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OmegaDBO: You here?04:11
DBOwazzup04:12
OmegaWell, the indicators are all moved to the right, the power menu and part of the me menu is not visible04:12
DBOscreenshot?04:13
OmegaMhm, uploading04:13
Omegahttp://i.imgur.com/MxlDm.png04:13
DBOOmega, change anything recently?04:14
OmegaNope.04:14
OmegaI was just browsing the 'web.04:15
DBOand it just kinda randomly did that?04:16
OmegaYup.04:16
OmegaI did change a few things today, way earlier though.04:16
OmegaEnabled a few compiz plugins.04:17
DBOweird04:17
OmegaThe only new one I enabled is Scale Addons04:17
seminattywhat is ayatana?06:58
SaammIs it possible for default metacity controls on panel to inherit color from GTK themes just like ayatana scrollbars does. The metacity controls for themes other than ambiance and radiance does not look good in unity07:37
didrocksgood morning07:56
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om26erwhy isn't unity daily ppa updated? I think this would be helpful for a few interested people to report early regressions09:52
smspillazom26er: public holiday ?10:02
om26ersmspillaz, here?10:02
om26ersmspillaz, was any further progress made on the invisible window thingy ?10:03
smspillazom26er: I haven't gotten the most recent debug output from you yet10:03
smspillazat least not as far as I can tell10:03
smspillazI get about 400 emails a day, so I may have missed it10:03
om26ersmspillaz, i sent you after that email10:04
om26erthat day10:04
smspillazah ok10:04
smspillazit probably got buried then10:04
om26eryep, it seems10:04
smspillazah ok10:04
smspillazmissed it "Incredible, as soon as I sent the email from chromium the issue appeared again.10:04
smspillazThanks!"10:05
om26erhaha that10:05
smspillazhang on a minute then, I'll look through things10:05
smspillaz(I probably don't need xwininfo -root -tree anymore)10:05
smspillazom26er: out of curiousity10:06
smspillazom26er: if you restart compiz, a window actually appears right?10:06
smspillazso a window that wasn't there before10:06
om26eronly once i saw a dummy window on unity --replace that was just a blank, resize able window10:07
om26erbut have not seen any window after that10:07
smspillazhrm ok10:07
smspillaznext time it happens, can I get the output of xprop on it too ?10:07
om26ersmspillaz, with the latest attempt you made to fix, the issue now appears after a few hours like 4-510:07
smspillazyeah, that sucks for debugging10:08
cdbsom26er, lamalex: I'll be off tomorrow, gotta travel a long way10:55
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om26ercdbs, enjoy, traverller :p11:29
jderosecdbs: have a safe trip... you're off to india, correct?  and you'll see akshatj?11:30
akshatjjderose, i will go after the UDS ends11:31
om26erjderose, he'll probably be travelling in KSA11:31
jderoseom26er: gotcha11:31
jderoseakshatj: wait, what are you talking about... where are you going?11:32
akshatjjderose, I will got to Bhopal after the UDS11:33
akshatjotherwise I would not be able to attend11:33
cdbsjderose, om26er, akshatj: Yes, its a journey from Riyadh, SA to Bhopal, India11:33
cdbsenough to clear all doubts, /me goess off11:34
jderoseakshatj: gotcha... we'd miss you on IRC, so glad you'll attend :)11:34
jderosecdbs: happy trails!11:34
smspillazom26er: poke12:21
smspillazom26er: are you able to xkill the invisible window ?12:22
smspillazsince the output I've got here12:22
smspillazsuggests that it might just be some application being stupid12:22
smspillazbecause all that happens is that they created some override redirect window and shove it in the middle of screen12:23
smspillaz.... but then again, we should be painting that ....12:23
smspillazom26er: next time you get the issue12:24
smspillazom26er: get the xwininfo -root -tree before the issue12:24
smspillazerr12:24
smspillazafter the issue12:24
smspillazand then metacity --replace &12:24
smspillazand then get the xwininfo -root -tree afterwards12:24
smspillazI want to see if this is some window we're creating12:24
smspillazactually, I might put some code in my debugging debs that overload some X functions12:25
