[02:45] <Thermi> gn8
[03:08] <fslima0> has anyone upgraded to 11.04? I am afraid to lose X like I did on the regular ubuntu 11.04 :(
[06:07] <Tefad> 11.04 question
[06:07] <Tefad> why am i unable to drag taskbar items around to reposition them? how do i regain this feature?
[06:07] <Tefad> eg, i like my xterms to be in a specific sequence. in 10.10 i was able to drag the taskbar entry to where i wanted
[06:08] <bazhang> #ubuntu+1 please
[06:09] <Tefad> toodles
[15:22] <ArisVer> Hello, it is quiet here.
[15:26] <ArisVer> Does anyone know how to remove Adblock Plus from Mozilla?
[15:34] <taylorc209> select the tools menu, then add-ons. this will launch a window which allows you to remove add-ons like adblock plus
[15:50] <ArisVer> taylorc209: I can disable them (extensions) but i cannot uninstall them. Some do not have that option. It's grayed.
[15:51] <taylorc209> adblock can also be installed as a regular package with apt. likely that how it was installed. one sec i'll try to dig up the name real quick
[15:52] <taylorc209> what version are you running?
[15:53] <ArisVer> 3.6.16 , on ubuntu 10.10 btw.
[15:57] <taylorc209> try "sudo apt-get remove xul-ext-adblock-plus" sorry I don't have a 10.10 box to try it on and i believe the package has changed names between versions (also can't find it available on my natty machine)
[15:59] <ArisVer> do you know where they are located, so i can remove them manually? and i'm on xubuntu on my netbook now :)
[16:01] <ArisVer> It worked.
[16:10] <ArisVer> taylorc209: Thanks, i'm removing them all one by one.
[17:54] <thecrazygm> had a quick question for, well anyone using the natty beta of xubuntu
[17:54] <thecrazygm> does it use pulseaudio?
[17:54] <thecrazygm> my soundcard/mic don't like pulseaudio
[17:58] <TheSheep> it does, and your soundcard/mic doesn't have anything to dislike, as pulseaudio doesn't talk to it directly
[17:58] <thecrazygm> well when i use anything that needs the mic it doesn't pickup
[17:58] <thecrazygm> if i tap it the bar moves 1 notch
[17:59] <thecrazygm> if i uninstall  pulseaudio and use alsamixer
[17:59] <thecrazygm> everything is fine
[17:59] <TheSheep> install pavucontrol and set higher volume for the microphone
[17:59] <thecrazygm> i tried
[17:59] <thecrazygm> even mic boost
[18:00] <TheSheep> I can assure you that there is nothing wrong with pulseaudio
[18:00] <thecrazygm> it will not pickup anything  but yelling directly into it or banging it
[18:00] <thecrazygm> even with the mic at 100%
[18:00] <TheSheep> are you sure it's the right channel for the microphone?
[18:00] <thecrazygm> well, i read i'm not the only one with the problem
[18:00] <thecrazygm> yes, right channel
[18:01] <thecrazygm> it may be my netbook
[18:01] <thecrazygm> as i'm not the first to complain
[18:01] <TheSheep> I had similar problems, but choosing the right devices and channels fixes it
[18:02] <TheSheep> padevchooser might help too
[18:02] <thecrazygm> that one i haven't tried
[18:03] <thecrazygm> fyi, i'm not new to linux at all, just the mic is getting to me
[18:03] <thecrazygm> i needed it for a business skype call
[18:03] <TheSheep> I know, I hated pulseaudio for a time too, when it was new and I had to learn it
[18:03] <thecrazygm> and it gave me a headache
[18:03] <TheSheep> now I have the same thing with grub2
[18:03] <thecrazygm> well, i'll learn to love it then
[18:04] <thecrazygm> ha, yeah, i can relate to that one
[18:04] <TheSheep> I just have to bite the bullet and learn the third boot manager
[18:04] <TheSheep> I still can't understand what was wrong with lilo, it just worked
[18:05] <thecrazygm> only problem i ever had with lilo was HD > 8Gb
[18:05] <TheSheep> boot partition solves that
[18:05] <thecrazygm> right
[18:05] <thecrazygm> was about to say that
[18:05] <thecrazygm> but now most flavors want single partition and a swap
[18:05] <TheSheep> that whole progress is one great fraud scheme, I tell ya
[18:05] <thecrazygm> i miss the /boot / /home /usr
[18:06] <knome> not most flavors maybe, but most users want the / only
[18:06] <TheSheep>  /usr mounted as read-only!
