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NCommander | #startmeeting | 15:59 |
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MootBot | Meeting started at 09:59. The chair is NCommander. | 15:59 |
MootBot | Commands Available: [TOPIC], [IDEA], [ACTION], [AGREED], [LINK], [VOTE] | 15:59 |
NCommander | [link] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MobileTeam/Meeting/2011/20110421 | 16:00 |
MootBot | LINK received: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MobileTeam/Meeting/2011/20110421 | 16:00 |
* davidm thinks meetings are fun | 16:00 | |
NCommander | who's here? | 16:00 |
ogra_ | cocoroo | 16:01 |
* GrueMaster is semi-conscious. | 16:01 | |
NCommander | [topic] Action Item Review | 16:01 |
MootBot | New Topic: Action Item Review | 16:01 |
NCommander | [topic] NCommander to poke cjwatson on soyuz archive skew plan | 16:01 |
MootBot | New Topic: NCommander to poke cjwatson on soyuz archive skew plan | 16:01 |
NCommander | Done, got good link on how Debian handles this, will create spec and propose for UDS | 16:01 |
NCommander | [topic] Standing Items | 16:02 |
MootBot | New Topic: Standing Items | 16:02 |
* davidm is sleeping in his chair in Austin | 16:02 | |
NCommander | [topic] http://people.canonical.com/~platform/workitems/natty/ubuntu-armel.html | 16:02 |
MootBot | New Topic: http://people.canonical.com/~platform/workitems/natty/ubuntu-armel.html | 16:02 |
ogra | NCommander, fix china :P | 16:02 |
ogra | looks good to me | 16:03 |
NCommander | [topic] Unity 2D Status | 16:03 |
MootBot | New Topic: Unity 2D Status | 16:03 |
ogra | fine | 16:04 |
ogra | nothing else to report ... uploaded a package with 20 bugfixes on tue. | 16:04 |
janimo | hi | 16:04 |
GrueMaster | Latest revision seems to be a good improvement. No issues yet. | 16:04 |
ogra | yay | 16:04 |
ogra | there are still some known crashers | 16:04 |
ogra | but they are SRUed already | 16:04 |
* janimo started using U-2d on the desktop today | 16:04 | |
ogra | :) | 16:05 |
ogra | do you like it ? | 16:05 |
janimo | with such revolutionaly interfaces it's hard to tell what is a bug and what is a feature | 16:05 |
janimo | it stays out of my weay so I like it | 16:05 |
janimo | alt-tab has some funnies, I filed a bug o nit | 16:05 |
ogra | it misses some shine and bling but behaves nearly the same as 3D | 16:05 |
janimo | I thought I was using 3d until I ran ps ax and after filing the bugreport | 16:06 |
ogra | but yeah, hard to know whats a feature and whats a bug atm :) | 16:06 |
janimo | and was surprised it did not crash | 16:06 |
janimo | now I know it is because it was not the 3d ui :) | 16:06 |
JasonO | Hi. Is this the Ayatana meeting? | 16:06 |
janimo | JasonO, arm | 16:06 |
GrueMaster | Can be somewhat irritating having the app menus on the status bar when using a 24" 1080p monitor and windowed apps. | 16:06 |
NCommander | janimo: no, ARM | 16:06 |
janimo | also dual screen may not yet be fully functional | 16:07 |
JasonO | janimo thnk you | 16:07 |
JasonO | *thanl | 16:07 |
JasonO | thank | 16:07 |
janimo | I have the panel on the right monitor, in blatant violation of the only Fitt's law I know | 16:07 |
ogra | lol | 16:07 |
ogra | anyway, move ? | 16:08 |
NCommander | [topic] Kernel Status (cooloney, rsalveti) | 16:08 |
MootBot | New Topic: Kernel Status (cooloney, rsalveti) | 16:08 |
rsalveti | not a lot to report on this for this week | 16:09 |
rsalveti | kernel bugs should all be an sru now, and published after the release, as an update | 16:09 |
ogra | ppisati_, ^^^ | 16:09 |
ogra | NCommander, ^ | 16:10 |
NCommander | [topic] ARM Porting/FTBFS status (NCommander, janimo) | 16:10 |
MootBot | New Topic: ARM Porting/FTBFS status (NCommander, janimo) | 16:10 |
rsalveti | I believe the main important bug now is the video sync lost, that ogra and GrueMaster were able to reproduce | 16:10 |
ogra | yeah | 16:10 |
janimo | nothing to report | 16:10 |
ogra | well, there *might* be MMC issues | 16:10 |
janimo | I do the usual giving back when new glib/gtk is uploaded | 16:10 |
ogra | given the amount of failures GrueMaster has seen | 16:10 |
rsalveti | ogra: yeah, from GrueMaster's report | 16:10 |
GrueMaster | ogra: It only affects netbook. | 16:11 |
janimo | other than that main looks fine | 16:11 |
ogra | GrueMaster, well, maybe there is more IO load on netbook ;) | 16:11 |
rsalveti | while testing I was never able to face these MMC issues, but will try at least more 2, 3 times | 16:11 |