om26ersmspillaz, i was on the pc12:37
smspillazom26er: no problem :)12:37
om26ersmspillaz, noted12:39
smspillazom26er: thanks :)12:43
spikebdidrocks, will removing the overlay-scrollbar package make gtk revert back to the old scrollbars?13:25
didrocksspikeb: yeah13:25
spikebok, thanks13:25
didrocksom26er_: FYI, I duped https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/76894313:26
ubot5Ubuntu bug 768943 in unity (Ubuntu) "Launcher gets stuck if the left edge is hit in a fullscreen app (dup-of: 763680)" [Undecided,New]13:26
ubot5Ubuntu bug 763680 in unity (Ubuntu) "Dash appears under full screen apps" [Medium,Triaged]13:26
didrocksas for me, it's the master issue13:26
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om26erdidrocks, how do you know if a system is able to run unity? is there a test command?14:17
didrocksom26er: yeah, /usr/lib/nux/unity_support_test -p14:17
didrocksom26er: this output the result if the system can or can't run unity14:18
didrocksom26er: it's normally attached to each crash, or if people tells they have graphical issues through apport14:18
om26erdidrocks, do you know if Mobility FireGL 9000 runs unity? there is a bug and the reporter thinks he have a pretty decent system14:19
om26erbug 75874714:19
ubot5Launchpad bug 758747 in unity (Ubuntu) "unity fails to load when selecting new Ubuntu desktop, classic gnome loads instead." [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/75874714:19
om26er(google is giving me nothing)14:20
didrocksom26er: I'm not really a GL guy though14:20
didrocksom26er: there is the result of unity_support_test14:20
didrockshttps://launchpadlibrarian.net/69129743/UnitySupportTest.txt14:20
didrocksdoesn't support OpenGL1.4 (can be the driver as well)14:20
didrocksand GL fragment program is set to no14:21
* om26er was not aware of UnitySupportTest.txt existed in nearly all bugs14:22
didrocksom26er: sorry, should have tell you :)14:23
om26erI should have rather looked closely :p14:24
didrocksno worry :-)14:27
didrocksso yeah, if people are telling "why isn't working", well, that means that the fallback detection works in fact :-)14:27
didrocksand you know how to prove that! :-)14:27
didrocks(then, if they run unity by hand and it crashes, that's not our problem)14:28
OmegaI'm having this problem right now: http://i.imgur.com/MxlDm.png15:33
kenvandineom26er_, thx for grabbing bug 76897415:58
ubot5Launchpad bug 768974 in papyon (Ubuntu Natty) "papyon doesn't answer server's pings" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/76897415:58
kenvandineupstream ping me overnight, said they think it was a bad merge... whoops :)15:58
om26er_kenvandine, hehe, should i defer ?15:59
kenvandineom26er_, no, please distro patch15:59
kenvandinethe bad merge was before the last release16:00
om26er_oh, ok16:00
kenvandinenothing on our end... :)16:00
kenvandinebut we need to fix it16:00
kenvandinegood for an SRU16:00
didrocksom26er_: oh btw, there is this blacklist in the test tool in case you didn't notice16:08
didrocksom26er_: the blacklist is per card, not driver16:08
didrocksom26er_: so, if people really want to have it with, let's say, nouveau, (and we blacklist because it's frozen in nvidia), they can:16:08
didrocksput UNITY_FORCE_START=1 in /etc/environment16:08
didrocksthat will basically tell the test tool "ignore all tests, go ahead"16:09
zniavre_it can works even if it crashed with the test ?16:11
om26er_lamalex, how are we on the NEW list now?17:26
om26er_lamalex, by the start of the week this 135 NEW should come to 70-80 ;)17:28
om26er_didrocks, Thanks i'll remember that :)17:35
didrocksom26er_: yw :)17:37
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nhainesHmm, can someone tell me where the blacklist for the overlay-scrollbars is?20:13
davidcallenhaines, ask Cimi_20:14
nhainesdavidcalle: thanks!20:15
nhainesCimi_: I'd like to know more about the overlay-scrollbars blacklist.  :)20:15
nhainesOh, is it just in os/os-utils.c?  :(20:17
MBarvianHello21:29
MBarvianwho would I talk to if my Natty installation constantly hangs on me?21:29
jeffrashIs this a good place to ask a question about Unity and launcher icons?22:32