[18:06] <TheSheep> and noexec in /home
[18:07] <thecrazygm> well, i've had users that neede /home/uname/bin
[18:07] <thecrazygm> programming studies etc
[18:07] <thecrazygm> but yeah, for the most part
[18:07] <thecrazygm> noexec
[18:07] <TheSheep> \msg #xubuntu /var with noexec too
[18:07] <TheSheep> grr
[18:07] <TheSheep> wrong slash :P
[18:08] <thecrazygm> thanks for pointing me to the pa utilities
[18:08] <thecrazygm> i'll play with them
[18:08] <thecrazygm> i think i'll stick around to chat though
[18:09] <thecrazygm> but first i need a smoke break
[18:18] <knome> TheSheep, with irssi, you can just / /var with...
[18:19] <TheSheep> knome: cool
[18:19] <thecrazygm> tjat
[18:19] <thecrazygm> netbook sigh
[18:19] <thecrazygm> fingers are too big
[18:19] <TheSheep> thecrazygm: what am I going to say on a g1?
[18:19] <thecrazygm> i was gonna say, that's what i use, i've always loved irssi
[18:20] <thecrazygm> TheSheep: ?
[18:20] <TheSheep> thecrazygm: phone with tiny keyboard
[18:20] <thecrazygm> ah
[18:20] <TheSheep> littly itty bitty wee keyboardette
[18:21] <thecrazygm> yeah, i have an htc and blackberry curve
[18:21] <thecrazygm> i hate the teeny kb
[18:21] <TheSheep> it's better than onscreen
[18:21] <thecrazygm> true
[18:21] <knome> thecrazygm, you can send both those devices to my postal address
[18:21] <thecrazygm> ha
[18:21] <TheSheep> knome: I still need to post that beer
[18:21] <TheSheep> knome: sorry, forgot
[18:21] <thecrazygm> for the righ $ sure
[18:22] <thecrazygm> i don't want them anymore
[18:22] <knome> TheSheep, heh. :) no problem. and no hurry! i just bought a few beers more today
[18:22] <TheSheep> knome: we just have to meet @ fosdem
[18:22] <TheSheep> knome: that should take care of any beer
[18:22] <thecrazygm> got about 10min before kubuntu-beta is done then it's format time
[18:22] <thecrazygm> er xubuntu
[18:22] <knome> awwh. well yah, though i don't know at all when i'm going to be at fosdem... :)
[18:23] <TheSheep> knome: it's worth it, if just for the beer
[18:23] <TheSheep> knome: and the conference is free
[18:23] <knome> hah!
[18:23] <knome> ;)
[18:23] <knome> but there are travel expenses..
[18:23] <thecrazygm> were is fosdem?
[18:23] <TheSheep> thecrazygm: belgium
[18:23] <thecrazygm> ah, yeah i bet the beer is fantastic there
[18:23] <TheSheep> fabulous
[18:24] <knome> no question about it
[18:24] <thecrazygm> hell of a flight bill though
[18:24] <TheSheep> you can take a train
[18:24] <thecrazygm> from the US?
