| sakhi_ | mooning | 07:29 |
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| * nlsthzn-work waves | 07:45 | |
| superfly | hi all | 07:49 |
| nlsthzn-work | superfly: hey | 07:51 |
| DraZoro | Good morning everyone ! | 08:42 |
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| === DraZoro_Away is now known as DraZoro | ||
| inetpro | how do I know whether a ubuntu server needs a restart after an update? | 11:29 |
| nlsthzn-work | inetpro: install a gui and you will see the shutdown button will be red :p | 11:39 |
| inetpro | nlsthzn-work: haha | 11:39 |
| Vhata | $ tail -n1 /etc/motd | 11:50 |
| Vhata | *** System restart required *** | 11:50 |
| inetpro | Vhata: did they have this even in 8.04 Hardy? | 11:51 |
| Vhata | probably not | 11:51 |
| Vhata | but your question isn't really a real question | 11:52 |
| Vhata | servers don't need restarts. | 11:52 |
| Vhata | you reboot a linux machine for (a) a new kernel, and (b) new hardware | 11:52 |
| inetpro | Vhata: hmm... | 11:53 |
| Vhata | so if your update installed a new kernel, and you want to start running it, then you should reboot (and you can work this out with `dpkg -l | grep linux-image` and `uname -a`) | 11:53 |
| drubin | inetpro: | 11:55 |
| inetpro | Vhata: thanks | 11:56 |
| inetpro | drubin: . | 11:56 |
| drubin | http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1012637.html and look for /var/run/reboot-required | 11:56 |
| drubin | inetpro: ^ sorry stupid copy and paste | 11:56 |
| inetpro | drubin: I just read that, thanks | 11:56 |
| Vhata | drubin: Ubuntu are taking all the fun out of server admin! | 12:00 |
| drubin | Vhata: No they are giving you time for ibid | 12:03 |
| drubin | ;-p | 12:03 |
| tumbleweed | of course /var/run might go away in a year or two. /run seems to be picking up momentum fast | 12:09 |
| cocooncrash | srsly? | 12:10 |
| tumbleweed | well, it'll probably be there by the next LTS | 12:11 |
| tumbleweed | /var/run makes things complicated because it isn't ready yet in initramfs / before /var is mounted | 12:11 |
| tumbleweed | actually what am I saying it'll still be there, but some more important bits will have switched to using /run instead | 12:14 |
| cocooncrash | tumbleweed: Hrm, fair enough | 12:28 |
| Kilos | hiya superfly and all ya other peeps | 12:58 |
| Kilos | Maaz, coffee on | 12:58 |
| * Maaz flips the salt-timer | 12:58 | |
| Kilos | nlsthzn-work, ping | 12:58 |
| superfly | heya Kilos | 13:01 |
| nlsthzn-work | Kilos: pong | 13:01 |
| Maaz | Coffee's ready for Kilos! | 13:02 |
| Kilos | hi nlsthzn-work i got my boets saudi stc modem here and wondered if you or anyone else knows how i can change the firmware to use here in sa | 13:02 |
| Kilos | Maaz, ty | 13:02 |
| Maaz | You're Welcome I'm sure | 13:02 |
| nlsthzn-work | Kilos: hmmm... is it locked to the service provider? | 13:03 |
| Kilos | nl i dont even know how to look for that but cant get it to work here | 13:04 |
| Kilos | boet had it at vodacom peeps and they just said no ways and sold him another modem | 13:04 |
| Kilos | when i plug it in it flashes like trying to connect but thats as far as it gets | 13:05 |
| Kilos | maverick sees itr as a usb modem | 13:05 |
| Kilos | it says TCT mobile CE0700 inside and the imei number is here too | 13:07 |
| nlsthzn-work | is it 3G? (I have no clue how you would go about doing anything with it to be honest) | 13:09 |
| Kilos | something to do with flashing the sofware and installing the right stuff. but i need expert advice so i dont mess it up completely | 13:14 |
| Kilos | yip its 3g hsdpa | 13:14 |
| Kilos | must be similar to flashing a cellfone | 13:14 |
| Kilos | but you need the right firmware available beforehand and need to know how to do it | 13:15 |
