[03:27] JFo, you still up? We need some mad dj skilz....and becca needs a beat she can put these vocals too [03:27] heh [03:29] she said the Bm Bm/E cord changes are annoying her and she just wants to sing not play and sing...:-/ [03:30] ;5~Morning folks [03:32] morning nigelb [03:34] I was showing becca how to use audacity (what little I know) and she sat down at my computer and laughed the muahahaha laugh as she found my fb, qwibber and irc screens and said - "Now, I have the power!" [03:34] akgraner: hahaha [03:35] I threatened her if she typed anything as me... [03:35] jcastro: what do you think about on http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-o/ seperating out the linaro tracks from the ubuntu tracks somehow... [03:35] I think that's a bad idea [03:35] Like a Ubuntu By Track: and Linaro By Tracl: [03:35] they use the same rooms as normal UDS [03:36] so the scheduler jumbles them all up in the same pile [03:36] right.. not saying different pages or anything.. but right now its, u, u, u, u, u, l, l, l, l, l, l, l, l, l, u, u, u... i think all the u's should be in one column, and all the l's in one column [03:37] they have a logo [03:37] it's supposed to be integrated on purpose [03:37] I don't see any logos [03:37] it's supposed to be Linaro and Ubuntu are one intermingled happiness [03:37] not Linaro on this side, Ubuntu on that side [03:37] ok [03:38] then why specidy linaro andoind and not ubuntu design? [03:38] they are being seperated by that [03:38] imo [03:38] I dunno man [03:41] cjohnston: don't make jcastro cry :p [03:42] jcastro: if it's supposed to be one intermingled happiness, why are we adding settings to only show Linaro tracks? [03:42] that's probably just to filter, and the intermingled happiness sounds like its only for the screens :p [03:43] theres no ubuntu only track views [03:43] look guys, I only found out about the linaro stuff like 2 days ago [03:43] lol [03:43] they have exactly 1 blueprint filed [03:43] and we have like 2 weeks until UDs [03:44] like I said, dont make jcastro cry ;) [03:44] so all the reqs keep changing [03:44] cjohnston: do we have a web precense team bluprint yet? [03:44] theres an ld one... [03:44] discussion of a summit one... [03:44] nigelb: can we at least make him wimper a little? [03:44] lol [03:44] haha [03:45] cjohnston: link me to the LD one [03:45] mhall119: can I propose a summit one? [03:45] i dont know that its approved yet [03:45] aaah. [03:46] nigelb: you can propose whatever you want, I'll be at the ISD sprint :) [03:46] "and jcastro goes from community team member by day to linaro super hero by night" [03:46] mhall119: dammit, no point in having something without you [03:46] what about me [03:46] nigelb: I can probably get out of my sprint for summit and ld work [03:47] mhall119: yeah, that's why I asked you first, so that you can jump out :-) [03:47] but I'll have to get it approved, so the sooner you get the blueprints approved and scheduled, the better chance of me being there [03:47] schedules change.. :-/ [03:47] * nigelb goes to write blueprint. [03:47] * cjohnston is off to bed.. gnite [03:47] good night cjohnston [03:48] didn't jcastro have a 'how to propose sessions vido?' [03:48] yeppers he does [03:48] can someone link me to that? [03:48] cjohnston: impossible, UDS schedules are written in stone [03:49] so that's whhy jono takes time to approve. he'll be etching on stone.... [03:49] jono just rips on his guitar and the stone falls away where the letters should be [03:49] mhall119, and by stone do you mean jello [03:49] hahaha [03:49] akgraner: no, even jello roughly holds it's shape, more like water [03:49] akgraner: yeah, bright green ones [03:50] well the schedule does melt under heat and pressure just like jello...it's starts out solid... [03:50] why are you squeezing your jello? [03:51] lots of pressure :p [03:51] to fit the scedule [03:52] nigelb, http://ubuntudevelopers.blip.tv/file/3539348/ [03:55] http://castrojo.tumblr.com/post/4795149014/the-power-users-guide-to-unity [03:55] BEHOLD [03:55] * nigelb tweets [03:57] ok everyone tell everyone about this [03:58] http://www.reddit.com/r/Ubuntu/ [03:58] and upboat me on the reddits [03:58] hang on, sighning in. [03:58] upvoted :-) [03:59] jcastro, that's am awesome post! [03:59] TELL THE UNIVERSE [03:59] I'll stick it on the Fridge... [04:01] jcastro, your twitter id is castrojo? or something else? [04:01] castrojo [04:02] jcastro: SHE ISN'T FOLLOWING YOU! [04:02] :-P [04:02] twitted and dented :-) [04:02] oh so she's like jono then? [04:02] ouch! [04:02] haha [04:03] * akgraner fixes that right now.. [04:03] I am usually signed into qwibber and to follow people I have to sign into twitter... [04:04] ha I am following you [04:05] I need to follow more people...:-( but I hate being signed into gwibber and all the other social sites...I like one place... [04:06] yeah, missing a "follow" option in gwibber is a pain [04:06] if I could