[00:45] jiboumans: pong.. sorry been afk for a bit [00:48] smoser: re your "event failed" question.. it means that there was an error starting something that one of the events mountall kicked off [00:48] smoser: IIRC mountall doesn't do much in lxc [01:44] * ScottK looks in his spamfolder to see if SpamapS' posts to the opendkim mailing list got misplaced. [01:45] !backports [01:45] If new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they may go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports - See also !packaging [01:58] SpamapS's mails always go to my spamfolder [01:58] but that might be because of an explicit rule i have [02:00] so... system load >50, is that a lot?......... [02:09] MTecknology: an ideal system will have a load average of one times the number of CPUs/cores [02:09] twb: that had two cores.. [02:10] the system was chugging; it's our web gateway and filters everything that goes through the proxy [02:10] it was...... fun? [02:10] ScottK: I keep getting side tracked trying to reproduce it another way. ;) [02:11] MTecknology: maybe you should fix that, then [02:11] ScottK: the original poster says 10% .. I've tried at least 100 times and not reproduced. :-/ [02:11] i 'think' we took care of it for the moment [02:11] lotta work to do though.. [02:12] * SpamapS fades back into the darkness === squishy is now known as SquishyNotHere [02:38] smoser: efficency at its best right? === cole is now known as Guest98 [03:34] Hi, I am having some trouble trying to port forward my home ubuntu server for free through dyndns.com. can anyone please help? [03:36] well, for one, dyndns doesn't forward ports, it points DNS to your dynamic IP automatically [03:37] port forwarding is done on your internet facing device, usually a consumer router [03:37] I can't use dyndns so that i can access my home ubuntu server from anywhere? [03:38] you can, but that's not port forwarding, and it's only part of the process [03:38] dyndns makes a name always point to you [03:38] letting traffic in to your server is port forwarding, and is done on your router [03:38] okay i believe i have done this [03:38] i have a netgear router and it has an option for this [03:39] so i have selected this option and put iin my host name and username and password [03:39] and i have installed ddclient on my server as well. entering in my username and password for dyndns.com etc [03:40] that's probably a bad idea, you should only use one or the other [03:40] okay so you think i should uninstall ddclient on the server [03:40] since my router has an option for this [03:40] up to you, whichever device you trust more [03:41] i trust the router more i think, so i am going to uninstall ddclient and see if that will do anything [03:41] you can test by going to a site such as whatismyip.com and running 'dig mydomain.dyndns.com' on your server [03:41] if they return the same IP, it is getting set correctly [03:41] okay thanks. let me try this [03:42] okay, they are both giving me the same ip address [03:43] so the name points to you, next step is to forward ports to your server in your router [03:44] for that, depends on what you want to do with the server [03:44] hey guys \o [03:44] okay, what i would like to do is be able to ssh into the server [03:44] from an outside internet connection [03:45] then you need to forward port 22 tcp to your server's internal IP address [03:45] said IP address should be static or at least reserved in DHCP on the router [03:46] okay, i see an option static routes on my router [03:46] no [03:46] your server's networking configuration [03:46] should have a static IP set [03:46] in the router, you want port forwarding [03:46] okay let me look. [03:46] and you forward 22 tcp to that IP address [03:47] otherwise, that IP could change periodically, and when it does, your port forward will no longer work [03:47] oh okay. let me see if i can find this option [03:48] see `man interfaces` for details [03:48] okay, i have found an option labled port forwarding/ port triggering [03:48] as a side note, allowing SSH from the internet is high profile, make sure you have very strong passwords on all your users, or upgrade to key authentication, etc [03:49] under that i can add a new custom servive and there is a dropdown list with service names such as age-of-empire, net meeting, news, ftp [03:49] does that seem like the right place? [03:49] i see a tcp/udp option [03:50] probably, every manufacturer does it different [03:50] there is a field for starting port and ending port..what exactly would i be putting