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[02:42] <pleia2> sf ubuntu hour \o/
[02:42] <pleia2> (actually wrapping up in a few minutesZ)
[04:26] <philipballew> can anyone help with installing a driver into the kernel?
[04:27] <seidos> philipballew: hey how's it going?  i can try
[04:28] <philipballew> well i just bought a sd card and come to find out my sd card doesnt work out of the box but my digging lead me here
[04:28] <philipballew> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/attachment.cgi?id=429416&action=edit
[04:28] <philipballew> i think this is what i need
[04:29] <seidos> how funny, my sd card reader doesn't work either
[04:29] <seidos> it used to
[04:29] <seidos> i think the hardware may have failed
[04:30] <philipballew> thats ironic. perhaps someone attacked all linux users computers
[04:30] <seidos> philipballew: you can do lscpi, find your card reader, then search for the module you need.  and, do sudo lshw to check if a driver is already loaded
[04:30] <seidos> philipballew: that's an interesting evaluation
[04:30] <seidos> maybe an sd card reading manufacturer :P
[04:31] <philipballew> they think we need to go to windows!!!!!
[04:31] <seidos> it's not what you know though, it's what you can prove!
[04:32] <seidos> for some reason, i feel like watching a star wars flick.  revenge of the sith is probably my favorite now.
[04:33] <seidos> anyway, good luck getting your card reader working philipballew.  there may not be a decent enough driver to get it going, though
[04:33] <akk> An SD card generally doesn't require a driver -- it's the reader that requires a driver.
[04:33] <akk> What reader are you using?
[04:34] <philipballew> alright. if i cant figure it out ill post here again and someone will figure it out if i dont
[04:35] <seidos> philipballew: may i ask why you need the sd card?  did you get a camera or something?
[04:35] <seidos> maybe someone wants everybody to use usb memory sticks
[04:36] <akk> A separate USB SD card reader is typically just the same as a USB stick ... a generic USB-storate device.
[04:36] <philipballew> i am gonna put by boot loader on it and make my laptop more secure
[04:36] <akk> storage
[04:36] <akk> but if you're trying to read it from a built-in drive on a laptop, sometimes those use screwy drivers.
[04:37] <seidos> perhaps an external usb card reader, my internal usb card reader uses the pci bus i'm pretty sure
[04:37] <seidos> indeed it does
[04:39] <seidos> philipballew: hey, i'm using the same sdhci-pci driver.  do lsmod | grep sdhci-pci to see if it's loaded (though if it shows up in lshw i'm pretty sure it already is)
[04:39] <akk> A lot of the common SD readers built in to laptops use a TI chip that works, but only sort of -- like it can't survive a suspend
[04:39] <akk> and the OS may lock up if you try to suspend with the SD card mounted, or might refuse to suspend.
[04:40] <seidos> ah, well the sd card reader is dead now
[04:40] <seidos> i wasn't able to wake it up last time i had an sd card to play with
[04:42] <philipballew> there cool for music and their small i find
[04:43] <akk> I was trying to use mine for that, but once I found out I couldn't suspend, I moved the music to a USB stick instead.
[04:45] <seidos> usb sticks work for me.  they are rock solid.  and they can be used to boot from.  sd card on pci bus, not so sure
[04:45] <philipballew> the kernal says its loaded. i probably have a different chipset then you
[04:46] <seidos> what does lshw say philipballew ?
[04:47] <MarkDude> akk informative post on your blog. Interesting to see devs remove stuff without giving a new way to do it
[04:47] <seidos> this is mine:                  product: R5C822 SD/SDIO/MMC/MS/MSPro Host Adapter
[04:47] <seidos>                 vendor: Ricoh Co Ltd
[04:47] <seidos> hey MarkDude
[04:47] <akk> MarkDude: They do that pretty often, sadly.
[04:49] <MarkDude> I remember lurnin' all those dpkg ways to fix video- in time for it to be removed
[04:49] <MarkDude> hello seidos
[04:50] <philipballew> dont you mean lspci?
[04:50] <seidos> philipballew: either way i think
[04:50] <seidos> i just happened to have lshw still up
[04:51] <philipballew> 06:00.0 SD Host controller: Ricoh Co Ltd Device e822 (rev ff) (prog-if ff)
[04:51] <philipballew> 	!!! Unknown header type 7f
[04:51] <philipballew> 	Kernel driver in use: sdhci-pci
[04:51] <philipballew> 	Kernel modules: sdhci-pci
[04:51] <Eureka> philipballew: Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)
[05:07] <seidos> lol weird, why did Eureka do that
[05:07] <seidos> curioser and curioser
[05:07] <seidos> curious too
[05:07] <philipballew> seemes weird!
[05:07] <seidos> philipballew: i suspect our devices need a specific driver to function properly
[05:08] <seidos> if you figure out how to write one, let me know
[05:08] <philipballew> schools keepin my to busy
[05:08] <philipballew> but its easter break now
[05:08] <philipballew> im about to drive to sac all night
[05:12] <seidos> why are you going to sac?
[05:12] <seidos> political business?
[05:12] <seidos> philipballew: ^
[05:13] <philipballew> i live there
[05:13] <philipballew> kinda
[05:13] <philipballew> well... when im not in school
[05:13] <philipballew> sorry for delay, im packin
[05:14] <seidos> no worries
[17:15] <akk> I wish the loco pages could learn to recognize launchpad, so logging in didn't always get the "you are trying to sign in from an unrecognized service" confirmation screen.
[17:19] <pleia2> it's probably on the launchpad side (which can be difficult to work with), but is there a loco directory bug about it?
[17:19] <iheartubuntu> Epic FAIL - Sergio Ramos of Real Madrid drops the trophy... http://youtu.be/tqU0BK4uxHM
[17:25] <akk> I don't see a bug if I search for launchpad.
[17:26]  * akk files one
[17:30] <akk> filed, 768441
[17:37] <pleia2> :)
[23:39] <kdub> http://partmaps.org/era/unix/guis.txt
[23:48] <akk> kdub: hallelujah brother! :)
[23:48] <kdub> i'm learning all sorts of fun things on the old usenet posts
[23:48] <akk> That way lies madness! (usenet)
[23:49] <kdub> haha, thanks for heading me off at the pass then, akk
[23:49] <akk> wait, did I say madness was bad? :)
[23:49] <sn9> is badness mad?
[23:51] <kdub> heh guess you didnt say that akk. its almost like reading throguh the unix sage's writings of old