| vychune | o/ | 00:14 |
|---|---|---|
| vychune | heyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy | 01:00 |
| chris4585 | pace_t_zulu, I was until today, basically instead of basename which gives you the filename, it will give you the dir up until the filename | 01:07 |
| chris4585 | I didn't know it existed until today | 01:07 |
| chris4585 | chris@RX881:~$ basename Movies.txt | 01:08 |
| chris4585 | Movies.txt | 01:08 |
| chris4585 | chris@RX881:~$ dirname /home/chris/Movies.txt | 01:08 |
| chris4585 | /home/chris | 01:08 |
| chris4585 | simple but powerful.. | 01:08 |
| chris4585 | or rather | 01:09 |
| chris4585 | chris@RX881:~$ basename /home/chris/Movies.txt | 01:09 |
| chris4585 | Movies.txt | 01:09 |
| linuxman410 | anyone here | 01:18 |
| vychune | me | 01:25 |
| vychune | need some help with sum? | 01:26 |
| linuxman410 | ubuntu 11.04 is junk i cannot get it to go full screen on my 22 inch monitotr even in classic mode | 01:26 |
| chris4585 | linuxman410, is there an auto button? | 01:27 |
| linuxman410 | on monitor | 01:27 |
| vychune | how old is the monitor | 01:28 |
| linuxman410 | monitor is a couple of years old about 2 | 01:28 |
| linuxman410 | is chakra a rolling release | 01:29 |
| vychune | tryed the auto adjust? | 01:29 |
| linuxman410 | tried the auto ajust nothing | 01:29 |
| chris4585 | linuxman410, yes | 01:29 |
| vychune | what model? | 01:29 |
| chris4585 | linuxman410, have you tried rebooting with 11.04? | 01:30 |
| linuxman410 | it is a gateway 22 in monitor | 01:30 |
| vychune | drivers? | 01:30 |
| linuxman410 | i have rebooted a bunch of times only shows up on right half of screen | 01:30 |
| linuxman410 | 10.10 worked just fine same monitor | 01:31 |
| vychune | login screen does the same thing/ | 01:32 |
| vychune | ? | 01:32 |
| linuxman410 | yes | 01:32 |
| chris4585 | linuxman410, does the video card have multiple outputs and one plugged in possibly? | 01:33 |
| chris4585 | linuxman410, what happens if you try ctrl+al+f2 ? | 01:33 |
| chris4585 | alt* | 01:33 |
| linuxman410 | nothing | 01:34 |
| chris4585 | strange.. | 01:35 |
| vychune | mooooooooooooo | 01:35 |
| chris4585 | linuxman410, perhaps you should wait until the final is released to try again? | 01:35 |
| linuxman410 | chris4585 is chakra secure enough to pay bills as long as it is updated | 01:35 |
| vychune | does the live cd do the same? | 01:35 |
| linuxman410 | vychune yes | 01:35 |
| vychune | damn | 01:35 |
| vychune | u may need the drivers this time | 01:36 |
| vychune | brb | 01:36 |
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| chris4585 | linuxman410, I would say so, but it is alpha - beta | 01:37 |
| linuxman410 | chris4585 either that or i am going to try fedora 15 and see what it does | 01:39 |
| linuxman410 | chris4585 i need to find a rolling release instead of one i have to reinstall all the time | 01:41 |
| chris4585 | fedora 15 is also beta but it looks nice with gnome 3 | 01:41 |
| chris4585 | linuxman410, well arch / chakra is that | 01:41 |
| linuxman410 | i am downloading chakra right now | 01:42 |
| chris4585 | I saw a 28min review earlier today on fedora 15 | 01:42 |
| linuxman410 | i have been using fedora since it first came out on and off | 01:43 |
| linuxman410 | chris4585 there are just a bunch of knuckleheads in their irc channel though | 01:44 |
| linuxman410 | they always have something smart to say when u ask a question | 01:46 |
| chris4585 | I wouldn't know I try to figure things out my own way.. and don't bother asking in support channels | 01:49 |
| chris4585 | usually it leads no where | 01:49 |
| linuxman410 | chris4585 fedora 15 does not work either | 01:56 |
| linuxman410 | so next | 01:56 |
| linuxman410 | chakra is next | 01:57 |
