/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2011/04/22/#ubuntu-bd.txt

=== bare|sleep is now known as Tanvir
=== tuhin is now known as tuhin-brb10
=== tuhin-brb10 is now known as tuhin
=== tuhin is now known as tuhin-brb
=== tuhin-brb is now known as tuhin
* tarunno poking Tanvir 17:56
* tuhin poking tarunno 18:07
tarunnotuhin, hi18:07
tuhinhow are u18:07
tuhinis there any namaz timer for ubuntu?18:07
tuhini found 3 but not sure which is good18:09
tarunnono I never tried those18:09
tarunnobut I think the one comes with Ubuntu Muslim Edition should be good enough18:10
tuhinthat distro is huge18:10
tuhinwho owns http://www.linux.org.bd??18:13
tarunnoBLUA18:23
tarunnoThe sabily team is very ative one18:28
tarunnoUbuntu 11.04 is realising at 28th April18:28
tarunnoand Sabily 11.04 is releasing at 5 May18:28
tarunnoimpressive18:28
tuhinback, what did i miss?18:30
tarunnoThe Ubuntu ME is now called Sabily18:30
tarunnoand their team is one of the very active one18:31
tarunnoUbuntu 11.04 is releasing at 28th April18:31
tarunnoand they are releasing Sabily 11.04 at 5th May18:31
tarunnoimpressive, isn't it?18:31
tarunnoFirefox has a addon18:33
tarunnofor daily prayer time18:34
tarunnoand the soft Sabily use for Prayer alert is Minbar18:35
tuhinsabily is huge distro :|18:35
tuhinok installing minbar18:35
tuhini heard ubuntu 11.04 would NOT be LTS ?18:36
tarunnonope18:36
tarunno12.04 will be18:36
tarunnoLTS comes in every 2 years18:36
tarunnothat is Every fourth release is LTS18:37
tuhini thought every .04 version is LTS 18:37
tuhinso 12.04 in april'2012. my Mint10 is supported till that same time18:38
tarunnono18:38
tarunnoI am not sure about Mint18:39
tuhinMint10 is based on maverick ubuntu 10.1018:39
tarunnobut a regular Ubuntu Distro has a official support time of 2 years 18:39
tuhinwhat will happen if i try to install packages that i DLed for ubuntu10.10  in ubuntu 11.04 or later?18:40
tarunnoand LTS has 5 years18:41
tarunnoThat is the official schedule18:41
tuhini have downloaded 2.5GBs of packages in 4-5 month, dont want to DL them again later when i upgrade to latest linux18:41
tarunnowell, many of the packages actually don't update or maintain a update schedule with Ubuntu18:47
tarunnoso, you can install them18:47
tuhinok18:47
tarunnoand if there any software have another updated version available in repo 18:47
tarunnothen you can update just those software with update manager later18:48
tuhinthats  my problem18:48
tarunnoWe were thinking about making a offiline DVD repo 18:48
tuhini dont like updating too much18:48
tuhinthey release updates evday18:48
tuhinand it will take all my time  updating18:48
tarunnowith mostly used software18:49
tuhinfor bd users?18:49
tarunnobut later the project git stucked18:49
tarunnoyes18:49
tarunnofor BD users18:49
tarunnowell, in Update there are diff. sorts of updates18:49
tuhinthe linux event of last month gave dvd with popular software18:50
tuhinthey sold for 30 or maybe 50 tk18:50
tarunnonope that was a diff case18:50
tarunnothat is a customized distro comes with some software preinstalled18:50
tuhinkazi  attended that event and bought the dvd18:50
tarunnoand we thought about repo on;y18:51
tuhinu used that dvd?18:51
tuhini didn't , i heard from kazi18:51
tarunnome? you know what, that cusmized dvd idea was another brain child of mine18:51
tuhin:| and u were not invited there?18:51
tarunnoI share that idea with someone18:52
tarunnoand later he suddenly became the saviour 18:52
tuhini bought 1 Ankur Bangla Linux couple years ago , it was very good18:52
tarunnoha ha ha 18:52
tarunnono, they reached an invitation to me18:53
tuhinvery bad18:53
tarunnoand I didn't joined by my own choice18:53
tuhinwhy ? u were busy?18:53
tarunnoI wouldn't be like used anymore18:54
tuhinic18:54
tarunnoyea18:54
tuhinlooks like u got hurt 18:54
tarunnoyes I do18:54
tuhinhow many leaders went seperate way?18:55
