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charliebucketexit00:22
skellatA blast of a vuvuzela might echo resoundingly right now00:53
Derath-Srvrhi all01:03
skellatGood evening01:03
Derath-Srvrbrb for the meeting, wife is calling for me01:03
Derath-SrvrOkay, back01:04
jacobsorry i'm late -- miss much?01:05
Derath-SrvrCammaaron, I had the same problem a couple weeks ago... co-worker and I showed up and no one was there...01:05
Derath-SrvrCouldn't miss much when we were waiting on you jacob :)01:05
skellatThis is one of those very rare instances when I'm not at work and can be here!01:05
jacobhehe :D01:06
jacobgilbert: you around?01:08
jacobi don't see itsafork01:08
* Cheri703 is here01:08
Derath-SrvrYa know, I haven't seen titim in a long time as well...01:09
jacobDerath-Srvr: indeed01:09
Derath-SrvrUnless he changed names... didn't agree with that one anyways01:09
jacobheh heh01:09
jacobi suppose we should get something going then, anyway :)01:10
* skellat wonders what the final attendee count will be01:10
jacobfirst off, i'd like to apologize personally for being very... idle the past few months. coursework has been rather demanding, but i'm going to try to devote some more time to the loco01:11
thafreakam i late?01:11
jacobthafreak: nah, just starting (I was late ;)01:11
thafreakcool01:11
gilchso what exactly is planned for this columbus meeting in a couple weeks?01:13
jacobthe main reason for this meeting is to touch base with everyone on the status of the Columbus event, see where things are headed, and get things planned in a more concrete fashion.01:13
skellatjacob: According to the mailing list we lost the April 30th date.  Do we have a new one set?01:13
jacobskellat: not that I'm aware of. we can take this opportunity to select another date, however. :)01:14
Cheri703I vote for a saturday01:14
Derath-SrvrThere was talk about doing it on Sunday the 1st...01:15
Derath-Srvr(last that I heard from gilbert)01:15
jacobDerath-Srvr: that's about as much as I know as well01:15
skellatFor any event we need to have some lead time to announce it, too.01:15
jacobskellat: you are absolutely right01:15
Cheri703dmcglone may have reserved the room on the 1st01:15
Cheri703I can't remember01:15
thafreakI thought some one reserved may 1?01:15
jacobI don't believe anything is actually reserved at the moment. :/01:16
skellatThe last note from Gilbert that I saw was that we missed reserving anything and that Columbus Metropolitan Library is a little booked up right now.01:17
skellatThere was some limited chatter about needing to select an alternative venue01:17
jacob^. which we should definitely discuess01:17
jacobdiscuss* I can't type today01:17
* Cheri703 is going to check logs to see if a room was actually reserved01:18
gilchany idea how many people we are expecting to show?01:19
jacobCheri703: dmcglone emailed me about a week ago that the room hasn't been reserved, because we don't have a clear plan01:19
thafreakyeah, check the irc logs...i swear some one typed the phrase, ok it's reserved01:19
skellatjacob: I sent a husk of a press release to the council's list as it was since we didn't have a plan enunciated01:20
jacobskellat: I saw, and it's very well written, thanks for that :)01:21
skellatjacob: I just wish we had more to put in it!01:21
jacobskellat: I'm with you. hence this meeting01:21
Cheri703found it!01:23
Cheri703Apr 14 20:26:45 <dmcglone>Your meeting room request for Main Library 3rd Floor Board Room on Sunday, May 01, 2011, 1:00 PM - 5:00 PM has been received and is pending. You will be notified if there is a problem with the request.01:23
jacobanyway, I'm all ears for the most part. by the end of this meeting, it'd be nice to have answers to the where, when, and how01:23
jacobCheri703: hmm.01:23
jacobwell then.01:23
Cheri703I knew I'd seen it01:23
Cheri703I mean, I'm sure it could be canceled if necessary01:23
jacobthat's more recent, for sure. in that case... we're good on that front. :P01:23
skellatjacob: Did we ever hear that it was confirmed, though?  That's six days old.01:24
Cheri703he didn't specify01:24
Cheri703well, let me check the site to see if it's reserved01:24
jacobgood idea01:24
Cheri703it shows a reservation in there from 1-5, so I'd say so (it doesn't say WHO has it, but that's probably us)01:25
