[00:45] <SpamapS> jiboumans: pong.. sorry been afk for a bit
[00:48] <SpamapS> smoser: re your "event failed" question.. it means that there was an error starting something that one of the events mountall kicked off
[00:48] <SpamapS> smoser: IIRC mountall doesn't do much in lxc
[01:44]  * ScottK looks in his spamfolder to see if SpamapS' posts to the opendkim mailing list got misplaced.
[01:45] <ScottK> !backports
[01:58] <smoser> SpamapS's mails always go to my spamfolder
[01:58] <smoser> but that might be because of an explicit rule i have
[02:00] <MTecknology> so... system load >50, is that a lot?.........
[02:09] <twb> MTecknology: an ideal system will have a load average of one times the number of CPUs/cores
[02:09] <MTecknology> twb: that had two cores..
[02:10] <MTecknology> the system was chugging; it's our web gateway and filters everything that goes through the proxy
[02:10] <MTecknology> it was...... fun?
[02:10] <SpamapS> ScottK: I keep getting side tracked trying to reproduce it another way. ;)
[02:11] <twb> MTecknology: maybe you should fix that, then
[02:11] <SpamapS> ScottK: the original poster says 10% .. I've tried at least 100 times and not reproduced. :-/
[02:11] <MTecknology> i 'think' we took care of it for the moment
[02:11] <MTecknology> lotta work to do though..
[02:12]  * SpamapS fades back into the darkness
[02:38] <zul> smoser: efficency at its best right?
[03:34] <princej88> Hi, I am having some trouble trying to port forward my home ubuntu server for free through dyndns.com. can anyone please help?
[03:36] <qman__> well, for one, dyndns doesn't forward ports, it points DNS to your dynamic IP automatically
[03:37] <qman__> port forwarding is done on your internet facing device, usually a consumer router
[03:37] <princej88> I can't use dyndns so that i can access my home ubuntu server from anywhere?
[03:38] <qman__> you can, but that's not port forwarding, and it's only part of the process
[03:38] <qman__> dyndns makes a name always point to you
[03:38] <qman__> letting traffic in to your server is port forwarding, and is done on your router
[03:38] <princej88> okay i believe i have done this
[03:38] <princej88> i have a netgear router and it has an option for this
[03:39] <princej88> so i have selected this option and put iin my host name and username and password
[03:39] <princej88> and i have installed ddclient on my server as well. entering in my username and password for dyndns.com etc
[03:40] <qman__> that's probably a bad idea, you should only use one or the other
[03:40] <princej88> okay so you think i should uninstall ddclient on the server
[03:40] <princej88> since my router has an option for this
[03:40] <qman__> up to you, whichever device you trust more
[03:41] <princej88> i trust the router more i think, so i am going to uninstall ddclient and see if that will do anything
[03:41] <qman__> you can test by going to a site such as whatismyip.com and running 'dig mydomain.dyndns.com' on your server
[03:41] <qman__> if they return the same IP, it is getting set correctly
[03:41] <princej88> okay thanks. let me try this
[03:42] <princej88> okay, they are both giving me the same ip address
[03:43] <qman__> so the name points to you, next step is to forward ports to your server in your router
[03:44] <qman__> for that, depends on what you want to do with the server
[03:44] <HazRPG> hey guys \o
[03:44] <princej88> okay, what i would like to do is be able to ssh into the server
[03:44] <princej88> from an outside internet connection
[03:45] <qman__> then you need to forward port 22 tcp to your server's internal IP address
[03:45] <qman__> said IP address should be static or at least reserved in DHCP on the router
[03:46] <princej88> okay, i see an option static routes on my router
[03:46] <qman__> no
[03:46] <qman__> your server's networking configuration
[03:46] <qman__> should have a static IP set
[03:46] <qman__> in the router, you want port forwarding
[03:46] <princej88> okay let me look.
