| === bare|sleep is now known as Tanvir | ||
| === tuhin is now known as tuhin-brb10 | ||
| === tuhin-brb10 is now known as tuhin | ||
| === tuhin is now known as tuhin-brb | ||
| === tuhin-brb is now known as tuhin | ||
| * tarunno poking Tanvir | 17:56 | |
| * tuhin poking tarunno | 18:07 | |
| tarunno | tuhin, hi | 18:07 |
|---|---|---|
| tuhin | how are u | 18:07 |
| tuhin | is there any namaz timer for ubuntu? | 18:07 |
| tuhin | i found 3 but not sure which is good | 18:09 |
| tarunno | no I never tried those | 18:09 |
| tarunno | but I think the one comes with Ubuntu Muslim Edition should be good enough | 18:10 |
| tuhin | that distro is huge | 18:10 |
| tuhin | who owns http://www.linux.org.bd?? | 18:13 |
| tarunno | BLUA | 18:23 |
| tarunno | The sabily team is very ative one | 18:28 |
| tarunno | Ubuntu 11.04 is realising at 28th April | 18:28 |
| tarunno | and Sabily 11.04 is releasing at 5 May | 18:28 |
| tarunno | impressive | 18:28 |
| tuhin | back, what did i miss? | 18:30 |
| tarunno | The Ubuntu ME is now called Sabily | 18:30 |
| tarunno | and their team is one of the very active one | 18:31 |
| tarunno | Ubuntu 11.04 is releasing at 28th April | 18:31 |
| tarunno | and they are releasing Sabily 11.04 at 5th May | 18:31 |
| tarunno | impressive, isn't it? | 18:31 |
| tarunno | Firefox has a addon | 18:33 |
| tarunno | for daily prayer time | 18:34 |
| tarunno | and the soft Sabily use for Prayer alert is Minbar | 18:35 |
| tuhin | sabily is huge distro :| | 18:35 |
| tuhin | ok installing minbar | 18:35 |
| tuhin | i heard ubuntu 11.04 would NOT be LTS ? | 18:36 |
| tarunno | nope | 18:36 |
| tarunno | 12.04 will be | 18:36 |
| tarunno | LTS comes in every 2 years | 18:36 |
| tarunno | that is Every fourth release is LTS | 18:37 |
| tuhin | i thought every .04 version is LTS | 18:37 |
| tuhin | so 12.04 in april'2012. my Mint10 is supported till that same time | 18:38 |
| tarunno | no | 18:38 |
| tarunno | I am not sure about Mint | 18:39 |
| tuhin | Mint10 is based on maverick ubuntu 10.10 | 18:39 |
| tarunno | but a regular Ubuntu Distro has a official support time of 2 years | 18:39 |
| tuhin | what will happen if i try to install packages that i DLed for ubuntu10.10 in ubuntu 11.04 or later? | 18:40 |
| tarunno | and LTS has 5 years | 18:41 |
| tarunno | That is the official schedule | 18:41 |
| tuhin | i have downloaded 2.5GBs of packages in 4-5 month, dont want to DL them again later when i upgrade to latest linux | 18:41 |
| tarunno | well, many of the packages actually don't update or maintain a update schedule with Ubuntu | 18:47 |
| tarunno | so, you can install them | 18:47 |
| tuhin | ok | 18:47 |
| tarunno | and if there any software have another updated version available in repo | 18:47 |
| tarunno | then you can update just those software with update manager later | 18:48 |
| tuhin | thats my problem | 18:48 |
| tarunno | We were thinking about making a offiline DVD repo | 18:48 |
| tuhin | i dont like updating too much | 18:48 |
| tuhin | they release updates evday | 18:48 |
| tuhin | and it will take all my time updating | 18:48 |
| tarunno | with mostly used software | 18:49 |
| tuhin | for bd users? | 18:49 |
| tarunno | but later the project git stucked | 18:49 |
| tarunno | yes | 18:49 |
| tarunno | for BD users | 18:49 |
| tarunno | well, in Update there are diff. sorts of updates | 18:49 |
| tuhin | the linux event of last month gave dvd with popular software | 18:50 |
