[09:30] <karni> Good morning!
[10:34] <duanedesign> morning all
[10:38] <karni> hi duanedesign \o
[10:55] <fagan> karni: i thought today was off?
[10:55] <karni> fagan: No, why?
[10:55] <karni> fagan: Depends on the coutry really.
[10:55] <fagan> karni: holy day
[10:55] <karni> fagan: Is it? Not here :)
[10:56] <fagan> karni: where are you?
[10:56] <karni> fagan: Or I'm missing something hahaha
[10:56] <karni> fagan: Poland
[10:57] <fagan> karni: well ill just take the ar holiday time then :)
[10:57] <Chipaca> some countries take thu and fri, some fri and mon
[10:57] <fagan> Chipaca: ahhh
[10:57] <Chipaca> the ar consulate in uk takes thu, fri and mon just to be safe
[10:57] <karni> Chipaca: It's Saturday and Monday here (too bad ;d)
[10:58] <karni> fagan: You should stick to one country holidays ;)
[10:58] <fagan> karni: i would have thought poland would be very safe for the holidays
[10:58] <fagan> since the pope was from there
[10:58] <karni> fagan: safe as in.. ? ah
[10:58] <fagan> friday and monday
[10:58] <karni> fagan: Easter officially starts here on Sunday (+Monday)
[10:59] <fagan> karni: well good friday is a bit of a big holy day
[10:59] <karni> fagan: I don't think we have anything like Good Friday here, though
[11:00]  * fagan thought all christian religions did it the same for easter
[11:09] <rye> you won't trick me this time, it is not friday today :-P
[11:11] <fagan> rye: hehe
[11:14] <karni> fagan: plus, I don't have really time to take holiday. Recent change to the Android app has sent me over a month back (ProtocolBuffers -> REST) and I'm very saddened by the fact we had to move the deadline.
[11:26] <fagan> karni: the phrase "ill sleep when I die" comes to mind
[11:26] <karni> fagan: Not really, I do get sleep :) Thanks for caring ;)
[11:27] <fagan> karni: hah
[11:27] <karni> fagan: Somebody posted this (I think teknic-o) on internal: http://sheddingbikes.com/posts/1281257293.html
[11:28] <fagan> karni: I remember Chipaca and ralsina had a great management tool that also comes to mind
[11:28] <karni> fagan: What kind of tool :)?
[11:28] <fagan> karni: it was an android app that madea whip sound when you whiped your phone
[11:29] <karni> hahah
[11:29] <fagan> karni: it was used a lot in the sprint
[12:09] <caprenter> Hello, I've had a problem with a download from the music store and it seems to be dead in the water with no response from support staff. Can anyone here help?
[12:13] <fagan> caprenter: its a holday today for most of the team
[12:14]  * fagan doesnt have a clue about the music store so cant help :/
[12:14] <caprenter> fagan, ok thanks
[12:21] <karni> caprenter: I'm sure you'll receive either response to your support request or help here if you hand around - however, as fagan mentioned, quite many of the staff may be on holiday already. Hope your issue gets resolved fast!
[12:26] <caprenter> karni, thanks. I can hang around for a while
[12:29] <rye> caprenter, hi
[12:29] <caprenter> hello
[12:29] <caprenter> I have an outstanding support request on this
[12:30] <caprenter> #940
[12:30] <caprenter> if that means anything
[12:31] <caprenter> my purchased music never made it to the my One store
[12:31] <rye> caprenter, hm, the ticket is in resolved state with the last response from joshuahoover with the info that all the tracks show up as downloaded; could you please tell us what files are missing or what is not working for you now?
[12:32] <caprenter> the file never did make it to the cloud storage
[12:32] <caprenter> it was (do I have to say this in public!) Hazy shade of winter by the bangles
[12:33] <rye> caprenter, no, you don't have to say this in public
[12:33] <caprenter> sorry that was joke! ...my Rhythmbox is showing
[12:33] <caprenter> There was a (temporary) problem getting your list of purchased songs. Please wait a short time and then try again, or return to the music store.
[12:33] <rye> oh
[12:33] <rye> caprenter, what ubuntu version are you running?
[12:34] <caprenter> 10.04
[12:34] <rye> caprenter, the message about temporary error is at "My downloads" ?
