[06:18] <stjohnmedrano> happy easter everyone...
[07:28] <yofel_> hm, I'm just reviewing RedSingularity BC application, and was wondering about the recent changes to the importance guidelines. Would something like bug 734026 be considered Medium now?
[07:28] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 734026 in update-manager (Ubuntu) "Confusing terminology when performing update/upgrade. (affects: 2) (heat: 107)" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/734026
[07:29] <yofel> Low was right back then of course
[07:32] <yofel> and do we have the definition of a "core" application documented somewhere? I didn't find anything in the wiki
[07:43] <abhinav-> hey guys I got the latest iso of natty using testdrive last night, I used startup disk creator to create a live usb. But the live disk seems to be having some issues. First of all I expected to get an option to upgrade from 10.10 to 11.04 (http://www.webupd8.org/2011/04/how-to-upgrade-to-ubuntu-1104-natty.html), but it wasn't there at all
[07:44] <abhinav->  instead on clicking install now, it directly switched to the "Timezone" selection dialog box, and then keyboard layout and so on,
[07:44] <abhinav->  at the end, I at least expected it to ask me about the partitions , but instead, it started the slideshow
[07:45] <abhinav->  and that's it, the slideshow was going on, but nothing was happening
[07:45] <abhinav->  I eventually closed the slideshow window, and it displayed a messagebox that the installation is complete, and I can restart but nothing was installed
[07:47] <yofel> abhinav-: try to follow that installation process again till the end, get a wired connection, press ctrl+alt+f2 to get to a tty and file a bug against ubiquity
[07:48] <abhinav-> yofel: ok, thanks. screenshots would be helpful ?
[07:48] <yofel> maybe, but the logs are more important
[07:49] <abhinav-> ok. I am on it
[07:49] <yofel> unless you have a corrupted window leave the screenshots, as ubiquity probablly didn't look any different than usual
[08:29] <abhinav-> yofel: here it is https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/768105
[08:30] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 768105 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Not able to install using the latest Live CD (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New]
[09:03] <JoshuaL> 2 weeks ago I reported a bug, but I now see its marked as private, is it safe to mark it public (bug 754912)
[09:03] <ubot4> JoshuaL: Bug 754912 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/754912 is private
[09:59] <jibel> JoshuaL, is there a core dump attached to the report and do the report or backtraces or logs contains any sensitive/confidential data ?
[10:00] <jibel> JoshuaL, since it is a crash in evolution you must be careful that the trace doesn't contain email credentials for instance.
[10:11] <JoshuaL> jibel: i cant see a coredump and i checked the files for any credentials
[10:16] <jibel> JoshuaL, it can be set to public then. I also verified that it's fine.
[10:16] <JoshuaL> jibel: ok
[10:16] <DNJDSJDSADSJDSAN> hi
[10:16] <JoshuaL> jibel: done
[10:17] <jibel> JoshuaL, thanks
[10:17] <DNJDSJDSADSJDSAN> i have to report some bugs
[10:17] <ikonia> DNJDSJDSADSJDSAN: I've given you the process
[10:17] <ikonia> DNJDSJDSADSJDSAN: you do not report bugs here, follow the process I gave you
[10:17] <DNJDSJDSADSJDSAN> AH OK
[10:18] <DNJDSJDSADSJDSAN> because you said
[10:18] <DNJDSJDSADSJDSAN> [11:16] <ikonia> 3/join #ubuntu-bugs
[10:22] <JoshuaL> jibel: i have to go now, thanks for the help :)
[10:23] <jibel> JoshuaL, thanks for _your_ help in triaging :-)
[10:23] <JoshuaL> :D
[10:23] <JoshuaL> bye
[11:19] <jibel> mvo, do you know where the mirror list in software-properties-gtk comes from and how it is updated ?
[11:30] <jibel> mvo, bug 764384
[11:30] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 764384 in apt (Ubuntu) "kyrgizstan mirror information in maverick is outdated (breaking the upgrade to natty) (affects: 1) (heat: 10)" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/764384
[11:32] <duanedesign> jibel: according to https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archivemirrors  kyrgizstan last update 'unknown'
[11:33] <jibel> duanedesign, agree, but why do they differ in natty and maverick ?