jacobit's likely; though we should probably get confirmation01:26
jacobi'll send him an email if he doesn't appear tonight to ask01:26
Cheri703jacob: when we get done with this topic, I have one thing for you about the website01:27
jacobCheri703: allrighty01:27
gilchare we talking about the Columbus Metropolitan Library?01:28
Cheri703yes, the main branch downtown01:28
jacob^01:29
jacobanyway, assuming that's all reserved -- is there anything of note that we should set up for the event? (sorry I seem a bit out of the loop, I'm running on 2 hours of sleep :P)01:30
skellatjacob: My crew won't be there as I've worked all of the 16 Sundays so far this year at my day job and only have #17 off because it is Easter01:31
Cheri703this is the list of things provided there: Maximum Capacity: 30, Standard Fixtures: Microwave, Refrigerator, Sink, Whiteboard, Wireless access, Standard Equipment: Cables to connect laptops, LCD Projector, TV/DVD01:32
jacobskellat: aww, that's too bad :/01:32
skellatjacob: That being said, having a digital voice recorder on-hand would be useful for recording something or other to release on Burning Circle01:32
jacobvalid point01:32
Cheri703I'm not sure about chairs/tables and such01:33
jacobCheri703: interesting, they don't list anything about that?01:34
Cheri703Tables and chairs are available.01:34
Cheri703it was on another page01:34
jacobah, ok. gooood. :)01:34
skellatOkay, the room's max capacity is 30 so a microphone and voice recorder are going to be essential so that others can take part after the fact.  What sort of speaking and/or presentations do we want to see go down?01:35
skellatState of the LoCo?01:35
skellatThe Joys of Unity?01:36
jacobshould we send out a call for speakers to the list or some sort?01:36
skellatI would narrow down topic areas first.01:36
Cheri703might toss in a suggestion box for ubucon at OLF...just a thought01:37
jacobCheri703: now that you mention it, I got an email about that today01:38
jacob(in short, to start planning for that)01:38
skellatHow about: Suggestion Box For Ubucon with a member of the High Council facilitating, First Impressions Of Unity, 2-minute bits about projects attendees are working on...01:38
skellatAt least 10-15 minutes would be good for introductions at the start01:39
jacobskellat: I like those ideas01:40
Cheri703is there any loco budget for refreshments? at least beverages?01:40
skellatCheri703: As keeper of the funds, I should note that the High Council last told me to conserve the funds still on-hand for OLF2011 costs01:40
Cheri703understandable01:41
gilchi agree01:41
gilchsave for OLF01:41
* Derath-Srvr nods01:41
jacob(I have no opinion on the matter, but OLF was the choice last time it was brought up in a meeting)01:41
Cheri703perhaps it can be semi-potluck, finger foods/drinks/etc. nothing messy since we're responsible for clean-up01:42
skellatThat'll be for the best.  How about making it bringing cookies and bottled water?01:42
Cheri703that works, I can bake something :)01:42
skellatCookies are usually the easiest to clean up01:43
Cheri703yeah, also perhaps a "help clean up and we'll meet up somewhere to eat afterwards" since it's done at 5. just a thought01:44
jacob+101:44
gilchif i remember correctly, i once saw somewhere on the community pages where we can post an event and you could post if you were attending or not.01:44
gilchdoes that ring a bell to anyone?01:44
jacobthe LoCo directory has something like that.01:45
skellatgilch: There was something for Global Jam for doing that but that wasn't on the team's server01:45
jacob(afk for a moment)01:45
skellatjacob: If that is available on the LoCo Directory then we need to plug that functionality hard so that we make use of it more01:45
Cheri703as much as I hate it, perhaps a fb event could be made?01:45
skellatCheri703: Maybe.  I'd avoid that by getting a press release out to a few media outlets across the state so they could put it in their upcoming events calendar features.01:47
Cheri703that'd work01:47
skellatCheri703: The easiest way to distribute the release would be for ReLoCo groups to send it onward to what they think are the bigger media outlets in their areas.  I figure hitting at least one newspaper and one radio station in each ReLoCo's area would provide decent coverage.01:49