spikebyes, if you can find anyone around to answer22:34
jeffrashI see22:34
jeffrashI have been unable to add my WINE applications like Word or Excel to the launcher22:35
spikebknown bug :( https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/70418722:36
ubot5Ubuntu bug 704187 in unity "Unable to add Wine applications to Unity launcher" [Medium,Triaged]22:36
jeffrashI can launch them but can't seem to add them to the favorites bar22:36
jeffrashI see22:36
jeffrashok, didn't think to check that22:36
jeffrashthanks22:37
spikebno problem22:37
jeffrashUnity seems like it would to cool, but so far it's a major pain.22:38
jeffrashIs there going to be a gubuntu?22:52
jeffrashgnome ubuntu, now that unity has taken over ubuntu?22:52
ionHow about just picking the Gnome session when logging in?22:53
jeffrashoh, you can do that?22:53
jeffrashI didn't know22:53
ftajcastro, http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=75485  (last comment)22:54
spikebyes, you can do that for one more release. then perhaps somebody will put a gnome-shell respin out.22:54
jeffrashwould that be gnome classic?22:54
spikebyes jeff22:54
jeffrashthanks22:55
jeffrashworks22:56
jcastrofta: I sent that bug to the unity bug triager person, he'll create a new bug and link it.23:10
ftajcastro, btw, i tested the fixed webapp wmclass in chromium trunk, it mostly works now. i found a regression and upstream is on it. on the unity/bamf side, there's still work to do23:12
ftajcastro, bamf is not able to see the changes in live (needs a refresh), and i see situation where unity is not able to raise chromium, even if it properly sees it, and shows the expected triangles23:14
DBOthe maximize window thing is because we handle decorate/undecorate in the WM level23:16
DBOso we clearly have a tracking issue here23:16
ftabug 71156723:18
ubot5Launchpad bug 711567 in unity (Ubuntu) "Double window controls in Chromium after enabling "Use System Title Bar and Borders"" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/71156723:18
DBOfta, as for the wmapp thing in chromium trunk23:19
DBOI dont see wmclass thing as the right way to do webapp matching23:20
DBOa clearer more defined interface would be much better23:20
ftaDBO, not my call. it has been discussed in length in bug 69246223:23
ubot5Launchpad bug 692462 in bamf (Ubuntu) "unity confused with chromium web apps" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/69246223:23
DBOfta, what is your connection to all this exactly? :)23:23
ftaDBO, i'm the chromium maintainer, but i'm not an upstream dev for it, at least not an active one23:24
DBOfta, so my long term plan for chromium/firefox/whatever is to use an NPAPI plugin to export information about tab/windows over dbus to whomever (bamf) wishes to consume it23:25
ftahm, for ch, it's worth starting a thread in the -dev mailing list23:26
ftathe sooner the better i would say23:27
ftait's already too late for M12 i'm afraid23:27
spikebhey DBO, what's the plan for wine apps on the launcher? im curious heh23:27
DBOfuck wine?23:27
spikebhaha23:27
DBOfta, M12?23:28
spikebmy users won't be pleased to hear that :P23:28
DBOno seriously though23:28
DBOwine could work great23:28
ftaDBO, chromium 12. M for Milestone23:28
DBObut they dont bother to set _NET_WM_PID on their windows23:28
DBOfta, my plan involves no changes to core of chromium23:28
DBOits just a plugin23:28
ftaoh23:29
fta:S23:29
* fta hates plugins23:29
DBOwhy?23:29
* spikeb wonders how hard it'd be to hack wine to behave properly23:30
DBOspikeb, not very hard23:44
DBOall they have to do is set 1 lousy window property23:44
bitshifternzI've found a curious bug where if I create a SDL window which is nearly the size of the screen it doesn't get any window borders. Has anyone seeen that before?23:44
spikebwhy aren't we patching wine ourselves then? heh23:45
DBOspikeb, actually thats odd23:46
DBOit seems to get set now23:46
DBOspikeb, are you launching your wine apps with a .desktop file?23:46
spikebhavent tried in a while23:53
spikebbut i was, yes.23:56

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