[00:02] weird.. alt+T (new terminal) and alt+f2 don't work.. but alt+f does (starting the web browser [00:08] in unity? [00:08] classic [00:11] sorry, got disconnected [00:20] majnoon: they should just nuke wubi from orbit.. putting it on the live cd, is terrible... to many people use wubi, and have no idea what they are doing [00:21] may try on windows 7 virtualbox first] [00:22] majnoon: what, ubuntu 11.04/ [00:23] yup [00:23] been a lot of issues getting it working w/ Vbox.. but maybe you'll have better luck [00:23] see if it working [00:23] well, jsut cuz it boots(or in many cases, doesn't boot) on vbox, doesn't mean its not working [00:23] even if x no work can see if the wubi part does [00:24] on reg partitions have meerkat,opensuse,darwin,vista and freebsd running [00:25] (mostly boredom and lotsa time) [00:29] jcgs you here [00:29] i need help with intel 845gl graphics card [00:29] linuxman410: yeah :) [00:30] linuxman410: still not fixed yet? :( [00:30] jcgs still have not got it fix to change resolution [00:31] jcgs how do i rewrite the xorg.conf file and replace existing one [00:32] jcgs i lost that link you found me [00:32] linuxman410: do you have one? it isn't there by default. is this the link you were after? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Bugs/Mavericki8xxStatus [00:33] jcgs how do i do this [00:34] linuxman410: go to the bottom section called "enabling the vesa driver" [00:34] jcgs how do i create the file [00:35] you're using gnome, aren't you? [00:35] Well. I found out what updating with a CD just uninstall everything and install the base system. [00:35] jcgs yes i am using gnome [00:35] then press alt+f2 and type "gksudo gedit" (without quotes) and hit enter [00:36] it should ask for your password, then open the text editor. paste in the file contents and then "save as" /etc/X11/xorg.conf like normal :) [00:37] Eitherway, I am experiencing an issue with multiple desktops that I am almost sure is a known bug but which I cant find. When I try to select an app with the unity panel that is in a another desktop "touching" the borders, it doesn't move to that workspace. Somebody experiencing this? [00:37] sorry scb, I'm using kubuntu on only one monitor, so I'm no use :( [00:38] jcgs now what [00:38] i find a somethings i LIKE :) [00:38] jcgs: how is Kubuntu on this release? I really liked KDE 4.6 but Ubuntu is very well known for its below average kde releases. [00:39] linuxman410: restart X :) [00:39] if run wubi from the cdrom it no download :) [00:39] restart whole computer [00:40] <--has virtual cdroms in vista :) [00:40] linuxman410: just loggin out and logging in again should do it.. [00:41] hang on trying now [00:42] is there a virtualbox chan on this server ?? [00:43] scb: not bad, never used plain ubuntu because i think gnome looks a bit corny, and kde's structure is closer to windows. they fixed some problems with the graphics, so the desktop effects are much improved. transparent popups look pretty smart :) [00:43] jcgs: interesting, I'll install it. kubuntu-desktop is the meta-package right? [00:43] also, sorry for being inflamatory about gnome, not generally advisable for long-term peace, tight [00:44] jcgs: meh, just use the right tool for the job :-) [00:44] *right. scb: yeah that's the one. [00:44] i found out YUP :) [00:45] i think gnome is a little to close to mac for my liking... [00:48] jcgs that went very bad computer will not boot am on backup computer [00:50] jcgs now what [00:51] yofel_, well it seams that everything is working finally :) he problem was that when i replace the file in usr/share/blabla/kaffeine/ it changed the "Group" permissions of the file so Kaffeine couldn't read it :) so your build works just fine thanks again [00:52] jcgs how can i delete the file we created so computer will boot again [00:54] linuxman410: what happened? can you login on text terminal (press ctrl+alt+f2)? [00:54] linuxman410: did you need to reboot [00:54] jcgs i rebooted and it stops and hangs up [00:56] jcgs is there a safe mode or a way to boot straight into commandline [00:57] jcgs i booted in using ctrl alt f2 i am logged in now what [00:58] do this command: sudo rm /etc/X11/xorg.conf [00:58] does anyone know what the rough percentages are of people using Natty on gnome, kde, etc? [00:59] that will delete the xorg.conf file [00:59] so far so good in vbox [00:59] you said you were using KDE right, jcgs? [00:59] hardcold: be tough to get accurate