gilchloco.ubuntu.com/events01:49
skellatgilch: Thank you for finding that!01:49
jacobthat is it01:49
skellatIf we can put the event there the press release can reflect that for people to find more info.01:49
jacobhttp://loco.ubuntu.com/events/team/910/detail/ <- registered an event stub01:51
skellatExcellent.  I can get the press release edited later to reflect that.01:52
gilchnice01:53
gilchis it possible to get some CDs of Natty by then?01:55
jacobgilch: CDs are in processing; they _should_ be shipped to Jon (itsafork) by the time the event comes01:56
Derath-Srvrwas thinking the same thing... I have an event coming up may 14th that i would need cds for01:57
skellatAdd a card table plus some purple tablecloth from a dollar store so that somebody could be set up outside the meeting room to distribute discs01:57
gilchactually.. jacob, do you still have the banner from OLF last year?01:58
jacobgilch: indeed I do01:58
skellatThat would work too01:58
jacobcan definitely bring that01:58
skellatOptimally disc distribution would be a hook to get people inside to check out presentations, perhaps.01:59
jacobindeed01:59
gilchso what else?02:00
Cheri703maybe print out a description of the talks, print out a flyer about ubuntu loco and/or print up business cards or something to also put on the table (talk descriptions could be taped to door or something)02:00
Derath-SrvrI still have a box of business cards02:01
Cheri703ok02:01
skellatCheri703: A general flyer about the LoCo would be good.  Even at the best planned academic conference, descriptions of talks & sessions are kept general in case things go madly off in all directions.02:02
Cheri703yeah, true02:02
gilchin my mind, i pictured the talks being a little less formal. i mean if someone has an idea of something they want to talk about, we can for sure advertise it...02:03
Cheri703k02:03
gilchbut i dont think we need a 2:00 - 2:30, sam is giving a presentation on Unity...02:03
skellatThere should be a thread binding presentations together, though.02:03
gilchor specifics like that02:03
skellatI'd go for something thematic.  1300-1400 is hardcore discussion of Unity, 1400-1500 is more beginner-focused...02:04
jacobI like the sound of that02:05
skellatA "Q&A For The Curious" about Linux would probably be good too02:05
gilchok. i can live with that02:06
skellatHow about this: Q&A For The Curious then Overview of Natty then progressively more geeky themes02:07
skellatI suppose that would kinda be like an in-person analogue to Open Week02:08
gilberthey, sorry i'm late for the meeting02:09
gilbert(really late)02:09
Cheri703we're still going :)02:10
jacobgilbert: heya, what's up02:11
gilchjacob: on a side note, i have to talk to you about cr-48 sometime02:13
jacobgilch: mmm, yesss :D02:13
skellatCan anybody recap for gilbert's benefit what we've thrashed out so far?02:13
jacobfancy little device.02:13
gilbertskellat: just scanned through the log, so i'm caught up02:14
gilchyeah i almost bricked mine. :(02:14
gilbertso, room is *not* reserved (at least by me)02:14
jacobgilch: I haven't experimented much02:14
jacobgilbert: dmcglone may have reserved it recently02:14
gilbertjacob: ok, i'll follow-up with him02:15
jacobgilbert: allrighty02:15
gilbertin the meantime, it's coming up soon, and we don't really have a plan (and that's my fault since i've been so busy lately)02:15
gilberti wonder if we shouldn't push it back a few weeks?02:15
jacobit's no one person's fault, we all really dropped the ball.02:16
gilchgilbert: we kind of have a plan now02:16
jacoband gilch is right to an extent :)02:16
gilbertgilch: oh, what's that? i didn't pick that up from quickly scanning the chat02:16
skellatgilbert: It involves a card table02:17
jacobheh.02:17
Cheri703we wouldn't want to decide that without firmly understanding cancellation policies (one of the "reasons for declining a reservation" includes "not showing up for scheduled timeslots" so...we'd need to make sure it's cool to change it)02:17
gilchwell, it appears as if we have a time slot reserved. and we have discussed a time-slot type talks Unity, Beginners, etc02:18
skellatAnd a card table bearing a banner set up outside the room for discs to be handed out and otherwise be the hook to get people inside02:18