| chris4585 | maybe its something to do with your drivers? | 01:59 |
| chris4585 | what video card do you have? | 01:59 |
| linuxman410 | intel 845 built in | 02:00 |
| linuxman410 | i booted up tried to change resolution it will not let me | 02:01 |
| vychune_unclelou | then it is the drivers and i said that long ago | 02:02 |
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| linuxman410 | but it works fine with 10.10\ | 02:03 |
| vychune | the drivers may have been removed | 02:04 |
| linuxman410 | well if ubuntu removed drivers for a video card i will have to find another os | 02:05 |
| linuxman410 | my | 02:06 |
| linuxman410 | video card | 02:06 |
| linuxman410 | cause i cannot afford new hardware | 02:07 |
| linuxman410 | ubuntu does not have to act like windows release a upgrade and have to buy a new computer | 02:08 |
| vychune | just install it | 02:08 |
| vychune | and i may be worng | 02:08 |
| linuxman410 | vychune it did not find no restricted drivers | 02:08 |
| vychune | oh yeah forgot about that daig | 02:12 |
| chris4585 | linuxman410, I would wait and see the final released to make final judgments | 02:12 |
| vychune | *diag | 02:12 |
| linuxman410 | well if it does not support it with final release then i change oses | 02:13 |
| linuxman410 | see everyone is suping up linux so it does not run on old hardware no more even lubuntu is going to unity | 02:15 |
| linuxman410 | debian 6 did not go to unity they stayed regular gnome | 02:16 |
| linuxman410 | debian 6 still supports old hardware | 02:17 |
| linuxman410 | even freegeek in portland is still with ubuntu 8.04 according to their website | 02:21 |
| vychune | smh | 02:24 |
| chris4585 | linuxman410, wha? lubuntu going to unity? | 02:30 |
| linuxman410 | yes i sam subsribed to their email and lubuntu is going to unity | 02:33 |
| chris4585 | well before you put it down have you tried unity 2d? | 02:37 |
| chris4585 | it uses qt which might work kind of well on older computers | 02:37 |
| linuxman410 | chris4585 i tried unity 2d same thing half a screen cannot change resolution | 02:38 |
| chris4585 | linuxman410, this appears to be a driver issue, unity 2d wouldn't have a thing to do with that though | 02:39 |
| linuxman410 | chris4585 maybe it is a glitch in the beta | 02:40 |
| chris4585 | maybe | 02:40 |
| chris4585 | I've been running it for the past ~3months | 02:40 |
| chris4585 | fedora does some things strangely.. why is the iso file named .diso ? | 02:48 |
| chris4585 | whoo torrents are awesome, downloading the fedora iso in less than 5mins | 02:52 |
| vychune | LOL | 03:10 |
| chris4585 | I wont lie, I'm a bit over surprised and shocked by how well fedora 15 is.. | 03:14 |
| vychune | lol brb | 03:14 |
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| chris4585lappy | I'm loving gnome3, and starting to think ubuntu made the wrong decision.. | 05:00 |
| Juzzy | welcome to ubuntu | 05:20 |
| Juzzy | ;/ | 05:20 |
| Juzzy | I'm so not impressed with ubuntu desktop | 05:20 |
| chris4585lappy | Juzzy, unity is alright but doesn't compare to gnome3 | 05:39 |
| wrst | chris4585: I agree what distro are you using gnome 3 on? | 11:47 |
| cyberanger | wrst: your up early, bad night? | 12:04 |
| wrst | no cyberanger just the usual | 13:03 |
| wrst | how are you doing cyberanger? | 13:03 |
| cyberanger | reasonable | 13:03 |
| cyberanger | some things have simplified, some things are complicated | 13:04 |
| cyberanger | it's just a funny week | 13:04 |
| wrst | such seems to be the course of life :) | 13:04 |
| cyberanger | indeed | 13:05 |
| vychune | o/ | 14:18 |
| Xpistos | Hey vychune | 14:29 |
| vychune | long time no see dude | 14:29 |
| Xpistos | seriously | 14:29 |
| Xpistos | wrst where be you | 14:29 |
| Xpistos | pace_t_zulu | 14:29 |
| Xpistos | need some cron love over her dudes | 14:30 |