[11:34] <duanedesign> I am reading all the comments now :)
[11:34]  * duanedesign should of done that before commenting :D
[11:57] <mvo> thanks jibel!
[11:59] <jibel> mvo, yw :-) and to answer my question,  do you know where the mirror list in software-properties-gtk comes from and how it is updated ? afair it comes from somewhere in apt but I'm not sure.
[11:59] <mvo> jibel: its from python-apt and that in turn uses launchpad to update it
[11:59] <mvo> jibel: I look at it and probably ship one inside the upgrade to be on the safe side
[12:03] <jibel> yeah, it's in there /usr/share/python-apt/templates/Ubuntu.mirrors
[12:11] <mvo> jibel: the problem is that the code is not very clever when a mirror disappears (well, that is ok usually, but in this case its more complicated because the user also has archive.ubuntu.com in his/her sources.list
[12:13] <jibel> mvo, seen that, but in maverick the list of mirror in software-properties-gtk proposes the old mirror, shouldn't the list be refreshed with the mirror published on lp and use the cache only if it can retrieve this list ?
[12:13] <jibel> s/can/can not/
[12:14] <mvo> jibel: yeah, its all static currently, but I think we should do better for oneiric by using mirrors.ubuntu.com/mirrors.txt
[12:15] <mvo> jibel: we did not do it in the past because the hit for LP was a unknown factor to me but mirrors.ubuntu.com is build to scale to much bigger levels of requests
[13:03] <jibel> mvo, understand, thanks for looking at it.
[15:49] <jibel> bdmurray, we are receiving many apport crashes (e.g. bug 768348) didn't you add a bugpattern yesterday or it is another bug ?
[15:49] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 768348 in apport (Ubuntu) "package apport 1.20.1-0ubuntu5 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1 (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/768348
[15:53] <bdmurray> jibel: I added one for version ubuntu[3|4] and some of these are dist-upgrades so a match for VarLogDistupgradeTermlog needs to be written
[15:54] <bdmurray> jibel: I'm not certain why ubuntu5 is still generating this message
[15:56] <jibel> bdmurray, in this particular bug the package version in the description is 5 but term.log indicates "Setting up apport (1.20.1-0ubuntu4) "
[15:57] <jibel> that's probably a report from a crash of the previous version lying in /var/crash/
[15:58] <bdmurray> jibel, okay I'll expand the pattern
[17:17] <roadmr> hey folks, I'm seeing two problems with today's daily image:
[17:17] <roadmr> 1) on some systems it gets stuck on "getting the time from a network time server"
[17:18] <roadmr> 2) on another (just one so far) the progress report area at the bottom of the "install" window isn't visible, so unless I go console, I have no idea what it's doing - though it seems stuck like in #1
[17:18] <charlie-tca> roadmr: desktop images are broken today
[17:19] <roadmr> charlie-tca: oh and do my problems correspond with the brokenness? :)
[17:19] <charlie-tca> bug 767402
[17:20] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 767402 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Natty ubiquity 2.6.6 fails to ask where to install (affects: 6) (heat: 32)" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/767402
[17:20] <charlie-tca> it just spins all day if you let it?
[17:21] <roadmr> I've left them for about an hour and still no change, still on "getting the time from network time server"
[17:23] <abhinav-> yes, I had images from 20th and 21st of April, both got stuck at the slideshow
[17:23] <charlie-tca> The ones I have used and run installs from with that bug will spin all day long
[17:23] <charlie-tca> they don't really do anything, either
[17:23] <charlie-tca> apparently, missing the partitioner does not allow any changes
[17:24] <roadmr> oh awesome heh
[17:25] <charlie-tca> I left one two hours, only to find nothing happened
[17:26] <roadmr> I was doing some ntp-related changes on our network, so when I saw this error I thought it was my fault, undid all my work from yesterday before I realized it might be a problem with the installer :-/
[17:31] <JanC> does anybody know what package I should assign to keyboard layout bugs?  (well, actually an Apple-tries-to-be-cheap-bug, but we'll have to work around it...)
[20:13] <rr0hit> There seems to be a bug in today's apport update. bug 768429. Please set importance to Medium.
