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fslima0has anyone upgraded to 11.04? I am afraid to lose X like I did on the regular ubuntu 11.04 :(03:08
Tefad11.04 question06:07
Tefadwhy am i unable to drag taskbar items around to reposition them? how do i regain this feature?06:07
Tefadeg, i like my xterms to be in a specific sequence. in 10.10 i was able to drag the taskbar entry to where i wanted06:07
bazhang#ubuntu+1 please06:08
Tefadtoodles06:09
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ArisVerHello, it is quiet here.15:22
ArisVerDoes anyone know how to remove Adblock Plus from Mozilla?15:26
taylorc209select the tools menu, then add-ons. this will launch a window which allows you to remove add-ons like adblock plus15:34
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ArisVertaylorc209: I can disable them (extensions) but i cannot uninstall them. Some do not have that option. It's grayed.15:50
taylorc209adblock can also be installed as a regular package with apt. likely that how it was installed. one sec i'll try to dig up the name real quick15:51
taylorc209what version are you running?15:52
ArisVer3.6.16 , on ubuntu 10.10 btw.15:53
taylorc209try "sudo apt-get remove xul-ext-adblock-plus" sorry I don't have a 10.10 box to try it on and i believe the package has changed names between versions (also can't find it available on my natty machine)15:57
ArisVerdo you know where they are located, so i can remove them manually? and i'm on xubuntu on my netbook now :)15:59
ArisVerIt worked.16:01
ArisVertaylorc209: Thanks, i'm removing them all one by one.16:10
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thecrazygmhad a quick question for, well anyone using the natty beta of xubuntu17:54
thecrazygmdoes it use pulseaudio?17:54
thecrazygmmy soundcard/mic don't like pulseaudio17:54
TheSheepit does, and your soundcard/mic doesn't have anything to dislike, as pulseaudio doesn't talk to it directly17:58
thecrazygmwell when i use anything that needs the mic it doesn't pickup17:58
thecrazygmif i tap it the bar moves 1 notch17:58
thecrazygmif i uninstall  pulseaudio and use alsamixer17:59
thecrazygmeverything is fine17:59
TheSheepinstall pavucontrol and set higher volume for the microphone17:59
thecrazygmi tried17:59
thecrazygmeven mic boost17:59
TheSheepI can assure you that there is nothing wrong with pulseaudio18:00
thecrazygmit will not pickup anything  but yelling directly into it or banging it18:00
thecrazygmeven with the mic at 100%18:00
TheSheepare you sure it's the right channel for the microphone?18:00
thecrazygmwell, i read i'm not the only one with the problem18:00
thecrazygmyes, right channel18:00
thecrazygmit may be my netbook18:01
thecrazygmas i'm not the first to complain18:01
TheSheepI had similar problems, but choosing the right devices and channels fixes it18:01
TheSheeppadevchooser might help too18:02
thecrazygmthat one i haven't tried18:02
thecrazygmfyi, i'm not new to linux at all, just the mic is getting to me18:03
thecrazygmi needed it for a business skype call18:03
TheSheepI know, I hated pulseaudio for a time too, when it was new and I had to learn it18:03
thecrazygmand it gave me a headache18:03
TheSheepnow I have the same thing with grub218:03
thecrazygmwell, i'll learn to love it then18:03
thecrazygmha, yeah, i can relate to that one18:04
TheSheepI just have to bite the bullet and learn the third boot manager18:04
TheSheepI still can't understand what was wrong with lilo, it just worked18:04
thecrazygmonly problem i ever had with lilo was HD > 8Gb18:05
TheSheepboot partition solves that18:05
thecrazygmright18:05
thecrazygmwas about to say that18:05
thecrazygmbut now most flavors want single partition and a swap18:05
TheSheepthat whole progress is one great fraud scheme, I tell ya18:05
thecrazygmi miss the /boot / /home /usr18:05
knomenot most flavors maybe, but most users want the / only18:06
TheSheep /usr mounted as read-only!18:06
TheSheepand noexec in /home18:06
thecrazygmwell, i've had users that neede /home/uname/bin18:07
thecrazygmprogramming studies etc18:07
thecrazygmbut yeah, for the most part18:07
thecrazygmnoexec18:07
TheSheep\msg #xubuntu /var with noexec too18:07
TheSheepgrr18:07
TheSheepwrong slash :P18:07
thecrazygmthanks for pointing me to the pa utilities18:08
thecrazygmi'll play with them18:08
thecrazygmi think i'll stick around to chat though18:08