| tuhin | they sold for 30 or maybe 50 tk | 18:50 |
| tarunno | nope that was a diff case | 18:50 |
| tarunno | that is a customized distro comes with some software preinstalled | 18:50 |
| tuhin | kazi attended that event and bought the dvd | 18:50 |
| tarunno | and we thought about repo on;y | 18:51 |
| tuhin | u used that dvd? | 18:51 |
| tuhin | i didn't , i heard from kazi | 18:51 |
| tarunno | me? you know what, that cusmized dvd idea was another brain child of mine | 18:51 |
| tuhin | :| and u were not invited there? | 18:51 |
| tarunno | I share that idea with someone | 18:52 |
| tarunno | and later he suddenly became the saviour | 18:52 |
| tuhin | i bought 1 Ankur Bangla Linux couple years ago , it was very good | 18:52 |
| tarunno | ha ha ha | 18:52 |
| tarunno | no, they reached an invitation to me | 18:53 |
| tuhin | very bad | 18:53 |
| tarunno | and I didn't joined by my own choice | 18:53 |
| tuhin | why ? u were busy? | 18:53 |
| tarunno | I wouldn't be like used anymore | 18:54 |
| tuhin | ic | 18:54 |
| tarunno | yea | 18:54 |
| tuhin | looks like u got hurt | 18:54 |
| tarunno | yes I do | 18:54 |
| tuhin | how many leaders went seperate way? | 18:55 |
| tarunno | the main problem is I have misurably failed what I tried to do | 18:55 |
| tarunno | I tried to unite people under one roof | 18:56 |
| tuhin | thats what should be done | 18:56 |
| tarunno | and suddenly I found myself in a position od villain | 18:56 |
| tuhin | :| | 18:56 |
| tarunno | some strated thinking I am kind of spy of others | 18:56 |
| tarunno | A hates B, B hates both A and C, C doesn't talk much | 18:57 |
| tarunno | and when I managed to build a good relationship with all A, B and C | 18:57 |
| tarunno | A thinks, why the hell is he hang out with B too much? | 18:58 |
| tarunno | B thinks, okey smarty pants I got your plan | 18:58 |
| tuhin | lol | 18:58 |
| tuhin | so all got divided in 4 camps? | 18:59 |
| tuhin | A, B, C and u in D | 18:59 |
| tarunno | now bring me some inside info from A and C then I will believe you | 18:59 |
| tarunno | me? D? nope | 19:00 |
| tuhin | lol it sounds like civil war | 19:00 |
| tarunno | I am ABC | 19:00 |
| tuhin | u wanted to a+b+c = Linux | 19:00 |
| tarunno | worse than a civil war | 19:00 |
| tarunno | it called Community Politics | 19:00 |
| tuhin | what kind of plan they tried to get of others.... | 19:00 |
| tarunno | and many more people like me abandoned community just for thi | 19:01 |
| tarunno | this | 19:01 |
| tuhin | ic | 19:01 |
| tarunno | but I am bad penny | 19:01 |
| tuhin | so there is 2 or 3 community now? | 19:01 |
| tarunno | I comes and goes, back and forth | 19:02 |
| tarunno | umm, no actually I rather not to prefer 'community' | 19:02 |
| tuhin | ok how many camp there now? | 19:02 |
| tarunno | you can call it 2 ir 3 leaders and their deciples | 19:02 |
| tarunno | the general members got biasd and scattered | 19:03 |
| tuhin | where is their websites? | 19:03 |
| tarunno | they are so confuse to whom to believe | 19:03 |
| tarunno | have you ever heard about bdlug? | 19:04 |
| tuhin | yes | 19:04 |
| tarunno | they went virtually dead | 19:04 |
| tuhin | i visited their site long time ago i think | 19:04 |
| tarunno | then BLUA came | 19:04 |
| tarunno | most of the seriors who started BLUA are gone | 19:05 |
| tuhin | hm | 19:05 |
| tarunno | russell john passively maintained the website | 19:05 |
| tarunno | so, that name exsited | 19:06 |
| tarunno | then I came | 19:06 |
