[08:25] <valorie> anybody know how to get that cute lil Kubuntu countdown?
[08:25] <valorie> Riddell had it on his blog
[08:25] <valorie> I was going to copy it from his blog, but it was hard-coded to 7 days
[10:20] <bambee> morning :)
[10:24] <EagleScreen> did ksambashare patches go to KDE 4.6 upstream or is it Kubuntu specific by the moment?
[10:27] <Riddell> valorie: that one was hard coded, I have the code for a general one somewhere
[10:28] <Riddell> valorie: http://people.canonical.com/~jriddell/tmp/nattycountdown.html
[10:29] <Riddell> EagleScreen: neither
[10:29] <EagleScreen> Riddell: wont be it in natty?
[10:29] <Riddell> it is in natty
[10:30] <EagleScreen> then, why do you say neither?
[10:31] <Riddell> because it's not in 4.6 upstream and not Kubuntu specific
[10:31] <Riddell> it's in upstream trunk
[10:31] <EagleScreen> oh, I understand
[10:33] <valorie> thank you Riddell
[10:48] <bambee> rhoo the nattycountdown logo rocks :D
[10:57]  * Mamarok just found a Kubuntu 6.06 Flight 7 live CD when cleaning out the office :)
[11:03] <kps_foo> Mamarok:  :D
[11:27] <Quintasan_> Hello
[12:28] <lumos> hey, is there a key during startup to select booting kubuntu before the last update?
[12:28] <Riddell> lumos: I don't understand the question
[12:29] <lumos> Riddell, I want to load up an older version of kubuntu
[12:30] <lumos> Riddell, Last time I had to manually uninstall my graphics drivers from it and reinstall them on the updated version
[12:33] <Riddell> there might be older linux kernel versions you can boot into, that would be at option in grub at startup
[12:35] <lumos> Riddell, Okay, thanks, I just wasn't sure because last time it gave me a list of like all the previous updated versions, and allowed me to choose which one to boot up.
[12:36] <lumos> Riddell, Sorry, the key I needed was shift :D Thanks for the help
[12:38] <mfraz74> how come autocomplete with tab for filenames in Konsole adds a space where it didn't before?
[12:41] <mfraz74> for example if I type ls /e{tab} in 10.10 it would give me ls /etc/ now it gives me ls /etc 
[12:42] <mfraz74> ah bug #768876
[13:06] <apachelogger> I am X I am the master of freezing
[13:07] <apachelogger> I am X I am the master of the drivers from hell
[13:07] <apachelogger> I am X and I fck apachelogger ever single day
[13:07] <apachelogger> dataloss++
[13:14]  * Riddell hugs apachelogger 
[13:16] <apachelogger> :)
[13:16]  * apachelogger rehugs Riddell
[13:16] <apachelogger> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM/Archos101it <--- looks
[14:19] <ScottK> apachelogger: Nice.
[14:19] <ScottK> Does it work on Natty too?
[14:49] <shadeslayer> valorie: have you heard about simplenoteapp?
[14:50] <nigelb> shadeslayer: dude, you free on 3rd may
[14:50] <shadeslayer> lemme check
[14:50] <shadeslayer> nigelb: maybe, depends on whether or not i have a exam
[14:50] <shadeslayer> my classes end next week
[14:51] <shadeslayer> nigelb: and i might have practical exams that week, so if there's no exam on that day i'll be free
[14:51] <nigelb> shadeslayer: coffee/dinner. I poked siddarths. Can you get in touch with VHanda too?
[14:51] <shadeslayer> oh i'll probably be free for coffee/dinner
[14:51] <shadeslayer> nigelb: CP?
[14:51] <nigelb> shadeslayer: cp?
[14:52] <shadeslayer> vishesh isn't around right now ;)
[14:52] <shadeslayer> nigelb: Connaught Place
[14:52] <nigelb> shadeslayer: dude, I haz no idea of delhi, my first visit EVAR.
[14:52] <shadeslayer> :o
[14:52] <shadeslayer> nigelb: where are we meeting?
[14:52] <nigelb> shadeslayer: you guys have to pick and tell him where it is :p
[14:52] <shadeslayer> lol
[14:52] <shadeslayer> i think CP is a pretty central place and everyone can come
[14:53] <nigelb> I'll call you on Monday afternoon or something.
