| akgraner | JFo, you still up? We need some mad dj skilz....and becca needs a beat she can put these vocals too | 03:27 |
|---|---|---|
| cjohnston | heh | 03:27 |
| akgraner | she said the Bm Bm/E cord changes are annoying her and she just wants to sing not play and sing...:-/ | 03:29 |
| nigelb | ;5~Morning folks | 03:30 |
| akgraner | morning nigelb | 03:32 |
| akgraner | I was showing becca how to use audacity (what little I know) and she sat down at my computer and laughed the muahahaha laugh as she found my fb, qwibber and irc screens and said - "Now, I have the power!" | 03:34 |
| nigelb | akgraner: hahaha | 03:34 |
| akgraner | I threatened her if she typed anything as me... | 03:35 |
| cjohnston | jcastro: what do you think about on http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-o/ seperating out the linaro tracks from the ubuntu tracks somehow... | 03:35 |
| jcastro | I think that's a bad idea | 03:35 |
| cjohnston | Like a Ubuntu By Track: and Linaro By Tracl: | 03:35 |
| jcastro | they use the same rooms as normal UDS | 03:35 |
| jcastro | so the scheduler jumbles them all up in the same pile | 03:36 |
| cjohnston | right.. not saying different pages or anything.. but right now its, u, u, u, u, u, l, l, l, l, l, l, l, l, l, u, u, u... i think all the u's should be in one column, and all the l's in one column | 03:36 |
| jcastro | they have a logo | 03:37 |
| jcastro | it's supposed to be integrated on purpose | 03:37 |
| cjohnston | I don't see any logos | 03:37 |
| jcastro | it's supposed to be Linaro and Ubuntu are one intermingled happiness | 03:37 |
| jcastro | not Linaro on this side, Ubuntu on that side | 03:37 |
| cjohnston | ok | 03:37 |
| cjohnston | then why specidy linaro andoind and not ubuntu design? | 03:38 |
| cjohnston | they are being seperated by that | 03:38 |
| cjohnston | imo | 03:38 |
| jcastro | I dunno man | 03:38 |
| nigelb | cjohnston: don't make jcastro cry :p | 03:41 |
| mhall119 | jcastro: if it's supposed to be one intermingled happiness, why are we adding settings to only show Linaro tracks? | 03:42 |
| nigelb | that's probably just to filter, and the intermingled happiness sounds like its only for the screens :p | 03:42 |
| cjohnston | theres no ubuntu only track views | 03:43 |
| jcastro | look guys, I only found out about the linaro stuff like 2 days ago | 03:43 |
| cjohnston | lol | 03:43 |
| jcastro | they have exactly 1 blueprint filed | 03:43 |
| jcastro | and we have like 2 weeks until UDs | 03:43 |
| nigelb | like I said, dont make jcastro cry ;) | 03:44 |
| jcastro | so all the reqs keep changing | 03:44 |
| nigelb | cjohnston: do we have a web precense team bluprint yet? | 03:44 |
| cjohnston | theres an ld one... | 03:44 |
| cjohnston | discussion of a summit one... | 03:44 |
| mhall119 | nigelb: can we at least make him wimper a little? | 03:44 |
| cjohnston | lol | 03:44 |
| nigelb | haha | 03:44 |
| nigelb | cjohnston: link me to the LD one | 03:45 |
| nigelb | mhall119: can I propose a summit one? | 03:45 |
| cjohnston | i dont know that its approved yet | 03:45 |
| nigelb | aaah. | 03:45 |
| mhall119 | nigelb: you can propose whatever you want, I'll be at the ISD sprint :) | 03:46 |
| akgraner | "and jcastro goes from community team member by day to linaro super hero by night" | 03:46 |
| nigelb | mhall119: dammit, no point in having something without you | 03:46 |
| cjohnston | what about me | 03:46 |
| mhall119 | nigelb: I can probably get out of my sprint for summit and ld work | 03:46 |
| nigelb | mhall119: yeah, that's why I asked you first, so that you can jump out :-) | 03:47 |
| mhall119 | but I'll have to get it approved, so the sooner you get the blueprints approved and scheduled, the better chance of me being there | 03:47 |