| vychune | lol | 14:30 |
| Xpistos | vychune: what you got going on today brutha | 14:30 |
| wrst | hey pace_t_zulu | 14:30 |
| vychune | linuxmanyou awake? | 14:30 |
| wrst | i mean hey Xpistos :) | 14:30 |
| Xpistos | lol | 14:30 |
| vychune | sit around doing nothing | 14:30 |
| Xpistos | is that a Greek Slur? | 14:30 |
| Xpistos | ! | 14:30 |
| Xpistos | ? | 14:31 |
| wrst | not intentional :) | 14:31 |
| vychune | my job left for jackso, TN im all alone | 14:31 |
| Xpistos | Is that good or not good? | 14:31 |
| vychune | not good | 14:31 |
| vychune | im broke that the Govt | 14:32 |
| vychune | *broker | 14:32 |
| Xpistos | I feel ya | 14:33 |
| Xpistos | I am broke as a joke | 14:33 |
| Xpistos | I am so Poo, I can't afford the R | 14:33 |
| Xpistos | I am so broke, I can't afford to pay attention | 14:33 |
| cyberanger | Xpistos: cron you say | 14:34 |
| Xpistos | I am looking at the dog eat everymorning and thinking two things: Man that Alpo looks good OR Doggie Kabobs? | 14:34 |
| Xpistos | cyberanger: | 14:34 |
| vychune | ROTFLLOL | 14:34 |
| pace_t_zulu | Xpistos: i probably can't be available till this afternoon... but i'll be happy to help then | 14:36 |
| Xpistos | pace_t_zulu: Oh well, I have church crap and teenage son in school crap to do then, but we will hook up later | 14:37 |
| Xpistos | cyberanger: I ask #linux about cron stuff and i get "man cron" doesn't quite help me here | 14:38 |
| vychune | lol | 14:39 |
| pace_t_zulu | Xpistos: maybe i can help quickly... what are you trying to do? | 14:39 |
| pace_t_zulu | ... | 14:41 |
| pace_t_zulu | well i have to go... catch y'all later | 14:43 |
| Xpistos | Damn my work sched! | 14:45 |
| wrst | Xpistos: what are you trying to do ? | 14:49 |
| cyberanger | Xpistos: sounds about right | 14:54 |
| cyberanger | what's the details here | 14:54 |
| Xpistos | ok | 14:56 |
| Xpistos | I have to set an email backup to run at 1 am every morning | 14:57 |
| Xpistos | the catch is, I can't test it because it will shut down the email server | 14:57 |
| Xpistos | The command is a preset script | 14:57 |
| Xpistos | what I need to do is tell the cron to run the script everday | 14:57 |
| Xpistos | I tried crontab -e | 14:58 |
| Xpistos | and added the script, but | 14:58 |
| Xpistos | no love | 14:58 |
| Xpistos | and I don't know where to find it now? | 14:58 |
| Xpistos | Thank You! | 14:58 |
| * Xpistos bows and then puts the business end of his glock in his mouth | 14:58 | |
| Xpistos | I am a WEEE bit frustrated with this | 14:59 |
| Xpistos | Which you all know is so out of character for me | 14:59 |
| cyberanger | Xpistos: don't do that, that's a waste of a perfectly good bullet | 14:59 |
| cyberanger | wait, that didn't come out right | 14:59 |
| Xpistos | ouch | 15:00 |
| cyberanger | what did you put into crontab when you did that | 15:00 |
| Xpistos | let's see | 15:01 |
| Xpistos | 0 1 * * * root /usr/src/ oZimbraBackup_1.0.1/oZimbraBackup.sh | 15:01 |
| cyberanger | hrm | 15:03 |
| cyberanger | something seems off on that, let me compare mine | 15:04 |
| Xpistos | and I do crontab -e to add it | 15:06 |
| cyberanger | seems I may have spotted the issue, | 15:07 |
| cyberanger | sudo crontab -e to edit it | 15:07 |
| cyberanger | include adding additional jobs | 15:08 |
| cyberanger | why the space here "/usr/src/ oZimbraBackup_1.0.1/oZimbraBackup.sh" | 15:08 |
| Xpistos | well as much as you are going to hate this it is in the user account. Not my decision and I have bitched about ti before | 15:08 |
| Xpistos | no space | 15:08 |
| Xpistos | /usr/src/oZimbraBackup_1.0.1/oZimbraBackup.sh | 15:09 |
| cyberanger | so "0 1 * * * root /usr/src/ oZimbraBackup_1.0.1/oZimbraBackup.sh" was a typo? | 15:09 |
| cyberanger | the cronjob is? or the backup? | 15:10 |