| tarunno | I attened Ubuntu Release partied | 19:06 |
| tarunno | parties | 19:06 |
| tarunno | and started using it | 19:07 |
| tarunno | then find myself as a troubleshooter | 19:07 |
| tarunno | then again Ubuntu-BD and BLUA went into a coma | 19:07 |
| tuhin | bdlug is there , it looks like not-newbie-friendly | 19:07 |
| tarunno | they have a mailing list, but not very active | 19:08 |
| tuhin | divided all failed | 19:08 |
| tarunno | When Ubuntu-BD went in coma and I visited Shahriar, who is known as Ashabadi | 19:08 |
| tarunno | and found him very very depressed | 19:09 |
| tarunno | he is a very dearly to mine | 19:09 |
| tarunno | his father was just passed away | 19:09 |
| tarunno | so, I thought why not try to do something to cheer him up | 19:10 |
| tuhin | never saw him | 19:10 |
| tarunno | and the idea of Bontu Mintur Adda born | 19:10 |
| tarunno | which eventually turned into a huge hit | 19:10 |
| tuhin | so many ups and downs | 19:11 |
| tarunno | I rather say, the depressed Shariar was the inspiration behind that event | 19:11 |
| tarunno | yeah | 19:11 |
| tuhin | bdlug mailing list seems inactive from 2007 | 19:12 |
| tarunno | when we were working for Bontu Mintur Adda in the field | 19:12 |
| tarunno | many people suddenly poped out with tons of ideas, like do this and do that | 19:12 |
| tarunno | and some of them were pretty lame | 19:13 |
| tarunno | We were working in the field and we knew the situation better | 19:13 |
| tuhin | i saw the event pics in mint-bd site | 19:14 |
| tarunno | and as I took the responsibility of that event, I felt I should have the authority too | 19:14 |
| tuhin | it seemed well organized | 19:14 |
| tarunno | because, it that event failed | 19:14 |
| tarunno | wveryone was gonna say 'you' have failed it | 19:15 |
| tarunno | you were incharge | 19:15 |
| tuhin | yes with authority comes big responsibilities | 19:15 |
| tarunno | and those who were bombarding with tons of ideas would filped overnight | 19:15 |
| tarunno | would wash their hand like 'it was just a suggestion' type of things | 19:16 |
| tarunno | so, I did took some of their ideas what was achivable and left many of them | 19:17 |
| tarunno | that made that mad | 19:17 |
| tuhin | so what idea u disagreed to implement? | 19:17 |
| tarunno | I don't know, may be jalousy | 19:17 |
| tarunno | and I found a strange tone in their voice | 19:18 |
| tarunno | that I am so autocratic, so rigid, don't care about other's idea etc etc | 19:18 |
| tarunno | so, I silently quit the scene | 19:19 |
| tarunno | when that event got hit | 19:19 |
| tarunno | huge people got interested | 19:19 |
| tarunno | BULA upgrade their website | 19:19 |
| tarunno | and people was like crazy | 19:19 |
| tarunno | that was a very good time | 19:20 |
| tarunno | but what happened then | 19:20 |
| tarunno | that A B C fell apart | 19:20 |
| tarunno | and within 10 months we are in the same point | 19:20 |
| tarunno | I rather say, worse than before | 19:21 |
| tarunno | and again, I am villain | 19:21 |
| tarunno | now my fault is I abandon the community when it needed mr | 19:21 |
| tarunno | me* | 19:21 |
| tarunno | ha ha ha ha | 19:21 |
| tarunno | If I do something, I am autocratic, and if I don't do anything, I am irresponsible | 19:23 |
| tuhin_ | back , what did i miss? | 19:23 |
| tarunno | how would I know? | 19:23 |
| tuhin_ | <tarunno> that I am so autocratic, so rigid, don't care about other's idea etc etc | 19:23 |