jacobI think having concrete talks may be the main issue, but we're going somewhere, at least.02:18
gilchthe big thing is the just making sure that 1-5 slot is in fact ours02:19
jacobthat too02:19
gilbertjacob: i can send a "call for talks" to the ml02:19
gilchif we do not here from dmcglone by tomorrow, can we call the library and find out02:19
skellatWe've got the event up on the locoevents list which means we could finish up the press release and focus on getting details onto the locoevents listing with the press release merely pointing people towards the locoevents listing02:20
jacobgilbert: that's what i was thinking, though skellat mentioned it might be a good idea to come up with some topics at first02:20
skellatgilbert: Carving out broad thematic areas for talks to fall within would make setting things up a little easier02:20
gilbertskellat: agreed02:21
gilchskellat: i like your ideas about Unity and Beginners02:21
skellatUnity, Natty Overview, and "Q&A For The Curious" are three things I've already thrown out there02:21
gilchyes, those02:22
gilbertso, i was thinking a couple hours at the beginning for informal stuff anyway: help with installs, question/answers, education, things like that02:22
Cheri703maybe also some info on 10.04 lts and/or 10.10 (not necessarily a talk, but info available, for those who are turned off by the unity interface)02:22
skellatgilbert: Only have four hours for the event, though02:22
gilbertskellat: that sounds like a good starter list02:22
gilbertskellat: yeah, but i don't think we're going to get enough speakers for that whole time02:23
Cheri703skellat, gilbert: we could have it set up with chairs/place for speaker on one side, and a "come here with questions/for help" area on the other side02:23
Cheri703just quietly discuss over there02:23
skellatgilbert: Don't forget to leave time for Q&A after presentations02:23
gilbertskellat: true02:24
gilchCheri: i like that02:24
Cheri703that way if someone isn't interested in a particular talk, or already knows the material, they can help/socialize a bit over there02:24
gilbertCheri703: seems doable02:25
skellatCheri703: That works as long as the room is big enough02:25
Cheri703if someone has some of those "hi my name is" tags, that'd be good02:25
skellatCheri703: I wonder if there is a LibreOffice template that can be customized for making those name tags02:25
Cheri703probably something available02:26
Cheri703if nothing else, I have a bunch of 3x5 cards and someone can bring tape :)02:26
gilchalright, i'm off. good talk guys. i will read the rest of the logs in the morning02:26
skellatgilch: Goodnight02:26
jacobi may need to head out soon as well, but i'll stay around as long as i can02:28
Cheri703jacob: my question for you on the website: there are multiple relocos (I believe, definitely at least ours) that aren't on http://ohio.ubuntu-us.org/reloco  it'd be great if that could get updated02:29
gilbertso, have we decided who is taking responsibility for the various things that need to get done?02:29
jacobCheri703: was just about to ask :)02:29
gilbertCheri703: i'd prefer to move that info to the wiki (which i think anyone can change)02:29
Cheri703well, statement. if at least mansfield could get added, or a call made to the list for any others that need to be put on there02:29
Cheri703ok02:30
jacobCheri703: hmm, yes, that page is sorely out-of-date02:30
Cheri703then we need to point there from that page02:30
Cheri703because that's what people will likely see first02:30
Cheri703or remove it all together02:30
gilbertCheri703: yes, i'd remove it02:30
jacobCheri703: i'll make a note to get that page updated here real soon02:30
gilbertCheri703: i'd like to move everything to the wiki02:30
jacobor removal, actually, wiki is a good point02:30
Cheri703ok02:31
jacobin fact: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OhioTeam/ReLoCos02:31
jacobwould anyone object if the page on the website redirected to there?02:31
skellatjacob: That would work nicely02:31
Cheri703yeah, that'd be fine with me02:32
gilbertjacob: that would be good02:33
jacobupdated the site navigation to point there :)02:33
gilberton that subject, it would be nice for all of the reloco leads add their prefered email address there?02:34