| Kilos | im scared to just try on my own and maybe duff it for good | 13:16 |
| superfly | Kilos: did you plug it in and then type in "lsusb"? | 13:17 |
| Kilos | no superfly i dunno about that. can i do it with my cellphone still connected | 13:17 |
| Kilos | is that list usb devices | 13:18 |
| Kilos | in my network manager it shows as a modem but cant connect | 13:19 |
| nlsthzn-work | Kilos: thing is you need a sim card in there with recharge on... and it has been set to use a different provider so you are right... you need to "jail" break it... I am sure there must be one of those dodgy small cell phone shops that can do it for R50.00... and seeing as your not in SaudI I guess no laws will be broken :p | 13:21 |
| Kilos | boet has tried local cellphone shops | 13:22 |
| Kilos | i am sure it can be done . i did a cellc fone when i first started but cant go googling now with data so low | 13:23 |
| Kilos | if i member right it was an aus company that i googled by saying unlock or unblock motorolla fone | 13:24 |
| Kilos | but with a fone you can type in the unblock code | 13:25 |
| Kilos | modem got no keyboard | 13:25 |
| Kilos | hehe | 13:25 |
| Kilos | i have tried it with this sim outa my fone but it wont connect even after setting up network manager for voda | 13:26 |
| nlsthzn-work | Kilos: I am pretty sure it will have the same steps as flashing your PC's bios... and the same dangers :) | 13:26 |
| Kilos | lol yeah thats why i dont wanna try it without advice | 13:27 |
| Kilos | modems arent cheap | 13:28 |
| Cybrisbob | Afternoon ubuntu lovers | 13:29 |
| Kilos | lo Cybrisbob | 13:29 |
| superfly | Kilos: put it in, type "lsusb" and look for a device that looks like a modem if you look at the output, then take the device id (something like "0ac0:f30c") and google it | 13:29 |
| Cybrisbob | So where is the ubuntu natty launch party in Stellenbosch, never heard of the venue | 13:29 |
| Kilos | ok ty superfly will try that. see ya later then | 13:29 |
| Cybrisbob | afk | 13:30 |
| Cybrisbob | welcome Robert | 13:33 |
| Cybrisbob | Ok happy easter to all enjoy the long weekend, I am off to break glusterfs | 13:34 |
| Cybrisbob | cheers | 13:34 |
| Kilos | would this be it superfly ? | 13:37 |
| Kilos | Bus 001 Device 017: ID 1bbb:0000 T & A Mobile Phones | 13:37 |
| nlsthzn-work | Kilos: looks right | 13:37 |
| Kilos | ok now i just google the id or must i add something else as well | 13:38 |
| Kilos | i sukkel with googling | 13:38 |
| Kilos | never know what to actually google | 13:39 |
| nlsthzn-work | I'm not sure... I wouldn't have thought of that way to find info... I would have searched for "unlock tct ce0700" or something similar | 13:40 |
| Kilos | ok i will try | 13:40 |
| superfly | Maaz: google for usb modem 1bbb:0000 | 13:44 |
| Maaz | superfly: "USB_ModeSwitch ~ View topic - correlation between /dev/ttyUSB* and ..." http://www.draisberghof.de/usb_modeswitch/bb/viewtopic.php?t=310&sid=9847374dd024e427c3f6e01b8d928b3e :: "10.04 - How do I get a 3G USB modem to work? - Ask Ubuntu - Stack ..." http://askubuntu.com/questions/3084/how-do-i-get-a-3g-usb-modem-to-work :: "Ubuntu 10.04 LTS & Alcatel x200" http://forum.sakis3g.org/smf/index.php?topic=39.0 :: "Sakis3G configuration | 13:44 |
| nlsthzn-work | looks like a very genericaly used device with more specialized instructions flashed to it... | 13:46 |
| superfly | do you really need to flash it? | 13:46 |
| superfly | why all the talk about flashing it? | 13:46 |
| nlsthzn-work | superfly: it has been locked to work on a specific network... and it needs *something* to "unlock: it... maybe the terminology is wrong... | 13:47 |
| nlsthzn-work | but the idea remains the same :p | 13:47 |
| superfly | nlsthzn-work: has it actually been locked, or is that just speculation? | 13:48 |
