=== Ayrton is now known as court_jester === doko_ is now known as doko === yofel_ is now known as yofel === hajour1 is now known as UndiFineD === Quintasan_ is now known as Quintasan === cypher is now known as czajkowski [15:59] #startmeeting [15:59] Meeting started at 09:59. The chair is NCommander. [15:59] Commands Available: [TOPIC], [IDEA], [ACTION], [AGREED], [LINK], [VOTE] [16:00] [link] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MobileTeam/Meeting/2011/20110421 [16:00] LINK received: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MobileTeam/Meeting/2011/20110421 [16:00] * davidm thinks meetings are fun [16:00] who's here? [16:01] cocoroo [16:01] * GrueMaster is semi-conscious. [16:01] [topic] Action Item Review [16:01] New Topic: Action Item Review [16:01] [topic] NCommander to poke cjwatson on soyuz archive skew plan [16:01] New Topic: NCommander to poke cjwatson on soyuz archive skew plan [16:01] Done, got good link on how Debian handles this, will create spec and propose for UDS [16:02] [topic] Standing Items [16:02] New Topic: Standing Items [16:02] * davidm is sleeping in his chair in Austin [16:02] [topic] http://people.canonical.com/~platform/workitems/natty/ubuntu-armel.html [16:02] New Topic: http://people.canonical.com/~platform/workitems/natty/ubuntu-armel.html [16:02] NCommander, fix china :P [16:03] looks good to me [16:03] [topic] Unity 2D Status [16:03] New Topic: Unity 2D Status [16:04] fine [16:04] nothing else to report ... uploaded a package with 20 bugfixes on tue. [16:04] hi [16:04] Latest revision seems to be a good improvement. No issues yet. [16:04] yay [16:04] there are still some known crashers [16:04] but they are SRUed already [16:04] * janimo started using U-2d on the desktop today [16:05] :) [16:05] do you like it ? [16:05] with such revolutionaly interfaces it's hard to tell what is a bug and what is a feature [16:05] it stays out of my weay so I like it [16:05] alt-tab has some funnies, I filed a bug o nit [16:05] it misses some shine and bling but behaves nearly the same as 3D [16:06] I thought I was using 3d until I ran ps ax and after filing the bugreport [16:06] but yeah, hard to know whats a feature and whats a bug atm :) [16:06] and was surprised it did not crash [16:06] now I know it is because it was not the 3d ui :) [16:06] Hi. Is this the Ayatana meeting? [16:06] JasonO, arm [16:06] Can be somewhat irritating having the app menus on the status bar when using a 24" 1080p monitor and windowed apps. [16:06] janimo: no, ARM [16:07] also dual screen may not yet be fully functional [16:07] janimo thnk you [16:07] *thanl [16:07] thank [16:07] I have the panel on the right monitor, in blatant violation of the only Fitt's law I know [16:07] lol [16:08] anyway, move ? [16:08] [topic] Kernel Status (cooloney, rsalveti) [16:08] New Topic: Kernel Status (cooloney, rsalveti) [16:09] not a lot to report on this for this week [16:09] kernel bugs should all be an sru now, and published after the release, as an update [16:09] ppisati_, ^^^ [16:10] NCommander, ^ [16:10] [topic] ARM Porting/FTBFS status (NCommander, janimo) [16:10] New Topic: ARM Porting/FTBFS status (NCommander, janimo) [16:10] I believe the main important bug now is the video sync lost, that ogra and GrueMaster were able to reproduce [16:10] yeah [16:10] nothing to report [16:10] well, there *might* be MMC issues [16:10] I do the usual giving back when new glib/gtk is uploaded [16:10] given the amount of failures GrueMaster has seen [16:10] ogra: yeah, from GrueMaster's report [16:11] ogra: It only affects netbook. [16:11] other than that main looks fine [16:11] GrueMaster, well, maybe there is more IO load on netbook ;) [16:11] while testing I was never able to face these MMC issues, but will try at least more 2, 3 times [16:11] yeah, i havent seen them either === JasonO_ is now known as JasonO [16:12] Oddly enough, most of the errors I have seen have no indication in the logs. [16:12] GrueMaster, do you test with 8 and 16G as well ? (i thought so) [16:12] 4, 8, 16. Class 4, 6, 10 [16:12] k [16:12] just because of the issues on the pandaboard ML [16:13] as long as thats covered ... [16:13] [topic] ARM Image Status (ogra, NCommander) [16:13] New Topic: ARM Image Status (ogra, NCommander) [16:13] really bad atm [16:13] REALLY bad! [16:13] thanks to final uploads [16:14] And out of date seed. [16:14] and due to the fact that our seeds were totally out of sync [16:14] https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/natty-changes/2011-April/011679.html [16:14] i uploaded that today [16:14] * GrueMaster weeps [16:15] ginn, pitivi, overlay-scrollbars, tsclient and vinagre as well as baobab and brasero will need special attention [16:15] not sure how to test ginn [16:15] its a gesture app [16:15] so try jedi waves in front of your monitor or so [16:15] wave menacincly at it [16:15] if it does not break it is good [16:16] yeah :) [16:16] apparently ogra and I are from the same school of touch-QA [16:16] I'm sure I can find a way to break it. [16:16] GrueMaster, keep that for may please :P [16:17] :( [16:17] nothing more (thats bad enough news anyway) [16:18] NCommander, move unless there are questions [16:18] [topic] QA Status (GrueMaster) [16:18] New Topic: QA Status (GrueMaster) [16:18] Not much to report. Currently engaged in getting UCM configured for omap3 (in between massive updates). [16:18] * ogra guesses he's still weeping [16:18] ah, no :) [16:19] Netbook images have been broken