[03:46] <qman__> and you forward 22 tcp to that IP address
[03:47] <qman__> otherwise, that IP could change periodically, and when it does, your port forward will no longer work
[03:47] <princej88> oh okay. let me see if i can find this option
[03:48] <qman__> see `man interfaces` for details
[03:48] <princej88> okay, i have found an option labled port forwarding/ port triggering
[03:48] <qman__> as a side note, allowing SSH from the internet is high profile, make sure you have very strong passwords on all your users, or upgrade to key authentication, etc
[03:49] <princej88> under that i can add a new custom servive and there is a dropdown list with service names such as age-of-empire, net meeting, news, ftp
[03:49] <princej88> does that seem like the right place?
[03:49] <princej88> i see a tcp/udp option
[03:50] <qman__> probably, every manufacturer does it different
[03:50] <princej88> there is a field for starting port and ending port..what exactly would i be putting here
[03:50] <qman__> you want port 22 tcp
[03:51] <qman__> as for what your specific router wants to do that, I don't know, you'll have to consult the router's manual
[03:51] <princej88> okay
[03:52] <m_tadeu> princej88: most probably you'll have to put 22 in start and 22 at the end to set the proper interval
[03:52] <princej88> okay. let me try that m_tadeu
[03:53] <HazRPG> hmm, I seem to be having a bit of trouble with radvd & IPv6 over IPv4 :/
[03:54] <HazRPG> everyone is getting IPv6 addresses fine, and the server can ping6, but all the clients can't at all
[03:54] <HazRPG> this did work at one point :(
[03:55] <princej88> wow, i have gotten this working. thanks so much for the help guys
[03:57] <m_tadeu> princej88: welcome
[03:57] <HazRPG> anyone able to lend a helping hand trying to work out whats up?
[03:58] <qman__> sorry, I don't know anything about ipv6
[03:59] <HazRPG> hmm
[03:59] <qman__> a bit contradictory since networking and security is my forte, but I just disable it, never needed it
[03:59] <qman__> I'm sure I'll take the time to figure it out eventually
[04:00] <HazRPG> qman__: ah, well maybe you can help me with another thing then instead, if you don't mind that is :)
[04:00] <qman__> as long as it's quick, need to hit the sack soon
[04:01] <HazRPG> I'd like to secure my sshd down, and well I've already got one in place on my vps but would be interesting to know if its actually good enough or not
[04:01] <qman__> best option is key authentication
[04:02] <qman__> and I use limiting in the firewall, it's built into ufw if you use that
[04:02] <qman__> if you use straight iptables, look up -m recent
[04:03] <qman__> slows brute force attempts rendering them ineffectual
[04:03] <HazRPG> I'm pretty new to running/managing a linux server really
[04:03] <qman__> well, keys of a decent length are far stronger than passwords
[04:03] <qman__> you just need to make sure you don't lose them
[04:03] <HazRPG> so far i've got key authentication I think
[04:04] <qman__> but the most important thing, by far, is to make sure you don't have any accounts with weak passwords allowed to log in
[04:04] <HazRPG> i'll see if i can pull it up
[04:04] <qman__> easiest way to prevent that is use keys and disable password authentication in sshd
[04:05] <HazRPG> authorized_keys
[04:05] <HazRPG> thats the folder i've used
[04:06] <qman__> it's a file, actually
[04:06] <qman__> and it stores public keys that are allowed to authenticate as that user
[04:06] <HazRPG> ah sorry i meant file inside of .ssh ;)
[04:06] <qman__> if key authentication is working (sshd doesn't ask for a password), disable password authentication in sshd
[04:06] <qman__> and restart sshd
[04:07] <qman__> by doing that you eliminate the most common attack vectors
[04:07] <qman__> and you only have to worry about losing your keys, or bugs in the software
[04:07] <HazRPG> the ssh key always asks for its password the first time i use it when i boot up, guessing thats normal though?
[04:08] <qman__> well, if you protected your key with a passphrase, yes
[04:08] <qman__> but that's different from sshd asking for your password
[04:08] <HazRPG> but thats the keychain inside of ubuntu, not the actual terminal
[04:08] <qman__> yes
[04:08] <HazRPG> yeah :)
[04:08] <qman__> bugs do happen though, nothing is foolproof
[04:09] <qman__> see the whole debian ssh key generation fiasco
[04:09] <HazRPG> right, so if I just disable password... it'll reject all, except key holds, am I right in thinking that?