[12:35] <caprenter> yes that's right
[12:35] <caprenter> and it's been there a long time!
[12:36] <rye> caprenter, do files appear online at https://one.ubuntu.com/files/u/~/.ubuntuone/Purchased%20from%20Ubuntu%20One ?
[12:37] <caprenter> I'm getting 404 on your link, but when I login and go to Purchased music, no they are not there
[12:37] <caprenter> I have 3 albums there that I have bought in the past
[12:37] <caprenter> but this was just a single song download and it never made it there
[12:38] <rye> caprenter, ok, investigating further
[12:40] <caprenter> rye, sorry the original link did work, but still no sign of the track
[12:40] <caprenter> thanks for investigating btw
[12:40] <rye> caprenter, ok, according to our internal records, all songs are in Complete state, let me dig the download history
[12:40] <caprenter> thanks
[12:42] <rye> caprenter, hm, pretty quick turnaround time - 10 seconds from purchase notification till delivery
[12:42] <caprenter> delivery to where?
[12:43] <rye> caprenter, to the storage layer, i.e. to Ubuntu One online file storage; So the system thinks the files have finished downloading
[12:44] <caprenter> and is that unusally quick, suggesting a problem?
[12:44] <rye> caprenter, let me look up where does the "There was a (temporary) problem getting your list" come from
[12:44] <caprenter> ok - thanks
[12:44] <rye> caprenter, no, this is a regular turnaround time, it would have been bad if it was e.g. more than a minute
[12:45] <caprenter> ah - ok
[12:45] <rye> caprenter, but still it pretends to have downloaded
[12:46] <rye> caprenter, is this the only missing song to the best of your knowledge?
[12:46] <caprenter> yes
[12:47] <caprenter> I've bought 3 other albums in the past and they have been ok.
[12:47] <caprenter> On each occassion tho
[12:47] <caprenter> I do get the hanging download thing
[12:47] <caprenter> where it says 'Your files are transferring'
[12:47] <caprenter> I just work around it and go the online Ubuntu One
[12:48] <caprenter> and grab them from there normally
[12:49] <rye> caprenter, let's continue in private, i need some additional information from you
[12:49] <caprenter> kk
[13:22] <caprenter> Just a quick thank you to rye (and team!) for getting me sorted out. caprenter is now Rocking out to the Bangles!
[13:22] <fagan> caprenter: enjoy
[13:23] <caprenter> fagan, - as only a middle aged man who use the phrase 'rocking out' can!
[13:38] <fagan> caprenter: hah :)
[13:49] <caprenter> thanks again everyone gotta go now. bye
[14:11] <thisfred> eh me?
[14:12] <thisfred> argentine holiday? :)
[14:19] <dobey> i don't know
[14:19] <dobey> nessita is on holiday
[14:19] <dobey> don't know about alecu or ralsina
[14:54] <dobey> ah i guess it is a national holiday today/tomorrow in .ar
[15:37] <thisfred> dobey: yeah I saw something about 'semana santa' before we left on sunday. It's all leading up to Easter I guess
[15:40] <thisfred> I think good friday's a holiday in the netherlands as well for government employees.
[15:42] <dobey> monday is a holiday in a lot of places too
[15:42] <thisfred> yeah that's definitely a public holiday in NL
[15:49] <thisfred> hmm, dobey: so I'm thinking of how to communicate with the launcher, now that it transpires we have to do it from *either* u1cp *or* u1client. I'm thinking the control panel makes the most sense, but we don't want to have to open the panel to do it, which means we really can't. The cp backend is meant to be UI agnostic.
[15:50] <thisfred> But doing it from the client means adding dbus API to talk to the launcher there, and that feels horrible too
[15:50] <dobey> haha, i try not to think about paradoxes :)
[15:51] <thisfred> maybe splitting them was not such a great idea after all! ;)
[15:51] <dobey> do i get to say "i told you so" ?
