For 11.04 we have introduced a headless minimal image.20:29
iceberg3038G as well20:29
FlipoI might just wait for that then20:30
GrueMasterFlipo: I have no idea what the suggested image is that you are referring to.  Either 10.10 (Maverick) or 11.04 (natty).20:31
FlipoGrueMaster: the suggested image is 10.10 netbook edition20:31
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GrueMasterIf 10.10, you should be able to get audio working with updated packages.20:31
Flipo(site seems down right now)20:31
FlipoI have it working fine over hdmi but the built-in soundcard doesn't seem to work20:32
GrueMasterI think the audio works in the updated kernel & alsa-utils packages.20:33
GrueMasterThey didn't make the 10.10 release.20:33
Flipoif I do a normal system update via gui will I get the updated kernel or do I need to do further steps ?20:35
GrueMasterI think you should be able to get all the updates through update-manager.20:46
rsalvetiAmaranth: are you planning to merge the gles support upstream? or did you send the merge proposal already?21:27
rsalvetijust to understand better the current status of the port21:27
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sewardjis it possible to run the 11.04 beta on QEMU ?23:02
sewardjas a guest, on qemu-system-arm, i mean23:02

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