[04:09] <qman__> yes
[04:09] <HazRPG> yeah I have read about stuff like that
[04:10] <qman__> best protection against that is keeping your software up to date
[04:10] <HazRPG> I usually try to keep on top of updates daily, or is that the wrong way to go about things?
[04:10] <qman__> daily is a bit much, I set mine weekly
[04:10] <qman__> but it depends on your needs
[04:10] <HazRPG> its just a habit
[04:11] <HazRPG> if I'm logged into the server for irssi, and notice in byobu that there's updates I go check to see what they are and update
[04:11] <qman__> best part about open source, when a serious bug in popular software arises, it's usually fixed the same day
[04:11] <qman__> and the patches roll out the next
[04:11] <HazRPG> yeah I have noticed, which I think is awesome :)
[04:12] <HazRPG> I've just migrated my home server to a ubuntu-server... just got so fed up of seeing so many hacking attempts in logs
[04:12] <qman__> none of that waiting around for several weeks|months|years you get with proprietary software
[04:13] <HazRPG> agreed, there was a bug in windows server that someone kept trying to pin me down with, in the end i just put up some serious firewall rules in place
[04:13] <HazRPG> also, updating apache in windows seems to be harder to do than linux... other reason for the switch over
[04:14] <qman__> apache on windows is not a good idea security wise anyway
[04:15] <HazRPG> much thanks for the advice btw
[04:15] <qman__> it's fine for in-house things, but not serving the internet, too many unknowns
[04:16] <HazRPG> really need to chrunch down whats up with my ipv6 now :/
[04:17] <HazRPG> I had ubuntu-server in a VM for the last 5 months while I get to grips with operating with it, also started tinkering with IPv6... and it worked fine in that VM
[04:18] <HazRPG> serving all computers on the network, but now that i've moved everything onto a pure ubuntu-server based system... it just doesn't seem to be having any of it
[04:18] <HazRPG> and i can't see for the life of me why
[04:18] <HazRPG> even the VM (which I kept a backup of) doesn't seem to want to do it anymore either - which doesn't make sense
[04:19] <HazRPG> proper "pull your hair out" scenario lol
[04:19] <qman__> I've had plenty of those
[04:19] <qman__> at least this stuff is all documented
[04:19] <kellnola> every day :)
[04:20] <HazRPG> I've noticed configuring apache seems to be very different to the one I had on windows :/
[04:20] <kellnola> it's more organized and easy
[04:20] <qman__> at work I deal mostly with windows SBS on overloaded servers, with dozens of proprietary applications
[04:20] <HazRPG> seems to have been moved to several files instead of the one file
[04:20] <qman__> all poorly documented, if at all
[04:21] <qman__> that's the debian way
[04:21] <kellnola> HazRPG, it's far better that way
[04:21] <qman__> and I agree, it's far better
[04:21] <kellnola> I HATE having one huge config file, the debian way makes it way easier to script things
[04:21] <HazRPG> don't get me wrong, it does seem better... but its going to take me a fair bit of reading to figure out what needs to go where and why
[04:22] <qman__> read up on a2ensite/a2dissite, a2enmod/a2dismod
[04:22] <qman__> it makes things really easy
[04:22] <HazRPG> will do
[04:23] <kellnola> actually all Linux's save for a few weird holdouts that no one uses anymore do it this way now
[04:24] <HazRPG> I can't believe I managed to get sage on the test for H.E. (IPv6), and yet I can't figure out whats wrong with this thing
[04:25] <HazRPG> kellnola: it does make more sense to have individual files to sort through things then to have it all clumped to one file
[04:25] <kellnola> it makes mass virtual hosting comprehensible
[04:25] <kellnola> for one
[04:25] <HazRPG> makes managing it a lot easier too
[04:26] <HazRPG> kellnola: see, I /sort of/ do that... I have several domains hosted on my own server
[04:28] <kellnola> but debian does that with almost all the major server programs
[04:29] <HazRPG> going to ask alis to see if there's an ipv6 channel
[04:30] <HazRPG> seems there is #ipv6 \o/
[04:57] <patdk-nb> hmm?