here [03:50] you want port 22 tcp [03:51] as for what your specific router wants to do that, I don't know, you'll have to consult the router's manual [03:51] okay [03:52] princej88: most probably you'll have to put 22 in start and 22 at the end to set the proper interval [03:52] okay. let me try that m_tadeu [03:53] hmm, I seem to be having a bit of trouble with radvd & IPv6 over IPv4 :/ [03:54] everyone is getting IPv6 addresses fine, and the server can ping6, but all the clients can't at all [03:54] this did work at one point :( [03:55] wow, i have gotten this working. thanks so much for the help guys [03:57] princej88: welcome [03:57] anyone able to lend a helping hand trying to work out whats up? [03:58] sorry, I don't know anything about ipv6 [03:59] hmm [03:59] a bit contradictory since networking and security is my forte, but I just disable it, never needed it [03:59] I'm sure I'll take the time to figure it out eventually [04:00] qman__: ah, well maybe you can help me with another thing then instead, if you don't mind that is :) [04:00] as long as it's quick, need to hit the sack soon [04:01] I'd like to secure my sshd down, and well I've already got one in place on my vps but would be interesting to know if its actually good enough or not [04:01] best option is key authentication [04:02] and I use limiting in the firewall, it's built into ufw if you use that [04:02] if you use straight iptables, look up -m recent [04:03] slows brute force attempts rendering them ineffectual [04:03] I'm pretty new to running/managing a linux server really [04:03] well, keys of a decent length are far stronger than passwords [04:03] you just need to make sure you don't lose them [04:03] so far i've got key authentication I think [04:04] but the most important thing, by far, is to make sure you don't have any accounts with weak passwords allowed to log in [04:04] i'll see if i can pull it up [04:04] easiest way to prevent that is use keys and disable password authentication in sshd [04:05] authorized_keys [04:05] thats the folder i've used [04:06] it's a file, actually [04:06] and it stores public keys that are allowed to authenticate as that user [04:06] ah sorry i meant file inside of .ssh ;) [04:06] if key authentication is working (sshd doesn't ask for a password), disable password authentication in sshd [04:06] and restart sshd [04:07] by doing that you eliminate the most common attack vectors [04:07] and you only have to worry about losing your keys, or bugs in the software [04:07] the ssh key always asks for its password the first time i use it when i boot up, guessing thats normal though? [04:08] well, if you protected your key with a passphrase, yes [04:08] but that's different from sshd asking for your password [04:08] but thats the keychain inside of ubuntu, not the actual terminal [04:08] yes [04:08] yeah :) [04:08] bugs do happen though, nothing is foolproof [04:09] see the whole debian ssh key generation fiasco [04:09] right, so if I just disable password... it'll reject all, except key holds, am I right in thinking that? [04:09] yes [04:09] yeah I have read about stuff like that [04:10] best protection against that is keeping your software up to date [04:10] I usually try to keep on top of updates daily, or is that the wrong way to go about things? [04:10] daily is a bit much, I set mine weekly [04:10] but it depends on your needs [04:10] its just a habit [04:11] if I'm logged into the server for irssi, and notice in byobu that there's updates I go check to see what they are and update [04:11] best part about open source, when a serious bug in popular software arises, it's usually fixed the same day [04:11] and the patches roll out the next [04:11] yeah I have noticed, which I think is awesome :) [04:12] I've just migrated my home server to a ubuntu-server... just got so fed up of seeing so many hacking attempts in logs [04:12] none of that waiting around for several weeks|months|years you get with proprietary software [04:13] agreed, there was a bug in windows server that someone kept trying to pin me down with, in the end i just put up some serious firewall rules in place [04:13] also, updating apache in windows seems to be harder to do than linux... other reason for the switch over [04:14] apache on windows is not a good idea security wise anyway [04:15] much thanks for the advice btw [04:15] it's fine for in-house things, but not serving the internet, too many unknowns [04:16] really need to chrunch down whats up with my ipv6 now :/ [04:17] I had ubuntu-server in a VM for the last 5 