follow people and get to my facebook group pages....my gwibber life would be complete [04:07] I'm not sure if the twitter api doesn't allow it or what [04:07] does I think. [04:09] mhall119: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/summit/+spec/community-o-summit [04:09] everything looks alright? [04:53] JanC: oh noes! [08:01] good morning [08:02] hello dholbach [08:04] hey nigelb === cypher is now known as czajkowski [08:59] morning [08:59] Monring kim0 :) [09:00] jussi: hey :) [09:01] hey kim0 [09:01] hello jussi [09:01] nigelb: hi o/ [09:01] oh yeah, dpm is off today :-) [09:24] morning dholbach nigelb kim0 [09:24] hey duanedesign [09:25] duanedesign: hey [09:25] what online open poll systems are there. nhandler always sets up the ones we use on the Beginners Team...having trouble remembering the name [09:26] doodle? [09:29] thank you czajkowski [09:30] duanedesign: np === daker_ is now known as daker [09:42] Morning all! [09:45] popey: still here, they;ve not removed you from the internet then [09:46] all is good and safe in the world then [09:46] Not _yet_ [09:46] should I stay or should I go now.... [10:01] czajkowski: Whatever you do, Darling you gotta let me know. [10:21] if I stay there will be trouble [10:30] buahah [11:48] Hey y'all does or is there a way to set what time update manager runs? [11:49] I see how to set the frequency ie daily weekly..etc but not the time checks for the updates.. [11:52] oh man. Amazon EC2 West Virgina is down. [11:52] and takes down Fourqure, hootsuite, quora, and reddit along with it.... [12:03] akgraner: probably a good feature to request. [12:06] anyone know the command to drop the elevated priveleges? The 15 minute period after you enter your sudo password [12:06] sudo -k [12:07] thank you! [12:09] nigelb, so can you change that? ....or is it one of those SOL things? [12:10] akgraner: I don't think so. It seems to run when I do something with apt [12:10] I don't think I am asking the mighty google the right question... [12:11] akgraner: 42 [12:11] so if google can't find me the answer, I'll have to punt it to, "AskUbuntu"... [12:11] popey, ha... [12:15] *G* [12:19] ok I finally asked a question without being prompted by jcastro to do so :-) yay there is hope for me after all...(well at least in regards to asking Ubuntu) [12:20] * nigelb goes to upvote [12:21] Ok I've never submitted a feature request...how does one do that? [12:22] oh wow newness....this is so cool... [12:22] log a bug :-) [12:23] ahhh ok... [12:23] I know how to do that...I just didn't realize it was the same process...:-) [12:31] I think it pops up after apt touches some file that tells update-manager tehre are updates available [12:31] :) [12:31] JanC: this is not a trivial features :-) [12:32] and the apt cronjob runs automatically around 6h25 (am) it seems [12:33] which will be postponed if your PC isn't on at that time ;) [12:33] I run aptcron on my server, so it does it automatically at 4 am [12:34] nigelb: I think Ubuntu has an apt cronjob by default? [12:35] at least, I can't remember installign it, and certainly not on all systems ;) [12:36] I dont think there is something by default [12:39] hm, then how come 10.10 & 11.04 can automatically check for, download and/or install all updates or security updates by default ? [12:39] ;) [12:40] JanC: ah, there is. I wanted it to notify me. Now I remeember :) [12:40] JanC: Also, is it an update-manager feature? Like is it on servers? [12:40] it works on servers too [12:42] update-manager does never check for updates itself, unless you press the button in its GUI [12:42] well, it checks for the file that the apt cronjob leaves behind for it [12:43] JanC: ah, 10.10 [12:43] JanC: my servers run 10.04 :-) [12:43] I'm not sure 10.04 had it or not [12:44] I think it must have got a check for updates, but maybe not unattended updates (I would have to check) [12:44] unattended upgrades [12:45] nigelb: 10.04 has it too [12:46] JanC: hrm, I should check then. [12:51] nigelb: and you can set a mail address too [12:52] see /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/50unattended-upgrades and some other files in that directory [13:13] nigelb: you run cron-apt? [13:14] nigelb: do you have it just download the updates? Or do you have them auto installed them as well? [13:32] duanedesign: everything is auto-installed [13:40] * duanedesign nods [13:54] jcastro: like your unity power user blog post [13:57] thanks! [14:00] hey akgraner [14:06] jcastro: doctormo: hope you don't mind being in my screenshot: http://img560.imageshack.us/img560/4853/readfeeder1.png [14:07] NNNNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO [14:07] just kidding [14:10] * jcastro is going on a roadtrip today to speak at the Indiana LoCo [14:11] jcastro: sweet [14:12] Indian Jorge and the LoCo of Doom [14:12] Indiana [14:12] bah, well I blew that joke [14:12] yeah [14:12] :( [14:13] * mhall119 hangs his head in shame [14:13] Raiders