| Kilos | dunno superfly . boet tried getting it to work here but cell shops say cant be done | 13:50 |
| Kilos | maybe i am missing somethin | 13:50 |
| Kilos | it shows in lsusb and network manager but wont connect. just keeps flashing | 13:51 |
| superfly | Kilos: run "tail -f /var/log/syslog" and watch for error messages when you try to connect | 13:51 |
| Kilos | ok will try that | 13:52 |
| Kilos | be back as soon as its done | 13:52 |
| nlsthzn-work | superfly: most vendors lock their devices where there is more than one supplier in the same country... either that or there is some compatibility issues with the sims maybe... but yes, I am speculating here... | 13:53 |
| superfly | nlsthzn-work: yeah... I'm just saying, do your investigation, don't rely on hearsay | 13:54 |
| superfly | and don't rely on a cellphone shop, cause they just want to make money off you ;-) | 13:54 |
| Kilos | yeah they already sold him another one | 13:55 |
| nlsthzn-work | superfly: sure... but if you see a something looking like a horse with black and white stripes chances are its a zebra ;) | 13:55 |
| superfly | nlsthzn-work: unless it's been painted ;-) | 13:55 |
| nlsthzn-work | only in south africa :p | 13:55 |
| Kilos | http://paste.ubuntu.com/596936/ | 14:08 |
| Kilos | does that make sense to you superfly | 14:08 |
| superfly | <warn> GSM modem enable failed: (32) Network personalization PIN required | 14:08 |
| Kilos | yeah but where you get that from superfly . boet says he didnt put a pin in | 14:09 |
| superfly | Kilos: it's asking for a "Network personalization PIN" - whatever that is | 14:10 |
| Kilos | is that the saudi network pin or a voda one | 14:10 |
| Kilos | i got no pin on my sim | 14:11 |
| superfly | Kilos: not sure, probably the Saudi | 14:11 |
| Kilos | right so that is what i need to unlock then but dunno how to get into a modem | 14:11 |
| Kilos | i have found this. but dunno what to use | 14:13 |
| Kilos | http://www.giveawayoftheday.com/how+to+unlock+stc+usb+modem/ | 14:13 |
| Kilos | also another one with password stuff but dunno how to get into the modem even | 14:14 |
| superfly | Kilos: pffft that's just a search engine honeypot page | 14:14 |
| Kilos | http://www.sauditechview.com/en/stc-afaq-dsl-shamil-modem-passwords.html | 14:14 |
| superfly | it's mean to catch people who type the wrong thing in | 14:14 |
| Kilos | honeypot page?? | 14:14 |
| Kilos | hehe | 14:14 |
| superfly | Kilos: yes, can you see how it's just a bunch of adverts? | 14:15 |
| superfly | and nothing that actually relates to what you were searching for? | 14:15 |
| Kilos | and the second one? | 14:15 |
| superfly | it killed my browser | 14:15 |
| Kilos | aw | 14:16 |
| Kilos | no adds on there but info i dunno how to use | 14:16 |
| Kilos | which one killed your browser superfly | 14:17 |
| superfly | Kilos: no, that page is about routers, not usb modems | 14:17 |
| Kilos | i use epiphany | 14:17 |
| Kilos | eish | 14:17 |
| superfly | Kilos: if you can see what device it is (like /dev/ttyUSB0) then you can try running wvdialconf | 14:19 |
| Kilos | without sudo? | 14:20 |
| superfly | actually, you don't even need to know the modem | 14:20 |
| superfly | Kilos: quite possibly | 14:20 |
| Kilos | is there something i need to know before i go offline and connect the modem again | 14:21 |
| superfly | Kilos: not that I can think of | 14:21 |
| Kilos | ok ty i go see whats there | 14:22 |
| Kilos | bbl | 14:22 |
| Kilos | does this help superfly | 14:36 |
| Kilos | http://paste.ubuntu.com/596957/ | 14:36 |
| Kilos | it found a modem there seems like | 14:37 |
| Kilos | sorry to be a nuisance | 14:39 |
| inetpro | Kilos: /etc/wvdial.conf<Warn>: Can't write '/etc/wvdial.conf.tmp6348': Permission denied | 14:48 |