months while I get to grips with operating with it, also started tinkering with IPv6... and it worked fine in that VM [04:18] serving all computers on the network, but now that i've moved everything onto a pure ubuntu-server based system... it just doesn't seem to be having any of it [04:18] and i can't see for the life of me why [04:18] even the VM (which I kept a backup of) doesn't seem to want to do it anymore either - which doesn't make sense [04:19] proper "pull your hair out" scenario lol [04:19] I've had plenty of those [04:19] at least this stuff is all documented [04:19] every day :) [04:20] I've noticed configuring apache seems to be very different to the one I had on windows :/ [04:20] it's more organized and easy [04:20] at work I deal mostly with windows SBS on overloaded servers, with dozens of proprietary applications [04:20] seems to have been moved to several files instead of the one file [04:20] all poorly documented, if at all [04:21] that's the debian way [04:21] HazRPG, it's far better that way [04:21] and I agree, it's far better [04:21] I HATE having one huge config file, the debian way makes it way easier to script things [04:21] don't get me wrong, it does seem better... but its going to take me a fair bit of reading to figure out what needs to go where and why [04:22] read up on a2ensite/a2dissite, a2enmod/a2dismod [04:22] it makes things really easy [04:22] will do [04:23] actually all Linux's save for a few weird holdouts that no one uses anymore do it this way now [04:24] I can't believe I managed to get sage on the test for H.E. (IPv6), and yet I can't figure out whats wrong with this thing [04:25] kellnola: it does make more sense to have individual files to sort through things then to have it all clumped to one file [04:25] it makes mass virtual hosting comprehensible [04:25] for one [04:25] makes managing it a lot easier too [04:26] kellnola: see, I /sort of/ do that... I have several domains hosted on my own server [04:28] but debian does that with almost all the major server programs [04:29] going to ask alis to see if there's an ipv6 channel [04:30] seems there is #ipv6 \o/ [04:57] hmm? [04:57] ipv6 issues? [05:10] SpamapS: Then that's a worthy thing to post. === cole is now known as Guest87012 [06:28] hi all [06:51] after latest update&&safe-upgrade i have duplicate login-message as follows: http://pastebin.com/zteL4tKf [06:57] Can somebody help me get apache working correctly? I set up my vhosts, set DocumentRoot to /home/unforgiven512/public_html/site.com [06:57] then I did sudo chown -R unforgiven512:www-data ~/public_html/ [06:57] and sudo chmod -R 0750 ~/public_html? [06:57] and I'm still getting a 403 [07:07] well ok. i found this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sysvinit/+bug/659738 [07:07] Launchpad bug 659738 in sysvinit "Duplicate welcome message in motd after upgrade 10.04>10.10" [Medium,Fix released] [07:08] though i didn't upgrade from 10.04 -> 10.10. === KB1JWQ is now known as Corey === Corey is now known as KB1JWQ === KB1JWQ is now known as Corey [07:59] how can i trace what package update && upgrade did? [08:01] xampart: /var/log/apt/history.log [08:02] xampart: if you've been using aptitude probably /var/log/aptitude too [08:04] joschi: ok. so how would i go finding which update (propably initscripts) caused the creation of /etc/motd.tail -file? [08:05] ok. the culprit is more likely sysvinit-utils [08:05] xampart: if the file is part of a package and is not created ad hoc, try dpkg -S [09:23] Hi guys! Is this a place to ask regarding EC2 ubuntu server support? === grawcho__ is now known as grawcho [09:32] pfalcon, explain server support [09:34] koolhead11: well, I'm from linaro team, we use ec2 for continuous build integration, and this night we had failures like: [09:34] Err http://us-east-1.ec2.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ maverick/main policykit-1-gnome amd64 0.96-2ubuntu4 [09:34] 403 Forbidden [IP: 10.202.26.15 80] [09:34] it is cleared by now, [09:34] but I wanted to make sure that it's known issue and/or fixed [09:34] pfalcon, that looks like an httpd configuration issue on the ec2 apt mirrors [09:36] pfalcon, so it's not a problem on your machine [09:39] raphink: sure, it is not ;-) I exactly wanted to bring that possible misconfig on the server to the attention, if this is right place [09:39] ah, right [09:40] I don't know who manages these repositories [09:42] ok, just hope it's something like random software upgrade or so [10:10] Anyone around? [10:10] On Ubuntu Server 10.04, is the proper