ogra | yeah, i havent seen them either | 16:11 |
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GrueMaster | Oddly enough, most of the errors I have seen have no indication in the logs. | 16:12 |
ogra | GrueMaster, do you test with 8 and 16G as well ? (i thought so) | 16:12 |
GrueMaster | 4, 8, 16. Class 4, 6, 10 | 16:12 |
ogra | k | 16:12 |
ogra | just because of the issues on the pandaboard ML | 16:12 |
ogra | as long as thats covered ... | 16:13 |
NCommander | [topic] ARM Image Status (ogra, NCommander) | 16:13 |
MootBot | New Topic: ARM Image Status (ogra, NCommander) | 16:13 |
ogra | really bad atm | 16:13 |
GrueMaster | REALLY bad! | 16:13 |
ogra | thanks to final uploads | 16:13 |
GrueMaster | And out of date seed. | 16:14 |
ogra | and due to the fact that our seeds were totally out of sync | 16:14 |
ogra | https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/natty-changes/2011-April/011679.html | 16:14 |
ogra | i uploaded that today | 16:14 |
* GrueMaster weeps | 16:14 | |
ogra | ginn, pitivi, overlay-scrollbars, tsclient and vinagre as well as baobab and brasero will need special attention | 16:15 |
ogra | not sure how to test ginn | 16:15 |
ogra | its a gesture app | 16:15 |
ogra | so try jedi waves in front of your monitor or so | 16:15 |
janimo | wave menacincly at it | 16:15 |
janimo | if it does not break it is good | 16:15 |
ogra | yeah :) | 16:16 |
janimo | apparently ogra and I are from the same school of touch-QA | 16:16 |
GrueMaster | I'm sure I can find a way to break it. | 16:16 |
ogra | GrueMaster, keep that for may please :P | 16:16 |
GrueMaster | :( | 16:17 |
ogra | nothing more (thats bad enough news anyway) | 16:17 |
ogra | NCommander, move unless there are questions | 16:18 |
NCommander | [topic] QA Status (GrueMaster) | 16:18 |
MootBot | New Topic: QA Status (GrueMaster) | 16:18 |
GrueMaster | Not much to report. Currently engaged in getting UCM configured for omap3 (in between massive updates). | 16:18 |
* ogra guesses he's still weeping | 16:18 | |
ogra | ah, no :) | 16:18 |
GrueMaster | Netbook images have been broken last 3 days due to pool churn. | 16:19 |
ogra | wont get better before tomorrow i fear | 16:19 |
GrueMaster | Not much else to report. | 16:19 |
GrueMaster | great. | 16:19 |
* GrueMaster looks forward to another sunny weekend spent testing images in his office. | 16:20 | |
NCommander | [topic] AOB | 16:20 |
MootBot | New Topic: AOB | 16:20 |
ogra | you clearly need a balcony | 16:20 |
rsalveti | a new PVR driver was uploaded at the release PPA | 16:20 |
rsalveti | if you are using gles stuff, please test | 16:21 |
rsalveti | it's faster than previous one | 16:21 |
janimo | rsalveti, will these make the archives ? | 16:21 |
ogra | bug 736081 will be something we'll release with, if you see any weird bugs coming in after release, you should probably think of that one | 16:21 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 736081 in telepathy-glib (Ubuntu Oneiric) "[armel] telepathy-glib segfaults in selftests during build" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/736081 | 16:21 |
rsalveti | janimo: probably not, I still need to incorporate some other changes | 16:21 |
rsalveti | like xrandr and exa optimizations | 16:21 |
ogra | (the title is misleading since its a gcc vs archive issue) | 16:21 |
rsalveti | that are still being developed inside ti | 16:22 |
janimo | rsalveti, ok. Is there no omap4 pvr in the archives now? | 16:22 |
ogra | its in the ppa only | 16:22 |
janimo | ok | 16:22 |
rsalveti | janimo: no, just for omap 3 | 16:22 |
janimo | ogra, do they not upload gcc with the fix for natty? | 16:23 |
GrueMaster | On that, why doesn't that get pulled in on omap3 images? | 16:23 |
ogra | janimo, yes, but the whole archive is built with the option on | 16:23 |
janimo | ogra, ah sure. I think we found the serious ones though | 16:23 |
ogra | janimo, yeah, its just a plea for keeping the eyes open even after release | 16:24 |
ogra | i think the same though | 16:24 |
janimo | do we discuss the BP ideas in tonights team meeting? | 16:24 |
ogra | david was very concerned about it though | 16:24 |
janimo | the examples I saw (3 packages) almost all involved some sort of printf/vararg using functions | 16:25 |
ogra | well, there might be more | 16:25 |
ogra | using that | 16:25 |
janimo | those are frequent but not every package uses them | 16:25 |
ogra | right | 16:25 |
