[07:29] mooning === nlsthzn is now known as nlsthzn-work === sakhi_ is now known as sakhi [07:45] * nlsthzn-work waves [07:49] hi all [07:51] superfly: hey [08:42] Good morning everyone ! === DraZoro is now known as DraZoro_Away === DraZoro_Away is now known as DraZoro [11:29] how do I know whether a ubuntu server needs a restart after an update? [11:39] inetpro: install a gui and you will see the shutdown button will be red :p [11:39] nlsthzn-work: haha [11:50] $ tail -n1 /etc/motd [11:50] *** System restart required *** [11:51] Vhata: did they have this even in 8.04 Hardy? [11:51] probably not [11:52] but your question isn't really a real question [11:52] servers don't need restarts. [11:52] you reboot a linux machine for (a) a new kernel, and (b) new hardware [11:53] Vhata: hmm... [11:53] so if your update installed a new kernel, and you want to start running it, then you should reboot (and you can work this out with `dpkg -l | grep linux-image` and `uname -a`) [11:55] inetpro: [11:56] Vhata: thanks [11:56] drubin: . [11:56] http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1012637.html and look for /var/run/reboot-required [11:56] inetpro: ^ sorry stupid copy and paste [11:56] drubin: I just read that, thanks [12:00] drubin: Ubuntu are taking all the fun out of server admin! [12:03] Vhata: No they are giving you time for ibid [12:03] ;-p [12:09] of course /var/run might go away in a year or two. /run seems to be picking up momentum fast [12:10] srsly? [12:11] well, it'll probably be there by the next LTS [12:11] /var/run makes things complicated because it isn't ready yet in initramfs / before /var is mounted [12:14] actually what am I saying it'll still be there, but some more important bits will have switched to using /run instead [12:28] tumbleweed: Hrm, fair enough [12:58] hiya superfly and all ya other peeps [12:58] Maaz, coffee on [12:58] * Maaz flips the salt-timer [12:58] nlsthzn-work, ping [13:01] heya Kilos [13:01] Kilos: pong [13:02] Coffee's ready for Kilos! [13:02] hi nlsthzn-work i got my boets saudi stc modem here and wondered if you or anyone else knows how i can change the firmware to use here in sa [13:02] Maaz, ty [13:02] You're Welcome I'm sure [13:03] Kilos: hmmm... is it locked to the service provider? [13:04] nl i dont even know how to look for that but cant get it to work here [13:04] boet had it at vodacom peeps and they just said no ways and sold him another modem [13:05] when i plug it in it flashes like trying to connect but thats as far as it gets [13:05] maverick sees itr as a usb modem [13:07] it says TCT mobile CE0700 inside and the imei number is here too [13:09] is it 3G? (I have no clue how you would go about doing anything with it to be honest) [13:14] something to do with flashing the sofware and installing the right stuff. but i need expert advice so i dont mess it up completely [13:14] yip its 3g hsdpa [13:14] must be similar to flashing a cellfone [13:15] but you need the right firmware available beforehand and need to know how to do it [13:16] im scared to just try on my own and maybe duff it for good [13:17] Kilos: did you plug it in and then type in "lsusb"? [13:17] no superfly i dunno about that. can i do it with my cellphone still connected [13:18] is that list usb devices [13:19] in my network manager it shows as a modem but cant connect [13:21] Kilos: thing is you need a sim card in there with recharge on... and it has been set to use a different provider so you are right... you need to "jail" break it... I am sure there must be one of those dodgy small cell phone shops that can do it for R50.00... and seeing as your not in SaudI I guess no laws will be broken :p [13:22] boet has tried local cellphone shops [13:23] i am sure it can be done . i did a cellc fone when i first started but cant go googling now with data so low [13:24] if i member right it was an aus company that i googled by saying unlock or unblock motorolla fone [13:25] but with a fone you can type in the unblock code [13:25] modem got no keyboard [13:25] hehe [13:26] i have tried it with this sim outa my fone but it wont connect even after setting up network manager for voda [13:26] Kilos: I am pretty sure it will have the same steps as flashing your PC's bios... and the same dangers :) [13:27] lol yeah thats why i dont wanna try it without advice [13:28] modems arent cheap [13:29] Afternoon ubuntu lovers [13:29] lo Cybrisbob [13:29] Kilos: put it in, type "lsusb" and look for a device that looks like a modem if you look at the output, then take the device id (something like "0ac0:f30c") and google it [13:29] So where is the ubuntu natty launch party in Stellenbosch, never heard of the venue [13:29] ok ty superfly will try that. see ya later then [13:30] afk [13:33] welcome Robert [13:34] Ok happy easter to all enjoy the long weekend, I am off to break glusterfs [13:34] cheers [13:37] would this be it superfly ? [13:37] Bus 001 Device 017: ID 1bbb:0000 T & A Mobile Phones [13:37] Kilos: looks right [13:38] ok now i just google the id or must i add something else as well [13:38] i sukkel with googling [13:39] never know what to actually google [13:40] I'm not sure... I wouldn't have thought of that way to find info... I would have searched for "unlock tct ce0700" or something similar [13:40] ok i will try [13:44] Maaz: google for usb modem 1bbb:0000 [13:44] superfly: "USB_ModeSwitch ~ View topic - correlation between /dev/ttyUSB* and ..." http://www.draisberghof.de/usb_modeswitch/bb/viewtopic.php?t=310&sid=9847374dd024e427c3f6e01b8d928b3e :: "10.04 - How do I get a 3G USB modem to work? - Ask Ubuntu - Stack ..." http://askubuntu.com/questions/3084/how-do-i-get-a-3g-usb-modem-to-work :: "Ubuntu 10.04 LTS & Alcatel x200" http://forum.sakis3g.org/smf/index.php?topic=39.0 :: "Sakis3G configuration [13:46] looks like a very genericaly used device with more specialized instructions flashed to it... [13:46] do you really need to flash it? [13:46] why all the talk about flashing it? [13:47] superfly: it has been locked to work on a specific network... and it needs *something* to "unlock: it... maybe the terminology is wrong... [13:47] but the idea remains the same :p [13:48] nlsthzn-work: has it actually been locked, or is that just speculation? [13:50] dunno superfly . boet tried getting it to work here but cell shops say cant be done [13:50] maybe i am missing somethin [13:51] it shows in lsusb and network manager but wont connect. just keeps flashing [13:51] Kilos: run "tail -f /var/log/syslog" and watch for error messages when you try to connect [13:52] ok will try that [13:52] be back as soon as its done [13:53] superfly: most vendors lock their devices where there is more than one supplier in the same country... either that or there is some compatibility issues with the sims maybe... but yes, I am speculating here... [13:54] nlsthzn-work: yeah... I'm just saying, do your investigation, don't rely on hearsay [13:54] and don't rely on a cellphone shop, cause they just want to make money off you ;-) [13:55] yeah they already sold him another one [13:55] superfly: sure... but if you see a something looking like a horse with black and white stripes chances are its a zebra ;) [13:55] nlsthzn-work: unless it's been painted ;-) [13:55] only in south africa :p [14:08] http://paste.ubuntu.com/596936/ [14:08] does that make sense to you superfly [14:08] GSM modem enable failed: (32) Network personalization PIN required [14:09] yeah but where you get that from superfly . boet says he didnt put a pin in [14:10] Kilos: it's asking for a "Network personalization PIN" - whatever that is [14:10] is that the saudi network pin or a voda one [14:11] i got no pin on my sim [14:11] Kilos: not sure, probably the Saudi [14:11] right so that is what i need to unlock then but dunno how to get into a modem [14:13] i have found this. but dunno what to use [14:13] http://www.giveawayoftheday.com/how+to+unlock+stc+usb+modem/ [14:14] also another one with password stuff but dunno how to