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SpamapSjiboumans: pong.. sorry been afk for a bit00:45
SpamapSsmoser: re your "event failed" question.. it means that there was an error starting something that one of the events mountall kicked off00:48
SpamapSsmoser: IIRC mountall doesn't do much in lxc00:48
* ScottK looks in his spamfolder to see if SpamapS' posts to the opendkim mailing list got misplaced.01:44
ScottK!backports01:45
ubottuIf new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they may go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports - See also !packaging01:45
smoserSpamapS's mails always go to my spamfolder01:58
smoserbut that might be because of an explicit rule i have01:58
MTecknologyso... system load >50, is that a lot?.........02:00
twbMTecknology: an ideal system will have a load average of one times the number of CPUs/cores02:09
MTecknologytwb: that had two cores..02:09
MTecknologythe system was chugging; it's our web gateway and filters everything that goes through the proxy02:10
MTecknologyit was...... fun?02:10
SpamapSScottK: I keep getting side tracked trying to reproduce it another way. ;)02:10
twbMTecknology: maybe you should fix that, then02:11
SpamapSScottK: the original poster says 10% .. I've tried at least 100 times and not reproduced. :-/02:11
MTecknologyi 'think' we took care of it for the moment02:11
MTecknologylotta work to do though..02:11
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zulsmoser: efficency at its best right?02:38
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princej88Hi, I am having some trouble trying to port forward my home ubuntu server for free through dyndns.com. can anyone please help?03:34
qman__well, for one, dyndns doesn't forward ports, it points DNS to your dynamic IP automatically03:36
qman__port forwarding is done on your internet facing device, usually a consumer router03:37
princej88I can't use dyndns so that i can access my home ubuntu server from anywhere?03:37
qman__you can, but that's not port forwarding, and it's only part of the process03:38
qman__dyndns makes a name always point to you03:38
qman__letting traffic in to your server is port forwarding, and is done on your router03:38
princej88okay i believe i have done this03:38
princej88i have a netgear router and it has an option for this03:38
princej88so i have selected this option and put iin my host name and username and password03:39
princej88and i have installed ddclient on my server as well. entering in my username and password for dyndns.com etc03:39
qman__that's probably a bad idea, you should only use one or the other03:40
princej88okay so you think i should uninstall ddclient on the server03:40
princej88since my router has an option for this03:40
qman__up to you, whichever device you trust more03:40
princej88i trust the router more i think, so i am going to uninstall ddclient and see if that will do anything03:41
qman__you can test by going to a site such as whatismyip.com and running 'dig mydomain.dyndns.com' on your server03:41
qman__if they return the same IP, it is getting set correctly03:41
princej88okay thanks. let me try this03:41
princej88okay, they are both giving me the same ip address03:42
qman__so the name points to you, next step is to forward ports to your server in your router03:43
qman__for that, depends on what you want to do with the server03:44
HazRPGhey guys \o03:44
princej88okay, what i would like to do is be able to ssh into the server03:44
princej88from an outside internet connection03:44
qman__then you need to forward port 22 tcp to your server's internal IP address03:45
qman__said IP address should be static or at least reserved in DHCP on the router03:45
princej88okay, i see an option static routes on my router03:46
qman__no03:46
qman__your server's networking configuration03:46
qman__should have a static IP set03:46
qman__in the router, you want port forwarding03:46
princej88okay let me look.03:46
qman__and you forward 22 tcp to that IP address03:46
qman__otherwise, that IP could change periodically, and when it does, your port forward will no longer work03:47
princej88oh okay. let me see if i can find this option03:47
qman__see `man interfaces` for details03:48
princej88okay, i have found an option labled port forwarding/ port triggering03:48