| tuhin_ | <tuhin> it sounds like বিরোধীদল mentality | 19:23 |
| tuhin_ | those r the last 2 lines i got/sent | 19:23 |
| === tuhin_ is now known as tuhin | ||
| tarunno | <tarunno> that I am so autocratic, so rigid, don't care about other's idea etc etc | 19:24 |
| tarunno | <tarunno> so, I silently quit the scene | 19:24 |
| tarunno | <tarunno> when that event got hit | 19:24 |
| tarunno | <tarunno> huge people got interested | 19:24 |
| tarunno | <tarunno> BULA upgrade their website | 19:24 |
| tarunno | <tarunno> and people was like crazy | 19:24 |
| tarunno | <tarunno> that was a very good time | 19:24 |
| tarunno | <tarunno> but what happened then | 19:24 |
| tarunno | <tarunno> that A B C fell apart | 19:24 |
| tarunno | <tarunno> and within 10 months we are in the same point | 19:24 |
| tarunno | <tarunno> I rather say, worse than before | 19:24 |
| tarunno | <tarunno> and again, I am villain | 19:24 |
| tarunno | <tarunno> now my fault is I abandon the community when it needed mr | 19:24 |
| tarunno | <tarunno> me* | 19:24 |
| tarunno | <tarunno> ha ha ha ha | 19:24 |
| tarunno | <tarunno> If I do something, I am autocratic, and if I don't do anything, I am irresponsible | 19:24 |
| tuhin | hmm | 19:24 |
| tuhin | people cant live together in peace it seems | 19:25 |
| tuhin | people in bd*b | 19:25 |
| tuhin | thats why there is no prominent linux forum/community | 19:25 |
| tuhin | i think i saw u in projanmo ? | 19:26 |
| === Tanvir is now known as bare|sleep | ||
| tarunno | you did | 19:37 |
| tuhin | ok , | 19:39 |
| tuhin | i dont make account i only search and read what others have posted | 19:39 |
| tarunno | :) | 19:40 |
| tuhin | projanmo is becoming new linux community? | 19:41 |
| tuhin | that site's visitors are good mannered | 19:41 |
| tuhin | and friendly | 19:41 |
| tarunno | it's not new, actually it's old one | 19:44 |
| tarunno | Projanmo and Amaderprojukti | 19:44 |
| tarunno | this two forum was the prime place for BD linux lovers | 19:44 |
| tarunno | in AP | 19:44 |
| tuhin | i never looked for Bangla sites actually , Kazi introduced me | 19:44 |
| tarunno | we had started several projects | 19:45 |
| tarunno | like http://forum.amaderprojukti.com/ubuntuindex | 19:45 |
| tarunno | and http://forum.amaderprojukti.com/ubuntucd | 19:45 |
| tarunno | correction http://forum.amaderprojukti.com/ubuntucds | 19:46 |
| tuhin | nice idea | 19:47 |
| tuhin | স্ট্যাটাস: অনুগ্রহপূর্বক আমাকে 'techie', 'geek', 'savvy', 'nerd', 'IT expert', 'Linux expert' ইত্যাদি তৈল মর্দিত সম্বোধন করা থেকে বিরত থাকুন | 19:48 |
| tuhin | LOL | 19:48 |
| tarunno | u thr? | 19:50 |
| tuhin | yes | 19:50 |
| tuhin | did i miss any question? | 19:51 |
| tuhin | i m looking around http://forum.amaderprojukti.com/ | 19:51 |
| tarunno | no | 19:52 |
| tarunno | https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-bd/2010-July/006141.html | 19:53 |
| tarunno | here is the mailing list thread explaining the primary idea of Bontu Mintur Adda | 19:54 |
| tuhin | i m reading | 19:54 |
| tuhin | any release party planned for ubuntu 11.04? | 19:57 |
| tuhin | i liked the T-shirt | 19:58 |
| tuhin | the black color look lice in those pics | 19:58 |
| tuhin | ok finished reading | 20:04 |
| tarunno | no plans declared yet | 20:05 |
| tarunno | ok, I need to leave now | 20:06 |
| tarunno | talk to you later | 20:06 |
| tarunno | goodnight | 20:06 |
| tuhin | bye | 20:07 |
| tuhin | good night | 20:07 |
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