Cheri703uhm, I'd prefer not to...perhaps a "if you'd like to contact your reloco, email the list for info"02:35
Cheri703or something02:35
Derath-SrvrAlso to add to the reloco thing... Dayton is in need of a new reloco lead02:35
Cheri703because I'm definitely going to notice someone emailing about the mansfield reloco02:35
Cheri703also, added ours :) thanks02:36
gilbertDerath-Srvr: you've gotta tap a replacement out there ;)02:36
Derath-SrvrAgain, aside from paulv, i know of none others that are capable nor interested02:36
gilbertDerath-Srvr: in fact i could use your help in columbus.  i wasn't able to attend the regularly scheduled hour tonight :(02:36
Derath-SrvrAnd I can't say that I can attend them regularly either...02:37
Derath-Srvrbtw, that campus is a pita is find parking in...02:37
Derath-Srvrand getting over there was challenging as well02:37
gilbertDerath-Srvr: true, we should probably find a location with easier access02:37
jacobDerath-Srvr: gotta love the expensive parking :P02:37
gilbertDerath-Srvr: but being close to campus is nice since it makes it a short trip for students02:38
gilbertDerath-Srvr: we could try something near columbus state instead02:38
Cheri703actually (though it doesn't affect me at all) I'd say you guys should try further north somewhere02:38
Cheri703parking expands as you go north02:40
jacobsorry, i've got to sign off. will check the logs tomorrow, but we're making progress. cheers all02:41
* Derath-Srvr shrugs02:42
gilbertgotta go too.  appologies for the late appearance and short stay.02:42
skellatGoodnight everybody.  Let us not forget to get the venue confirmed Thursday.  All the planning kinda hinges on that.02:43
Unit193I think that just ended the meeting...02:44
skellatUnit193: It happens02:45
Unit193skellat: Did you happen to get the email I sent awhile ago? ( paultag told me to contact you)02:47
skellatUnit193: I can't recall.  I had systems die on me to where I was stuck with just a smartphone for a while.  I ended up purchasing new hardware from System76.02:48
Unit193skellat: Getting stuck with just a smartphone couldn't have been to easy to get everything done...02:50
skellatUnit193: Nope.02:50
Unit193skellat: I'm the guy that had two Mac G3s02:51
skellatUnit193: Ah, yes.  How are those working for you?02:52
Unit193skellat: Still running Mac os 8.6 and 9.0. I was haveing issues with installing and with Ubuntu dropping PPC ports, I'm thinking maybe debian would be better.02:55
skellatUnit193: PPC isn't officially supported but it is available.  The best way to go would be to install using the minimal installer here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD02:57
skellatUnit193: Building from that is usually the easiest way to go.  It would be roughly the same install experience Debian would give you.02:57
skellatUnit193: I gotta go for the night.  Hopefully those images help you get started installing.03:01
Unit193Hello itsafork03:04
itsaforkhey guys, sorry i missed the meeting. my final got rescheduled & i just got out of it03:05
itsaforkwhat did i miss from the meeting???03:06
itsaforkhey Unit193!! how've you been??03:06
Unit193Good?03:06
Unit193You?03:07
itsaforki've been well! & employeed! lol03:07
Unit193You sounded very excited!03:08
itsaforkhaha! of course,  it's always a good thing to pay your rent on time03:09
Unit193They are going to have random talks at the thing in C-bus (from 1-5)03:09
itsaforkis there a sign-up sheet/list for doing giving talks??03:10
Unit193It was going to be sent on the ML03:10
itsaforkwell at least we aren't just standing up there picking our noses & saying "hi, this is ubuntu"03:11
Unit193Unity, Natty Overview, and "Q&A For The Curious" are some ideas03:12
itsaforkhuh! ok, i'm liking the sounds of these so far03:13
Unit193(Other then you being one of the LoCo leads) Am I supposed to know you?03:13
itsaforkhonestly, a lot of people are supprised to realise who i actually am when that meet me face to face.03:19
itsaforkwhere you at OLF last year?? i was the LoCoHio contact running all of that show, & helping to put all of that together03:21
itsaforkof course with TONS of help from Amber Graner03:21
Unit193No, the only thing I have been to is Ubuntu Hour03:21
itsaforkwhich i'm usually still at work or in class during, unfortunately03:23