method of starting a service "sudo /etc/init.d/mysql start" or "sudo service mysql start" ? [10:11] Also, mysql is not autostarting at boot time, and I can not figure out why. [10:11] unforgiven512, most init.d scripts are wrappers to service now [10:12] the proper method is server start [10:12] Morning all [10:12] service start [10:12] sorry [10:12] hi daxroc [10:12] How do I completly remove a package and it's binarys [10:12] Alright, thanks. [10:12] apt-get remove --purge [10:12] Now, may I ask, why am I having issues getting it to automatically run at boot? [10:12] And, if I do "sudo service mysql start" [10:13] then "sudo service --status-all" [10:13] mysql still has a [?] instead of [+] (or [-] for that matter) [10:15] we have issues with the mysql upstart conf here too [10:15] in lucid [10:15] hmm [10:15] we've often replaced it with a traditional init script [10:16] It's frustrating D= [10:16] upstart can be very frustrating indeed [10:19] Should I do sudo dpkg-reconfigure mysql-server ? [10:20] I don't think it will solve the issue [10:21] Hmm [10:24] I have two interfaces with the address "127.0.0.1" for some odd reason [10:24] And, having MySQL bind to 127.0.0.1, could that be creating the issue? [10:24] lo, and venet0 [10:48] unforgiven512: openvz/virtuozzo virtualization. venet0 shouldn't have 127.0.0.1 assigned, IMHO [10:51] venet0 is 127.0.0.1, venet0:0 is (my actual IP) [10:52] the only interface that should be assigned 127.0.0.1 is lo, correct? [11:25] hi! I'm trying to enable sound on ubuntu server 10.10 with internal audio from D510MO board. But lspci don't show any audio devices. How to enables sound? [11:48] probably wrong place to ask this, but worth a shot... having trouble with ubuntu-server 10.04.2 running minecraft server 1.5_02 [11:48] (vanilla minecraft server) [11:48] its fine for walking around, but the minute you try to do anything, it kicks them out throwing some java exception stuff [11:53] Maybe it wants OracleTM Java? [12:51] HazRPG: usually, when you say "exception", but don't provide the exception and the stack trace you're just wasting bandwidth. [12:51] "Server logs error" [12:51] "stuff doesn't work" [12:51] "nobody cares" [12:52] yeah [12:52] its fine, think I got it working [12:52] seems it was a client-side issue more than server side [12:53] Yeah. 's all well. But: *what* issue? [13:42] Hi. Ubuntu Server 10.04.1 Alternate over IBM xSeries 226 with HWRaid. Any idea about how to work around so it would boot even if I don't use "Boot from first Hard Drive" from live-cd ? [13:46] e-DIO-t: what do you mean? [13:47] e-DIO-t: remove the CD [13:48] xampart: i mean -> if i try to boot from first hard disk [from boot options] it simply "stops" on a flashing cursor. If i boot from CD and then i give the install option "boot from first hard disk", linux boots [13:48] we had a firmware issue on our ibm-machine [13:49] had to update-initramfs after installation. aic94xx-seq.fw was the file, iirc [13:50] ty, i'll give a try [13:50] you should check the logs first oc === grawcho_ is now known as grawcho [14:01] does canonical have a long-term commitment to ubuntu server? [14:09] morning all [14:09] melter: there is the LTS release [14:09] !LTS | melter [14:09] melter: LTS means Long Term Support. LTS versions of Ubuntu will be supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server. The current LTS version of Ubuntu is !Lucid (Lucid Lynx 10.04) [14:11] pmatulis: i'm concerned about future releases, specifically after reading http://www.zdnet.com/blog/open-source/ubuntu-linux-1104s-target-audience-casual-windows-users/8723 [14:12] i do software development on the desktop and deploy on server, and running different distributions causes problems with different software packages, versions, etc. [14:13] i'm just 1 developer on a small, non-profit project. i used red hat til they started to charge, switched to gentoo until it collapsed, switched to ubuntu, and now i'm worried all over again [14:16] Daviey: around? [14:16] jamespage, o/ [14:16] Daviey: time for a quick euca query? [14:18] jamespage, always for you! [14:18] ta - so I'm looking at a 11.04 upgrade bug report - bug 766983 [14:18] Launchpad bug 766983 in eucalyptus "package eucalyptus-java-common 2.0.1 bzr1256-0ubuntu4 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/766983 [14:18] * Daviey reads [14:19] Its a maverick->natty upgrade - however it looks like the code in the postinst script is running; I think that it should only do that for upgrade pre maverick. [14:19] however it all looks a little