[04:57] <patdk-nb> ipv6 issues?
[05:10] <ScottK> SpamapS: Then that's a worthy thing to post.
[06:28] <koolhead11> hi all
[06:51] <xampart> after latest update&&safe-upgrade i have duplicate login-message as follows: http://pastebin.com/zteL4tKf
[06:57] <unforgiven512> Can somebody help me get apache working correctly? I set up my vhosts, set DocumentRoot to /home/unforgiven512/public_html/site.com
[06:57] <unforgiven512> then I did sudo chown -R unforgiven512:www-data ~/public_html/
[06:57] <unforgiven512> and sudo chmod -R 0750 ~/public_html?
[06:57] <unforgiven512> and I'm still getting a 403
[07:07] <xampart> well ok. i found this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sysvinit/+bug/659738
[07:08] <xampart> though i didn't upgrade from 10.04 -> 10.10.
[07:59] <xampart> how can i trace what package update && upgrade did?
[08:01] <joschi> xampart: /var/log/apt/history.log
[08:02] <joschi> xampart: if you've been using aptitude probably /var/log/aptitude too
[08:04] <xampart> joschi: ok. so how would i go finding which update (propably initscripts) caused the creation of /etc/motd.tail -file?
[08:05] <xampart> ok. the culprit is more likely sysvinit-utils
[08:05] <joschi> xampart: if the file is part of a package and is not created ad hoc, try dpkg -S
[09:23] <pfalcon> Hi guys! Is this a place to ask regarding EC2 ubuntu server support?
[09:32] <koolhead11> pfalcon, explain server support
[09:34] <pfalcon> koolhead11: well, I'm from linaro team, we use ec2 for continuous build integration, and this night we had failures like:
[09:34] <pfalcon> Err http://us-east-1.ec2.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ maverick/main policykit-1-gnome amd64 0.96-2ubuntu4
[09:34] <pfalcon>   403  Forbidden [IP: 10.202.26.15 80]
[09:34] <pfalcon> it is cleared by now,
[09:34] <pfalcon> but I wanted to make sure that it's known issue and/or fixed
[09:34] <raphink> pfalcon, that looks like an httpd configuration issue on the ec2 apt mirrors
[09:36] <raphink> pfalcon, so it's not a problem on your machine
[09:39] <pfalcon> raphink: sure, it is not ;-) I exactly wanted to bring that possible misconfig on the server to the attention, if this is right place
[09:39] <raphink> ah, right
[09:40] <raphink> I don't know who manages these repositories
[09:42] <pfalcon> ok, just hope it's something like random software upgrade or so
[10:10] <unforgiven512> Anyone around?
[10:10] <unforgiven512> On Ubuntu Server 10.04, is the proper method of starting a service "sudo /etc/init.d/mysql start" or "sudo service mysql start" ?
[10:11] <unforgiven512> Also, mysql is not autostarting at boot time, and I can not figure out why.
[10:11] <raphink> unforgiven512, most init.d scripts are wrappers to service now
[10:12] <raphink> the proper method is server start
[10:12] <daxroc> Morning all
[10:12] <raphink> service start
[10:12] <raphink> sorry
[10:12] <raphink> hi daxroc
[10:12] <daxroc> How do I completly remove a package and it's binarys
[10:12] <unforgiven512> Alright, thanks.
[10:12] <raphink> apt-get remove --purge
[10:12] <unforgiven512> Now, may I ask, why am I having issues getting it to automatically run at boot?
[10:12] <unforgiven512> And, if I do "sudo service mysql start"
[10:13] <unforgiven512> then "sudo service --status-all"
[10:13] <unforgiven512> mysql still has a [?] instead of [+] (or [-] for that matter)
[10:15] <raphink> we have issues with the mysql upstart conf here too
[10:15] <raphink> in lucid
[10:15] <unforgiven512> hmm
[10:15] <raphink> we've often replaced it with a traditional init script
[10:16] <unforgiven512> It's frustrating D=
[10:16] <raphink> upstart can be very frustrating indeed
[10:19] <unforgiven512> Should I do sudo dpkg-reconfigure mysql-server ?