of the lost LoCo [14:13] oh dear [14:13] and so it begins [14:13] * mhall119 blames popey [14:16] been a long week, eh? :) [14:16] hmm [14:17] such a long week [14:17] czajkowski: how's your back feeling? [14:17] on the plus side my mum got the all clear from stomach cancer [14:17] mhall119: so so cant take pain killers so lying flat on my back and bored out of my brains [14:17] !cancer == win [14:17] Factoid 'cancer == win' not found [14:17] I've a few blog posts in the line [14:17] heh [14:18] oh and I've re arranged my room about 4 different ways [14:18] and emptied my clothes out of wardrobes and folded them all back in twice now [14:18] ok, moving furniture around multiple times probably isn't the best way to let a sore back recover [14:18] no just little things [14:18] liek where things went [14:18] small ickle things [14:18] oh, ok [14:19] when Michelle says "rearranged", she means the major furniture [14:19] usually multiple times [14:19] and usually done by me [14:19] hehe [14:20] it's funny, she likes to re-arrange furniture once ever few months or so, but when I set furniture I will usually leave it in the same arrangement forever [14:21] that's no fun [14:22] probably not, but I don't typically look to my furniture for fun [14:22] hmmm...that sounds kind of wrong... [14:36] jcastro: the power user blog maybe worth adding it to askubuntu, as a community wiki and keep adding new stuff later.. [14:37] * vish was considering asking ops to add it to +1 topic [14:39] vish: that would be great if you want to start that [14:40] and I'll just sync it back to my blog [14:40] There's a cool "unity screenshot" thread on the forums I can't find, but I've asked people to help [14:40] * vish tries to ask-ify that.. [14:40] it takes html [14:40] a copy and paste outta do it [14:40] akgraner, I'm up now :-) [14:46] JFo, oh cool you got some rest then! yay! [14:46] indeed I did [14:46] it was an odd thing, but my research into my insomnia has yielded oddly interesting results [14:47] I'll elaborate later [14:47] <-reading an e-mail that is giving me a headache and no doubt did the same for the rest of the team yesterday. :-/ [14:48] rut roh [14:48] yeah [14:49] it is speculation (the e-mail) but it is painful [15:02] heyo [15:06] kim0, check that http://www.alarabiya.net/ [15:08] nigelb, check out the answer - http://askubuntu.com/questions/36251/is-there-a-way-to-change-what-time-the-update-manager-checks-for-updates [15:09] I think I'll get a t-shirt that says - I <3 Ask Ubuntu! [15:29] daker: yeah that happens :) [15:29] ツ [15:29] it's real bad when it happens to a website you're responsible for [15:31] yes [15:59] what happened to Al Arabiya ? [16:02] alright my friends - I call it a day - have a great WE [16:02] see you on Tuesday [16:02] o. [16:02] o/ [16:03] byeeeeeeeeeee [16:05] akgraner: the answer on AskUbuntu isn't entirely correct though ;) [16:06] JanC can you update it then? [16:06] I haven't had a change to play with it yet.... [16:06] well, it's somewhat complicated [16:07] the script that does the update has a random time it waits to avoid all 20 million Ubuntu users to start checking for updates at the same time [16:07] I noticed that..but I figured I'd muddle through it or at least try to... and still ask for a menu option :-) [16:08] see - I am destined to remain a confused being..;-P [16:09] and changing crontab as Oli suggests will also change the time for all other cron jobs that run daily [16:27] akgraner: comment added to http://askubuntu.com/questions/36251/is-there-a-way-to-change-what-time-the-update-manager-checks-for-updates/36260#36260 ;) [16:33] thank you! :-) [16:34] jcastro, just added your Power Users guide to the Fridge :-) Thank again for posting all that...! [16:34] YEAH YEAH! [16:34] akgraner: I will be constantly updating it [16:35] jcastro, just remind me as you update it and I'll make sure the fridge is updated as well, but just incase you get busy -I have added your blog to my RSS feeds :-) [16:39] I suspect a bunch early on [16:39] and then we'll be finished [17:25] akgraner: ping [17:25] pong [17:25] may I pm? [17:25] jcastro: it's a really good post been tweeting it all day and saw lots of people I don't know Rting it [17:26] mhall119, of course..:-) [17:29] what we need to do is make the wiki useable again and put the power users guide on the wiki === daker is now known as daker_ [20:35] nothing should go on the wiki [20:44] cjohnston: where should it go? [20:45] or more to the point, why do you say that nothing should go on the wiki? [21:02] cause of the suckage of the wiki... I'm not a huge fan of wikis tho.. [21:02] I like more 'official' publishing methods for like a power users guide [21:04] it's called 'man' ;) [21:13] oh, ok, cjohnston, yes the wiki sucks, I believe there is a process in place to unsuck it, once done it should become useful again [21:14] My second statement clarifies that one tho.. lol I'm just not a fan of wikis