qman__as a side note, allowing SSH from the internet is high profile, make sure you have very strong passwords on all your users, or upgrade to key authentication, etc03:48
princej88under that i can add a new custom servive and there is a dropdown list with service names such as age-of-empire, net meeting, news, ftp03:49
princej88does that seem like the right place?03:49
princej88i see a tcp/udp option03:49
qman__probably, every manufacturer does it different03:50
princej88there is a field for starting port and ending port..what exactly would i be putting here03:50
qman__you want port 22 tcp03:50
qman__as for what your specific router wants to do that, I don't know, you'll have to consult the router's manual03:51
princej88okay03:51
m_tadeuprincej88: most probably you'll have to put 22 in start and 22 at the end to set the proper interval03:52
princej88okay. let me try that m_tadeu03:52
HazRPGhmm, I seem to be having a bit of trouble with radvd & IPv6 over IPv4 :/03:53
HazRPGeveryone is getting IPv6 addresses fine, and the server can ping6, but all the clients can't at all03:54
HazRPGthis did work at one point :(03:54
princej88wow, i have gotten this working. thanks so much for the help guys03:55
m_tadeuprincej88: welcome03:57
HazRPGanyone able to lend a helping hand trying to work out whats up?03:57
qman__sorry, I don't know anything about ipv603:58
HazRPGhmm03:59
qman__a bit contradictory since networking and security is my forte, but I just disable it, never needed it03:59
qman__I'm sure I'll take the time to figure it out eventually03:59
HazRPGqman__: ah, well maybe you can help me with another thing then instead, if you don't mind that is :)04:00
qman__as long as it's quick, need to hit the sack soon04:00
HazRPGI'd like to secure my sshd down, and well I've already got one in place on my vps but would be interesting to know if its actually good enough or not04:01
qman__best option is key authentication04:01
qman__and I use limiting in the firewall, it's built into ufw if you use that04:02
qman__if you use straight iptables, look up -m recent04:02
qman__slows brute force attempts rendering them ineffectual04:03
HazRPGI'm pretty new to running/managing a linux server really04:03
qman__well, keys of a decent length are far stronger than passwords04:03
qman__you just need to make sure you don't lose them04:03
HazRPGso far i've got key authentication I think04:03
qman__but the most important thing, by far, is to make sure you don't have any accounts with weak passwords allowed to log in04:04
HazRPGi'll see if i can pull it up04:04
qman__easiest way to prevent that is use keys and disable password authentication in sshd04:04
HazRPGauthorized_keys04:05
HazRPGthats the folder i've used04:05
qman__it's a file, actually04:06
qman__and it stores public keys that are allowed to authenticate as that user04:06
HazRPGah sorry i meant file inside of .ssh ;)04:06
qman__if key authentication is working (sshd doesn't ask for a password), disable password authentication in sshd04:06
qman__and restart sshd04:06
qman__by doing that you eliminate the most common attack vectors04:07
qman__and you only have to worry about losing your keys, or bugs in the software04:07
HazRPGthe ssh key always asks for its password the first time i use it when i boot up, guessing thats normal though?04:07
qman__well, if you protected your key with a passphrase, yes04:08
qman__but that's different from sshd asking for your password04:08
HazRPGbut thats the keychain inside of ubuntu, not the actual terminal04:08
qman__yes04:08
HazRPGyeah :)04:08
qman__bugs do happen though, nothing is foolproof04:08
qman__see the whole debian ssh key generation fiasco04:09
HazRPGright, so if I just disable password... it'll reject all, except key holds, am I right in thinking that?04:09
qman__yes04:09
HazRPGyeah I have read about stuff like that04:09
qman__best protection against that is keeping your software up to date04:10
HazRPGI usually try to keep on top of updates daily, or is that the wrong way to go about things?04:10
qman__daily is a bit much, I set mine weekly04:10
qman__but it depends on your needs04:10
HazRPGits just a habit04:10
HazRPGif I'm logged into the server for irssi, and notice in byobu that there's updates I go check to see what they are and update04:11
qman__best part about open source, when a serious bug in popular software arises, it's usually fixed the same day04:11