| Xpistos | yues | 15:22 |
| Xpistos | no space in the cronjob | 15:22 |
| cyberanger | Xpistos: is that the line nano shows with sudo crontab -e? | 15:23 |
| cyberanger | if so, I think I see the issue | 15:24 |
| Xpistos | let me check | 15:24 |
| vychune | o/ | 15:27 |
| cyberanger | hey vychune | 15:27 |
| cyberanger | does your arm ever get tired? :-) | 15:28 |
| vychune | of doing what? | 15:28 |
| Xpistos | cyberanger: nano doesn't show anything | 15:29 |
| Xpistos | I don't see the job anywhere and not sure where to look | 15:30 |
| Xpistos | This is also a Centos Based server | 15:30 |
| vychune | member:identifier:xpistos still working on cron huh? | 15:30 |
| Xpistos | yep | 15:30 |
| cyberanger | Xpistos: sudo crontab -e shows nothing? | 15:31 |
| Xpistos | yep | 15:31 |
| Xpistos | I added it by typing cronjob -e and a vi editor openend , which I can't stand | 15:32 |
| wrst | Xpistos: nano is for little girls ;) | 15:37 |
| * wrst uses nano :) | 15:37 | |
| Xpistos | cyberanger: should I add it that way? | 15:37 |
| cyberanger | yes | 15:37 |
| Xpistos | or should I be in /etc/cron.daily and at it there | 15:37 |
| cyberanger | wrst: vi is a pain though | 15:37 |
| Xpistos | or add it there | 15:37 |
| cyberanger | Xpistos: crontab it | 15:38 |
| Xpistos | wrst: So I am a little girl | 15:38 |
| wrst | i agree cyberanger, i don't understand the vi love? | 15:38 |
| Xpistos | how do I edit it with nano? | 15:38 |
| Xpistos | crontab -e opens vi | 15:38 |
| cyberanger | Xpistos: sudo crontab -e | 15:38 |
| cyberanger | oh, your editor isn't, right | 15:38 |
| Xpistos | rihgt | 15:39 |
| cyberanger | check that nano is an option first | 15:39 |
| Xpistos | how | 15:39 |
| Xpistos | oh it is | 15:39 |
| cyberanger | ok | 15:39 |
| * Xpistos starts singing a Justin Bieber song in the corner ... | 15:40 | |
| Xpistos | "baby, baby, baby" | 15:40 |
| cyberanger | Xpistos: type 'which nano' if you would | 15:41 |
| Xpistos | /user/bin/nano | 15:41 |
| cyberanger | and please don't do that again, each time Bieber sings, a kitten is mauled to death | 15:41 |
| * Xpistos hates cats | 15:42 | |
| Xpistos | I feel a chorus of Never Say Never coming up | 15:42 |
| cyberanger | this just makes sure we can do this, we'll come back to adding it long term | 15:42 |
| cyberanger | 'EDITOR=/user/bin/nano sudo crontab -e' | 15:43 |
| vychune | what is so wrong with justin bieber? | 15:43 |
| Xpistos | lol | 15:44 |
| Xpistos | "user" | 15:45 |
| Xpistos | okay I see it now | 15:45 |
| cyberanger | vychune: should I list alphabetically or chronalogicly | 15:45 |
| vychune | whatever works for you | 15:46 |
| cyberanger | vychune: Usher as a role model would be a good start | 15:47 |
| Xpistos | Okay I am looknig at it in cron | 15:47 |
| vychune | whats wrong with that? | 15:47 |
| Xpistos | # Email backup to windows server | 15:47 |
| Xpistos | 0 1 * * * root /usr/src/ oZimbraBackup_1.0.1/oZimbraBackup.sh -msg-diff > /dev/null 2>&1 | 15:47 |
| vychune | as long as you dont look behind the scenes | 15:48 |
| Xpistos | "Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain" | 15:48 |
| vychune | pointing and picking the women he wants | 15:48 |
| Xpistos | cyberanger: oh, and for some reason my "A" record was point to the wrong place at godaddy that is why my ssh wasn't working | 15:52 |
| Xpistos | so a few more days | 15:53 |
| cyberanger | Xpistos: ah | 15:54 |
| cyberanger | I'm seeing a space again | 15:54 |
| cyberanger | that's part of it | 15:55 |
| cyberanger | "0 1 * * * root /usr/src/ oZimbraBackup_1.0.1/oZimbraBackup.sh -msg-diff > /dev/null 2>&1" | 15:55 |
| Xpistos | damn | 15:55 |
| Xpistos | I didn't see that | 15:55 |
| cyberanger | that's what you have? | 15:55 |
| cyberanger | and remove root | 15:55 |