[14:53] <shadeslayer> nigelb: 2nd of May
[14:53] <shadeslayer> >
[14:53] <shadeslayer> s/>/?
[14:53] <nigelb> Syup
[14:53] <nigelb> erm YUP
[14:54] <shadeslayer> sure no problem
[15:12] <shadeslayer> ScottK: question, should i package kdepim 4.4.11 for maverick-updates? ( using kde 4.5.5 ) ?
[15:13] <ScottK> shadeslayer: Yes, but I don't want to upload it until after 4.5.5 is copied from -proposed to -updates.
[15:13] <shadeslayer> righto
[15:27] <shadeslayer> ScottK: when is that going to happen btw?
[15:27] <shadeslayer> copying from proposed to updates
[15:27] <ScottK> "soon"
[15:27] <shadeslayer> define soon :P
[15:27] <ScottK> It's marked verification-done, so it's a matter of when pitti has time.  He's on vacation today, so not before next week.
[15:28] <shadeslayer> ah
[15:28] <ScottK> Unless I can find someone else willing to take that chance ...
[15:28] <shadeslayer> hehe ..
[15:28] <shadeslayer> okay i'm deffering 4.4.11 for maverick to next week then 
[15:29] <ScottK> It'd be good to get it in the -updates PPA in the meantime.
[15:29] <shadeslayer> oh ... okay
[15:30] <ScottK> steveire_: Is 4.4.11 still good for working with the 4.4 pimlibs and the relevant akonadi?
[15:31] <shadeslayer> yofel: do you have a switch to enable the updates PPA?
[15:31] <ScottK> (I'm wondering about Lucid, since it's LTS and I have a system I use kmail with that's still on Lucid, so I can test it)
[15:41] <rbelem> apachelogger, sweet!!! :-D
[15:41] <rbelem> apachelogger, you rock!
[15:50] <QuintasanDroid> It's just me or updated Nvidia driver causes screen corruption?
[15:51] <QuintasanDroid> like, mismatching pixels
[15:52] <QuintasanDroid> automagically fixed
[15:52] <QuintasanDroid> lol
[15:57] <ScottK> Quintasan: Did your screen just go nuts for ~a minute and then as things got redrawn they went back to normal?
[15:57] <Quintasan> I restarted my PC and it work
[16:00] <debfx> ScottK: iirc kdepim >= 4.4.10 shouldn't be used with pimlibs 4.4
[16:00] <ScottK> debfx: Thanks.
[16:01] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: happens to me too .. i have reboot too
[16:01] <shadeslayer> *to reboot too
[16:24] <ScottK> Riddell: You around for the -release meeting?
[16:24] <ScottK> Assuming he's not, anyone have issues I need to bring up?
[16:40] <maco> crud
[16:41] <maco> i thought pykdeuic4's api had changed, causing build errors on gally. nope.
[16:41] <maco> compileUi() in pykdeuic4 is called by processUI() with only 2 arguments + the implied "self" making 3 args being sent to it, and it needs 4. pykdeuic4 is busted
[16:52] <ScottK> Well it can't be completely busted as we've got pykde apps that are working in Natty.
[16:55] <maco> ScottK: possibly they weren't rebuilt?
[16:55] <rdieter_work> maco, ScottK : see http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=269710
[16:56] <maco> rdieter_work: thank you
[16:56] <maco> that's the bug exactly
[16:57] <ScottK> maco: If you can verify that patch fixes it, we can do a 0 day SRU for it.
[16:57] <ScottK> rdieter_work: Thanks.
[16:58] <maco> will do tonight
[16:59] <apachelogger> ScottK: no
[16:59] <ScottK> apachelogger: No what?
[16:59] <apachelogger> if the unreliability of modern computing systems didn't screw with me the page would even say why 
[16:59] <apachelogger> ScottK: doesnt work with natty
[16:59] <ScottK> Oh.
[17:00] <ScottK> That's unfortunate.
[17:00] <apachelogger> well, it technically would work with natty, though I am certain the foundations team did something to make it not work
[17:00] <ScottK> I vote to blame the arm team.
[17:01] <apachelogger> *shrug*
[17:39] <shadeslayer> yofel: wtf is deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/yofel/staging/ubuntu natty main doing in your maverick pbuilder!!!!