qman__and the patches roll out the next04:11
HazRPGyeah I have noticed, which I think is awesome :)04:11
HazRPGI've just migrated my home server to a ubuntu-server... just got so fed up of seeing so many hacking attempts in logs04:12
qman__none of that waiting around for several weeks|months|years you get with proprietary software04:12
HazRPGagreed, there was a bug in windows server that someone kept trying to pin me down with, in the end i just put up some serious firewall rules in place04:13
HazRPGalso, updating apache in windows seems to be harder to do than linux... other reason for the switch over04:13
qman__apache on windows is not a good idea security wise anyway04:14
HazRPGmuch thanks for the advice btw04:15
qman__it's fine for in-house things, but not serving the internet, too many unknowns04:15
HazRPGreally need to chrunch down whats up with my ipv6 now :/04:16
HazRPGI had ubuntu-server in a VM for the last 5 months while I get to grips with operating with it, also started tinkering with IPv6... and it worked fine in that VM04:17
HazRPGserving all computers on the network, but now that i've moved everything onto a pure ubuntu-server based system... it just doesn't seem to be having any of it04:18
HazRPGand i can't see for the life of me why04:18
HazRPGeven the VM (which I kept a backup of) doesn't seem to want to do it anymore either - which doesn't make sense04:18
HazRPGproper "pull your hair out" scenario lol04:19
qman__I've had plenty of those04:19
qman__at least this stuff is all documented04:19
kellnolaevery day :)04:19
HazRPGI've noticed configuring apache seems to be very different to the one I had on windows :/04:20
kellnolait's more organized and easy04:20
qman__at work I deal mostly with windows SBS on overloaded servers, with dozens of proprietary applications04:20
HazRPGseems to have been moved to several files instead of the one file04:20
qman__all poorly documented, if at all04:20
qman__that's the debian way04:21
kellnolaHazRPG, it's far better that way04:21
qman__and I agree, it's far better04:21
kellnolaI HATE having one huge config file, the debian way makes it way easier to script things04:21
HazRPGdon't get me wrong, it does seem better... but its going to take me a fair bit of reading to figure out what needs to go where and why04:21
qman__read up on a2ensite/a2dissite, a2enmod/a2dismod04:22
qman__it makes things really easy04:22
HazRPGwill do04:22
kellnolaactually all Linux's save for a few weird holdouts that no one uses anymore do it this way now04:23
HazRPGI can't believe I managed to get sage on the test for H.E. (IPv6), and yet I can't figure out whats wrong with this thing04:24
HazRPGkellnola: it does make more sense to have individual files to sort through things then to have it all clumped to one file04:25
kellnolait makes mass virtual hosting comprehensible04:25
kellnolafor one04:25
HazRPGmakes managing it a lot easier too04:25
HazRPGkellnola: see, I /sort of/ do that... I have several domains hosted on my own server04:26
kellnolabut debian does that with almost all the major server programs04:28
HazRPGgoing to ask alis to see if there's an ipv6 channel04:29
HazRPGseems there is #ipv6 \o/04:30
patdk-nbhmm?04:57
patdk-nbipv6 issues?04:57
ScottKSpamapS: Then that's a worthy thing to post.05:10
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koolhead11hi all06:28
xampartafter latest update&&safe-upgrade i have duplicate login-message as follows: http://pastebin.com/zteL4tKf06:51
unforgiven512Can somebody help me get apache working correctly? I set up my vhosts, set DocumentRoot to /home/unforgiven512/public_html/site.com06:57
unforgiven512then I did sudo chown -R unforgiven512:www-data ~/public_html/06:57
unforgiven512and sudo chmod -R 0750 ~/public_html?06:57
unforgiven512and I'm still getting a 40306:57
xampartwell ok. i found this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sysvinit/+bug/65973807:07
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 659738 in sysvinit "Duplicate welcome message in motd after upgrade 10.04>10.10" [Medium,Fix released]07:07
xampartthough i didn't upgrade from 10.04 -> 10.10.07:08
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xamparthow can i trace what package update && upgrade did?07:59
joschixampart: /var/log/apt/history.log08:01
joschixampart: if you've been using aptitude probably /var/log/aptitude too08:02