| cjohnston | schedules change.. :-/ | 03:47 |
| * nigelb goes to write blueprint. | 03:47 | |
| * cjohnston is off to bed.. gnite | 03:47 | |
| nigelb | good night cjohnston | 03:47 |
| nigelb | didn't jcastro have a 'how to propose sessions vido?' | 03:48 |
| akgraner | yeppers he does | 03:48 |
| nigelb | can someone link me to that? | 03:48 |
| mhall119 | cjohnston: impossible, UDS schedules are written in stone | 03:48 |
| nigelb | so that's whhy jono takes time to approve. he'll be etching on stone.... | 03:49 |
| mhall119 | jono just rips on his guitar and the stone falls away where the letters should be | 03:49 |
| akgraner | mhall119, and by stone do you mean jello | 03:49 |
| nigelb | hahaha | 03:49 |
| mhall119 | akgraner: no, even jello roughly holds it's shape, more like water | 03:49 |
| nigelb | akgraner: yeah, bright green ones | 03:49 |
| akgraner | well the schedule does melt under heat and pressure just like jello...it's starts out solid... | 03:50 |
| mhall119 | why are you squeezing your jello? | 03:50 |
| nigelb | lots of pressure :p | 03:51 |
| nigelb | to fit the scedule | 03:51 |
| akgraner | nigelb, http://ubuntudevelopers.blip.tv/file/3539348/ | 03:52 |
| jcastro | http://castrojo.tumblr.com/post/4795149014/the-power-users-guide-to-unity | 03:55 |
| jcastro | BEHOLD | 03:55 |
| * nigelb tweets | 03:55 | |
| jcastro | ok everyone tell everyone about this | 03:57 |
| jcastro | http://www.reddit.com/r/Ubuntu/ | 03:58 |
| jcastro | and upboat me on the reddits | 03:58 |
| nigelb | hang on, sighning in. | 03:58 |
| nigelb | upvoted :-) | 03:58 |
| akgraner | jcastro, that's am awesome post! | 03:59 |
| jcastro | TELL THE UNIVERSE | 03:59 |
| akgraner | I'll stick it on the Fridge... | 03:59 |
| akgraner | jcastro, your twitter id is castrojo? or something else? | 04:01 |
| jcastro | castrojo | 04:01 |
| nigelb | jcastro: SHE ISN'T FOLLOWING YOU! | 04:02 |
| nigelb | :-P | 04:02 |
| akgraner | twitted and dented :-) | 04:02 |
| jcastro | oh so she's like jono then? | 04:02 |
| akgraner | ouch! | 04:02 |
| nigelb | haha | 04:02 |
| * akgraner fixes that right now.. | 04:03 | |
| akgraner | I am usually signed into qwibber and to follow people I have to sign into twitter... | 04:03 |
| akgraner | ha I am following you | 04:04 |
| akgraner | I need to follow more people...:-( but I hate being signed into gwibber and all the other social sites...I like one place... | 04:05 |
| mhall119 | yeah, missing a "follow" option in gwibber is a pain | 04:06 |
| akgraner | if I could follow people and get to my facebook group pages....my gwibber life would be complete | 04:06 |
| mhall119 | I'm not sure if the twitter api doesn't allow it or what | 04:07 |
| nigelb | does I think. | 04:07 |
| nigelb | mhall119: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/summit/+spec/community-o-summit | 04:09 |
| nigelb | everything looks alright? | 04:09 |
| paultag | JanC: oh noes! | 04:53 |
| dholbach | good morning | 08:01 |
| nigelb | hello dholbach | 08:02 |
| dholbach | hey nigelb | 08:04 |
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| kim0 | morning | 08:59 |
| jussi | Monring kim0 :) | 08:59 |
| kim0 | jussi: hey :) | 09:00 |
| nigelb | hey kim0 | 09:01 |
| nigelb | hello jussi | 09:01 |
| kim0 | nigelb: hi o/ | 09:01 |
| nigelb | oh yeah, dpm is off today :-) | 09:01 |
| duanedesign | morning dholbach nigelb kim0 | 09:24 |
| dholbach | hey duanedesign | 09:24 |
| kim0 | duanedesign: hey | 09:25 |
| duanedesign | what online open poll systems are there. nhandler always sets up the ones we use on the Beginners Team...having trouble remembering the name | 09:25 |
| czajkowski | doodle? | 09:26 |
| duanedesign | thank you czajkowski | 09:29 |
| czajkowski | duanedesign: np | 09:30 |