[10:20] <raphink> I don't think it will solve the issue
[10:21] <unforgiven512> Hmm
[10:24] <unforgiven512> I have two interfaces with the address "127.0.0.1" for some odd reason
[10:24] <unforgiven512> And, having MySQL bind to 127.0.0.1, could that be creating the issue?
[10:24] <unforgiven512> lo, and venet0
[10:48] <joschi> unforgiven512: openvz/virtuozzo virtualization. venet0 shouldn't have 127.0.0.1 assigned, IMHO
[10:51] <unforgiven512> venet0 is 127.0.0.1, venet0:0 is (my actual IP)
[10:52] <unforgiven512> the only interface that should be assigned 127.0.0.1 is lo, correct?
[11:25] <elijahsh> hi! I'm trying to enable sound on ubuntu server 10.10 with internal audio from D510MO board. But lspci don't show any audio devices. How to enables sound?
[11:48] <HazRPG> probably wrong place to ask this, but worth a shot... having trouble with ubuntu-server 10.04.2 running minecraft server 1.5_02
[11:48] <HazRPG> (vanilla minecraft server)
[11:48] <HazRPG> its fine for walking around, but the minute you try to do anything, it kicks them out throwing some java exception stuff
[11:53] <twb> Maybe it wants OracleTM Java?
[12:51] <jMCg> HazRPG: usually, when you say "exception", but don't provide the exception and the stack trace you're just wasting bandwidth.
[12:51] <jMCg> "Server logs error"
[12:51] <jMCg> "stuff doesn't work"
[12:51] <jMCg> "nobody cares"
[12:52] <HazRPG> yeah
[12:52] <HazRPG> its fine, think I got it working
[12:52] <HazRPG> seems it was a client-side issue more than server side
[12:53] <jMCg> Yeah. 's all well. But: *what* issue?
[13:42] <e-DIO-t> Hi. Ubuntu Server 10.04.1 Alternate over IBM xSeries 226 with HWRaid. Any idea about how to work around so it would boot even if I don't use "Boot from first Hard Drive" from live-cd ?
[13:46] <xampart> e-DIO-t: what do you mean?
[13:47] <RoyK> e-DIO-t: remove the CD
[13:48] <e-DIO-t> xampart: i mean -> if i try to boot from first hard disk [from boot options] it simply "stops" on a flashing cursor. If i boot from CD and then i give the install option "boot from first hard disk", linux boots
[13:48] <xampart> we had a firmware issue on our ibm-machine
[13:49] <xampart> had to update-initramfs after installation. aic94xx-seq.fw was the file, iirc
[13:50] <e-DIO-t> ty, i'll give a try
[13:50] <xampart> you should check the logs first oc
[14:01] <melter> does canonical have a long-term commitment to ubuntu server?
[14:09] <RoAkSoAx> morning all
[14:09] <pmatulis> melter: there is the LTS release
[14:09] <pmatulis> !LTS | melter
[14:11] <melter> pmatulis: i'm concerned about future releases, specifically after reading http://www.zdnet.com/blog/open-source/ubuntu-linux-1104s-target-audience-casual-windows-users/8723
[14:12] <melter> i do software development on the desktop and deploy on server, and running different distributions causes problems with different software packages, versions, etc.
[14:13] <melter> i'm just 1 developer on a small, non-profit project. i used red hat til they started to charge, switched to gentoo until it collapsed, switched to ubuntu, and now i'm worried all over again
[14:16] <jamespage> Daviey: around?
[14:16] <Daviey> jamespage, o/
[14:16] <jamespage> Daviey: time for a quick euca query?
[14:18] <Daviey> jamespage, always for you!
[14:18] <jamespage> ta - so I'm looking at a 11.04 upgrade bug report - bug 766983
[14:18]  * Daviey reads
[14:19] <jamespage> Its a maverick->natty upgrade - however it looks like the code in the postinst script is running; I think that it should only do that for upgrade pre maverick.
[14:19] <jamespage> however it all looks a little odd
[14:19] <Daviey> jamespage, oh golly
[14:19] <Daviey> not seen that one before
[14:19] <jamespage> like there was a previous upgrade that failed or something
[14:20] <Daviey> jamespage, maverick -> natty, that should not happen
[14:20] <jamespage> Daviey: yeah - thats what I thought.