xampartjoschi: ok. so how would i go finding which update (propably initscripts) caused the creation of /etc/motd.tail -file?08:04
xampartok. the culprit is more likely sysvinit-utils08:05
joschixampart: if the file is part of a package and is not created ad hoc, try dpkg -S08:05
pfalconHi guys! Is this a place to ask regarding EC2 ubuntu server support?09:23
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koolhead11pfalcon, explain server support09:32
pfalconkoolhead11: well, I'm from linaro team, we use ec2 for continuous build integration, and this night we had failures like:09:34
pfalconErr http://us-east-1.ec2.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ maverick/main policykit-1-gnome amd64 0.96-2ubuntu409:34
pfalcon  403  Forbidden [IP: 10.202.26.15 80]09:34
pfalconit is cleared by now,09:34
pfalconbut I wanted to make sure that it's known issue and/or fixed09:34
raphinkpfalcon, that looks like an httpd configuration issue on the ec2 apt mirrors09:34
raphinkpfalcon, so it's not a problem on your machine09:36
pfalconraphink: sure, it is not ;-) I exactly wanted to bring that possible misconfig on the server to the attention, if this is right place09:39
raphinkah, right09:39
raphinkI don't know who manages these repositories09:40
pfalconok, just hope it's something like random software upgrade or so09:42
unforgiven512Anyone around?10:10
unforgiven512On Ubuntu Server 10.04, is the proper method of starting a service "sudo /etc/init.d/mysql start" or "sudo service mysql start" ?10:10
unforgiven512Also, mysql is not autostarting at boot time, and I can not figure out why.10:11
raphinkunforgiven512, most init.d scripts are wrappers to service now10:11
raphinkthe proper method is server start10:12
daxrocMorning all10:12
raphinkservice start10:12
raphinksorry10:12
raphinkhi daxroc10:12
daxrocHow do I completly remove a package and it's binarys10:12
unforgiven512Alright, thanks.10:12
raphinkapt-get remove --purge10:12
unforgiven512Now, may I ask, why am I having issues getting it to automatically run at boot?10:12
unforgiven512And, if I do "sudo service mysql start"10:12
unforgiven512then "sudo service --status-all"10:13
unforgiven512mysql still has a [?] instead of [+] (or [-] for that matter)10:13
raphinkwe have issues with the mysql upstart conf here too10:15
raphinkin lucid10:15
unforgiven512hmm10:15
raphinkwe've often replaced it with a traditional init script10:15
unforgiven512It's frustrating D=10:16
raphinkupstart can be very frustrating indeed10:16
unforgiven512Should I do sudo dpkg-reconfigure mysql-server ?10:19
raphinkI don't think it will solve the issue10:20
unforgiven512Hmm10:21
unforgiven512I have two interfaces with the address "127.0.0.1" for some odd reason10:24
unforgiven512And, having MySQL bind to 127.0.0.1, could that be creating the issue?10:24
unforgiven512lo, and venet010:24
joschiunforgiven512: openvz/virtuozzo virtualization. venet0 shouldn't have 127.0.0.1 assigned, IMHO10:48
unforgiven512venet0 is 127.0.0.1, venet0:0 is (my actual IP)10:51
unforgiven512the only interface that should be assigned 127.0.0.1 is lo, correct?10:52
elijahshhi! I'm trying to enable sound on ubuntu server 10.10 with internal audio from D510MO board. But lspci don't show any audio devices. How to enables sound?11:25
HazRPGprobably wrong place to ask this, but worth a shot... having trouble with ubuntu-server 10.04.2 running minecraft server 1.5_0211:48
HazRPG(vanilla minecraft server)11:48
HazRPGits fine for walking around, but the minute you try to do anything, it kicks them out throwing some java exception stuff11:48
twbMaybe it wants OracleTM Java?11:53
jMCgHazRPG: usually, when you say "exception", but don't provide the exception and the stack trace you're just wasting bandwidth.12:51
jMCg"Server logs error"12:51
jMCg"stuff doesn't work"12:51
jMCg"nobody cares"12:51
HazRPGyeah12:52
HazRPGits fine, think I got it working12:52
HazRPGseems it was a client-side issue more than server side12:52
jMCgYeah. 's all well. But: *what* issue?12:53
e-DIO-tHi. Ubuntu Server 10.04.1 Alternate over IBM xSeries 226 with HWRaid. Any idea about how to work around so it would boot even if I don't use "Boot from first Hard Drive" from live-cd ?13:42
xamparte-DIO-t: what do you mean?13:46
RoyKe-DIO-t: remove the CD13:47