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| popey | Morning all! | 09:42 |
| czajkowski | popey: still here, they;ve not removed you from the internet then | 09:45 |
| czajkowski | all is good and safe in the world then | 09:46 |
| popey | Not _yet_ | 09:46 |
| czajkowski | should I stay or should I go now.... | 09:46 |
| Daviey | czajkowski: Whatever you do, Darling you gotta let me know. | 10:01 |
| AlanBell | if I stay there will be trouble | 10:21 |
| nigelb | buahah | 10:30 |
| akgraner | Hey y'all does or is there a way to set what time update manager runs? | 11:48 |
| akgraner | I see how to set the frequency ie daily weekly..etc but not the time checks for the updates.. | 11:49 |
| nigelb | oh man. Amazon EC2 West Virgina is down. | 11:52 |
| nigelb | and takes down Fourqure, hootsuite, quora, and reddit along with it.... | 11:52 |
| nigelb | akgraner: probably a good feature to request. | 12:03 |
| duanedesign | anyone know the command to drop the elevated priveleges? The 15 minute period after you enter your sudo password | 12:06 |
| popey | sudo -k | 12:06 |
| duanedesign | thank you! | 12:07 |
| akgraner | nigelb, so can you change that? ....or is it one of those SOL things? | 12:09 |
| nigelb | akgraner: I don't think so. It seems to run when I do something with apt | 12:10 |
| akgraner | I don't think I am asking the mighty google the right question... | 12:10 |
| popey | akgraner: 42 | 12:11 |
| akgraner | so if google can't find me the answer, I'll have to punt it to, "AskUbuntu"... | 12:11 |
| akgraner | popey, ha... | 12:11 |
| jussi | *G* | 12:15 |
| akgraner | ok I finally asked a question without being prompted by jcastro to do so :-) yay there is hope for me after all...(well at least in regards to asking Ubuntu) | 12:19 |
| * nigelb goes to upvote | 12:20 | |
| akgraner | Ok I've never submitted a feature request...how does one do that? | 12:21 |
| akgraner | oh wow newness....this is so cool... | 12:22 |
| nigelb | log a bug :-) | 12:22 |
| akgraner | ahhh ok... | 12:23 |
| akgraner | I know how to do that...I just didn't realize it was the same process...:-) | 12:23 |
| JanC | I think it pops up after apt touches some file that tells update-manager tehre are updates available | 12:31 |
| nigelb | :) | 12:31 |
| nigelb | JanC: this is not a trivial features :-) | 12:31 |
| JanC | and the apt cronjob runs automatically around 6h25 (am) it seems | 12:32 |
| JanC | which will be postponed if your PC isn't on at that time ;) | 12:33 |
| nigelb | I run aptcron on my server, so it does it automatically at 4 am | 12:33 |
| JanC | nigelb: I think Ubuntu has an apt cronjob by default? | 12:34 |
| JanC | at least, I can't remember installign it, and certainly not on all systems ;) | 12:35 |
| nigelb | I dont think there is something by default | 12:36 |
| JanC | hm, then how come 10.10 & 11.04 can automatically check for, download and/or install all updates or security updates by default ? | 12:39 |
| JanC | ;) | 12:39 |
| nigelb | JanC: ah, there is. I wanted it to notify me. Now I remeember :) | 12:40 |
| nigelb | JanC: Also, is it an update-manager feature? Like is it on servers? | 12:40 |
| JanC | it works on servers too | 12:40 |
| JanC | update-manager does never check for updates itself, unless you press the button in its GUI | 12:42 |
| JanC | well, it checks for the file that the apt cronjob leaves behind for it | 12:42 |
| nigelb | JanC: ah, 10.10 | 12:43 |
| nigelb | JanC: my servers run 10.04 :-) | 12:43 |
| JanC | I'm not sure 10.04 had it or not | 12:43 |
| JanC | I think it must have got a check for updates, but maybe not unattended updates (I would have to check) | 12:44 |
| JanC | unattended upgrades | 12:44 |
| JanC | nigelb: 10.04 has it too | 12:45 |
| nigelb | JanC: hrm, I should check then. | 12:46 |