[15:52] <thisfred> or we can file a bug against unity and hope they can make the launchers work with multiple things talking at them
[15:54] <dobey> it pretty much has to
[15:54] <thisfred> dobey, you get to say it, but not to me. In fact I'm planning on not being in the room when you do :P
[15:55] <dobey> thisfred: the great thing about telecommuting, is that nobody is in the room :)
[15:56] <thisfred> I may even leave the channel until the weather calms down ;)
[15:56] <thisfred> ok
[15:56] <thisfred> well, I'm gonna file a unity bug. They can always mark it won't fix
[16:11] <dobey> lunch time, bbiab
[19:07] <tedg> Is there a way to manually start desktop couch to see what error it's providing?
[19:07] <tedg> Evolution is just saying it's timing out.
[19:07] <dobey> tedg: run /usr/lib/desktopcouch/desktopcouch-service
[19:08] <tedg> dobey, That's already running, should I kill it first?
[19:08] <dobey> tedg: try /usr/lib/desktopcouch/desktopcouch-stop
[19:09] <tedg> dobey, Hmm, an odd one: cat: /home/ted/.cache/desktop-couch/desktop-couchdb.pid: Input/output error
[19:09] <dobey> nice
[19:09] <dobey> that's always fun :)
[19:09] <dobey> tedg: might be time for kill -9
[19:10] <tedg> dobey, Hmm, that might be the issue.  I deleted it, now there are lots of processes :_)
[19:10] <tedg> :-)
[19:12] <dobey> yeah there should be 3 desktopcouch-service processes, iirc
[19:12] <tedg> Woot!  Now it works.
[19:13] <tedg> Seems that it was blocking session login as well.  Now my indicator-weather came up as well.
[19:13] <tedg> Uhg, it's raining.  Now I'm depressed.
[19:13] <tedg> ;-)
[19:13] <dobey> heh
[19:14] <dobey> tedg: well, what did you expect with your own personal cloud?
[19:14]  * tedg looks for a Storm costume on Ebay
[20:01] <dobey> thisfred: dude. is it really just you and i today?
[20:01] <dobey> sad.
[20:05] <karni> dobey: what do you mean only you guys?
[20:05]  * karni waves at dobey 
[20:06] <dobey> karni: on our team. everyone else is on holiday or on load to another team, it seems
[20:06] <karni> ah! right
[20:06] <karni> just read on internal
[20:09] <thisfred> dobey yeah, looks like
[20:09] <dobey> https://code.launchpad.net/~dobey/ubuntuone-storage-protocol/bump-trunk-version/+merge/58731
[20:15] <karni> dobey: I can review that xD
[20:15]  * karni chuckles
[20:15] <dobey> heh
[20:15] <dobey> go right ahead :)
[20:16] <karni> dobey: boooo "Sorry, you don't have permission to access this page." -- thought, I can view it
[20:16] <karni> but this showed up when I clicked Claim review. too bad.
[20:17] <karni> ah, works ;D
[20:17] <dobey> weird
[20:17] <karni> dobey: that was one of the hardest reviews I have done evar!
[20:17] <dobey> heh
[20:38] <fagan> karni: you dont claim a review
[20:39] <fagan> ive never clicked that button
[20:39] <karni> fagan: yeah, I noticed later I didn't have to. Relax, it hasn't been my first time :D
[20:39] <fagan> karni: hehe
[20:39] <karni> fagan: :)
[20:39] <karni> fagan: I don't know why I even tried.
[20:39] <fagan> dobey: I can review it if you really want to
[20:39] <karni> fagan: hahha
[20:40]  * fagan thinks its like stealing candy from a baby 
[20:41] <fagan> karni: go back to android and leave the bad reviews to the intern :P
[20:41] <karni> fagan: I'm on it [Android] ^-^
[20:41] <fagan> good :_
[20:41] <fagan> :)
[20:41] <karni> much more pleasant with the REST in mind!
[20:42] <fagan> karni: was that a pun or did you mean that literally :)
[20:42] <beuno> I could use some rest!
[20:42] <fagan> ah literally
[20:42] <karni> beuno: you actually should! you're like a superman
[20:42] <dobey> fagan: i think we're good on the reviews
[20:42] <fagan> dobey: good
[20:43]  * fagan was just offering 
[20:44] <fagan> well im good with the running of the tests and the trying to understand the bits when twisted and all that stuff come in it just goes right over my head
[20:44]  * fagan needs to use more punctuation 
[20:46] <fagan> ah it was just a version bump now I get why it was so easily merged
[21:54] <dobey> cheers, i'm off