e-DIO-txampart: i mean -> if i try to boot from first hard disk [from boot options] it simply "stops" on a flashing cursor. If i boot from CD and then i give the install option "boot from first hard disk", linux boots13:48
xampartwe had a firmware issue on our ibm-machine13:48
xamparthad to update-initramfs after installation. aic94xx-seq.fw was the file, iirc13:49
e-DIO-tty, i'll give a try13:50
xampartyou should check the logs first oc13:50
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melterdoes canonical have a long-term commitment to ubuntu server?14:01
RoAkSoAxmorning all14:09
pmatulismelter: there is the LTS release14:09
pmatulis!LTS | melter14:09
ubottumelter: LTS means Long Term Support. LTS versions of Ubuntu will be supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server. The current LTS version of Ubuntu is !Lucid (Lucid Lynx 10.04)14:09
melterpmatulis: i'm concerned about future releases, specifically after reading http://www.zdnet.com/blog/open-source/ubuntu-linux-1104s-target-audience-casual-windows-users/872314:11
melteri do software development on the desktop and deploy on server, and running different distributions causes problems with different software packages, versions, etc.14:12
melteri'm just 1 developer on a small, non-profit project. i used red hat til they started to charge, switched to gentoo until it collapsed, switched to ubuntu, and now i'm worried all over again14:13
jamespageDaviey: around?14:16
Davieyjamespage, o/14:16
jamespageDaviey: time for a quick euca query?14:16
Davieyjamespage, always for you!14:18
jamespageta - so I'm looking at a 11.04 upgrade bug report - bug 76698314:18
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 766983 in eucalyptus "package eucalyptus-java-common 2.0.1 bzr1256-0ubuntu4 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/76698314:18
* Daviey reads14:18
jamespageIts a maverick->natty upgrade - however it looks like the code in the postinst script is running; I think that it should only do that for upgrade pre maverick.14:19
jamespagehowever it all looks a little odd14:19
Davieyjamespage, oh golly14:19
Davieynot seen that one before14:19
jamespagelike there was a previous upgrade that failed or something14:19
Davieyjamespage, maverick -> natty, that should not happen14:20
jamespageDaviey: yeah - thats what I thought.14:20
Davieylucid to maverick (or *direct* to natty)14:20
jamespageif a lucid->maverick upgrade failed previously would you see this type of behaviour?14:21
Davieyjamespage, he would have seen that behaviour since he done it14:23
Davieyjamespage, https://launchpadlibrarian.net/69995794/DpkgTerminalLog.txt <-- machine looks *really* dirty14:23
jamespageoh yes - I'm not that worried by this report as a result :-)14:23
* jamespage thinks it may have already been broken pre-upgrade14:24
Davieyjamespage, My hunch is that it is upgrade from lucid directly to natty...14:25
Davieyjamespage, really, not much that can be done without reproducing it on a clean machine.  If it was my machine, i'd force the postinst to exit 0.. backup the db, see if euca works and/or run the db upgrade script myself14:26
DavieyHmm14:26
DavieyThis machine seems to be a walrus controller only14:27
jamespageYeah - its all a bit weird and its also a generic kernel which would indicate that its a desktop install, not a server14:27
Davieyjamespage, hmm... he doesn't seem to have euca'-common installed14:29
* Daviey checks stuff14:29
jamespageDaviey: don't do to much now; I'm going to see if the reporting can tell us a bit more; upgrade paths, was it working pre-upgrade etc..14:30
Davieyjamespage, find out if he has euca'-common installed aswell please?14:31
Daviey(he should have)14:32
jamespageDaviey: ack14:36
Davieyjamespage, infact, a full package list would help :)14:36
Davieyand a pony.14:37
HazRPGjMCg: Client side issue, as in the minecraft client... I deleted it, downloaded it again from minecraft.net and it worked like a charm... problem wasn't in the server, the problem must have been in a bad update of the minecraft client.14:49
HazRPGSorry, been trying to get apache to work properly14:49
HazRPGfinally got that sorted out too14:50
HazRPGI put in some custom log file to point to /var/log/apache/<website>/access.log (etc)14:50
HazRPGbut forgot to make the <website> folder14:51
HazRPGand mysql working like a charm first time round :)14:51