| JanC | nigelb: and you can set a mail address too | 12:51 |
| JanC | see /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/50unattended-upgrades and some other files in that directory | 12:52 |
| duanedesign | nigelb: you run cron-apt? | 13:13 |
| duanedesign | nigelb: do you have it just download the updates? Or do you have them auto installed them as well? | 13:14 |
| nigelb | duanedesign: everything is auto-installed | 13:32 |
| * duanedesign nods | 13:40 | |
| duanedesign | jcastro: like your unity power user blog post | 13:54 |
| jcastro | thanks! | 13:57 |
| jcastro | hey akgraner | 14:00 |
| mhall119 | jcastro: doctormo: hope you don't mind being in my screenshot: http://img560.imageshack.us/img560/4853/readfeeder1.png | 14:06 |
| jcastro | NNNNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO | 14:07 |
| jcastro | just kidding | 14:07 |
| * jcastro is going on a roadtrip today to speak at the Indiana LoCo | 14:10 | |
| czajkowski | jcastro: sweet | 14:11 |
| mhall119 | Indian Jorge and the LoCo of Doom | 14:12 |
| mhall119 | Indiana | 14:12 |
| mhall119 | bah, well I blew that joke | 14:12 |
| jcastro | yeah | 14:12 |
| mhall119 | :( | 14:12 |
| * mhall119 hangs his head in shame | 14:13 | |
| jcastro | Raiders of the lost LoCo | 14:13 |
| czajkowski | oh dear | 14:13 |
| czajkowski | and so it begins | 14:13 |
| * mhall119 blames popey | 14:13 | |
| dholbach | been a long week, eh? :) | 14:16 |
| popey | hmm | 14:16 |
| czajkowski | such a long week | 14:17 |
| mhall119 | czajkowski: how's your back feeling? | 14:17 |
| czajkowski | on the plus side my mum got the all clear from stomach cancer | 14:17 |
| czajkowski | mhall119: so so cant take pain killers so lying flat on my back and bored out of my brains | 14:17 |
| mhall119 | !cancer == win | 14:17 |
| ubot2 | Factoid 'cancer == win' not found | 14:17 |
| czajkowski | I've a few blog posts in the line | 14:17 |
| mhall119 | heh | 14:17 |
| czajkowski | oh and I've re arranged my room about 4 different ways | 14:18 |
| czajkowski | and emptied my clothes out of wardrobes and folded them all back in twice now | 14:18 |
| mhall119 | ok, moving furniture around multiple times probably isn't the best way to let a sore back recover | 14:18 |
| czajkowski | no just little things | 14:18 |
| czajkowski | liek where things went | 14:18 |
| czajkowski | small ickle things | 14:18 |
| mhall119 | oh, ok | 14:18 |
| mhall119 | when Michelle says "rearranged", she means the major furniture | 14:19 |
| mhall119 | usually multiple times | 14:19 |
| mhall119 | and usually done by me | 14:19 |
| czajkowski | hehe | 14:19 |
| mhall119 | it's funny, she likes to re-arrange furniture once ever few months or so, but when I set furniture I will usually leave it in the same arrangement forever | 14:20 |
| czajkowski | that's no fun | 14:21 |
| mhall119 | probably not, but I don't typically look to my furniture for fun | 14:22 |
| mhall119 | hmmm...that sounds kind of wrong... | 14:22 |
| vish | jcastro: the power user blog maybe worth adding it to askubuntu, as a community wiki and keep adding new stuff later.. | 14:36 |
| * vish was considering asking ops to add it to +1 topic | 14:37 | |
| jcastro | vish: that would be great if you want to start that | 14:39 |
| jcastro | and I'll just sync it back to my blog | 14:40 |
| jcastro | There's a cool "unity screenshot" thread on the forums I can't find, but I've asked people to help | 14:40 |
| * vish tries to ask-ify that.. | 14:40 | |
| jcastro | it takes html | 14:40 |
| jcastro | a copy and paste outta do it | 14:40 |
| JFo | akgraner, I'm up now :-) | 14:40 |
| akgraner | JFo, oh cool you got some rest then! yay! | 14:46 |
| JFo | indeed I did | 14:46 |