get into the modem even [14:14] Kilos: pffft that's just a search engine honeypot page [14:14] http://www.sauditechview.com/en/stc-afaq-dsl-shamil-modem-passwords.html [14:14] it's mean to catch people who type the wrong thing in [14:14] honeypot page?? [14:14] hehe [14:15] Kilos: yes, can you see how it's just a bunch of adverts? [14:15] and nothing that actually relates to what you were searching for? [14:15] and the second one? [14:15] it killed my browser [14:16] aw [14:16] no adds on there but info i dunno how to use [14:17] which one killed your browser superfly [14:17] Kilos: no, that page is about routers, not usb modems [14:17] i use epiphany [14:17] eish [14:19] Kilos: if you can see what device it is (like /dev/ttyUSB0) then you can try running wvdialconf [14:20] without sudo? [14:20] actually, you don't even need to know the modem [14:20] Kilos: quite possibly [14:21] is there something i need to know before i go offline and connect the modem again [14:21] Kilos: not that I can think of [14:22] ok ty i go see whats there [14:22] bbl [14:36] does this help superfly [14:36] http://paste.ubuntu.com/596957/ [14:37] it found a modem there seems like [14:39] sorry to be a nuisance [14:48] Kilos: /etc/wvdial.conf: Can't write '/etc/wvdial.conf.tmp6348': Permission denied [14:48] line 43 [14:48] hiya inetpro so must i chown the thing hehe [14:49] Kilos: no [14:49] how do i get it to work then ? [14:50] Kilos: I didn't follow the conversation was that output from wvdialconf? [14:50] yip [14:50] are you a member of the dialout group? [14:50] trying to get a stc modem to work in sa on vodacom [14:50] who are they [14:50] Kilos: groups [14:50] the modem comes from saudi [14:51] who are the dialout groups? [14:52] i will become a member if it makes the modem work [14:52] Kilos: try with sudo [14:52] i am lost here this is like a doctor doing a gearbox overall on an automaitic valiant [14:53] oh [14:53] Kilos: google is your friend [14:53] will try that and see what happens [14:53] :-) [14:53] google kills my data which is very low inetpro [14:53] i have tried [14:53] eish [14:54] Kilos: why you wanting to change your modem? [14:54] i googled spanne already for this but get nothing i understand [14:55] i use a cell but can use the modem if i get it working here then the cell can do smses etc [14:56] ahh [14:56] Kilos: what is the make and model of the modem? [14:56] it is a stc on the outside but tct in the inside [14:57] hmm... maybe I should read above [14:58] lol [14:58] Kilos: sadly I can not help right now [14:58] i dont mind telling you again [14:58] np [14:58] i will try with sudo [14:58] be back later [15:00] o/ [15:17] Halo? [15:17] Is this a South African chat? [15:18] exit [15:19] http://paste.ubuntu.com/596974/ [15:19] looks like it be a bit happier with sudo but still wont connect [15:19] grrr [15:42] :/ [15:42] lo nuvolari_ [15:42] lo oom Kilos [15:42] hoekom altyd die stert [15:42] I wonder what happened :? === nuvolari_ is now known as nuvolari [15:43] like so oom? [15:43] thats better [15:43] :P [15:43] what you know about getting a tct usb modem to work [15:43] tct? [15:44] comes from saudi and i cant get it to work with vodacom [15:44] yeah modem make tct and service provider is stc [15:44] hmm, if it's foreight I'm afraid I can't understand it :P [15:44] lol [15:51] no nukes [15:52] lo afrodeity [15:56] hi kilos [15:57] u don't perhaps know which file to delete to reset amarok 2.4 db? [15:59] froztbyte, Symmetria: debian.mirror.ac.za is still out of sync [16:00] simulated reboot [16:01] good friday 2moro, time to build a new kernel [16:20] reddit went down [17:30] superfly, if this modem keeps looking for the stc network pin will installing new firmware clear what it is looking for [17:31] or how would i get to see and change it/ delete so it doesnt look for a pin [17:39] should i try follow these instructions [17:39] http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1576997 [17:40] lo rverrips [17:40] Yo-yo, Kilo'