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valorieanybody know how to get that cute lil Kubuntu countdown?08:25
valorieRiddell had it on his blog08:25
valorieI was going to copy it from his blog, but it was hard-coded to 7 days08:25
bambeemorning :)10:20
EagleScreendid ksambashare patches go to KDE 4.6 upstream or is it Kubuntu specific by the moment?10:24
Riddellvalorie: that one was hard coded, I have the code for a general one somewhere10:27
Riddellvalorie: http://people.canonical.com/~jriddell/tmp/nattycountdown.html10:28
RiddellEagleScreen: neither10:29
EagleScreenRiddell: wont be it in natty?10:29
Riddellit is in natty10:29
EagleScreenthen, why do you say neither?10:30
Riddellbecause it's not in 4.6 upstream and not Kubuntu specific10:31
Riddellit's in upstream trunk10:31
EagleScreenoh, I understand10:31
valoriethank you Riddell10:33
bambeerhoo the nattycountdown logo rocks :D10:48
* Mamarok just found a Kubuntu 6.06 Flight 7 live CD when cleaning out the office :)10:57
kps_fooMamarok:  :D11:03
Quintasan_Hello11:27
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lumoshey, is there a key during startup to select booting kubuntu before the last update?12:28
Riddelllumos: I don't understand the question12:28
lumosRiddell, I want to load up an older version of kubuntu12:29
lumosRiddell, Last time I had to manually uninstall my graphics drivers from it and reinstall them on the updated version12:30
Riddellthere might be older linux kernel versions you can boot into, that would be at option in grub at startup12:33
lumosRiddell, Okay, thanks, I just wasn't sure because last time it gave me a list of like all the previous updated versions, and allowed me to choose which one to boot up.12:35
lumosRiddell, Sorry, the key I needed was shift :D Thanks for the help12:36
mfraz74how come autocomplete with tab for filenames in Konsole adds a space where it didn't before?12:38
mfraz74for example if I type ls /e{tab} in 10.10 it would give me ls /etc/ now it gives me ls /etc 12:41
mfraz74ah bug #76887612:42
ubottuLaunchpad bug 768876 in gnome-terminal (Ubuntu) "terminal autocompletion adds space after "cp" target folder using Tab" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/76887612:42
apacheloggerI am X I am the master of freezing13:06
apacheloggerI am X I am the master of the drivers from hell13:07
apacheloggerI am X and I fck apachelogger ever single day13:07
apacheloggerdataloss++13:07
* Riddell hugs apachelogger 13:14
apachelogger:)13:16
* apachelogger rehugs Riddell13:16
apacheloggerhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM/Archos101it <--- looks13:16
ScottKapachelogger: Nice.14:19
ScottKDoes it work on Natty too?14:19
shadeslayervalorie: have you heard about simplenoteapp?14:49
nigelbshadeslayer: dude, you free on 3rd may14:50
shadeslayerlemme check14:50
shadeslayernigelb: maybe, depends on whether or not i have a exam14:50
shadeslayermy classes end next week14:50
shadeslayernigelb: and i might have practical exams that week, so if there's no exam on that day i'll be free14:51
nigelbshadeslayer: coffee/dinner. I poked siddarths. Can you get in touch with VHanda too?14:51
shadeslayeroh i'll probably be free for coffee/dinner14:51
shadeslayernigelb: CP?14:51
nigelbshadeslayer: cp?14:51
shadeslayervishesh isn't around right now ;)14:52
shadeslayernigelb: Connaught Place14:52
nigelbshadeslayer: dude, I haz no idea of delhi, my first visit EVAR.14:52
shadeslayer:o14:52
shadeslayernigelb: where are we meeting?14:52
nigelbshadeslayer: you guys have to pick and tell him where it is :p14:52
shadeslayerlol14:52
shadeslayeri think CP is a pretty central place and everyone can come14:52
nigelbI'll call you on Monday afternoon or something.14:53
shadeslayernigelb: 2nd of May14:53
shadeslayer>14:53
shadeslayers/>/?14:53
nigelbSyup14:53
nigelberm YUP14:53
shadeslayersure no problem14:54
shadeslayerScottK: question, should i package kdepim 4.4.11 for maverick-updates? ( using kde 4.5.5 ) ?15:12
ScottKshadeslayer: Yes, but I don't want to upload it until after 4.5.5 is copied from -proposed to -updates.15:13
shadeslayerrighto15:13
shadeslayerScottK: when is that going to happen btw?15:27
shadeslayercopying from proposed to updates15:27
ScottK"soon"15:27
shadeslayerdefine soon :P15:27
ScottKIt's marked verification-done, so it's a matter of when pitti has time.  He's on vacation today, so not before next week.15:27
shadeslayerah15:28
ScottKUnless I can find someone else willing to take that chance ...15:28
shadeslayerhehe ..15:28
shadeslayerokay i'm deffering 4.4.11 for maverick to next week then 15:28