| JFo | it was an odd thing, but my research into my insomnia has yielded oddly interesting results | 14:46 |
| JFo | I'll elaborate later | 14:47 |
| JFo | <-reading an e-mail that is giving me a headache and no doubt did the same for the rest of the team yesterday. :-/ | 14:47 |
| akgraner | rut roh | 14:48 |
| JFo | yeah | 14:48 |
| JFo | it is speculation (the e-mail) but it is painful | 14:49 |
| cjohnston | heyo | 15:02 |
| daker | kim0, check that http://www.alarabiya.net/ | 15:06 |
| akgraner | nigelb, check out the answer - http://askubuntu.com/questions/36251/is-there-a-way-to-change-what-time-the-update-manager-checks-for-updates | 15:08 |
| akgraner | I think I'll get a t-shirt that says - I <3 Ask Ubuntu! | 15:09 |
| kim0 | daker: yeah that happens :) | 15:29 |
| daker | ツ | 15:29 |
| kim0 | it's real bad when it happens to a website you're responsible for | 15:29 |
| daker | yes | 15:31 |
| JanC | what happened to Al Arabiya ? | 15:59 |
| dholbach | alright my friends - I call it a day - have a great WE | 16:02 |
| dholbach | see you on Tuesday | 16:02 |
| cjohnston | o. | 16:02 |
| cjohnston | o/ | 16:02 |
| dholbach | byeeeeeeeeeee | 16:03 |
| JanC | akgraner: the answer on AskUbuntu isn't entirely correct though ;) | 16:05 |
| akgraner | JanC can you update it then? | 16:06 |
| akgraner | I haven't had a change to play with it yet.... | 16:06 |
| JanC | well, it's somewhat complicated | 16:06 |
| JanC | the script that does the update has a random time it waits to avoid all 20 million Ubuntu users to start checking for updates at the same time | 16:07 |
| akgraner | I noticed that..but I figured I'd muddle through it or at least try to... and still ask for a menu option :-) | 16:07 |
| akgraner | see - I am destined to remain a confused being..;-P | 16:08 |
| JanC | and changing crontab as Oli suggests will also change the time for all other cron jobs that run daily | 16:09 |
| JanC | akgraner: comment added to http://askubuntu.com/questions/36251/is-there-a-way-to-change-what-time-the-update-manager-checks-for-updates/36260#36260 ;) | 16:27 |
| akgraner | thank you! :-) | 16:33 |
| akgraner | jcastro, just added your Power Users guide to the Fridge :-) Thank again for posting all that...! | 16:34 |
| jcastro | YEAH YEAH! | 16:34 |
| jcastro | akgraner: I will be constantly updating it | 16:34 |
| akgraner | jcastro, just remind me as you update it and I'll make sure the fridge is updated as well, but just incase you get busy -I have added your blog to my RSS feeds :-) | 16:35 |
| jcastro | I suspect a bunch early on | 16:39 |
| jcastro | and then we'll be finished | 16:39 |
| mhall119 | akgraner: ping | 17:25 |
| akgraner | pong | 17:25 |
| mhall119 | may I pm? | 17:25 |
| czajkowski | jcastro: it's a really good post been tweeting it all day and saw lots of people I don't know Rting it | 17:25 |
| akgraner | mhall119, of course..:-) | 17:26 |
| AlanBell | what we need to do is make the wiki useable again and put the power users guide on the wiki | 17:29 |
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| cjohnston | nothing should go on the wiki | 20:35 |
| AlanBell | cjohnston: where should it go? | 20:44 |
| AlanBell | or more to the point, why do you say that nothing should go on the wiki? | 20:45 |
| cjohnston | cause of the suckage of the wiki... I'm not a huge fan of wikis tho.. | 21:02 |
| cjohnston | I like more 'official' publishing methods for like a power users guide | 21:02 |
| JanC | it's called 'man' ;) | 21:04 |
| AlanBell | oh, ok, cjohnston, yes the wiki sucks, I believe there is a process in place to unsuck it, once done it should become useful again | 21:13 |
| cjohnston | My second statement clarifies that one tho.. lol I'm just not a fan of wikis | 21:14 |
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