[17:49] <shadeslayer> yofel: nvm .. i was doing it wrong
[18:13] <shadeslayer> i've updated bzr with packaging from KDE PIM 4.4.11... if someone could upload the packages :)
[18:14] <ScottK> shadeslayer: To the -updates PPA, right?
[18:14] <shadeslayer> ScottK: no, to natty :)
[18:15] <shadeslayer> i'm working on the maverick packages
[18:15] <ScottK> shadeslayer: Too late.  It would need to go to natty-proposed.
[18:15] <shadeslayer> ScottK: but its a bug fix release, doesn't that go into the archives?
[18:15] <ScottK> shadeslayer: We're in hard pre-release freeze for Main.  Only true kitten killers get in now.
[18:15] <shadeslayer> oh .. okay
[18:16] <ScottK> Due to the micro-version release exception we have it can still get in via natty-proposed, but it'll need a bug/test case and all that stuff.
[18:16] <shadeslayer> ScottK: a couple of PIMsters are asking if we can have 4.6 in natty-backports
[18:16] <shadeslayer> instead of the experimental ppa
[18:16] <ScottK> No.
[18:16] <shadeslayer> okay
[18:17] <ScottK> It would absolutely have to be in oneiric before it could even be considered.
[18:17] <ScottK> I would be willing to consider it after final release though.
[18:17] <shadeslayer> assuming it gets a proper release in the oneric cycle
[18:17] <shadeslayer> then, can we backport it to the repos?
[18:25] <ScottK> I'll consider it then.
[18:26] <shadeslayer> thanks :)
[18:27] <shadeslayer> Riddell: around? could you start a EC2 instance for me?
[18:31] <Riddell> shadeslayer: hi
[18:31] <Riddell> can do
[18:31] <Riddell> shadeslayer: natty?
[18:31] <shadeslayer> thanks alot!
[18:31] <shadeslayer> Riddell: lucid :)
[18:31] <Riddell> hmm, I don't know if we have ec2 for lucid
[18:31] <shadeslayer> oh
[18:31] <shadeslayer> if not, then natty, i'll just have to create a pbuilder in that case
[18:32] <Riddell> seems we do
[18:33] <Riddell> thanks for doing the meeting ScottK 
[18:34] <Riddell> shadeslayer: ubuntu@ec2-50-19-8-234.compute-1.amazonaws.com
[18:34] <tsimpson> anyone seen bug #768363 ? a couple of people in #kubuntu ran into it a little while ago (natty)
[18:34] <shadeslayer> Riddell: *hugs*
[18:37] <ScottK> tsimpson: Looks like a pyton2.7 related thing.
[20:05] <yofel> shadeslayer: re, still need something?
[20:05] <shadeslayer> nope, sorted it out
[20:05] <shadeslayer> :)
[20:05] <yofel> :)
[20:06] <shadeslayer> yofel: btw in lucid pbuilder-debuild says it cannot find the -E switch in sudo
[20:06] <shadeslayer> any ideas how to fix0r that
[20:07] <yofel> o.O
[20:07] <yofel> haven't seen that yet
[20:09] <shadeslayer> yofel: /usr/bin/debuild-pbuilder: line 14: sudo -E: command not found
[20:10] <shadeslayer> and line 14 is : "$PBUILDERROOTCMD" "$PBUILDERSATISFYDEPENDSCMD"
[20:10] <yofel> o.O?
[20:10] <yofel> ah
[20:11] <shadeslayer> hm?
[20:11] <yofel> shadeslayer: did you even install sudo?
[20:11] <yofel> it's not installed by default
[20:11] <shadeslayer> yes
[20:11] <shadeslayer>   Installed: 1.7.2p1-1ubuntu5.3
[20:12] <yofel> no idea why it would fail then
[20:13] <yofel> how did you call it?