data on.. you could probably generalize by looking at download statistics of ubuntu, kubuntu, xubuntu, etc [00:59] hardcold: yeah :) [00:59] majnoon: you're having better luck than i did from the sounds of it. [01:00] linuxman410: now do: sudo gdm === yofel_ is now known as yofel [01:00] * KM0201 is now known as KM0201 [01:00] ;) [01:00] KM0201, so if I want to use KDE I install Kubuntu? [01:00] jcgs i am in gnome desktop now [01:01] good? [01:01] hardcold: you don't *have* to do that.. you can install KDE on top of Gnome.. (although i hate mixing the two).. but that would be the only real way to get any sort of statistical data [01:01] well, either kubuntu, or you install 'kubuntu-desktop' in ubuntu and switch from gdm/kdm [01:01] jcgs any other ideals i could try [01:01] hardcold: you could also use a virtualbox if you wanted to try it out [01:02] it seems like gnome is trying to be more OSX'ish and KDE is trying to be more Windows'ish [01:02] linuxman410: which xorg.conf did you use? [01:02] vesa [01:02] linuxman410: the one from the top of the page, or the one from the bottom? [01:03] jcgs bottom [01:03] * yofel is off to bed, gn [01:04] linuxman410: oh well, just a thought. you could try the other set of instructions? sadly, messing around with the graphics is going to cause lots of things like that to happen, where X just won't start properly :( [01:05] KM0201, do you have a quick link to those download figures? [01:06] hardcold: no i don't.. [01:06] thats what i was saying, unless you had access to them, it'd be really tough to tell. [01:06] I'm not successfully googling at the moment [01:06] linuxman410: which kernel are you using? command: uname -r [01:07] hardcold: i believe distrowatch.org counts how mahy times a distor has been downloaded... (could be wrong).. but its not gonna break it down by natty, maverick, etc.. [01:07] hardcold: that might give you a *VERY* general idea [01:07] hardcold: there probably just aren't any because there's loads of mirrors, and people can get it through bittorent and stuff [01:08] i wouldn't count on it being very accurate [01:08] jcgs 2.6.38-8-generic [01:08] kk same as me :) [01:09] KM0201, yeah I was just interest in a rough idea of how many ubuntu users are on kde, gnome, and so on. I assume the majority are on the ubuntu default. [01:10] hey guys, can someone check this bug out? http://img151.imageshack.us/i/pantallazong.png/ [01:10] hardcold: that would be my guess as well. [01:11] is weird.... i dont know if theres something wrong with my installation or if this happened to someone else? [01:11] KM0201, wow. when you google "linux" ubuntu is at the top of the list now. [01:11] hardcold: that surprises you? [01:12] although, i have to admit its a little odd that its higher than the 'Linux' wiki..lol [01:12] when i just googled it, debian was top :S [01:12] KM0201, wasn't that way the last time I checked. Used to be linux.com [01:12] wonder if it matters based on what OS you use. [01:12] anybody here got a windows PC? [01:12] lol [01:12] if you google Linux from a windows PC, it probably pops up a malware warning [01:13] Ah, yeah, I'll check in OSX [01:14] hardcold: http://imagebin.org/149534 not what you get? [01:18] ok what is the EASIEST WAY TO GET KERNL HEADERS ?? [01:19] (sorry hit capslock:( [01:20] Install your linux-headers package of choice [01:24] jcgs the top one work i have no 3d effects but i can change resolution [01:24] linuxman410: that's good :) can you switch the effects on by pressing alt-shift-f12? (may need to do this twice) [01:25] ah, yes...http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/04/how-to-add-folder-quicklists-to-the-home-launcher-in-ubuntu-unity/ [01:28] link fail [01:29] I have always wondered how hard it is to have a PPA and make ubuntu packages. [01:32] anyone using empathy and having a problem setting themselves away in 11.04? [01:32] keeps going to busy. [01:34] invisible does [01:35] done it since, forever [01:35] 1 more bug never getting fixed ever it seems. [01:35] * mongy releases the pidgins [01:41] hi guys, I just dist-upgraded from 10.10 to natty, but I'm not getting unity as my window manager, isn't this supposed to be default? === wangyang0123 is now known as firedfox [01:48] jcgs, no, it's ubuntu at the top in every browser on every platform I haves tested. Keep in mind I don't use cookies and clear flash lso, so I don't get targetted stuff beyond location and browser type. [01:48] is there a