ScottKIt'd be good to get it in the -updates PPA in the meantime.15:29
shadeslayeroh ... okay15:29
ScottKsteveire_: Is 4.4.11 still good for working with the 4.4 pimlibs and the relevant akonadi?15:30
shadeslayeryofel: do you have a switch to enable the updates PPA?15:31
ScottK(I'm wondering about Lucid, since it's LTS and I have a system I use kmail with that's still on Lucid, so I can test it)15:31
rbelemapachelogger, sweet!!! :-D15:41
rbelemapachelogger, you rock!15:41
QuintasanDroidIt's just me or updated Nvidia driver causes screen corruption?15:50
QuintasanDroidlike, mismatching pixels15:51
QuintasanDroidautomagically fixed15:52
QuintasanDroidlol15:52
ScottKQuintasan: Did your screen just go nuts for ~a minute and then as things got redrawn they went back to normal?15:57
QuintasanI restarted my PC and it work15:57
debfxScottK: iirc kdepim >= 4.4.10 shouldn't be used with pimlibs 4.416:00
ScottKdebfx: Thanks.16:00
shadeslayerQuintasan: happens to me too .. i have reboot too16:01
shadeslayer*to reboot too16:01
ScottKRiddell: You around for the -release meeting?16:24
ScottKAssuming he's not, anyone have issues I need to bring up?16:24
macocrud16:40
macoi thought pykdeuic4's api had changed, causing build errors on gally. nope.16:41
macocompileUi() in pykdeuic4 is called by processUI() with only 2 arguments + the implied "self" making 3 args being sent to it, and it needs 4. pykdeuic4 is busted16:41
ScottKWell it can't be completely busted as we've got pykde apps that are working in Natty.16:52
macoScottK: possibly they weren't rebuilt?16:55
rdieter_workmaco, ScottK : see http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=26971016:55
ubottuKDE bug 269710 in general "pykdeuic4 broken in 4 6 x" [Crash,New]16:55
macordieter_work: thank you16:56
macothat's the bug exactly16:56
ScottKmaco: If you can verify that patch fixes it, we can do a 0 day SRU for it.16:57
ScottKrdieter_work: Thanks.16:57
macowill do tonight16:58
apacheloggerScottK: no16:59
ScottKapachelogger: No what?16:59
apacheloggerif the unreliability of modern computing systems didn't screw with me the page would even say why 16:59
apacheloggerScottK: doesnt work with natty16:59
ScottKOh.16:59
ScottKThat's unfortunate.17:00
apacheloggerwell, it technically would work with natty, though I am certain the foundations team did something to make it not work17:00
ScottKI vote to blame the arm team.17:00
apachelogger*shrug*17:01
shadeslayeryofel: wtf is deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/yofel/staging/ubuntu natty main doing in your maverick pbuilder!!!!17:39
shadeslayeryofel: nvm .. i was doing it wrong17:49
shadeslayeri've updated bzr with packaging from KDE PIM 4.4.11... if someone could upload the packages :)18:13
ScottKshadeslayer: To the -updates PPA, right?18:14
shadeslayerScottK: no, to natty :)18:14
shadeslayeri'm working on the maverick packages18:15
ScottKshadeslayer: Too late.  It would need to go to natty-proposed.18:15
shadeslayerScottK: but its a bug fix release, doesn't that go into the archives?18:15
ScottKshadeslayer: We're in hard pre-release freeze for Main.  Only true kitten killers get in now.18:15
shadeslayeroh .. okay18:15
ScottKDue to the micro-version release exception we have it can still get in via natty-proposed, but it'll need a bug/test case and all that stuff.18:16
shadeslayerScottK: a couple of PIMsters are asking if we can have 4.6 in natty-backports18:16
shadeslayerinstead of the experimental ppa18:16
ScottKNo.18:16
shadeslayerokay18:16
ScottKIt would absolutely have to be in oneiric before it could even be considered.18:17
ScottKI would be willing to consider it after final release though.18:17
shadeslayerassuming it gets a proper release in the oneric cycle18:17
shadeslayerthen, can we backport it to the repos?18:17
ScottKI'll consider it then.18:25
shadeslayerthanks :)18:26
shadeslayerRiddell: around? could you start a EC2 instance for me?18:27
Riddellshadeslayer: hi18:31
Riddellcan do18:31
Riddellshadeslayer: natty?18:31
shadeslayerthanks alot!18:31
shadeslayerRiddell: lucid :)18:31
Riddellhmm, I don't know if we have ec2 for lucid18:31
shadeslayeroh18:31
shadeslayerif not, then natty, i'll just have to create a pbuilder in that case18:31
Riddellseems we do18:32
Riddellthanks for doing the meeting ScottK 18:33
Riddellshadeslayer: ubuntu@ec2-50-19-8-234.compute-1.amazonaws.com18:34
tsimpsonanyone seen bug #768363 ? a couple of people in #kubuntu ran into it a little while ago (natty)18:34