[14:20] <Daviey> lucid to maverick (or *direct* to natty)
[14:21] <jamespage> if a lucid->maverick upgrade failed previously would you see this type of behaviour?
[14:23] <Daviey> jamespage, he would have seen that behaviour since he done it
[14:23] <Daviey> jamespage, https://launchpadlibrarian.net/69995794/DpkgTerminalLog.txt <-- machine looks *really* dirty
[14:23] <jamespage> oh yes - I'm not that worried by this report as a result :-)
[14:24]  * jamespage thinks it may have already been broken pre-upgrade
[14:25] <Daviey> jamespage, My hunch is that it is upgrade from lucid directly to natty...
[14:26] <Daviey> jamespage, really, not much that can be done without reproducing it on a clean machine.  If it was my machine, i'd force the postinst to exit 0.. backup the db, see if euca works and/or run the db upgrade script myself
[14:26] <Daviey> Hmm
[14:27] <Daviey> This machine seems to be a walrus controller only
[14:27] <jamespage> Yeah - its all a bit weird and its also a generic kernel which would indicate that its a desktop install, not a server
[14:29] <Daviey> jamespage, hmm... he doesn't seem to have euca'-common installed
[14:29]  * Daviey checks stuff
[14:30] <jamespage> Daviey: don't do to much now; I'm going to see if the reporting can tell us a bit more; upgrade paths, was it working pre-upgrade etc..
[14:31] <Daviey> jamespage, find out if he has euca'-common installed aswell please?
[14:32] <Daviey> (he should have)
[14:36] <jamespage> Daviey: ack
[14:36] <Daviey> jamespage, infact, a full package list would help :)
[14:37] <Daviey> and a pony.
[14:49] <HazRPG> jMCg: Client side issue, as in the minecraft client... I deleted it, downloaded it again from minecraft.net and it worked like a charm... problem wasn't in the server, the problem must have been in a bad update of the minecraft client.
[14:49] <HazRPG> Sorry, been trying to get apache to work properly
[14:50] <HazRPG> finally got that sorted out too
[14:50] <HazRPG> I put in some custom log file to point to /var/log/apache/<website>/access.log (etc)
[14:51] <HazRPG> but forgot to make the <website> folder
[14:51] <HazRPG> and mysql working like a charm first time round :)
[14:51] <HazRPG> now to just migrate all my windows stuff over to my ubuntu box :D
[14:51] <HazRPG> finally glad to be rid of windows
[15:25] <mdlueck> Is there anyway to see the entire kernel build number of a package visible in Aptitude? The screen shows me 2.6.32-31. and chops the remainder of the build number.
[15:25] <mdlueck> Without actually downloading / installing said kernel package.
[15:33] <mdlueck> By viewing the change log for the package I was able to see that it is indeed 2.6.32-31.61 build. That is way tooooo hard in Aptitude.
[15:35] <Pici> mdlueck: Both apt-cache show and apt-cache policy tell me that.
[15:36] <mdlueck> Pici: But Aptitude truncates the number and makes it very hard to be SURE which version you are selected upon.
[15:52] <jamespage> hggdh: around?
[15:59] <koolhead11> hey kim0 :D
[16:00] <kim0> koolhead11: hey
[16:00] <koolhead11> kim0, wassup :)
[16:00] <kim0> hehe going good .. how about you
[16:01] <koolhead11> am awesome
[16:01] <kim0> koolhead11: that's the way we like it ;)
[16:01] <koolhead11> kim0, pm ?
[16:02] <kim0> yeah sure
[16:55] <azeryu> hello there
[16:55] <azeryu> who know about nagios ?
[16:56] <CrunchyChewie> quick: Fail2Ban or DenyHosts ?
[16:56] <jpds> azeryu: Yes, what's the question?
[16:57] <azeryu> i just followed this tutorial on installing nagios
[16:58] <jpds> CrunchyChewie: Whichever you prefer.