thecrazygmbut first i need a smoke break18:09
knomeTheSheep, with irssi, you can just / /var with...18:18
TheSheepknome: cool18:19
thecrazygmtjat18:19
thecrazygmnetbook sigh18:19
thecrazygmfingers are too big18:19
TheSheepthecrazygm: what am I going to say on a g1?18:19
thecrazygmi was gonna say, that's what i use, i've always loved irssi18:19
thecrazygmTheSheep: ?18:20
TheSheepthecrazygm: phone with tiny keyboard18:20
thecrazygmah18:20
TheSheeplittly itty bitty wee keyboardette18:20
thecrazygmyeah, i have an htc and blackberry curve18:21
thecrazygmi hate the teeny kb18:21
TheSheepit's better than onscreen18:21
thecrazygmtrue18:21
knomethecrazygm, you can send both those devices to my postal address18:21
thecrazygmha18:21
TheSheepknome: I still need to post that beer18:21
TheSheepknome: sorry, forgot18:21
thecrazygmfor the righ $ sure18:21
thecrazygmi don't want them anymore18:22
knomeTheSheep, heh. :) no problem. and no hurry! i just bought a few beers more today18:22
TheSheepknome: we just have to meet @ fosdem18:22
TheSheepknome: that should take care of any beer18:22
thecrazygmgot about 10min before kubuntu-beta is done then it's format time18:22
thecrazygmer xubuntu18:22
knomeawwh. well yah, though i don't know at all when i'm going to be at fosdem... :)18:22
TheSheepknome: it's worth it, if just for the beer18:23
TheSheepknome: and the conference is free18:23
knomehah!18:23
knome;)18:23
knomebut there are travel expenses..18:23
thecrazygmwere is fosdem?18:23
TheSheepthecrazygm: belgium18:23
thecrazygmah, yeah i bet the beer is fantastic there18:23
TheSheepfabulous18:23
knomeno question about it18:24
thecrazygmhell of a flight bill though18:24
TheSheepyou can take a train18:24
thecrazygmfrom the US?18:24
TheSheepnot *directly* :D18:24
thecrazygmlol18:24
thecrazygmi've been meaning to go to germany soonish18:24
thecrazygmmight just take a train18:25
knomethecrazygm, yeah, not directly, you can swim a big part of the trip18:25
TheSheepfosdem is in February18:25
thecrazygmthat when my bday is18:25
thecrazygmthat would rock18:25
thecrazygmdo you know a better way to make bootable usb sticks18:27
thecrazygmi've been using unetbootin18:27
TheSheepsystem -> startup disk creator18:27
thecrazygmi'll be damned18:28
thecrazygmalready there18:28
thecrazygmoh well18:28
thecrazygmwell, download done, bootdisk being made18:29
thecrazygmyou guys might lose me for a few18:30
thecrazygmwanna check out the beta18:30
thecrazygmit's not often i get to speak to other intelligent people18:30
thecrazygmi might pop in more often18:31
TheSheepintelligent people on irc?18:33
thecrazygmyeah18:33
TheSheepsir, you are mistaken18:33
thecrazygmoxymoronic isn't it18:33
thecrazygmall right folk be back after the format18:33
* drc wonders what he'd think about Eliza?18:34
TheSheepdrc: tell me more about what he'd think about Eliza?18:35
drc:)18:35
drcWoah...when did "windows buttons" really become (small) windows "buttons"?18:40
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TheSheepdrc: what?18:55
drcIn the panel, the "windows buttons" (last time I looked...been playing around with LMDE) were a button AND text. Unles I've missed something, the text is gone.18:59
drcOh, nevermind :)19:00
drcNever remember having to add the "show button labels: before...19:01
* drc needs more tea...he's losing it...too many distros in too few day19:01
drcAh...I <do> remember...must have unclicked the "show button labels" when I got rid of the "show handle"...getting old, tired and click happy.19:04
drcbah19:04
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thecrazygmi'm back20:36
thecrazygmstill can't get pulse audio to use my mic20:36
MK``does Xubuntu have its own log file viewer or does it use GNOME's?20:43
borja_hola20:44
charlie-tcaMK``: I don't think I use a log viewer, I just go to /var/log in thunar and view the logs in mousepad20:48
thecrazygmgah, updates need to restart20:48
thecrazygmbrb20:48
MK``Ah.20:48
charlie-tcaOTOH, I think when I did use the log viewer in Ubuntu, it was difficult for me to use.20:49
MK``is it gnome-system-log?20:50
charlie-tcais what?20:52
charlie-tcathe log viewer in gnome?20:52
charlie-tcaI don't know20:52
MK``in Xubuntu20:52
MK``if it comes with one20:52
charlie-tcaI don't think it comes with one by default20:52
MK``Ah20:52
einseenaiguys, is gallium3D driver gonna be dafault for xubuntu 11.04, too?21:25
knomegallium3d?21:26