[20:13] <shadeslayer> debuild-pbuilder
[20:13] <shadeslayer> that's it
[20:19] <yofel> true
[20:19] <shadeslayer> found the culprit
[20:20] <shadeslayer> "$PBUILDERROOTCMD"
[20:20] <shadeslayer> instead of $PBUILDERROOTCMD
[20:20] <yofel> heh
[20:20] <yofel> wonder why this doesn't fail in natty though
[20:21] <shadeslayer> because natty has the fix
[20:21] <shadeslayer> lucid has the double quotes in the script
[20:21] <shadeslayer> i feel like debuild-pbuilder just trolled me
[20:21] <yofel> haha
[20:22] <shadeslayer> time to file a bug report ;)
[20:26] <ScottK> "wontfix - developers should be running the current release so SRU is not warranted"
[20:27] <yofel> heh, I'll put that into a PPA then at least ^^
[20:27] <shadeslayer> lol
[20:43] <Quintasan> HMMM
[20:43] <Quintasan> Riddell, shadeslayer: Any suggestions on what should I bring to UDS apart from extra $$$ and computer?
[20:44] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: hmm ... nothing else i suppose... some medication i guess
[20:44] <Quintasan> ahh, you mean like stuff for unexpected fever or something?
[20:45] <shadeslayer> yep
[20:45] <shadeslayer> generic medication
[20:45] <Quintasan> hmm
[20:46] <Quintasan> I should register at the udsreg page now that I've got my tickets
[20:50] <shadeslayer> :)
[20:50] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: sit near the mikes!
[20:50] <Quintasan> mikes?
[20:50] <shadeslayer> and beware of apachelogger .. you know what he looks like
[20:50] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: yeah, for the audio streams
[20:51] <Quintasan> OHSHI-
[20:51] <Quintasan> I'M DEPARTING FROM BERLIN
[20:51] <Quintasan> apachelogger: ^
[20:51] <shadeslayer> haha
[20:51] <Quintasan> oh, seat reservation is not available for that flight
[20:51] <yofel> wth. is up with that flight plan o.O
[20:51] <Quintasan> That's what lady from BTS told me
[20:51] <Quintasan> yofel: You're going to UDS?
[20:52] <yofel> nope
[20:52] <Quintasan> It's only me from Project Neon then?
[20:52] <shadeslayer> yep
[20:53] <Quintasan> Ha, well. The best thing about UDS is that I might possibly learn how the hell do you actually pronouce Ubuntu :DDD
[20:53]  * Quintasan somehow heard at least 10 variants
[20:54] <shadeslayer> You-boon-too :P
[20:54] <Quintasan> hmm
[20:54] <Quintasan> Sounds plausible
[20:54] <Quintasan> yoou-boon-tooh
[20:54] <Quintasan> :D
[20:55] <Quintasan> brb, gotta play Heroes of Newerth
[20:56] <bambee> OU-boon-too ? :P
[20:56] <shadeslayer> whee
[20:56]  * shadeslayer just sync'd all his google contacts into akonadi using syncevolution
[21:00] <shadeslayer> and now they're in Nokia's Ovi store ^_^
[21:01] <ScottK> Flight reservations: Done.
[21:13] <ScottK> Misspelled name on the ticket: Fixed.
[21:18] <bambee> empty beer mug: Fixed.
[21:19]  * bambee no longer see his fingers on the keyboard
[21:19] <bambee> :\
[22:14] <shadeslayer> ScottK: KDE PIM 4.4.11.1 for maverick in backports right>?
[22:15] <ScottK> shadeslayer: No.  -updates PPA for now and then maverick-proposed after 4.5.5 is copied to maverick-updates.
[22:15] <shadeslayer> ScottK: there's no KDE 4.6 in updates
[22:16] <ScottK> But 4.4.11 is fine with 4.5, right?
[22:16] <shadeslayer> and we put in a depends on 4.6 in the control file
[22:16] <shadeslayer> yes
[22:16] <ScottK> I thought it was just 4.4 it was no good with.
[22:16] <ScottK> Well don't do that then.
[22:16] <shadeslayer> don't do what ? :D
[22:17] <ScottK> The Maverick package should be based on the Maverick packaging, not the Natty packaging.
[22:17] <shadeslayer> ah okay
[22:17] <ScottK> Don't put 4.6 in depends.
[22:17] <shadeslayer> right .. fixing
[23:32] <Quintasan> Full Circle == so much win
[23:32] <Quintasan> http://people.ubuntu.com/~quintasan/uploads/kaptionqV2943.png
[23:46]  * yofel would like to see a desktop DVD with unity, gnome, KDE SC, Xfce and lxde choosable at boot