NCommander | anything else or can I close? | 16:27 |
NCommander | going once | 16:27 |
NCommander | twice | 16:27 |
NCommander | three times | 16:27 |
NCommander | #endmeeting | 16:27 |
MootBot | Meeting finished at 10:27. | 16:27 |
ogra | moo | 16:28 |
rsalveti | NCommander: and please, add ppisati at the kernel topic :-) | 16:28 |
ogra | thats what i meant by pointing upwards before :) | 16:29 |
JasonO_ | What is the goal of this team? | 16:41 |
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pitti | mdz, kees: seems it might just be the three of us for today's meeting? | 17:55 |
kees | pitti: it's in another hour, but I guess so? | 17:56 |
pitti | urgh | 17:56 |
kees | utc 1800 | 17:56 |
pitti | that thing seems to get later and later | 17:56 |
pitti | I'm afraid I can't make that, or just for some 15 minutes | 17:57 |
pitti | well, there's nothing on the ML, and nothing on the agenda, so it might actually just take 15 mins :) | 17:57 |
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beardygnome | charlie-tca: are you here? | 18:53 |
sabdfl | evening all | 19:01 |
pitti | good evening | 19:02 |
czajkowski | aloha | 19:02 |
kees | \o | 19:04 |
pitti | no mdz? | 19:06 |
pitti | do we have any topics at all? | 19:06 |
pitti | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TechnicalBoardAgenda | 19:06 |
pitti | Rick's item is done, mdz's too | 19:07 |
pitti | I finished the brainstorm review | 19:07 |
sabdfl | methinks it's all clear | 19:07 |
pitti | I also scanned the ML, nothing new | 19:07 |
pitti | no new community bugs | 19:07 |
sabdfl | ironic, since it's the first meeting i could make in months :-) | 19:07 |
pitti | heh | 19:07 |
pitti | looks like Easter holidays indeed | 19:07 |
kees | heh | 19:08 |
pitti | so, let's just carry this? I need to run now anyway | 19:10 |
sabdfl | that's a wrap | 19:10 |
pitti | I updated the wiki page for 2011-05-05 | 19:10 |
pitti | yay UDS in-person meeting \o/ | 19:11 |
pitti | happy Easter holidays everyone then! | 19:11 |
sabdfl | looking forward to that | 19:11 |
sabdfl | cheers! | 19:11 |
czajkowski | shortest meeting ever | 19:11 |
pitti | heh | 19:12 |
Keybuk | *cough* sorry, timezone | 19:16 |
* charlie-tca waves | 20:01 | |
* micahg waves | 20:03 | |
charlie-tca | Do you remember what mr_pouit thought about changing the meeting day? | 20:06 |
charlie-tca | How many are here for the Xubuntu Community Meeting? | 20:07 |
charlie-tca | micahg: If I can make sure mr_pouit is okay with Mondays, I am going to move the meetings to Monday at 19:00 UTC, I think, starting with the next cycle. | 20:08 |
charlie-tca | Well, for anyone here for the Xubuntu Meeting, we are postponing it. I will send a message to the ML about the rescheduled m,ee | 20:10 |
charlie-tca | meeting | 20:10 |
micahg | charlie-tca: is fine with me, I have a meeting at 17:00/18:00 UTC | 20:10 |
charlie-tca | I haven't actually checked the fridge yet, so that is tentative. It seems to be a good day, though | 20:10 |
micahg | charlie-tca: nope, DMB has that slot every other week | 20:11 |
charlie-tca | The only thing I have for today is discussion of the meeting times, and to announce the Natty is coming out next week. | 20:11 |
charlie-tca | hm, much as I dislike it, maybe move us to 18:00 UTC then? | 20:13 |
micahg | charlie-tca: that will work until the clock changes in the US, then it'll conflict with the security team | 20:14 |
charlie-tca | That s lunch time in Pacific and Mountain time zones, but ... | 20:14 |
pleia2 | pretty much unavoidable | 20:14 |
charlie-tca | I thought security was on UTC? | 20:15 |
micahg | charlie-tca: nope, noon central time US | 20:15 |
charlie-tca | Then it will move with the time changes, won't it? | 20:15 |
charlie-tca | central changes same as the rest of the US | 20:16 |
micahg | charlie-tca: then it'll be 18:00 UTC :) | 20:16 |
charlie-tca | No, we are already in Daylight Saving time, next change we go back one hour | 20:16 |
charlie-tca | oh | 20:16 |
charlie-tca | they stay at noon Central time... | 20:17 |
charlie-tca | Okay, we will take another gander at the time slots | 20:17 |
charlie-tca | Still got 21:00 open | 20:18 |
charlie-tca | Maybe we can switch it around, between 18:00 or 19:00 and 21:00 UTC? | 20:19 |
charlie-tca | Or, if we find a time that works well, I can get a logging bot in #xubuntu-devel and hold them there | 20:20 |
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