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rickspencer3hey all, did the final help for Natty get uploaded?15:40
mdkerickspencer3: I've uploaded a package a short while ago but as to whether it's final or not, I'm not sure16:04
rickspencer3mdke, I just want to say "thanks" to you and the rest of the #ubuntu-doc team16:05
rickspencer3you folks are the best!16:05
rickspencer3I'm really impressed with how you managed to make it all work given the depth and frequency of changes16:05
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mdkerickspencer3: basically it is all down to j1mc and jbicha, they have done a lot of work on this.16:15
mdkerickspencer3: we left ti rather late...16:16
mdkerickspencer3: next release hopefully things will be better16:16
rickspencer3mdke, well, 11.04 is certainly better for the effort!16:16
rickspencer3will I be seeing anyone from #ubunut-docs in budapest?16:16
mdkenot sure. Not me anyway16:17
mdkebut maybe others16:17
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peppe84Hi guys. Maybe, another link is needeed in ubuntu-docs? E.g. here http://imagebin.org/149478 I can't go to index page. Right?18:28
jbichaj1mc: howdy20:38
j1mchi jbicha20:49
jbichaI wrote a brief overview of the indicators20:50
jbichaand I think the already existing windows & workspace page is fine20:50
j1mccool20:50
j1mci'll need to take another look at the windows + workspaces page. you are probably right20:51
jbichadid you have more stuff you were working on for the addremove software area?20:51
j1mccould you take a look at the unity-launcher-intro page? we need to add some topics that will feed-in to the bottom sections.20:52
jbichaI had a few off days, but I'm like in a sprint today20:52
j1mci've placed a <comment> in there to kind of outline some of the topics that we need20:52
j1mcme, too.20:52
j1mcwhere are you from, btw?20:53
j1mcwould you feel comfortable adding in some new topic pages that link-in to the launcher-intro sections?  (at the bottom of the launcher intro page)?20:54
jbichaare we capitalizing Launcher and Dash now?20:54
j1mcyes, i have been capitalizing them.20:55
jbichahaha, I haven't, hmmm20:55
j1mcmaybe i should put them in lower case. now that i think about it, it would be a bit weird to always refer to the panel as the Panel.20:56
j1mcmaybe lowercase with an <app> or <gui> tag around it would be most appropriate.20:57
j1mc<gui>... do you think that sounds good?20:57
jbichathat's what I've been doing, the help style seems to prefer lower case to title case anyway20:57
j1mcyeah20:58
j1mci'll change that around then.20:58
j1mci'll use lowercase with the <gui>gui</gui> tag.  :)20:58
jbichacool20:58
j1mcgoing back to the launcher topics... would you feel ok with adding in a few new topic pages?20:59
j1mci've outlined my thoughts in the "comment" section of the page.20:59
jbichagive me a moment to remerge so I can see the latest launcher page21:01
j1mcthe guide link would look like this:  <link type="guide" xref="unity-launcher-intro#section-id">21:01
j1mcnote the #section-id at the end of the link.21:01
j1mcok :)21:02
j1mcbrb21:02
jbichashell-windows-switching has a blurb you may want to move about the white triangles21:13
j1mcok - i'm back21:21
j1mcjbicha: oh, ok. thanks for the tip about the white triangles21:22
jbichathe launcher control panel app is annoying, it's so small and doesn't do much21:36
jbichamaybe it will make more sense in 11.1021:36
j1mcjbicha: you mean the thing with two options on it?  yeah.  :)21:37
jbichaand it can't even do that right, it opens in the top left corner, instead of the center of the screen21:38
j1mcit opened in some funky spot for me, too. i think it opened in the bottom left of the screen for me.21:38
jbichalol21:39
j1mcback to le doc'ing21:52
j1mctoo much to do... : /21:52
jbichawe don't have to do /everything/ this cycle21:53
j1mca solid intro is important, though.21:54
jbichaok, I added launcher autohide in my natty-work branch & the launcher pinning was already written21:56
j1mcok - i'll grab the launcher pinning help.21:58
sladenczajkowski: j1mc: mdke: Would you be able to comment on  https://bugs.launchpad.net/onboard/+bug/76858322:01
ubot2Launchpad bug 768583 in onboard "UIFe: Onboard (on-screen keyboard) does not use Ubuntu interface font or colours" [Undecided,Confirmed]22:01
sladenczajkowski: j1mc: mdke: AFAICT there are no/few screenshots of Onboard in the documentation22:02
sladenczajkowski: j1mc: mdke: which might proclude it from being pushed22:03
jbichaI don't even think we discuss onboard in the docs yet22:03
j1mcsladen: we're a bit behind on docs for this release. if you wouldn't mind filing a bug about lack of onboard docs in the documentation, we will address it when we are able.22:05
sladenj1mc: no, no /precisely/ the opposite request here ;-)  I want you to confirm that there aren't any!  :-)22:06
sladenj1mc: (I will of course file a bug report about it anyway)22:06
j1mcsladen: oh, ok. let me look at our a11y topics22:07
sladenj1mc: is  https://launchpad.net/ubuntu-docs/+filebug  the right place?22:07
jbichagnome-user-docs is what we're using now I believe22:07
sladenj1mc: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-docs/+filebug  ?22:08
sladenokay22:08
j1mcsladen: either one is fine. and, yes, i can confirm that we don't currently have any help relating to onboard.22:08
j1mcwe have help relating to orca, but it needs to be modified slightly.22:08
sladenj1mc: can you add your +1 to  https://bugs.launchpad.net/onboard/+bug/768583  on before of ubuntu-docs22:09
ubot2Launchpad bug 768583 in onboard "UIFe: Onboard (on-screen keyboard) does not use Ubuntu interface font or colours" [Undecided,Confirmed]22:09
sladenj1mc: eg. just  "At the moment we don't have any documentation about Onboard (we have some about Orca, but it needs updating)" so this proposed merge is fine by the Ubuntu Docs team"22:10
j1mcsladen: oh, ok. sure.22:10
j1mcsladen: done22:12
AlanBellhi all22:13
AlanBellI am wondering if there is any documentation impact of changing the look of the onboard on-screen keyboard22:14
* sladen smirks22:14
PendulumAlanBell: you're late22:15
j1mchi AlanBell22:15
AlanBellheh22:15
j1mci just responded to that bug report22:15
AlanBellcool22:15
j1mc:)22:15
AlanBello/ Pendulum22:15
* sladen still laughing22:15
sladentrue comic timing there22:16
* j1mc goes to get an early dinner.22:16
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jbichahmm, Ubuntu ships with 10 indicators, I just figured out how to turn on the accessibility one23:03
Pendulumjbicha: on Classic or Unity?23:04
PendulumUnity still isn't completely accessible so don't expect full functionality on it if you try using just the accessibility features to access it23:05
jbichawe should mention the funky scrollbars23:19
j1mcwe should go back to gnome already. make things easier on ourselves. :)23:37
jbichaI'm working on the a11y pages now23:44

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