charlie-tcagallium is the latest nvidia driver, and yes, if it is default in Ubuntu, it will be in Xubuntu21:26
einseenaicharlie-tca, but this driver is also used for radeon, isn't it?21:27
charlie-tcaI think it is, a non-propriety, nvidia and ati 3d driver21:28
einseenaithank u -)21:28
einseenaiis xubuntu beta already available?21:28
einseenaiyes, it is, sorry21:29
charlie-tcano problem21:29
charlie-tcaI can't get to the url right now, but yes, it is.21:30
charlie-tca11.04 final in one week!21:31
einseenaicharlie-tca, i guess some nice features to come ))21:52
charlie-tcayup22:02
charlie-tcaXfce 4.8, with editable menus!22:03
charlie-tcagmusicbrowser, a great wallpaper22:03
einseenaicharlie-tca, i'll have a look today )) i use ubuntu maverick, but i need a second system, either ubuntu or suse, but i'm not gonna use unity, so i think xubuntu might good variant22:06
charlie-tcaYou do know you can use classic-desktop which is like maverick, right?22:07
charlie-tcaYou just change the session at login, in Ubuntu. It will default to the session you pick after the first login22:08
einseenaicharlie-tca, well i tried 11.04 livecd, i only saw fallback mode. but dunno.22:09
charlie-tcathat's because with the live cd, you have to logout, hit the name, change the session, then hit enter on the password22:09
einseenaiyup, i know, i just didn't try ))22:10
einseenaibtw, is the new opensource broadcom driver to come, or i will have to use STA?22:10
charlie-tcaI don't know. Some people have to use STA22:11
einseenaiok22:11
charlie-tcaon the live cd, check in system -> Additional Drivers22:11
einseenaiyup ))22:11
einseenaiso exaile is no more default player, right?22:12
charlie-tcaright22:14
charlie-tcawe now have parole and gmusicbrowser22:14
einseenaiexaile was the best for me, but it doesn't have stable crossfading mode. what a pity...22:16
charlie-tcaI did get a cd to play in parole, so I guess it will work22:20
charlie-tcaknome is about the most knowledgeable person we got when it comes to playing music and the different types of files22:20
DeithrianHow to change keyboard input in Xubuntu?22:36
DeithrianI installed my language from settings and i have it in keyboard layouts22:36
Deithriani have iBus or something as method22:37
Deithrianbut when i press the shortcut it doesnt change the layout22:37
charlie-tcaYou might have to define the shortcut each login.22:37
Deithriani can only change it if i go to settings manager Keyboard and chose there the Layout?22:38
charlie-tcaThat is a reported bug in Xfce22:38
Deithrianoh22:38
Deithrianit's confusing22:38
charlie-tcaI agree22:38
Deithriani have iBus i think icon on the taskbar22:38
Deithrianand there from the input languages i can only chose Chinese which i didn't even install :)22:39
Deithrianoh well thanks :)22:39
charlie-tcaI don't even get that choice. I get the keyboard I installed only22:39
Deithrianare you on Natty?22:40
charlie-tca(installed during the installation, not later)22:40
charlie-tcayup22:40
Deithrianweird22:40
MK``ibus-setup?22:48
Deithrianwell i can't tell22:50
Deithrianjust clicked on the input methods everywhere and tried to enable things haha22:50
Deithrianno idea what i have done :)22:50
Deithriananyway disabled everything and now i'm switching from the Kayboard Layout thing22:50
vinky_I have tried the 11.04 beta. it seems like if xfce4-panel's autohide function doesnt work properly22:58
vinky_any way I can fix that?22:58
charlie-tcaWhat seems wrong with it?22:58
vinky_it hides it even though I have disabled it22:59
charlie-tcaDid you logout after disabling auto-hide?22:59
Deithrianvinky_ are you sure you disabled Panel2 and not Panel1? :)23:00
einseenaihat?23:01
vinky_charlie-tca, do I need to do that? I never needed that before. enabling it moves the lower edge of maximized windows down as I expect23:02
charlie-tcaYou said it still hides after disabling it. I would logout and log back in then. Most of the user area changes require a logout to take effect properly23:02
vinky_if I disable it, the panel is only seen if I hover over it, else I see the background instead of the panel23:03
charlie-tcaThat sounds like a bug due to the fading, it is probably theme related.23:04
charlie-tcaYou could file a bug using       ubuntu-bug xubuntu-artwork23:04
charlie-tcaIt should be visible full time23:05
vinky_yeah exactly23:05
vinky_brb23:09

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