HazRPGnow to just migrate all my windows stuff over to my ubuntu box :D14:51
HazRPGfinally glad to be rid of windows14:51
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mdlueckIs there anyway to see the entire kernel build number of a package visible in Aptitude? The screen shows me 2.6.32-31. and chops the remainder of the build number.15:25
mdlueckWithout actually downloading / installing said kernel package.15:25
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mdlueckBy viewing the change log for the package I was able to see that it is indeed 2.6.32-31.61 build. That is way tooooo hard in Aptitude.15:33
Picimdlueck: Both apt-cache show and apt-cache policy tell me that.15:35
mdlueckPici: But Aptitude truncates the number and makes it very hard to be SURE which version you are selected upon.15:36
jamespagehggdh: around?15:52
koolhead11hey kim0 :D15:59
kim0koolhead11: hey16:00
koolhead11kim0, wassup :)16:00
kim0hehe going good .. how about you16:00
koolhead11am awesome16:01
kim0koolhead11: that's the way we like it ;)16:01
koolhead11kim0, pm ?16:01
kim0yeah sure16:02
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uvirtbotNew bug: #766242 in cloud-init "lp:ubuntu/cloud-init is not buildable by bzr-builder" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/76624216:27
azeryuhello there16:55
azeryuwho know about nagios ?16:55
CrunchyChewiequick: Fail2Ban or DenyHosts ?16:56
jpdsazeryu: Yes, what's the question?16:56
azeryui just followed this tutorial on installing nagios16:57
jpdsCrunchyChewie: Whichever you prefer.16:58
azeryuhttp://kedar.nitty-witty.com/blog/10-steps-mysql-monitoring-nagios-installation-configuration16:58
azeryui got apache with vhost16:59
azeryuwhen i compile nagios package16:59
jpdsWhy are you compiling nagios, when there's a prefectly good package in the archive?17:00
azeryuonce after the compile on the tutorial they ask to point to localhost/nagios17:00
azeryuwithout saying where is the webroot folder17:01
jpdsazeryu: Try using a guide for Ubuntu (and not RPM-based): https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/C/nagios.html17:02
azeryuhow to uncompile ?17:03
RoyKazeryu: rm -rf /usr/local/nagios17:04
RoyKit won't "uncompile", but it'll remove the old stuff17:04
azeryubut on /etc17:05
azeryui got lots of config17:05
azeryui want to remove it too ?17:05
azeryuthere is no way to uncompile ?17:05
RoyKazeryu: did you compile it with standard settings?17:05
RoyKas in just a ./configure && make all install ?17:05
azeryuhttp://kedar.nitty-witty.com/blog/10-steps-mysql-monitoring-nagios-installation-configuration17:06
RoyKif so, there shouldn't be anything under /etc17:06
azeryui just followed that tutorial17:06
azeryuyes17:06
RoyKshouldn't be anything under install, then17:06
azeryubut there are things under /etc17:06
azeryui got two folder17:07
RoyKthe nagios bits are under /usr/local/nagios/etc17:07
azeryuon /etc17:07
RoyKthere might be apache bits there, but that's different17:07
azeryu /etc/nagios3 and /etc/nagios-plugin17:07
jpdsazeryu: Use something like https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/C/etckeeper.html in future.17:07
RoyKif it's a dedicated nagios server, and you worry about how to clean up, just reinstall the box17:07
* RoyK has left nagios for icinga - nagios development halted some 4-5 years back and all focus is now on nagios IV, which is commercial, and thus not very interesting17:08
azeryuicinga17:09
RoyKstupid name, but better code17:09
RoyKa fork17:09
azeryuicinga17:09
azeryuicinga is better than nagios  ?17:09
RoyKit's a nagios fork, and I find it better17:10
RoyKlooks a lot better too :)17:10
ap0cicinga ?17:10
RoyKand with the same interfaces, so plugins works17:10
ap0cRoyK: i haven't used the default css in nagios for years now17:10
RoyKap0c: http://tinyurl.com/3oaactz17:11
ap0cha17:11
RoyKthere is CSS in Nagios?17:11
ap0clmgtfy17:11
azeryu#icinga17:12
RoyKaye17:12
RoAkSoAxsmoser: Finally had the time to work on  publish-image \again and I've changed the approach though I think can be improved even more: http://paste.ubuntu.com/596710/17:25
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* RoAkSoAx off to lunch17:46
jMCgDo you guys recommend linux-image-virtual or linux-image-server as kernel for a KVM guest (which acts as a server..)?18:54