ubottuLaunchpad bug 768363 in software-properties (Ubuntu) "Not able to change software origins in software-properties-kde - TypeError: coercing to Unicode: need string or buffer, NoneType found" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/76836318:34
shadeslayerRiddell: *hugs*18:34
ScottKtsimpson: Looks like a pyton2.7 related thing.18:37
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yofelshadeslayer: re, still need something?20:05
shadeslayernope, sorted it out20:05
shadeslayer:)20:05
yofel:)20:05
shadeslayeryofel: btw in lucid pbuilder-debuild says it cannot find the -E switch in sudo20:06
shadeslayerany ideas how to fix0r that20:06
yofelo.O20:07
yofelhaven't seen that yet20:07
shadeslayeryofel: /usr/bin/debuild-pbuilder: line 14: sudo -E: command not found20:09
shadeslayerand line 14 is : "$PBUILDERROOTCMD" "$PBUILDERSATISFYDEPENDSCMD"20:10
yofelo.O?20:10
yofelah20:10
shadeslayerhm?20:11
yofelshadeslayer: did you even install sudo?20:11
yofelit's not installed by default20:11
shadeslayeryes20:11
shadeslayer  Installed: 1.7.2p1-1ubuntu5.320:11
yofelno idea why it would fail then20:12
yofelhow did you call it?20:13
shadeslayerdebuild-pbuilder20:13
shadeslayerthat's it20:13
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yofeltrue20:19
shadeslayerfound the culprit20:19
shadeslayer"$PBUILDERROOTCMD"20:20
shadeslayerinstead of $PBUILDERROOTCMD20:20
yofelheh20:20
yofelwonder why this doesn't fail in natty though20:20
shadeslayerbecause natty has the fix20:21
shadeslayerlucid has the double quotes in the script20:21
shadeslayeri feel like debuild-pbuilder just trolled me20:21
yofelhaha20:21
shadeslayertime to file a bug report ;)20:22
ScottK"wontfix - developers should be running the current release so SRU is not warranted"20:26
yofelheh, I'll put that into a PPA then at least ^^20:27
shadeslayerlol20:27
QuintasanHMMM20:43
QuintasanRiddell, shadeslayer: Any suggestions on what should I bring to UDS apart from extra $$$ and computer?20:43
shadeslayerQuintasan: hmm ... nothing else i suppose... some medication i guess20:44
Quintasanahh, you mean like stuff for unexpected fever or something?20:44
shadeslayeryep20:45
shadeslayergeneric medication20:45
Quintasanhmm20:45
QuintasanI should register at the udsreg page now that I've got my tickets20:46
shadeslayer:)20:50
shadeslayerQuintasan: sit near the mikes!20:50
Quintasanmikes?20:50
shadeslayerand beware of apachelogger .. you know what he looks like20:50
shadeslayerQuintasan: yeah, for the audio streams20:50
QuintasanOHSHI-20:51
QuintasanI'M DEPARTING FROM BERLIN20:51
Quintasanapachelogger: ^20:51
shadeslayerhaha20:51
Quintasanoh, seat reservation is not available for that flight20:51
yofelwth. is up with that flight plan o.O20:51
QuintasanThat's what lady from BTS told me20:51
Quintasanyofel: You're going to UDS?20:51
yofelnope20:52
QuintasanIt's only me from Project Neon then?20:52
shadeslayeryep20:52
QuintasanHa, well. The best thing about UDS is that I might possibly learn how the hell do you actually pronouce Ubuntu :DDD20:53
* Quintasan somehow heard at least 10 variants20:53
shadeslayerYou-boon-too :P20:54
Quintasanhmm20:54
QuintasanSounds plausible20:54
Quintasanyoou-boon-tooh20:54
Quintasan:D20:54
Quintasanbrb, gotta play Heroes of Newerth20:55
bambeeOU-boon-too ? :P20:56
shadeslayerwhee20:56
* shadeslayer just sync'd all his google contacts into akonadi using syncevolution20:56
shadeslayerand now they're in Nokia's Ovi store ^_^21:00
ScottKFlight reservations: Done.21:01
ScottKMisspelled name on the ticket: Fixed.21:13
bambeeempty beer mug: Fixed.21:18
* bambee no longer see his fingers on the keyboard21:19
bambee:\21:19
shadeslayerScottK: KDE PIM 4.4.11.1 for maverick in backports right>?22:14
ScottKshadeslayer: No.  -updates PPA for now and then maverick-proposed after 4.5.5 is copied to maverick-updates.22:15
shadeslayerScottK: there's no KDE 4.6 in updates22:15
ScottKBut 4.4.11 is fine with 4.5, right?22:16
shadeslayerand we put in a depends on 4.6 in the control file22:16
shadeslayeryes22:16
ScottKI thought it was just 4.4 it was no good with.22:16
ScottKWell don't do that then.22:16
shadeslayerdon't do what ? :D22:16
ScottKThe Maverick package should be based on the Maverick packaging, not the Natty packaging.22:17
shadeslayerah okay22:17
ScottKDon't put 4.6 in depends.22:17
shadeslayerright .. fixing22:17
QuintasanFull Circle == so much win23:32
Quintasanhttp://people.ubuntu.com/~quintasan/uploads/kaptionqV2943.png23:32
* yofel would like to see a desktop DVD with unity, gnome, KDE SC, Xfce and lxde choosable at boot23:46

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