| inetpro | line 43 | 14:48 |
| Kilos | hiya inetpro so must i chown the thing hehe | 14:48 |
| inetpro | Kilos: no | 14:49 |
| Kilos | how do i get it to work then ? | 14:49 |
| inetpro | Kilos: I didn't follow the conversation was that output from wvdialconf? | 14:50 |
| Kilos | yip | 14:50 |
| inetpro | are you a member of the dialout group? | 14:50 |
| Kilos | trying to get a stc modem to work in sa on vodacom | 14:50 |
| Kilos | who are they | 14:50 |
| inetpro | Kilos: groups | 14:50 |
| Kilos | the modem comes from saudi | 14:50 |
| Kilos | who are the dialout groups? | 14:51 |
| Kilos | i will become a member if it makes the modem work | 14:52 |
| inetpro | Kilos: try with sudo | 14:52 |
| Kilos | i am lost here this is like a doctor doing a gearbox overall on an automaitic valiant | 14:52 |
| Kilos | oh | 14:53 |
| inetpro | Kilos: google is your friend | 14:53 |
| Kilos | will try that and see what happens | 14:53 |
| inetpro | :-) | 14:53 |
| Kilos | google kills my data which is very low inetpro | 14:53 |
| Kilos | i have tried | 14:53 |
| inetpro | eish | 14:53 |
| inetpro | Kilos: why you wanting to change your modem? | 14:54 |
| Kilos | i googled spanne already for this but get nothing i understand | 14:54 |
| Kilos | i use a cell but can use the modem if i get it working here then the cell can do smses etc | 14:55 |
| inetpro | ahh | 14:56 |
| inetpro | Kilos: what is the make and model of the modem? | 14:56 |
| Kilos | it is a stc on the outside but tct in the inside | 14:56 |
| inetpro | hmm... maybe I should read above | 14:57 |
| Kilos | lol | 14:58 |
| inetpro | Kilos: sadly I can not help right now | 14:58 |
| Kilos | i dont mind telling you again | 14:58 |
| Kilos | np | 14:58 |
| Kilos | i will try with sudo | 14:58 |
| Kilos | be back later | 14:58 |
| nuvolari_ | o/ | 15:00 |
| eklikeubuntu | Halo? | 15:17 |
| eklikeubuntu | Is this a South African chat? | 15:17 |
| eklikeubuntu | exit | 15:18 |
| Kilos | http://paste.ubuntu.com/596974/ | 15:19 |
| Kilos | looks like it be a bit happier with sudo but still wont connect | 15:19 |
| Kilos | grrr | 15:19 |
| nuvolari_ | :/ | 15:42 |
| Kilos | lo nuvolari_ | 15:42 |
| nuvolari_ | lo oom Kilos | 15:42 |
| Kilos | hoekom altyd die stert | 15:42 |
| nuvolari_ | I wonder what happened :? | 15:42 |
| === nuvolari_ is now known as nuvolari | ||
| nuvolari | like so oom? | 15:43 |
| Kilos | thats better | 15:43 |
| nuvolari | :P | 15:43 |
| Kilos | what you know about getting a tct usb modem to work | 15:43 |
| nuvolari | tct? | 15:43 |
| Kilos | comes from saudi and i cant get it to work with vodacom | 15:44 |
| Kilos | yeah modem make tct and service provider is stc | 15:44 |
| nuvolari | hmm, if it's foreight I'm afraid I can't understand it :P | 15:44 |
| Kilos | lol | 15:44 |
| afrodeity | no nukes | 15:51 |
| Kilos | lo afrodeity | 15:52 |
| afrodeity | hi kilos | 15:56 |
| afrodeity | u don't perhaps know which file to delete to reset amarok 2.4 db? | 15:57 |
| tumbleweed | froztbyte, Symmetria: debian.mirror.ac.za is still out of sync | 15:59 |
| afrodeity | simulated reboot | 16:00 |
| afrodeity | good friday 2moro, time to build a new kernel | 16:01 |
| afrodeity | reddit went down | 16:20 |
| Kilos | superfly, if this modem keeps looking for the stc network pin will installing new firmware clear what it is looking for | 17:30 |
| Kilos | or how would i get to see and change it/ delete so it doesnt look for a pin | 17:31 |
| Kilos | should i try follow these instructions | 17:39 |
| Kilos | http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1576997 | 17:39 |
| Kilos | lo rverrips | 17:40 |
| rverrips | Yo-yo, Kilo' | 17:40 |
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