Unit193What one would you go to?03:24
itsaforkthe one at panera bread on osu campus03:25
itsaforkyou?03:25
Unit193Mansfield...03:27
itsaforkoh ok, you're up there with cheri! right?!?03:27
Unit193Yeah... just a few of us03:28
Cheri703yep03:28
itsaforkhey there lady, how's things?!?03:29
Cheri703going alright overall03:29
Cheri703headed to UDS!03:30
Cheri703got sponsorship03:30
itsaforkOH SNAP!!!03:31
Cheri703yeah, I'm super excited!!03:31
itsaforki'm not sure why i just said that.... dont judge me03:31
itsaforklol03:31
Cheri703heh03:31
Cheri703my reaction was along the lines of OMG O.o WHAAAAA?!03:31
itsaforkthat's really supper awesome! are you allowed to say who it is??03:32
Cheri703?03:32
canthus13eh?03:32
Cheri703Canonical does the sponsoring03:32
canthus13No. she can't say who the father is.03:32
Cheri703I applied and was chosen03:32
canthus13Cheri703: Bah. you ruined it.03:32
canthus13:P03:32
itsafork*face-palm*03:33
Cheri703also some amazing folks from ubuntu-women helped chip in so I could pay for my passport :) /me is poooooooor03:33
Cheri703I'm so excited03:35
Cheri703this will be the first time leaving the US03:35
itsaforki'm pretty impressed cheri703, congrats!03:35
Cheri703nice03:36
Cheri703sorry, wrong window!03:37
Cheri703and thanks :)03:37
Unit193Cheri703, itsafork: Do you think you will be going to the thing in C-Bus?03:38
Cheri703I'm hoping to03:38
Cheri703oh, itsafork I am also getting my own business going :)03:39
Cheri703I left my old job because my bosses were insane jerks03:39
Unit193Cheri703: Would you be going (if you could go) for the whole thing?03:46
canthus13Has there actually been a decision on what exactly the thing in C-bus is?03:48
Cheri703uhm, if I can drive, then yeah, if I'm a passenger, then as long as my ride stays03:51
Derath-SrvrHi all13:40
thafreakBAH16:36
canthus13Eh?16:39
thafreakI'm stuck in a lecture16:47
thafreakmy boss was afraid not enough people would show up16:48
thafreakwell, the talk is kind of interesting atleast....even though I'm not a materials scientist or chemist16:49
Derath-Srvrwb freak18:16
canthus13thafreak: Could be worse.  It could be a drug-free employee training.19:00
thafreakhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXmv8quf_xM&feature=youtu.be19:01
thafreaktypical windows user I think19:02
Derath-Srvrsigh... youtube is blocked here19:06
Derath-Srvras is facebook, and anything with the word blog in it... lol19:06
canthus13Heh. can't watch.  I'm at work.19:08
canthus13Derath-Srvr: Facebook is blocked here.. I juse FreeNX to log into my machine at home, can get to it from there. :)19:08
thafreakhah, well bookmark this one for when you get home too19:13
thafreakhttp://www.cracked.com/article_19160_8-scenes-that-prove-hollywood-doesnt-get-technology.html19:13
thafreakhillarious19:13
thafreak"Luckily, I speek 1337"19:16
thafreakoh brother...19:16
Derath-SrvrLUG meeting tonight... excited to get to go to it... just kinda sucks that i don't get home until 10pm or so...19:43
Derath-SrvrAt least I'll get to work on the powerpoints for the class I teach on Sat.19:43
thafreakanyone watch that new show "breaking in" yet?20:12
Derath-SrvrWanted to, guess I'll have to find a linux-friendly site that has it...20:51
Derath-Srvrmaybe my "Canadian site" will have it available to watch ;)20:51
thafreakcanthus13: you said you setup freenx right? You use a ppa?21:48
thafreakyou just go by this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeNX ?21:50
Derath-Srvrlaters all22:03
canthus13thafreak: I used the instructions in the wiki.22:08
canthus13that one. :)22:08
canthus13don't skip any steps or it won't work right (with maverick or lucid, anyway..)22:09
Cheri703http://graphjam.memebase.com/2011/04/21/funny-graphs-yay-us22:43
canthus13Meh. Puerto Rico isn't a country. It's a US Territory.22:47
Unit193Cheri703: Anyone there?23:20
Cheri703 no...*maybe* gillyman might be coming, not 100% sure yet...had several people confirmed, and then cancel :(23:20
Cheri703it's ok though23:20
* Cheri703 had a smoothie and a bagel :)23:20
Cheri703so I'm content23:20
Unit193Is husband there? (never remember his name....23:24
Cheri703Alden, and no23:24
Cheri703(and I generally refer to him as husband, so that's fine :) )23:24

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