[16:58] <azeryu> http://kedar.nitty-witty.com/blog/10-steps-mysql-monitoring-nagios-installation-configuration
[16:59] <azeryu> i got apache with vhost
[16:59] <azeryu> when i compile nagios package
[17:00] <jpds> Why are you compiling nagios, when there's a prefectly good package in the archive?
[17:00] <azeryu> once after the compile on the tutorial they ask to point to localhost/nagios
[17:01] <azeryu> without saying where is the webroot folder
[17:02] <jpds> azeryu: Try using a guide for Ubuntu (and not RPM-based): https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/C/nagios.html
[17:03] <azeryu> how to uncompile ?
[17:04] <RoyK> azeryu: rm -rf /usr/local/nagios
[17:04] <RoyK> it won't "uncompile", but it'll remove the old stuff
[17:05] <azeryu> but on /etc
[17:05] <azeryu> i got lots of config
[17:05] <azeryu> i want to remove it too ?
[17:05] <azeryu> there is no way to uncompile ?
[17:05] <RoyK> azeryu: did you compile it with standard settings?
[17:05] <RoyK> as in just a ./configure && make all install ?
[17:06] <azeryu> http://kedar.nitty-witty.com/blog/10-steps-mysql-monitoring-nagios-installation-configuration
[17:06] <RoyK> if so, there shouldn't be anything under /etc
[17:06] <azeryu> i just followed that tutorial
[17:06] <azeryu> yes
[17:06] <RoyK> shouldn't be anything under install, then
[17:06] <azeryu> but there are things under /etc
[17:07] <azeryu> i got two folder
[17:07] <RoyK> the nagios bits are under /usr/local/nagios/etc
[17:07] <azeryu> on /etc
[17:07] <RoyK> there might be apache bits there, but that's different
[17:07] <azeryu>  /etc/nagios3 and /etc/nagios-plugin
[17:07] <jpds> azeryu: Use something like https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/C/etckeeper.html in future.
[17:07] <RoyK> if it's a dedicated nagios server, and you worry about how to clean up, just reinstall the box
[17:08]  * RoyK has left nagios for icinga - nagios development halted some 4-5 years back and all focus is now on nagios IV, which is commercial, and thus not very interesting
[17:09] <azeryu> icinga
[17:09] <RoyK> stupid name, but better code
[17:09] <RoyK> a fork
[17:09] <azeryu> icinga
[17:09] <azeryu> icinga is better than nagios  ?
[17:10] <RoyK> it's a nagios fork, and I find it better
[17:10] <RoyK> looks a lot better too :)
[17:10] <ap0c> icinga ?
[17:10] <RoyK> and with the same interfaces, so plugins works
[17:10] <ap0c> RoyK: i haven't used the default css in nagios for years now
[17:11] <RoyK> ap0c: http://tinyurl.com/3oaactz
[17:11] <ap0c> ha
[17:11] <RoyK> there is CSS in Nagios?
[17:11] <ap0c> lmgtfy
[17:12] <azeryu> #icinga
[17:12] <RoyK> aye
[17:25] <RoAkSoAx> smoser: Finally had the time to work on  publish-image \again and I've changed the approach though I think can be improved even more: http://paste.ubuntu.com/596710/
[17:46]  * RoAkSoAx off to lunch
[18:54] <jMCg> Do you guys recommend linux-image-virtual or linux-image-server as kernel for a KVM guest (which acts as a server..)?
[19:00] <queso> If I have enabled the root account by giving it a password, and I now want to disable it again, should I use passwd -l or passwd -d ?
[19:00] <kirkland> RoAkSoAx: remind me where/how we the list of ubuntu releases for testdrive?
[19:01] <jMCg> queso: passwd -l locks it. That's bad, because it would probably prevent all the cronjobs from working which are run under root.
[19:02] <queso> jMCg: ha, good point.  so passwd -d will bring it back to the way it was?
[19:03] <RoyK> you can't go back to what it was
[19:03] <jMCg> hrm...
[19:03] <RoyK> unless you have a backup of /etc/passwd
[19:03] <jMCg> queso: okay. I'm talking out of my ass.