| cyberanger | it's implied anyhow | 15:55 |
| cyberanger | those two should allow it to run | 15:56 |
| cyberanger | provided permissions are right, and the script itself works | 15:56 |
| Xpistos | 0 1 * * * /usr/src/oZimbraBackup_1.0.1/oZimbraBackup.sh -msg-diff > /dev/null 2>&1 | 15:56 |
| cyberanger | sudo chmod +x /usr/src/oZimbraBackup_1.0.1/oZimbraBackup.sh | 15:56 |
| cyberanger | yes | 15:56 |
| Xpistos | I am checking that right now | 15:57 |
| cyberanger | actually, in crontab -e, I'd change 0 1 to 0 3 | 15:58 |
| Xpistos | why? | 15:58 |
| Xpistos | can I change the name of the file? | 15:58 |
| cyberanger | 1 AM for email seems likely, we've chatted past 1AM before | 15:58 |
| Xpistos | cause it is saving it as /tmp/crontab.XXXhpDzjV | 15:58 |
| Xpistos | these are for work not home | 15:58 |
| Xpistos | so 6pm everyone is gone | 15:59 |
| cyberanger | ah, then that's good | 15:59 |
| Xpistos | I would like the file to be called crontab.embackup | 15:59 |
| cyberanger | don't change that, it's being saved to tmp cause there is a script that follows that takes it an has it applied to the current cron daemon | 16:00 |
| cyberanger | when you close, that file will vanish shortly | 16:00 |
| Xpistos | cdit has full permissions | 16:01 |
| Xpistos | it has full perms | 16:01 |
| Xpistos | yes I don't see it there | 16:01 |
| Xpistos | now if I want to edit it. Where can I find it? | 16:01 |
| Xpistos | and I have two other crontab.XXXX files that do show up | 16:02 |
| Xpistos | can I delete those | 16:02 |
| cyberanger | their in /tmp right? | 16:02 |
| Xpistos | yes | 16:02 |
| cyberanger | leave them | 16:03 |
| Xpistos | ok | 16:03 |
| cyberanger | that directory has a way of managing itself | 16:03 |
| cyberanger | short of any real problems | 16:03 |
| vychune | did i get kicked or something | 16:22 |
| cyberanger | you quit | 16:24 |
| cyberanger | according to the message I see, perhaps a networking glitch | 16:25 |
| vychune | mustve stepped on my wire | 16:36 |
| chris4585 | wrst, fedora and it was all beautiful | 16:38 |
| cyberanger | I keep trying to do that at the library, used to wires, wifi is just so odd | 16:39 |
| cyberanger | chris4585: and yum? | 16:39 |
| cyberanger | Xpistos: but you cannot test it, right? | 16:39 |
| Xpistos | not now | 16:39 |
| Xpistos | but I will know in the morning | 16:39 |
| chris4585 | cyberanger, I don't know the first thing about yum | 16:39 |
| Xpistos | I am off tomorrow, but I will check it to make sure cause we need to get this retnetion policy setup | 16:40 |
| Xpistos | well this one uses apt actually | 16:40 |
| Xpistos | CentOS with Apt-Get | 16:40 |
| Xpistos | Clear OS - gateway/firewall | 16:40 |
| wrst | chris4585: i agree with you about unity | 16:40 |
| chris4585 | unity could be as good as gnome but I think mark has blinders on | 16:41 |
| cyberanger | Xpistos: perhaps we want to edit it one more then, have output to a file, instead of /dev/null | 16:41 |
| cyberanger | further proof it's working, and we'll go back once it is | 16:41 |
| wrst | chris4585: i agree why depart from gnome 3 when it is very good now and will only improve | 16:42 |
| Xpistos | well the script will shutdown the email server so that can't happen now | 16:42 |
| wrst | you could put the ubuntu touch on it and have something much better out of the box | 16:42 |
| chris4585 | exactly | 16:42 |
| wrst | chris4585: i think unity looks dated/old compared to gnome 3 | 16:42 |
| Xpistos | you can add gnome 3 to ubuntu | 16:42 |
| chris4585 | a little bit, its not as dynamic | 16:42 |
| chris4585 | indeed you can but thats not the argument | 16:42 |
| chris4585 | the argument is that ubuntu made the wrong choice | 16:43 |
| wrst | yes chris4585 | 16:43 |
| wrst | i certainly agree | 16:43 |