tarunnothe main problem is I have misurably failed what I tried to do18:55
tarunnoI tried to unite people under one roof18:56
tuhinthats what should be done18:56
tarunnoand suddenly I found myself in a position od villain 18:56
tuhin:|18:56
tarunnosome strated thinking I am kind of spy of others18:56
tarunnoA hates B, B hates both A and C, C doesn't talk much18:57
tarunnoand when I managed to build a good relationship with all A, B and C18:57
tarunnoA thinks, why the hell is he hang out with B too much? 18:58
tarunnoB thinks, okey smarty pants I got your plan18:58
tuhinlol18:58
tuhinso all got divided in 4 camps?18:59
tuhinA, B, C and u in D 18:59
tarunnonow bring me some inside info from A and C then I will believe you18:59
tarunnome? D? nope19:00
tuhinlol it sounds like civil war19:00
tarunnoI am ABC19:00
tuhinu wanted to a+b+c = Linux19:00
tarunnoworse than a civil war19:00
tarunnoit called Community Politics19:00
tuhinwhat kind of plan they tried to get of others....19:00
tarunnoand many more people like me abandoned community just for thi19:01
tarunnothis19:01
tuhinic19:01
tarunnobut I am bad penny19:01
tuhinso there is 2 or 3 community now?19:01
tarunnoI comes and goes, back and forth19:02
tarunnoumm, no actually I rather not to prefer 'community' 19:02
tuhinok how many camp there now?19:02
tarunnoyou can call it 2 ir 3 leaders and their deciples 19:02
tarunnothe general members got biasd and scattered19:03
tuhinwhere is their websites?19:03
tarunnothey are so confuse to whom to believe19:03
tarunnohave you ever heard about bdlug?19:04
tuhinyes19:04
tarunnothey went virtually dead19:04
tuhini visited their site long time ago i think19:04
tarunnothen BLUA came 19:04
tarunnomost of the seriors who started BLUA are gone19:05
tuhinhm19:05
tarunnorussell john passively maintained the website19:05
tarunnoso, that name exsited 19:06
tarunnothen I came19:06
tarunnoI attened Ubuntu Release partied19:06
tarunnoparties19:06
tarunnoand started using it19:07
tarunnothen find myself as a troubleshooter19:07
tarunnothen again Ubuntu-BD and BLUA went into a coma 19:07
tuhinbdlug is there , it looks like not-newbie-friendly19:07
tarunnothey have a mailing list, but not very active19:08
tuhindivided all failed19:08
tarunnoWhen Ubuntu-BD went in coma and I visited Shahriar, who is known as Ashabadi 19:08
tarunnoand found him very very depressed 19:09
tarunnohe is a very dearly to mine19:09
tarunnohis father was just passed away19:09
tarunnoso, I thought why not try to do something to cheer him up19:10
tuhinnever saw him19:10
tarunnoand the idea of Bontu Mintur Adda born19:10
tarunnowhich eventually turned into a huge hit19:10
tuhinso many ups and downs19:11
tarunnoI rather say, the depressed Shariar was the inspiration behind that event19:11
tarunnoyeah19:11
tuhinbdlug mailing list seems inactive from 200719:12
tarunnowhen we were working for Bontu Mintur Adda in the field19:12
tarunnomany people suddenly poped out with tons of ideas, like do this and do that 19:12
tarunnoand some of them were pretty lame19:13
tarunnoWe were working in the field and we knew the situation better19:13
tuhini saw the event pics in mint-bd site19:14
tarunnoand as I took the responsibility of that event, I felt I should have the authority too19:14
tuhinit seemed well organized 19:14
tarunnobecause, it that event failed 19:14
tarunnowveryone was gonna say 'you' have failed it19:15
tarunnoyou were incharge19:15
tuhinyes with authority comes big responsibilities 19:15
tarunnoand those who were bombarding with tons of ideas would filped overnight19:15
tarunnowould wash their hand like 'it was just a suggestion' type of things19:16
tarunnoso, I did took some of their ideas what was achivable and left many of them19:17
tarunnothat made that mad19:17
tuhinso what idea u disagreed to implement?19:17
tarunnoI don't know, may be jalousy 19:17