[18:24] <TheSheep> not *directly* :D
[18:24] <thecrazygm> lol
[18:24] <thecrazygm> i've been meaning to go to germany soonish
[18:25] <thecrazygm> might just take a train
[18:25] <knome> thecrazygm, yeah, not directly, you can swim a big part of the trip
[18:25] <TheSheep> fosdem is in February
[18:25] <thecrazygm> that when my bday is
[18:25] <thecrazygm> that would rock
[18:27] <thecrazygm> do you know a better way to make bootable usb sticks
[18:27] <thecrazygm> i've been using unetbootin
[18:27] <TheSheep> system -> startup disk creator
[18:28] <thecrazygm> i'll be damned
[18:28] <thecrazygm> already there
[18:28] <thecrazygm> oh well
[18:29] <thecrazygm> well, download done, bootdisk being made
[18:30] <thecrazygm> you guys might lose me for a few
[18:30] <thecrazygm> wanna check out the beta
[18:30] <thecrazygm> it's not often i get to speak to other intelligent people
[18:31] <thecrazygm> i might pop in more often
[18:33] <TheSheep> intelligent people on irc?
[18:33] <thecrazygm> yeah
[18:33] <TheSheep> sir, you are mistaken
[18:33] <thecrazygm> oxymoronic isn't it
[18:33] <thecrazygm> all right folk be back after the format
[18:34]  * drc wonders what he'd think about Eliza?
[18:35] <TheSheep> drc: tell me more about what he'd think about Eliza?
[18:35] <drc> :)
[18:40] <drc> Woah...when did "windows buttons" really become (small) windows "buttons"?
[18:55] <TheSheep> drc: what?
[18:59] <drc> In the panel, the "windows buttons" (last time I looked...been playing around with LMDE) were a button AND text. Unles I've missed something, the text is gone.
[19:00] <drc> Oh, nevermind :)
[19:01] <drc> Never remember having to add the "show button labels: before...
[19:01]  * drc needs more tea...he's losing it...too many distros in too few day
[19:04] <drc> Ah...I <do> remember...must have unclicked the "show button labels" when I got rid of the "show handle"...getting old, tired and click happy.
[19:04] <drc> bah
[20:34] <Thermi> gn8
[20:36] <thecrazygm> i'm back
[20:36] <thecrazygm> still can't get pulse audio to use my mic
[20:43] <MK``> does Xubuntu have its own log file viewer or does it use GNOME's?
[20:44] <borja_> hola
[20:48] <charlie-tca> MK``: I don't think I use a log viewer, I just go to /var/log in thunar and view the logs in mousepad
[20:48] <thecrazygm> gah, updates need to restart
[20:48] <thecrazygm> brb
[20:48] <MK``> Ah.
[20:49] <charlie-tca> OTOH, I think when I did use the log viewer in Ubuntu, it was difficult for me to use.
[20:50] <MK``> is it gnome-system-log?
[20:52] <charlie-tca> is what?
[20:52] <charlie-tca> the log viewer in gnome?
[20:52] <charlie-tca> I don't know
[20:52] <MK``> in Xubuntu
[20:52] <MK``> if it comes with one
[20:52] <charlie-tca> I don't think it comes with one by default
[20:52] <MK``> Ah
[21:25] <einseenai> guys, is gallium3D driver gonna be dafault for xubuntu 11.04, too?
[21:26] <knome> gallium3d?
[21:26] <charlie-tca> gallium is the latest nvidia driver, and yes, if it is default in Ubuntu, it will be in Xubuntu
[21:27] <einseenai> charlie-tca, but this driver is also used for radeon, isn't it?
[21:28] <charlie-tca> I think it is, a non-propriety, nvidia and ati 3d driver
[21:28] <einseenai> thank u -)
[21:28] <einseenai> is xubuntu beta already available?
[21:29] <einseenai> yes, it is, sorry
[21:29] <charlie-tca> no problem
[21:30] <charlie-tca> I can't get to the url right now, but yes, it is.
[21:31] <charlie-tca> 11.04 final in one week!
[21:52] <einseenai> charlie-tca, i guess some nice features to come ))
[22:02] <charlie-tca> yup
[22:03] <charlie-tca> Xfce 4.8, with editable menus!
[22:03] <charlie-tca> gmusicbrowser, a great wallpaper
[22:06] <einseenai> charlie-tca, i'll have a look today )) i use ubuntu maverick, but i need a second system, either ubuntu or suse, but i'm not gonna use unity, so i think xubuntu might good variant
[22:07] <charlie-tca> You do know you can use classic-desktop which is like maverick, right?