[20:13] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 768429 in apport (Ubuntu) "package apport 1.20.1-0ubuntu5 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1 (affects: 10) (dups: 10) (heat: 86)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/768429
[20:14]  * yofel looks
[20:15] <yofel> how the hell did apport dupe that without a DpkgTerminalLog ?
[20:16] <yofel> rr0hit: or did you use that as master?
[20:16] <rr0hit> yofel: I marked the duplicates of the bug.
[20:17] <yofel> because at least bug 768431 is a dup of bug 767498, and not 768429
[20:17] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 768431 in apport (Ubuntu) "package apport 1.20.1-0ubuntu5 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1 (dup-of: 768429)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/768431
[20:17] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 768429 in apport (Ubuntu) "package apport 1.20.1-0ubuntu5 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1 (affects: 11) (dups: 10) (heat: 90)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/768429
[20:17] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 767498 in apport (Ubuntu Natty) (and 2 other projects) "package apport 1.20.1-0ubuntu3 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1 (affects: 218) (dups: 149) (heat: 1520)" [Critical,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/767498
[20:17] <yofel> Setting up apport (1.20.1-0ubuntu3) ...
[20:17] <yofel> start: Job failed to start
[20:17] <yofel> apport just puts ubuntu5 wrongly into the title
[20:18] <rr0hit> yofel: dint notice that !!
[20:18] <yofel> 768429 is probably a dup of 767498 too, or maybe bug 767829 which was an immediate follow up due to a wrong fix
[20:18] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 767829 in apport (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "package apport 1.20.1-0ubuntu4 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1 (affects: 152) (dups: 112) (heat: 1084)" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/767829
[20:19] <micahg> that was supposed to be fixed with ubuntu5, if it's broke, we need to escalate it now
[20:19] <yofel> if the DkgTerminalLog says ubuntu3 it's a dup of 767498, if the log says ubuntu4 it's a dup of 767829
[20:19] <yofel> micahg: yeah, but apport files a bug with title ubuntu5 for the ubuntu3 crash
[20:19] <yofel> see the term log in 768431
[20:20] <micahg> yofel: if it's on upgrading from ubuntu3 to ubuntu5, that's an issue that may or may not need to be fixed
[20:20] <yofel> well, the terminal log says "Setting up apport (1.20.1-0ubuntu3) ..." but apport puts ubuntu5 into the title, that's the problem
[20:20] <yofel> so what exactly is the bug about?
[20:26] <yofel> anyway, unless you see bugs with ubuntu5 failing to set up in the DpkgTerminalLog mark them as dups of those 2 bugs that were fixed
[20:27] <yofel> *sigh*, another ubuntu4 bug filed as ubuntu5...
[20:27] <jibel> yofel, that's probably because apport report the crash on restart, so the active version of apport is 5 but the crash is 3 or 4
[20:27] <yofel> could be, makes the duping confusing though as you see
[20:32] <rr0hit> yofel : all except 2 of the duplicates I marked are while "Setting up apport (1.20.1-0ubuntu3)". So should I change those and mark as dupes of 767498 ?
[20:33] <yofel> yes please
[20:33] <rr0hit> yofel: alright.
[20:33] <yofel> ping me if you have one with ubuntu5 in the log, shouldn't be the case though
[20:49] <bdmurray> hello so I've a banshee bug that I encounter semi-regularly anybody know how to debug it?
[20:50] <bdmurray> or got some really useful information?
[20:52]  * rr0hit cleaned up the mess he himself created. phew !!
[20:54] <rr0hit> yofel: Could you add a comment to bug 767498 to explain why a few bugs have the wrong package version in the title? I dont really get it. Might avoid confusion.
[20:54] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 767498 in apport (Ubuntu Natty) (and 2 other projects) "package apport 1.20.1-0ubuntu3 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1 (affects: 226) (dups: 158) (heat: 1590)" [Critical,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/767498
[21:04] <Ampelbein> bdmurray: regarding debugging banshee, I think it could be useful to look at http://www.mono-project.com/Debugging
[22:19] <rr0hit> Could anyone set bug 663934 to importance low ? hopefully some one who knows the minesweeper game :)
[22:19] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 663934 in gnome-games (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "gnomine impossible solutions (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/663934
[22:23] <Ampelbein> rr0hit: done
[22:27] <rr0hit> Ampelbein: okay..Thanks :)