tarunnoand I found a strange tone in their voice19:18
tarunnothat I am so autocratic, so rigid, don't care about other's idea etc etc19:18
tarunnoso, I silently quit the scene19:19
tarunnowhen that event got hit19:19
tarunnohuge people got interested 19:19
tarunnoBULA upgrade their website19:19
tarunnoand people was like crazy19:19
tarunnothat was a very good time19:20
tarunnobut what happened then19:20
tarunnothat A B C fell apart19:20
tarunnoand within 10 months we are in the same point19:20
tarunnoI rather say, worse than before19:21
tarunnoand again, I am villain19:21
tarunnonow my fault is I abandon the community when it needed mr19:21
tarunnome*19:21
tarunnoha ha ha ha 19:21
tarunnoIf I do something, I am autocratic, and if I don't do anything, I am irresponsible 19:23
tuhin_back , what did i miss?19:23
tarunnohow would I know?19:23
tuhin_<tarunno> that I am so autocratic, so rigid, don't care about other's idea etc etc19:23
tuhin_<tuhin> it sounds like বিরোধীদল mentality19:23
tuhin_those r the last 2 lines i got/sent19:23
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tarunno<tarunno> that I am so autocratic, so rigid, don't care about other's idea etc etc19:24
tarunno<tarunno> so, I silently quit the scene19:24
tarunno<tarunno> when that event got hit19:24
tarunno<tarunno> huge people got interested 19:24
tarunno<tarunno> BULA upgrade their website19:24
tarunno<tarunno> and people was like crazy19:24
tarunno<tarunno> that was a very good time19:24
tarunno<tarunno> but what happened then19:24
tarunno<tarunno> that A B C fell apart19:24
tarunno<tarunno> and within 10 months we are in the same point19:24
tarunno<tarunno> I rather say, worse than before19:24
tarunno<tarunno> and again, I am villain19:24
tarunno<tarunno> now my fault is I abandon the community when it needed mr19:24
tarunno<tarunno> me*19:24
tarunno<tarunno> ha ha ha ha 19:24
tarunno<tarunno> If I do something, I am autocratic, and if I don't do anything, I am irresponsible 19:24
tuhinhmm 19:24
tuhinpeople cant live together in peace it seems19:25
tuhinpeople in bd*b19:25
tuhinthats why there is no prominent linux forum/community19:25
tuhini think i saw u in projanmo ?19:26
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tarunnoyou did19:37
tuhinok ,19:39
tuhini dont make account i only search and read what others have posted 19:39
tarunno:)19:40
tuhinprojanmo is becoming new linux community?19:41
tuhinthat site's visitors are good mannered19:41
tuhinand friendly19:41
tarunnoit's not new, actually it's old one19:44
tarunnoProjanmo and Amaderprojukti 19:44
tarunnothis two forum was the prime place for BD linux lovers19:44
tarunnoin AP 19:44
tuhini never looked for Bangla sites actually , Kazi introduced me 19:44
tarunnowe had started several projects 19:45
tarunnolike http://forum.amaderprojukti.com/ubuntuindex19:45
tarunnoand http://forum.amaderprojukti.com/ubuntucd19:45
tarunnocorrection http://forum.amaderprojukti.com/ubuntucds19:46
tuhinnice idea19:47
tuhinস্ট্যাটাস: অনুগ্রহপূর্বক আমাকে 'techie', 'geek', 'savvy', 'nerd', 'IT expert', 'Linux expert' ইত্যাদি তৈল মর্দিত সম্বোধন করা থেকে বিরত থাকুন19:48
tuhinLOL19:48
tarunnou thr?19:50
tuhinyes19:50
tuhindid i miss any question?19:51
tuhini m looking around  http://forum.amaderprojukti.com/19:51
tarunnono19:52
tarunnohttps://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-bd/2010-July/006141.html19:53
tarunnohere is the mailing list thread explaining the primary idea of Bontu Mintur Adda19:54
tuhini m reading19:54
tuhinany release party planned for ubuntu 11.04?19:57
tuhini liked the T-shirt19:58
tuhinthe black color look lice in those pics19:58
tuhinok finished reading20:04
tarunnono plans declared yet20:05
tarunnook, I need to leave now20:06
tarunnotalk to you later20:06
tarunnogoodnight20:06
tuhinbye20:07
tuhingood night20:07

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