way to get more than 4 desktops? Is there a way to get rid of the snap area at the buttom right for application windows? (I have a screenlet that is a clock and that looks terrible with that) [01:50] spacebug-, you can get more than 4 desktops through ccsm [01:50] I'll look into that, tnx [01:50] Actually, ccsm is compizconfig-settings-manager package [01:51] It's upon "General Options"'s last tab, I thinkj [01:51] hardcold: indeed, how bizzare, how google mistreats it's users :( [01:52] jcgs, I'll e-mail you a screenshot [01:52] hardcold: don't bother, i trust you :) did it in an 'incognito' window (privacy mode) and got ubuntu top :S [01:53] aha [01:53] You are Chris, yes? [01:54] you posted your e-mail address in that shot (perhaps you want to remove it) [01:55] jcgs, ^^ [01:56] hardcold: how do i do that? [01:56] jcgs, remove an image from imagebin? [01:57] yeah, how do i do it? [01:57] pidgin uses app indicators now too for 11.04, right? [01:58] jcgs, it appears you can't [01:58] --yet another reason I don't use cookies let alone google tracking "services" [01:59] it's no big deal, though [01:59] hardcold: i didn't think about that :( why does ubuntu recommend it? [01:59] jcgs, recommend what? [02:00] !pastebin [02:00] For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. [02:00] hardcold: it will be gone in 14 days, or after 2000 images are added, so it's no biggie, i guess [02:00] well, the probably assume people will not be submitting pictures of stuff they don't want other people to see? [02:01] jcgs, yeah, like I said, no big deal [02:01] but next time you may want to crop before you post, or double check what it is your are sending (or sent, for that matter) [02:02] I shouldn't have said anything, I just notice details. [02:02] yeah, i'd normally blur or w/e, but i just didn't think about it. anyway, nice to know that someone else is looking out for you :) [02:02] ty for that ;) [02:10] jcgs, I learned something new too, never heard of imagebin before. That's a really handy service! http://imagebin.org/149544 [02:11] yeah. i never used it before either, always just used opera unite (essentially a webserver on my computer) [02:59] I want to know when I looked at the release of ubuntu 11.04 for netbook edition its stated as "starting with Ubuntu 11.04 the netbook edition has been merged into the desktop edition." What is that mean? [03:00] Aiya: it means that the "unity" desktop, on 11.04, is "default" [03:00] Aiya: There is no more netbook edition in natty. Instead, the desktop interface adapts to different screen sizes. [03:02] I like the new xubuntu better for my netbook [03:02] I wounder Im now running on 10.04,So I can update straight to 11.04 right or need to reinstall? [03:02] Aiya: you'd need to upgrade to 10.10 and then 11.04. [03:04] rww : I have upgrade to 10.10(i test in vertual disk) but the 3D effect is freezing often so I didnt upgrade on my laptop. [03:08] hi i have installed ubuntu server i need some tool for monitor my network === vinsonizer|away is now known as vinsonizer [03:28] Aiya: you can use the 11.04 cd [03:29] Admin__: monitor what on your network? [03:35] band width [03:35] pmatulis: band width [03:36] Admin__: one logical place is at a f/w . iptables f/w can do it [03:37] Admin__: http://is.gd/Uv0nJ5 [03:38] ok can it do openmns [03:38] too [03:48] I have dual screens, my laptop is on the right, and another monitor is on the left. So this unity var is very awkwardly in the middle. [03:48] any advice to change this and make it less clunky for me? [03:50] unity bar* rather [03:50] the vertical bar thing [04:01] upgrades upgrades upgrades1 [04:02] hmm, it looks like there is no good solution [04:02] man, i just bought this keyboard and the friggn shift key is gioing bad.. [04:02] I guess I'll switch back to gnome or something else [04:02] unstable: no good solution for what? [04:02] I have dual screens, my laptop is on the right, and another monitor is on the left. So this unity vertical bar is very awkwardly in the middle. [04:03] https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/683084 [04:03] Ubuntu bug 683084 in unity (Ubuntu) "Global menu doesn't work well with more than one screen" [Medium,Triaged] [04:04] hello, my install seems to not work perfectly on boot [04:04] unstable: hmm [04:05] not messed w/ unity on dual screens yet [04:05] It works badly [04:05] There is no solution. [04:05] except to not use unity [04:05] or get rid of a monitor [04:05] it goes to a black screen, where it shows those startup sequences and numbers like 2.012x000 or something like that [04:05] and does not load at all [04:08] o look Shuttleworth has dual screens and he is on this bug report also [04:08] I wonder what he does. [04:08] here is the last few lines of output while trying to run compiz on my Natty desktop: [04:08] compiz (unityshell) - Error: OpenGL 1.4+ not supported [04:08] compiz (core) - Error: InitPlugin 'unityshell' failed [04:08] compiz (core) - Error: Couldn't activate plugin 'unityshell' [04:08] Segmentation fault [04:09] google gives me nothing [04:09] i don't believe that unity is supported enough to be in the final release officially === cryptk|offline is now known as cryptk [04:22] Stryker: neither was kde4 in its first official release, and they still did it.. to me, the fact unity kinda blows, is totally expected.. but you gotta get people using it, so you can work out the bugs [04:23] it doesn't work for me at all KM0201 [04:23] !ot [04:23] #ubuntu+1 handles support for the development version of Ubuntu. Please join #ubuntu for all other Ubuntu support. Chat in #ubuntu-offtopic. [04:23] Stryker: again, its beta, and 2, its just gonna take time.. [04:23] oh geez.. omega are we gonna start this again?.. how on earth is unity off topic? [04:23] Omega, we are talking about development [04:23] Stryker: he's doing it cuz you're talking to me.. he has it out fo rme, just ignore him [04:23] This channel is for support. [04:24] it goes to a black screen, where it shows those startup sequences and numbers like 2.012x000 or something like that [04:24] my startup^ [04:24] Stryker: What ahrdware? [04:24] Stryker: like i said, its not perfect by any stretch, its just gonna take time.. [04:25] hardware* [04:25] nvidia 8600 gt video card, and a standard compaq body [04:25] are there any problems with VMware and getting compiz with unity to work? [04:25] yeah [04:26] i have heard them earlier [04:26] a friend of mine has natty on his desktop natively, working fine for him, I'm running in vmware and I can't get it to work, even went so far as to reinstall from the latest iso [04:27] vmware isn't a perfect system of course [04:28] fictive: there was a link posted earlier on getting it to work. [04:28] could it be because vmwaretools is currently for maverick and not for natty? [04:28] . but i can't remember it. [04:28] lemme find it [04:28] KM0201: could you refresh me on that? [04:28] thank you === xiambax_ is now known as xiambax [04:29] fictive: i can't find it unfortunately. [04:30] aw snap [04:30] how far back was it, can you remember? [04:31] fictive: not far, but my search-foo is strong.. :-) http://www.theopensourcerer.com/2011/04/21/ubuntu-natty-in-virtualbox-with-unity/ [04:33] KM0201: thank you! =) I will try it right now [04:33] err. before I go ahead and delete my whole guest os, any way to remove the vmwaretools? [04:33] fictive: good luck [04:35] fictive: not sure... [04:35] no worries, nothing I can't fix in a few minutes anyway =) thanks again === m4v is now known as mkv === mkv is now known as m4v [05:14] KM0201: hehe, I didn't notice, but that fix was for virtualbox :p [05:15] doesn't seem to work in vmware [05:15] fictive: i thought thats what you had.. sorry about that [05:15] (thought i said it was for vbox.. maybe i was mistaken) [05:15] no problem :) [05:15] thanks for trying anyway! [05:15] fictive: well.. vbox is a free download.. :) === m4v is now known as mkv [05:36] okay, i dont know where the issue lies with this problem. I installed openjdk and the browser plugin so i can play runescape. The game sometimes runs, sometimes freezes the browser, or is just inresponsive. I am simply having troubles logging in. [05:36] Where can i get help with this? [05:46] ok better question, where is a step by step for installing sun's java? [05:47] !crossposting [05:47] Please don't ask the same question in multiple Ubuntu channels at the same time. Many helpers are in more than one channel and it's not fair to them or the other people seeking support. [05:47] please just use the channel you're supposed to be using given your Ubuntu version :) [05:48] ok. [05:49] just trying to find help :( [05:50] i just want to play runescape and i think openjdk is buggy or something. [05:54] ok for referance, heres this : http://www.clickonf5.org/linux/how-install-sun-java-ubuntu-1004-lts/7777 [06:05] drmorphias: isn't sun-java6 in the repos?.. or are you