last 3 days due to pool churn. [16:19] wont get better before tomorrow i fear [16:19] Not much else to report. [16:19] great. [16:20] * GrueMaster looks forward to another sunny weekend spent testing images in his office. [16:20] [topic] AOB [16:20] New Topic: AOB [16:20] you clearly need a balcony [16:20] a new PVR driver was uploaded at the release PPA [16:21] if you are using gles stuff, please test [16:21] it's faster than previous one [16:21] rsalveti, will these make the archives ? [16:21] bug 736081 will be something we'll release with, if you see any weird bugs coming in after release, you should probably think of that one [16:21] Launchpad bug 736081 in telepathy-glib (Ubuntu Oneiric) "[armel] telepathy-glib segfaults in selftests during build" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/736081 [16:21] janimo: probably not, I still need to incorporate some other changes [16:21] like xrandr and exa optimizations [16:21] (the title is misleading since its a gcc vs archive issue) [16:22] that are still being developed inside ti [16:22] rsalveti, ok. Is there no omap4 pvr in the archives now? [16:22] its in the ppa only [16:22] ok [16:22] janimo: no, just for omap 3 [16:23] ogra, do they not upload gcc with the fix for natty? [16:23] On that, why doesn't that get pulled in on omap3 images? [16:23] janimo, yes, but the whole archive is built with the option on [16:23] ogra, ah sure. I think we found the serious ones though [16:24] janimo, yeah, its just a plea for keeping the eyes open even after release [16:24] i think the same though [16:24] do we discuss the BP ideas in tonights team meeting? [16:24] david was very concerned about it though [16:25] the examples I saw (3 packages) almost all involved some sort of printf/vararg using functions [16:25] well, there might be more [16:25] using that [16:25] those are frequent but not every package uses them [16:25] right [16:27] anything else or can I close? [16:27] going once [16:27] twice [16:27] three times [16:27] #endmeeting [16:27] Meeting finished at 10:27. [16:28] moo [16:28] NCommander: and please, add ppisati at the kernel topic :-) [16:29] thats what i meant by pointing upwards before :) [16:41] What is the goal of this team? === JasonO_ is now known as JasonO === cking is now known as cking-afk [17:55] mdz, kees: seems it might just be the three of us for today's meeting? [17:56] pitti: it's in another hour, but I guess so? [17:56] urgh [17:56] utc 1800 [17:56] that thing seems to get later and later [17:57] I'm afraid I can't make that, or just for some 15 minutes [17:57] well, there's nothing on the ML, and nothing on the agenda, so it might actually just take 15 mins :) === UndiFineD is now known as hajour === hajour is now known as hajour1 [18:53] charlie-tca: are you here? [19:01] evening all [19:02] good evening [19:02] aloha [19:04] \o [19:06] no mdz? [19:06] do we have any topics at all? [19:06] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TechnicalBoardAgenda [19:07] Rick's item is done, mdz's too [19:07] I finished the brainstorm review [19:07] methinks it's all clear [19:07] I also scanned the ML, nothing new [19:07] no new community bugs [19:07] ironic, since it's the first meeting i could make in months :-) [19:07] heh [19:07] looks like Easter holidays indeed [19:08] heh [19:10] so, let's just carry this? I need to run now anyway [19:10] that's a wrap [19:10] I updated the wiki page for 2011-05-05 [19:11] yay UDS in-person meeting \o/ [19:11] happy Easter holidays everyone then! [19:11] looking forward to that [19:11] cheers! [19:11] shortest meeting ever [19:12] heh [19:16] *cough* sorry, timezone [20:01] * charlie-tca waves [20:03] * micahg waves [20:06] Do you remember what mr_pouit thought about changing the meeting day? [20:07] How many are here for the Xubuntu Community Meeting? [20:08] micahg: If I can make sure mr_pouit is okay with Mondays, I am going to move the meetings to Monday at 19:00 UTC, I think, starting with the next cycle. [20:10] Well, for anyone here for the Xubuntu Meeting, we are postponing it. I will send a message to the ML about the rescheduled m,ee [20:10] meeting [20:10] charlie-tca: is fine with me, I have a meeting at 17:00/18:00 UTC [20:10] I haven't actually checked the fridge yet, so that is tentative. It seems to be a good day, though [20:11] charlie-tca: nope, DMB has that slot every other week [20:11] The only thing I have for today is discussion of the meeting times, and to announce the Natty is coming out next week. [20:13] hm, much as I dislike it, maybe move us to 18:00 UTC then? [20:14] charlie-tca: that will work until the clock changes in the US, then it'll conflict with the security team [20:14] That s lunch time in Pacific and Mountain time zones, but ... [20:14] pretty much unavoidable [20:15] I thought security was on UTC? [20:15] charlie-tca: nope, noon central time US [20:15] Then it will move with the time changes, won't it? [20:16] central changes same as the rest of the US [20:16] charlie-tca: then it'll be 18:00 UTC :) [20:16] No, we are already in Daylight Saving time, next change we go back one hour [20:16] oh [20:17] they stay at noon Central time... [20:17] Okay, we will take another gander at the time slots [20:18] Still got 21:00 open [20:19] Maybe we can switch it around, between 18:00 or 19:00 and 21:00 UTC? [20:20] Or, if we find a time that works well, I can get a logging bot in #xubuntu-devel and hold them there === Claudinux_ is now known as Claudinux