quesoIf I have enabled the root account by giving it a password, and I now want to disable it again, should I use passwd -l or passwd -d ?19:00
kirklandRoAkSoAx: remind me where/how we the list of ubuntu releases for testdrive?19:00
jMCgqueso: passwd -l locks it. That's bad, because it would probably prevent all the cronjobs from working which are run under root.19:01
quesojMCg: ha, good point.  so passwd -d will bring it back to the way it was?19:02
RoyKyou can't go back to what it was19:03
jMCghrm...19:03
RoyKunless you have a backup of /etc/passwd19:03
jMCgqueso: okay. I'm talking out of my ass.19:03
jMCgqueso: that's true for Solaris, but my default Ubuntu install looks like this: galic@knock ~ % sudo getent shadow root19:03
jMCgroot:!:15050:0:99999:7:::19:03
jMCgqueso: so -l is fine then.19:03
quesoOkay, let me ask again. After enabling root by giving it a password, what is the appropriate way to disable it?19:04
quesopasswd -l19:06
DelemasjMCg, linux-image-virtual is better suited to a KVM guest...19:07
kirklandRoAkSoAx: also, i doesn't look to me like powerwake-now is working19:21
jMCgDelemas: is there somewhere a sane listing of difference between the kernel flavours?19:22
DelemasSure diff the config files...19:22
jMCgDelemas: please re-read my question: I said "sane" :)19:23
Delemasheh you don't get any more sane what of getting differences in configuration than looking at the files that describe that configuration...19:24
jMCgYou might be right. I'll think about this on my ride home. Right now I'm just really happy the whole thing survived a reboot and works as I want it to work.19:27
uvirtbotNew bug: #768506 in samba (main) "CIFS VFS Server is slowing down shutdown" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/76850619:31
RoAkSoAxkirkland> RoAkSoAx: remind me where/how we the list of ubuntu releases for testdrive? -> huh?19:59
RoAkSoAxkirkland: is there an specific test case for powerwake-now?20:00
RoAkSoAxso that I can reproduce20:00
RoAkSoAx(sorry was having lunch and not having a car means a lot of walking ) :)20:00
deadsmithDoes anyone know about grub2 on UEFI XServe machines?  For example, is 10.10 Server running a version that should boot on the machine?20:53
quesoHow do I re-generate the MOTD?21:06
genii-aroundInteresting. Searching for /var/run/motd on packages.ubuntu.com produces no package21:19
RoyKit's not installed21:22
RoyKit's generated over time21:22
quesoRoyK: So how do I regenerate it? :)21:29
RoyKit's generated/updated once someone logs in21:32
quesooh, then I must have broke something 'cause the motd is messed up21:32
RoyKoh21:32
RoyKmotd21:32
quesoI installed etckeeper, maybe that has something to do with it.21:32
RoyKsorry21:32
RoyKno, motd is generated by the scripts in /etc/update-motd.d/21:33
RoyKI was thinking of something else21:34
RoyKwtmp things21:34
quesofor some reason it's displaying the current motd, then after that an old motd..21:35
quesoevery time I log in21:35
RoyKwhich distro version?21:36
quesolucid server21:36
RoyKfunny - works well for me21:37
quesohmm, there's a /etc/motd.tail  that has the old motd info.  when I delete it then it's good.  dunno where that came from.21:40
Delemasqueso, I saw that today too...21:43
DelemasSomeone else already started a bug report.21:43
RoyKqueso: I guess you upgraded to lucid21:51
RoyKqueso: I've seen the .tail file hanging off after upgrades, without me making it in the first place21:51
DelemasRoyK, This wasn't the case here. All my 10.04 servers (fresh installs) today ended up with a static version of /etc/motd in /etc/motd.tail from two days ago.21:55
RoAkSoAxsmoser: where you able to check the diff for publish-build?22:10
smoserRoAkSoAx, sorry. completely forgot22:10
smoserlink again?22:10
* RoAkSoAx looks22:11
RoAkSoAxsmoser:   http://paste.ubuntu.com/597150/22:12
RoAkSoAxSpamapS:ping?22:18
goddardi got something really odd going on.  When I login to my ubuntu server it displays the system information like normal but it has two sets of system information  and the second set is different from the first...whats going on? any ideas?22:54
giovanigoddard: is the timestamp on both printouts the same?22:55
goddardno22:56
goddardone is a day before22:57
goddardwhat does that mean?22:57
goddardI have two servers and the other server doesn't display information for two days22:58
goddardgiovani any idea23:16

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