looking for something else? [06:07] there a ppa for google gadgets or a deb amd64 ? [06:13] KM0201, it wasn't in the repos, i had to use that link to add and update my repos in ubuntu [06:13] drmorphias: weird, its in the repos for me [06:19] http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s3/moonbatty/BOSS-420-FLYER.jpg [06:19] h333heeh33hee [06:24] E: Type 'ttp://ppa.launchpad.net/nilarimogard/webupd8/ubuntu' is not known on line 2 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list.d/nilarimogard-webupd8-natty.list [06:24] E: The list of sources could not be read. [06:24] Go to the repository dialog to correct the problem. [06:24] E: _cache->open() failed, please report. [06:24] what do i do? [06:24] i can i purge that [06:24] deadhead: open the file it mentioned and change ttp to http [06:24] dont know how [06:24] deadhead: you might also be missing a 'deb' at the start of the line [06:25] how do i launch gedit [06:27] is there a way to uninstall grub [06:27] it keeps overwriting my burg bootloader that my main partition has installed [06:27] seminatty: not really, its written to the mbr.. there's some good windows freeware, to rewrite the windows mbr [06:27] seminatty: remove the grub-pc package [06:28] will that actually uninstall grub? [06:28] I can reinstall burg over grub with no problem [06:28] I just don't want natty to install grub each time they push a kernel out [06:32] seminatty, you can completely remove grub, as burg is actually grub with bling, but any grub updates will be installed unless you lock it out [06:33] nit-wit: why would any grub updates be installed if you remove the grub packages? [06:33] is there some silly dpkg rule I don't know about? [06:34] rww, may not be the case, but thought worth mentioning, as grub is a great bootloader but not known for always knowing when its wanted ie as in wubi installs. [06:35] it says i have a synaptic running yet i cant see it [06:35] nit-wit: I'm sorry, I can't parse that :( [06:35] may just be too late [06:36] is there terminal command that kills synaptic? [06:36] rww, in wubi installs grub will happily go to the mbr no questioned asked of the user [06:36] nit-wit, burg is on the /boot of another partition -- I have a separate partition for testing natty [06:36] rww, sorry wubi grub updates [06:37] nit-wit: right, but once you remove the packages, grub updates won't happen, will they? [06:37] rwww,not sure just erroring on the side of caution. [06:37] k [06:37] rww, no, that's one of the annyoing things about burg actually, is when you get a kernel update, you have to remember to run update-burg [06:38] since grub is not installed, there is no auto update [06:39] seminatty, in a couple of weeks the grub updates will slow down, I have supergrub on a thumb for just getting back into my main partition and reinstalling burg there as well. [06:39] is there a simple way to find out what touchpad driver is in use? [06:39] I want to report a bug on it [06:39] faster with supergrub [06:40] nit-wit, you mean SGD? [06:41] seminatty, sgd2 [06:42] cool [06:42] doesn't fix grub just gets you in [06:43] one thing I'm curious about though -- can't you just use the grub natty installs to get into your main partition? [06:43] since it probes the hard disk for OSes [06:43] that's how i do it [06:43] seminatty, your rewriting the mbr [06:44] if it is another OS [06:44] ... no? [06:44] i mean natty rewrites the mbr whenever it does update-grub [06:44] seminatty, thiught you said the burg was on a non natty install [06:44] hello, who can i talk to in order to get something included in natty? [06:44] yeah [06:44] that's why I keep losing it [06:45] it might be a little late for that... [06:45] seminatty, so natty does a grub update and you lose the burg in what install? [06:45] softcoder, you might want to try #ubuntu-motu [06:45] ok [06:46] nit-wit, it overwrites burg on the mbr. Burg config lives in my maverick partition. [06:46] but I can boot into the maverick partition through the grub that natty installs, since it "sees" it [06:47] seminatty, same set up as mine, I just use sgd2 to boot to maverick and run sudo burg-install dev/sda then update [06:47] */dev/sda [06:47] my question to you though is why use sgd2? [06:48] seminatty, I only know of two ways to load the mbr from a live cd or the actual install. [06:49] sgd2 is faster then booting a mav cd [06:49] nit-wit, what happens if you boot the computer with no cd in it [06:49] or usb [06:49] if natty loaded a new grub its grub [06:49] and on that grub, you can boot into your main OS [06:50] yes, I seee what your saying yeah boot into mav and change it I wasn't thinking.;( [06:51] it's cool, it just seemed like a lot of extra work :p [06:51] I got thrown by the I keep losing it, and ran with it, a litle 420 here.;) [06:52] hehehe [06:52] maybe next year i'll celebrate [06:53] * seminatty looks around to see if this channel is publicly logged [06:53] seminatty: #ubuntu+1 is publicly logged [06:58] rww, i'm now looking up all these ubuntu irc channels with interesting names that i've never heard about :p [07:03] like what :o [07:12] is it possible to enable the bottom toolbar in Ubuntu 11.04 along with the launcher ? === modulexploited is now known as guesy [07:12] my external mic (headset) has stopped functioning in natty... what packages might be at issue? [07:19] hey, anyone got any tips for saving battery life? [07:19] ubuntu seems to drain battery a lot faster than other OSes [07:34] google -> akonadi -> kontact integration is broken, as per https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=268643 - do we know of any workaround? i would really like my clock applet to remind me how busy i am so i can panic accordingly [07:34] KDE bug 268643 in Google Resource "Cannot create Akonadi calendar that will sync with Google Calendar" [Normal,New] [07:36] so weird seeing topyli talk about KDE bugs [07:36] i'm a newbie again. feels great! :) [07:37] so many First Times, creating accounts on bugzillas and such [07:38] Is it possible for default metacity controls on panel to inherit color from GTK themes just like ayatana scrollbars does. The metacity controls for themes other than ambiance and radiance does not look good in unity [07:38] unity problems live in #ubuntu+1, Saamm [07:39] which we're at, sorry :) [07:39] topyli, wut this is +1 [07:39] topyli, coffee time? xD [07:39] Saamm: this channel, never mind me :) [07:39] probably [08:00] hello people [08:02] i am not able o install any packages.. [08:02] any body canh help? [08:02] unityproblem, paste.ubuntu.com the output from sudo apt-get update and sudo apt-get upgrade [08:03] Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) [08:03] unityproblem, pastebin please, [08:04] http://pastebin.com/4d9eQ6Xn [08:05] got it? [08:05] yep [08:05] you were trying to fix this earlier iirc [08:06] any solution for that? [08:06] i waz not able to.. [08:06] can u help bazhang?? [08:07] unityproblem, check lines 17-21 in that error message and fix first [08:08] how do i do it? [08:08] ? [08:09] any idea?? [08:09] # [08:09] To view Postfix configuration [08:09] # [08:09] values, see postconf(1). [08:10] corei5@corei5:~$ postconf(1) [08:10] bash: syntax error near unexpected token `1' [08:10] corei5@corei5:~$ [08:11] unityproblem, is there any other administrator on your system? It looks like /etc/newaliases file got a numerical forward domain [08:11] /etc/aliases [08:11] no i am the only admin.. [08:12] unityproblem: postconf(1) means the manual page for postconf in section 1 of the manpages [08:12] but iam a newbie to ubuntu so i may not know if there is any... [08:12] the actual command is 'postconf' [08:12] and why are you using a development release if you're a newbie :| [08:13] coz indont wanna remain a newbie for long time..!! [08:14] rww, well, it is still weird to have a numerical domain in /etc/aliases and this breaking an update [08:14] rye: I haven't been paying attention to the actual problem, was just commenting on what postconf(1) means. [08:15] anyone here have character encoding issues with Ubuntu 11.04 ... i use UTF-8 and my locale is set to en_GB.UTF-8 yet when i do a directory listing i see filenames with strange characters in them that otherwise display fine in Ubuntu 10.10 [08:30] 11.04, updateManager's settings => http://img851.imageshack.us/i/screenshotsoftwaresourc.png/ [08:30] * bug? [08:33] looks like it [08:34] mine does the same [08:36] hi [08:36] Could s/one fill in the bug report about it? I do know how to do it. [08:38] fdffdfd, hi [08:39] geekMePl1ase, i am not your secretary [08:39] ok, I will do it [08:40] :) [08:44] i have a question, when does 11.04 come ? [08:45] !schedule [08:45] A schedule of Natty Narwhal (11.04) release milestones can be found here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NattyReleaseSchedule [08:45] fdffdfd, 4/28, but you know that [08:45] ok [08:45] now i dont [08:45]