[19:03] <jMCg> queso: that's true for Solaris, but my default Ubuntu install looks like this: galic@knock ~ % sudo getent shadow root
[19:03] <jMCg> root:!:15050:0:99999:7:::
[19:03] <jMCg> queso: so -l is fine then.
[19:04] <queso> Okay, let me ask again. After enabling root by giving it a password, what is the appropriate way to disable it?
[19:06] <queso> passwd -l
[19:07] <Delemas> jMCg, linux-image-virtual is better suited to a KVM guest...
[19:21] <kirkland> RoAkSoAx: also, i doesn't look to me like powerwake-now is working
[19:22] <jMCg> Delemas: is there somewhere a sane listing of difference between the kernel flavours?
[19:22] <Delemas> Sure diff the config files...
[19:23] <jMCg> Delemas: please re-read my question: I said "sane" :)
[19:24] <Delemas> heh you don't get any more sane what of getting differences in configuration than looking at the files that describe that configuration...
[19:27] <jMCg> You might be right. I'll think about this on my ride home. Right now I'm just really happy the whole thing survived a reboot and works as I want it to work.
[19:59] <RoAkSoAx> kirkland> RoAkSoAx: remind me where/how we the list of ubuntu releases for testdrive? -> huh?
[20:00] <RoAkSoAx> kirkland: is there an specific test case for powerwake-now?
[20:00] <RoAkSoAx> so that I can reproduce
[20:00] <RoAkSoAx> (sorry was having lunch and not having a car means a lot of walking ) :)
[20:53] <deadsmith> Does anyone know about grub2 on UEFI XServe machines?  For example, is 10.10 Server running a version that should boot on the machine?
[21:06] <queso> How do I re-generate the MOTD?
[21:19] <genii-around> Interesting. Searching for /var/run/motd on packages.ubuntu.com produces no package
[21:22] <RoyK> it's not installed
[21:22] <RoyK> it's generated over time
[21:29] <queso> RoyK: So how do I regenerate it? :)
[21:32] <RoyK> it's generated/updated once someone logs in
[21:32] <queso> oh, then I must have broke something 'cause the motd is messed up
[21:32] <RoyK> oh
[21:32] <RoyK> motd
[21:32] <queso> I installed etckeeper, maybe that has something to do with it.
[21:32] <RoyK> sorry
[21:33] <RoyK> no, motd is generated by the scripts in /etc/update-motd.d/
[21:34] <RoyK> I was thinking of something else
[21:34] <RoyK> wtmp things
[21:35] <queso> for some reason it's displaying the current motd, then after that an old motd..
[21:35] <queso> every time I log in
[21:36] <RoyK> which distro version?
[21:36] <queso> lucid server
[21:37] <RoyK> funny - works well for me
[21:40] <queso> hmm, there's a /etc/motd.tail  that has the old motd info.  when I delete it then it's good.  dunno where that came from.
[21:43] <Delemas> queso, I saw that today too...
[21:43] <Delemas> Someone else already started a bug report.
[21:51] <RoyK> queso: I guess you upgraded to lucid
[21:51] <RoyK> queso: I've seen the .tail file hanging off after upgrades, without me making it in the first place
[21:55] <Delemas> RoyK, This wasn't the case here. All my 10.04 servers (fresh installs) today ended up with a static version of /etc/motd in /etc/motd.tail from two days ago.
[22:10] <RoAkSoAx> smoser: where you able to check the diff for publish-build?
[22:10] <smoser> RoAkSoAx, sorry. completely forgot
[22:10] <smoser> link again?
[22:11]  * RoAkSoAx looks
[22:12] <RoAkSoAx> smoser:   http://paste.ubuntu.com/597150/
[22:18] <RoAkSoAx> SpamapS:ping?
[22:54] <goddard> i got something really odd going on.  When I login to my ubuntu server it displays the system information like normal but it has two sets of system information  and the second set is different from the first...whats going on? any ideas?
[22:55] <giovani> goddard: is the timestamp on both printouts the same?
[22:56] <goddard> no
[22:57] <goddard> one is a day before
[22:57] <goddard> what does that mean?
[22:58] <goddard> I have two servers and the other server doesn't display information for two days
[23:16] <goddard> giovani any idea