| wrst | chris4585: i love ubuntu but i don't see me using it much with unity | 16:43 |
| chris4585 | yeah, I'm currently using ubuntu / unity on my desktop and wish I had gnome 3 on it, but I'm keeping unity to see how it turns out by release | 16:45 |
| chris4585 | fedora / gnome3 on my laptop and its so awesome.. | 16:45 |
| wrst | chris4585: i agree i was shocked at how well i liked gnome 3 after hearing all the negatives against it | 16:47 |
| wrst | there are some work flow things that take some getting used to | 16:47 |
| wrst | but as they say if you use it for a week | 16:47 |
| chris4585 | the only thing I wish gnome3 had is the global menu and the controls on the panel.. that would make it complete | 16:47 |
| chris4585 | wrst, exactly, at first I hated unity but after using it on my laptop for a week I liked it | 16:48 |
| wrst | chris4585: i'm not so big of a fan of the global menu especially since i use dual monitors some | 16:48 |
| chris4585 | ah I'd say not then, but I love it | 16:48 |
| wrst | but i think they could tone down the theme a little to save some space that would be nice | 16:48 |
| chris4585 | wrst, did you edit gnome3 so it has minimize too? | 16:48 |
| wrst | but over all gnome3 > unity | 16:49 |
| wrst | chris4585: yes | 16:49 |
| pace_t_zulu | Xpistos: why do you need the script to shutdown the email server? | 16:49 |
| wrst | chris4585: do you have the gnome-tweak-tool installed? | 16:49 |
| cyberanger | pace_t_zulu: part of the backup process | 16:49 |
| chris4585 | wrst, no, I don't know fedora well enough.. | 16:49 |
| wrst | just use the pacakge gui and search for it, has some useful settings | 16:49 |
| cyberanger | Xpistos: I understand it can't be run now, but when it runs tonight, you'll have more data, more proof it did run | 16:50 |
| cyberanger | when you check it in the morning | 16:50 |
| pace_t_zulu | cyberanger: you reckon it's a necessary part? shouldn't the server have some functionality that allows you to export a backup if its running (if it is ill advised to run an ordinary backup with the server running) | 16:50 |
| chris4585 | wrst, I'm surprised its in there, installing | 16:50 |
| pace_t_zulu | Xpistos: you can use a dummy cronjob that doesn't shut down the server to test and be sure that you've got your crontab right | 16:51 |
| wrst | chris4585: i think from the cli it would be # yum install gnome-tweak-tool | 16:51 |
| wrst | if i remember yum at all | 16:51 |
| wrst | chris4585: i think that should be standard with gnoem actually, its not 100% ad you have to log out and back in for many changes to take place | 16:51 |
| pace_t_zulu | wrst: that is correct yum syntax | 16:51 |
| cyberanger | pace_t_zulu: to an extent, some daemons are that big a kludge, so it depends on what's actually rused | 16:52 |
| wrst | thanks pace_t_zulu its been a while after opensuse and fedora can't say i'm fond of the 'rpm' based distros | 16:52 |
| pace_t_zulu | the gnome tweak tool i believe is not standard in gnome 3 ... it's just a stopgap till they flesh out the control panels | 16:52 |
| cyberanger | and I did forget about a dummy run, but it won't test the actual script | 16:52 |
| cyberanger | too | 16:52 |
| wrst | pace_t_zulu: i think you are correct | 16:52 |
| pace_t_zulu | i doubt the gnome tweak tool is an official part of gnome | 16:53 |
| pace_t_zulu | i'm going to have to go afk for a little bit at 11 | 16:54 |
| chris4585 | wrst, I agree completely that or gnome improve their settings | 16:54 |
| cyberanger | pace_t_zulu: you saw my latest PM? | 16:54 |
| Xpistos | pace_t_zulu: hit me with one big pappa! | 16:55 |
| wrst | but chris4585 hurts me to leave ubuntu but i think if i set anything up for people it will probably be kubuntu now | 16:56 |
