| JanC | AlanBell: yeah, it got in late, but lots of people were beta-testing it by then (making it the default earlier would have been better though) | 00:06 |
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| JanC | although it's difficult to say if they did a systematic test of all locales ☺ | 00:11 |
| jbicha | hmm, Gnome Magnifier doesn't work for me | 00:24 |
| charlie-tca | AlanBell: thank you for the write-up on making unity work in virtualbox! That is a great article | 02:29 |
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| charlie-tca | <jibel> charlie-tca, I did a screen reader install and it's really broken. it reads frm_liveinstaller, btn_forward, ... all the symbolic names of the widgets. | 15:34 |
| maco | it was reading "go forward button" before... | 16:01 |
| maco | i havent figured out yet how to make it say "install button" but i got instructions from ev for using accerciser, so that might be tonight | 16:02 |
| maco | jibel: which daily was this on? | 16:05 |
| charlie-tca | today | 16:09 |
| charlie-tca | We are smoke testing the final candidates | 16:09 |
| maco | thats a regression from a week ago | 16:21 |
| charlie-tca | We can't really win, huh? | 16:23 |
| Pendulum | :( | 16:23 |
| maco | im checking the revision history | 16:24 |
| charlie-tca | jibel made another comment - | 16:24 |
| charlie-tca | <jibel> charlie-tca, technically that's because ubiquity routinely set the atk_name of the widget to the value taken from the glade file. I think that's used to test ubiquity and be independant of the language but that breaks the a11y devices. | 16:24 |
| charlie-tca | does that help? | 16:24 |
| jibel | maco, I'm testing again I tested the right build. | 16:25 |
| charlie-tca | Thanks, jibel | 16:26 |
| charlie-tca | We do keep trying ... | 16:26 |
| jibel | s/again/again to ensure/ | 16:26 |
| Pendulum | is the release team aware of the issues? | 16:27 |
| maco | i dont know. i dont see any changes that look relevant | 16:27 |
| maco | i dont think there's a chance of this being good in natty. too close to release :-/ | 16:28 |
| Pendulum | if we have 2 installers in a row borked (since Maverick is borked), it is not good :-/ | 16:29 |
| maco | jibel: when you were doing it, do you remember what the partition page was like? was that also just widget names? | 16:29 |
| Pendulum | I'm just bringing up that it might be a good time to poke skaet since they're doing the release meeting right now | 16:30 |
| maco | because as of the 19th or 20th, that shouldve read labels next to the radio buttons | 16:30 |
| jibel | maco, that's what I'm checking, if it's ubiquity 2.6.5 or earlier. I'm testing so many image that I could have done a mistake. I'm double-checking. | 16:30 |
| maco | ok | 16:30 |
| maco | 2.6.6 is the one where the radio buttons should be correct | 16:31 |
| charlie-tca | yes, release team is aware | 16:32 |
| maco | (or maybe 2.6.7? i dont think "import atk" is actually needed since im pretty sure its automatic with gtk, but if it is...then 2.6.7 is the one that has the "import atk" line) | 16:32 |
| charlie-tca | hm, is it possible for the blind user to do the install with the names being given? | 16:34 |
| charlie-tca | Last orca install I did, I picked auto-login, and the screen-reader started with the desktop. It goes right to classic-desktop now. | 16:34 |
| jibel | maco, I confirm the problem with ubiquity 2.6.9 | 16:48 |
| jibel | first there is bug 749702 | 16:49 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 749702 in ubiquity ""Try Ubuntu" screen-reads as "Try $RELEASE"" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/749702 | 16:49 |
| jibel | then the window name of ubiquity reads live_installer | 16:49 |
| maco | i wonder if this is related to the translation changes they made the last few days... | 16:50 |
| jibel | maco, and all the buttons/radio buttons/checkbox reads the label then a smybolic name like | 16:50 |
| maco | yeah i know they read the symbolic name after. i couldnt make it stop doing that. but the label being read *at all* is the important bit | 16:50 |
| jibel | replace_partition, reuse_partition, custom_partition, timezone_city_entry, ... | 16:50 |
| maco | there were changes to translation templates the last few days. i wonder if thats why variables are being read now | 16:50 |
| jibel | maco, another thing, this the "install now" button reads forward | 16:51 |
| maco | yes i know that | 16:52 |
| maco | thats the one i saw saying above i was attempting to sort | 16:52 |
| jibel | maco, ok so nothing new :-) | 16:53 |
| maco | s/saw/was/ | 16:53 |
| jibel | maco, the weird name after the label is caused by this code in ubiquity/frontend/gtk_ui.py | 16:57 |
| jibel | widget.set_name(name) | 16:57 |
| jibel | atk_desc = widget.get_accessible() | 16:57 |
| jibel | atk_desc.set_name(name) | 16:57 |
| jibel | it calls it routinely and set the id of the object from the glade file to the atk name | 16:57 |
| maco | i wondered what that was doing... | 16:59 |
| maco | that was added in december | 17:00 |
| maco | http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-installer/ubiquity/trunk/revision/4461 | 17:00 |
| maco | jibel: im guessing ev thought that was better-than-nothing | 17:36 |
| maco | if we remove it, it'd probably stop the say-label-then-var thing, but itd probably also stop having anything said *at all* for most stuff :-/ | 17:37 |
| AlanBell | bug 769104 | 18:49 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 769104 in onboard "default layout always loaded due to gconf key handling error" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/769104 | 18:49 |
| AlanBell | I will fix that one, but not going to jump up and down and stamp my feet to get it into Natty pre-release | 18:50 |
| JanC | it can go in the day after release... | 19:00 |
| JanC | or so | 19:00 |
| JanC | or next week if that's still allowed | 19:00 |
| maco | could get a 0-day sru | 19:04 |
| AlanBell | yeah, got to fix it first | 19:06 |
| AlanBell | and it will expose the fact that I didn't recolour the "Full" keyboard layout so I have to do that too | 19:09 |
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| AlanBell | and the Full-Dark layout which is white text on dark keycaps | 20:18 |
| AlanBell | and it is all going to be a 0day SRU now | 20:57 |
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| AlanBell | http://people.ubuntu.com/~alanbell/onboardfulldark.png is the reversed colour layout as it stands today | 23:16 |
| AlanBell | although a bug prevents it from actually being available | 23:16 |
| AlanBell | curious what charlie-tca and others think of it | 23:16 |
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