odd [14:19] jamespage, oh golly [14:19] not seen that one before [14:19] like there was a previous upgrade that failed or something [14:20] jamespage, maverick -> natty, that should not happen [14:20] Daviey: yeah - thats what I thought. [14:20] lucid to maverick (or *direct* to natty) [14:21] if a lucid->maverick upgrade failed previously would you see this type of behaviour? [14:23] jamespage, he would have seen that behaviour since he done it [14:23] jamespage, https://launchpadlibrarian.net/69995794/DpkgTerminalLog.txt <-- machine looks *really* dirty [14:23] oh yes - I'm not that worried by this report as a result :-) [14:24] * jamespage thinks it may have already been broken pre-upgrade [14:25] jamespage, My hunch is that it is upgrade from lucid directly to natty... [14:26] jamespage, really, not much that can be done without reproducing it on a clean machine. If it was my machine, i'd force the postinst to exit 0.. backup the db, see if euca works and/or run the db upgrade script myself [14:26] Hmm [14:27] This machine seems to be a walrus controller only [14:27] Yeah - its all a bit weird and its also a generic kernel which would indicate that its a desktop install, not a server [14:29] jamespage, hmm... he doesn't seem to have euca'-common installed [14:29] * Daviey checks stuff [14:30] Daviey: don't do to much now; I'm going to see if the reporting can tell us a bit more; upgrade paths, was it working pre-upgrade etc.. [14:31] jamespage, find out if he has euca'-common installed aswell please? [14:32] (he should have) [14:36] Daviey: ack [14:36] jamespage, infact, a full package list would help :) [14:37] and a pony. [14:49] jMCg: Client side issue, as in the minecraft client... I deleted it, downloaded it again from minecraft.net and it worked like a charm... problem wasn't in the server, the problem must have been in a bad update of the minecraft client. [14:49] Sorry, been trying to get apache to work properly [14:50] finally got that sorted out too [14:50] I put in some custom log file to point to /var/log/apache//access.log (etc) [14:51] but forgot to make the folder [14:51] and mysql working like a charm first time round :) [14:51] now to just migrate all my windows stuff over to my ubuntu box :D [14:51] finally glad to be rid of windows === cole is now known as Guest53171 [15:25] Is there anyway to see the entire kernel build number of a package visible in Aptitude? The screen shows me 2.6.32-31. and chops the remainder of the build number. [15:25] Without actually downloading / installing said kernel package. === cloakable_ is now known as cloakable [15:33] By viewing the change log for the package I was able to see that it is indeed 2.6.32-31.61 build. That is way tooooo hard in Aptitude. [15:35] mdlueck: Both apt-cache show and apt-cache policy tell me that. [15:36] Pici: But Aptitude truncates the number and makes it very hard to be SURE which version you are selected upon. [15:52] hggdh: around? [15:59] hey kim0 :D [16:00] koolhead11: hey [16:00] kim0, wassup :) [16:00] hehe going good .. how about you [16:01] am awesome [16:01] koolhead11: that's the way we like it ;) [16:01] kim0, pm ? [16:02] yeah sure === alanr is now known as Cathryn === Cathryn is now known as alan23424 [16:27] New bug: #766242 in cloud-init "lp:ubuntu/cloud-init is not buildable by bzr-builder" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/766242 [16:55] hello there [16:55] who know about nagios ? [16:56] quick: Fail2Ban or DenyHosts ? [16:56] azeryu: Yes, what's the question? [16:57] i just followed this tutorial on installing nagios [16:58] CrunchyChewie: Whichever you prefer. [16:58] http://kedar.nitty-witty.com/blog/10-steps-mysql-monitoring-nagios-installation-configuration [16:59] i got apache with vhost [16:59] when i compile nagios package [17:00] Why are you compiling nagios, when there's a prefectly good package in the archive? [17:00] once after the compile on the tutorial they ask to point to localhost/nagios [17:01] without saying where is the webroot folder [17:02] azeryu: Try using a guide for Ubuntu (and not RPM-based): https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/C/nagios.html [17:03] how to uncompile ? [17:04] azeryu: rm -rf /usr/local/nagios [17:04] it won't "uncompile", but it'll remove the old stuff [17:05] but on /etc [17:05] i got lots of config [17:05] i want to remove it too ? [17:05] there is no way to uncompile ? [17:05] azeryu: did you compile it with standard settings? [17:05] as in just a ./configure && make all install ? [17:06] http://kedar.nitty-witty.com/blog/10-steps-mysql-monitoring-nagios-installation-configuration [17:06] if so, there shouldn't be anything under /etc [17:06] i just followed that tutorial [17:06] yes [17:06] shouldn't be anything under install, then [17:06] but there are things under /etc [17:07] i got two folder [17:07] the nagios bits are under /usr/local/nagios/etc [17:07] on /etc [17:07] there might be apache bits there, but that's different [17:07] /etc/nagios3 and /etc/nagios-plugin [17:07] azeryu: Use something like https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/C/etckeeper.html in future. [17:07] if it's a dedicated nagios server, and you worry about how to clean up, just reinstall the box [17:08] * RoyK has left nagios for icinga - nagios development halted some 4-5 years back and all focus is now on nagios IV, which is commercial, and thus not very interesting [17:09] icinga [17:09] stupid name, but better code [17:09] a fork [17:09] icinga [17:09] icinga is better than nagios ? [17:10] it's a nagios fork, and I find it better [17:10] looks a lot better too :) [17:10] icinga ? [17:10] and with the same interfaces, so plugins works [17:10] RoyK: i haven't used the default css in nagios for years now [17:11] ap0c: http://tinyurl.com/3oaactz [17:11] ha [17:11] there is CSS in Nagios? [17:11] lmgtfy [17:12] #icinga [17:12] aye [17:25] smoser: Finally had the time to work on publish-image \again and I've changed the approach though I think can be improved even more: http://paste.ubuntu.com/596710/ === mok0_ is now known as mok0 [17:46] * RoAkSoAx off to lunch [18:54] Do you guys recommend linux-image-virtual or linux-image-server as kernel for a KVM guest (which acts as a server..)? [19:00] If I have enabled the root account by giving it a password, and I now want to disable it again, should I use passwd -l or passwd -d ? [19:00] RoAkSoAx: remind me where/how we the list of ubuntu releases for testdrive? [19:01] queso: passwd -l locks it. That's bad, because it would probably prevent all the cronjobs from working which are run under root. [19:02] jMCg: ha, good point. so passwd -d will bring it back to the way it was? [19:03] you can't go back to what it was [19:03] hrm... [19:03] unless you have a backup of /etc/passwd [19:03] queso: okay. I'm talking out of my ass. [19:03] queso: that's true for Solaris, but my default Ubuntu install looks like this: galic@knock ~ % sudo getent shadow root [19:03] root:!:15050:0:99999:7::: [19:03] queso: so -l is fine then. [19:04] Okay, let me ask again. After enabling root by giving it a password, what is the appropriate way to disable it? [19:06] passwd -l [19:07] jMCg, linux-image-virtual is better suited to a KVM guest... [19:21] RoAkSoAx: also, i doesn't look to me like powerwake-now is working [19:22] Delemas: is there somewhere a sane listing of difference between the kernel flavours? [19:22] Sure diff the config files... [19:23] Delemas: please re-read my question: I said "sane" :) [19:24] heh you don't get any more sane what of getting differences in configuration than looking at the files that describe that configuration... [19:27] You might be right. I'll think about this on my ride home. Right now I'm just really happy the whole thing survived a reboot and works as I want it to work. [19:31] New bug: #768506 in samba (main) "CIFS VFS Server is slowing down shutdown" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/768506 [19:59] kirkland> RoAkSoAx: remind me where/how we the list of ubuntu releases for testdrive? -> huh? [20:00] kirkland: is there an specific test case for powerwake-now? [20:00] so that I can reproduce [20:00] (sorry was having lunch and not having a car means a lot of walking ) :) [20:53] Does anyone know about grub2 on UEFI XServe machines? For example, is 10.10 Server running a version that should boot on the machine? [21:06] How do I re-generate the MOTD? [21:19] Interesting. Searching for /var/run/motd on packages.ubuntu.com produces no package [21:22] it's not installed [21:22] it's generated over time [21:29] RoyK: So how do I regenerate it? :) [21:32] it's generated/updated once someone logs in [21:32] oh, then I must have broke something 'cause the motd is messed up [21:32] oh [21:32] motd [21:32] I installed etckeeper, maybe that has something to do with it. [21:32] sorry [21:33] no, motd is generated by the scripts in /etc/update-motd.d/ [21:34] I was thinking of something else [21:34] wtmp things [21:35] for some reason it's displaying the current motd, then after that an old motd.. [21:35] every time I log in [21:36]