| pace_t_zulu | cyberanger: you're a definite maybe ... ? for the natty party | 16:56 |
| chris4585 | in all seriousness, I don't really try to set people up with ubuntu anymore, it just gives me a headache and I'm tech support until someone dies | 16:57 |
| wrst | ha ha what do you do chris4585? just fix windows? | 16:58 |
| cyberanger | pace_t_zulu: the desire is there, two things got added to that same weekend since we planned it, one was a clerical error | 16:58 |
| cyberanger | so yes, not confirmed, but extremely high odds | 16:59 |
| cyberanger | 90% | 16:59 |
| chris4585 | wrst, pretty much | 16:59 |
| cyberanger | one thing might much it up, and as it currently stands, puts me roughly 20-30 minutes late | 17:00 |
| wrst | depends on the situation with me chris4585 | 17:00 |
| chris4585 | bbiab | 17:00 |
| wrst | if they are straight up browse the web, chat/IM, email i put ubuntu on their machine | 17:00 |
| cyberanger | it's a meeting, never leave on time, either early or late, and I'm factoring the usual when I say that | 17:01 |
| cyberanger | pace_t_zulu: does that make sense? | 17:01 |
| Xpistos | How can I setup a dummy cronjob | 17:02 |
| cyberanger | wrst: I've wound up in a middle ground, lubuntu or crunchbang | 17:02 |
| cyberanger | Xpistos: we can create another crontab set to go off at 11:30 | 17:04 |
| cyberanger | that'd be the best way | 17:04 |
| Xpistos | okay well what do I put like touch testfile or something like that | 17:04 |
| wrst | lubuntu is a possibility, but i think kubuntu is the easiest transition from someone who has been a windows user | 17:05 |
| Xpistos | 15 11 * * * touch /tmp/testfile | 17:09 |
| Xpistos | look okay? | 17:10 |
| cyberanger | it's gotta be 20 11 now | 17:11 |
| cyberanger | a certain amount of time to kick in | 17:11 |
| Xpistos | time on server is 11:10 | 17:11 |
| cyberanger | OH, and one blank line at the end | 17:11 |
| cyberanger | yes, plus at least 5 minutes | 17:11 |
| Xpistos | okay 6 mins from now | 17:12 |
| cyberanger | (the commands run on time, but we're adding too close to the time, a update delay of 5 minutes I think) | 17:12 |
| cyberanger | one blank line at the end | 17:12 |
| cyberanger | hit enter twice | 17:13 |
| Xpistos | do I have to have blank lines after each cron command in there or just after the end | 17:13 |
| cyberanger | for sure, just after | 17:13 |
| cyberanger | mine is just at the end | 17:13 |
| Xpistos | you should post a copy of your crontab so I can see | 17:13 |
| cyberanger | 2 */12 * * * /usr/local/bin/mirrorbuild.sh | 17:20 |
| cyberanger | that runs 2 minutes after the hour, every 12 houls | 17:21 |
| cyberanger | I've got others on other servers, happen to have that one close by | 17:21 |
| Xpistos | mtest file worked | 17:28 |
| Xpistos | 18 11 * * * touch /tmp/testfile | 17:28 |
| Xpistos | worked | 17:28 |
| cyberanger | ok, so as long as your script itself works, that line looked good | 17:31 |
| Xpistos | good | 17:38 |
| Xpistos | now I can do this on my own machine at home too | 17:39 |
| Xpistos | yeah | 17:39 |
| Xpistos | anybody know how to make an animate graphic | 17:42 |
| Xpistos | So am i going to be better off with 10.10 than 11.04 or what?> | 17:47 |
| pace_t_zulu | xpistos rolls through here like a tornado ... and then he's gone | 18:17 |
| wrst | pace_t_zulu: i think Xpistos needs a personal tech support :) | 18:20 |
| pace_t_zulu | wrst: he's doing many (seemingly) unrelated things | 18:20 |
| wrst | yes, adult ADD/ADHD ? | 18:21 |
| wrst | pace_t_zulu: that really seems to be something common I help with some tech support with a project and once you get people to focus on the issue at hand they then see how simple it is | 18:22 |
| wrst | not that all that cron stuff is simple but what i help with usually is simple | 18:22 |
