[11:24] <_marx_> nice akgraner, when do we stop calling you an NTEU? :) [11:24] <_marx_> but still the question remains. [11:25] <_marx_> how where does one control the time of day that the update manager runs? [11:25] <_marx_> it is, too me, a simple question yet Mr. Google has yet to reveal an answer [12:15] <_marx_> there seems to be _no documentation on the subject [12:16] <_marx_> if just turning it off is the best solution why is it even included in any version and why is it still used in so many distros? [12:17] <_marx_> it is what it is = it is a piece of shit [12:19] I've asked on Ask Ubuntu - http://askubuntu.com/questions/36251/is-there-a-way-to-change-what-time-the-update-manager-checks-for-updates [12:19] and I'll submit a feature request as as well.... [12:21] _marx_, if you click on that link just vote up the question...if others can do that as well, this way it gets marked as a valid question and moved to the top/front page for people to see [12:33] _marx_, hopefully you'll get an answer soon...Great question by the way! [12:43] <_marx_> awesome! [12:45] <_marx_> i don't care if it's gui, looking through default cron jobs i don't see it [12:49] <_marx_> used to be i'd be at work, non-computer work, by 7:30 now i'm usually sitting here when the resource pig runs [13:04] <_marx_> now i'm off to do one of my favorite things, vinyl siding, i'll be back in ten years to fix the water damage [15:08] _marx_, here is your answer - http://askubuntu.com/questions/36251/is-there-a-way-to-change-what-time-the-update-manager-checks-for-updates [15:08] I <3 Ask Ubuntu! [16:13] Any one running 11.04 beta yet? [16:31] was that released today? [16:50] I'm not sure when it was released [16:50] http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/natty/beta [16:51] I read that beta 2 was out or coming on OMG Ubuntu a few days ago [16:51] it's there now [17:04] jeffrash: ive been running a testing version for a while now [17:04] a month or so [17:05] any major issues? [17:05] depends [17:06] i mean, im not running maverick anywhere that is matters ;) [17:06] but, a casual desktop machine [17:06] where you know what you're getting into [17:06] i would run natty now [17:07] I am very happy with maverick. It's natty I'm not sure of. [17:07] I think I do a VM and see what happens [17:08] I'll do [17:08] well, either you like unity or not [17:08] its not a bug though ;) [17:08] its a feature [17:08] right [17:08] other than the big UI change [17:08] most everything else is stable as it should be [17:22] ok, thanks [17:22] downloading the ISO now [17:26] jeffrash, I am [17:28] akgraner: no deal breakers right? [17:31] nope [17:32] I'm loving it [17:32] good to know [17:32] thanks [18:02] i heard unity is great compared to gnome-shell :x [18:06] haven't tried it yet - I'll check Fedora 15 this weekend though [20:33] no joy with 11.04b2 in Virtual Box [20:35] Upgrading my D420 laptop to 11.04b2 instead [20:35] If it doesn't work, I needed to rebuild it anyway [21:34] <_marx_> jeffrash: natty failed to run unity in my vbox test ahhh 'bout two weeks ago [21:34] <_marx_> video issues [21:35] VirtualBox or VMware Player? [21:37] <_marx_> virtual box from sun/oracle [21:37] <_marx_> not the ose version [21:39] <_marx_> akgraner: that is perfect, i didn't know about ask ubuntu [21:40] I know this is bordering near the ban list... Does your version of VirtualBox run the Areo of the Microsoft OS's? [21:40] <_marx_> haven't tried [21:40] <_marx_> i did not enable 3d in the guest so that is likely the cause [21:41] VMware version 6 is able to, so I'm curious which is a better option [21:41] <_marx_> ic [21:42] <_marx_> actually opensuse 11.4 kde somehow started it's 3d desktop effects on install [21:42] <_marx_> which just about completely locked up the vm [21:49] I'm sure host hardware will have a lot to do with that too. [21:50] <_marx_> yeah, my current host has an intel 9xx video, was using an nvidia agp card on another now deceased box [23:38] no Broadcom wireless in 11.04 [23:38] The STA driver is loaded but not working [23:38] jeffrash: :/ [23:38] 11.04b2 [23:40] jeffrash: hmmm [23:40] jeffrash: is the other one available [23:40] what's the command to get my card version again? [23:41] no, only STA [23:42] jeffrash: try lspci -vv [23:42] * holstein is att he WNCLUG :) [23:42] at* [23:48] just found an article that it broke in beta 2 [23:48] kernel problem [23:49] got to run, I'll fix it later [23:49] thanks guys [23:52] jeffrash: good luck