[22:08] <charlie-tca> You just change the session at login, in Ubuntu. It will default to the session you pick after the first login
[22:09] <einseenai> charlie-tca, well i tried 11.04 livecd, i only saw fallback mode. but dunno.
[22:09] <charlie-tca> that's because with the live cd, you have to logout, hit the name, change the session, then hit enter on the password
[22:10] <einseenai> yup, i know, i just didn't try ))
[22:10] <einseenai> btw, is the new opensource broadcom driver to come, or i will have to use STA?
[22:11] <charlie-tca> I don't know. Some people have to use STA
[22:11] <einseenai> ok
[22:11] <charlie-tca> on the live cd, check in system -> Additional Drivers
[22:11] <einseenai> yup ))
[22:12] <einseenai> so exaile is no more default player, right?
[22:14] <charlie-tca> right
[22:14] <charlie-tca> we now have parole and gmusicbrowser
[22:16] <einseenai> exaile was the best for me, but it doesn't have stable crossfading mode. what a pity...
[22:20] <charlie-tca> I did get a cd to play in parole, so I guess it will work
[22:20] <charlie-tca> knome is about the most knowledgeable person we got when it comes to playing music and the different types of files
[22:36] <Deithrian> How to change keyboard input in Xubuntu?
[22:36] <Deithrian> I installed my language from settings and i have it in keyboard layouts
[22:37] <Deithrian> i have iBus or something as method
[22:37] <Deithrian> but when i press the shortcut it doesnt change the layout
[22:37] <charlie-tca> You might have to define the shortcut each login.
[22:38] <Deithrian> i can only change it if i go to settings manager Keyboard and chose there the Layout?
[22:38] <charlie-tca> That is a reported bug in Xfce
[22:38] <Deithrian> oh
[22:38] <Deithrian> it's confusing
[22:38] <charlie-tca> I agree
[22:38] <Deithrian> i have iBus i think icon on the taskbar
[22:39] <Deithrian> and there from the input languages i can only chose Chinese which i didn't even install :)
[22:39] <Deithrian> oh well thanks :)
[22:39] <charlie-tca> I don't even get that choice. I get the keyboard I installed only
[22:40] <Deithrian> are you on Natty?
[22:40] <charlie-tca> (installed during the installation, not later)
[22:40] <charlie-tca> yup
[22:40] <Deithrian> weird
[22:48] <MK``> ibus-setup?
[22:50] <Deithrian> well i can't tell
[22:50] <Deithrian> just clicked on the input methods everywhere and tried to enable things haha
[22:50] <Deithrian> no idea what i have done :)
[22:50] <Deithrian> anyway disabled everything and now i'm switching from the Kayboard Layout thing
[22:58] <vinky_> I have tried the 11.04 beta. it seems like if xfce4-panel's autohide function doesnt work properly
[22:58] <vinky_> any way I can fix that?
[22:58] <charlie-tca> What seems wrong with it?
[22:59] <vinky_> it hides it even though I have disabled it
[22:59] <charlie-tca> Did you logout after disabling auto-hide?
[23:00] <Deithrian> vinky_ are you sure you disabled Panel2 and not Panel1? :)
[23:01] <einseenai> hat?
[23:02] <vinky_> charlie-tca, do I need to do that? I never needed that before. enabling it moves the lower edge of maximized windows down as I expect
[23:02] <charlie-tca> You said it still hides after disabling it. I would logout and log back in then. Most of the user area changes require a logout to take effect properly
[23:03] <vinky_> if I disable it, the panel is only seen if I hover over it, else I see the background instead of the panel
[23:04] <charlie-tca> That sounds like a bug due to the fading, it is probably theme related.
[23:04] <charlie-tca> You could file a bug using       ubuntu-bug xubuntu-artwork
[23:05] <charlie-tca> It should be visible full time
[23:05] <vinky_> yeah exactly
[23:09] <vinky_> brb