| pace_t_zulu | wrst: cron doesn't need to be hard.... it's a very simple tool.... he never communicated his problem to me | 18:23 |
| wrst | pace_t_zulu: i have found there are usually simple tutorials out there for most things in cron | 18:23 |
| pace_t_zulu | wrst: do you know what his issue was? | 18:52 |
| pace_t_zulu | wrst: was he just trying to verify the job ran? | 18:52 |
| wrst | i don't know cyberanger was helping him out, he's a little rapid fire for me to help while i'm at work | 18:53 |
| pace_t_zulu | wrst: i hear that | 18:58 |
| pace_t_zulu | cyberanger: what was the nature of xpistos' cron problem? | 18:58 |
| pace_t_zulu | i guess no one else is around | 20:33 |
| pace_t_zulu | my voice just echoes off these walls.... | 20:36 |
| wrst | ha ha i'm here :) | 20:38 |
| pace_t_zulu | yay | 20:43 |
| pace_t_zulu | i'm not alone | 20:43 |
| pace_t_zulu | wrst: fair to assume you will not be available to attend a natty release party? | 20:55 |
| wrst | yes sir if i tried that it would be fair to assume i would need a divorce attorney :) | 20:57 |
| pace_t_zulu | wrst: not a problem at all | 20:58 |
| pace_t_zulu | family always comes first | 20:58 |
| wrst | i am finding that out more than ever | 21:09 |
| pace_t_zulu | i imagine it becomes considerably more serious when the little ones arrive | 21:16 |
| wrst | ha ha more for the mother's sanity :) | 21:17 |
| chris4585 | when you move large files around on a hard drive, it shouldn't take long because the physical file itself doesn't move right? just the header changes | 21:37 |
| pace_t_zulu | chris4585: if you do an 'mv' it should be pretty much instant | 21:40 |
| pace_t_zulu | a 'cp' of course copies the file | 21:41 |
| pace_t_zulu | chris4585: what's the problem/ | 21:41 |
| pace_t_zulu | ? | 21:41 |
| chris4585 | there is no problem just trying to understand | 21:41 |
| chris4585 | its not every day I move 20gbs on my hard drive, so it was instant | 21:42 |
| chris4585 | I wish there was a history window for nautilus that showed every file operation, that would be pretty useful | 21:48 |
| wrst | chris4585: you still in gnome 3? | 21:48 |
| chris4585 | no my desktop will stay unity for a while | 21:49 |
| chris4585 | my laptop is gnome3 though | 21:50 |
| wrst | i have it on my laptop and love it, on my desktop i love it two but didn't like how it handled dual desktops but got that resovled | 21:50 |
| chris4585 | ah | 21:50 |
| wrst | yes only had workspaces on one monitor and that is the intended default | 21:51 |
| pace_t_zulu | chris4585: isn't journaling supposed to provide some of that functionality | 21:56 |
| pace_t_zulu | ? | 21:56 |
| pace_t_zulu | i'm not an expert of file systems | 21:56 |
| pace_t_zulu | wrst: does that fat titlebar not annoy you at least on the laptop? | 21:56 |
| wrst | no not really but it is a little wide i will readily admit that | 22:14 |
| wrst | and wide for no reason pace_t_zulu | 22:14 |
| wrst | i suspect that will be tweaked in the future | 22:14 |
| pace_t_zulu | wrst: no doubt it will be tweaked... and no doubt native theming support will be added in the future as well | 22:21 |
| wrst | yes that is a little bit annoying that it can't really be themed right now | 22:21 |
| wrst | but i think they have done what they have done well so i'm sure the rest will come | 22:21 |
| pace_t_zulu | wrst: yea, but theming should never have been release critical... | 22:22 |
| pace_t_zulu | wrst: that is a feature that can easily be added in the future ... there are bigger priorities for the initial rollout | 22:22 |
| wrst | yes | 22:22 |
| wrst | and the default look is very very nice | 22:22 |
| pace_t_zulu | wrst: its a good first release | 22:30 |
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