[01:33] <juzzy_> hi, my ati card under ubuntu is playing up, something fierce, i have multiple drivers involved, how can i put it back to an original state?
[01:36] <holstein> juzzy_: proprietary drivers?
[01:36] <holstein> theres usually a readme and/or an uninstall script
[01:46] <juzzy_> no, im not sure actually
[01:47] <holstein> juzzy_: i would try and trace back what you've installed
[01:47] <holstein> and one by one
[01:47] <holstein> see if you have uninstall options
[01:47] <holstein> depeding on where and how you installed
[01:50] <holstein> if its something you got from the repos, you should be able to unistall
[05:31] <carlosf001> hello to all guys here,  someone to can help me
[05:32] <carlosf001> i have amsn   but  i receive a msg that i need  something called  farsight  to can make a meeting with cam
[05:32] <carlosf001> any help  will be wellcome
[05:35] <philipballew> is there someoneis there someone who can help me get me get my sd card reader working? its a weird one
[05:57] <holstein> philipballew: sdcard reader?
[05:57] <holstein> nm, i see
[05:57] <holstein> do you see it in lspci?
[05:57] <holstein> what device is it?
[05:58] <philipballew> i do and lspci shows its driver is in use by the kernal
[05:58] <philipballew> shouls i give my output
[05:58] <holstein> philipballew: i assume you have tried several cards?
[05:58] <holstein> a known good card would be ideal
[05:58] <philipballew> yes i have. and i also found someone with my same computer with windows and my card works
[05:59] <holstein> philipballew: cool
[05:59] <holstein> thats narrowing it down then
[05:59] <holstein> philipballew: ubuntu 10.10?
[06:00] <philipballew> yes Linux philip-laptop 2.6.35-28-generic #50+kamal~mjgbacklight3-Ubuntu SMP Mon Mar 21 21:25:28 UTC 2011 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[06:00] <holstein> philipballew: is this a new install?
[06:00] <holstein> did it ever work?
[06:00] <holstein> *with linux
[06:01] <philipballew> never.
[06:01] <philipballew> i think this might fix it but i havent tried it
[06:01] <holstein> philipballew: you are up to date?
[06:01] <philipballew> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/605043
[06:01] <holstein> with package updates
[06:01] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 605043 in linux "Ubuntu 10.04 64 bit on Dell Lattitude E6410: Failed to read MMC card" [Undecided,Confirmed]
[06:01] <philipballew> yes i am
[06:01] <philipballew> even 11.04 beta 2 doesnt
[06:02] <holstein> drag... i was going to ask if you would try that kernel
[06:03] <holstein> philipballew: your talking about https://launchpadlibrarian.net/53259856/latitude-e6510-cardreader.conf ?
[06:03] <philipballew> i believe step 7 on the link i gave is a fix
[06:03] <philipballew> not sure
[06:04] <holstein> yeah, id try that
[06:04] <holstein> you can always undo it
[06:04] <holstein> with stuff like that
[06:04] <philipballew> lets see how this works
[06:04] <holstein> either backup the original if your editing
[06:04] <holstein> or comment so you know what you did
[06:04] <holstein> and know how to undo the changes from a live CD
[06:04] <holstein> just incase
[06:05] <holstein> i dont think that will cause much trouble though
[06:05] <holstein> looks like a fix to me :)
[06:11] <philipballew> when it says mmod sdhci_pci and sdhci do i do both " mmod sdhci_pci" then "mmod sdhci"
[06:13] <holstein> philipballew: i was looking at that
[06:13] <holstein> and having a hard time deciding
[06:13] <philipballew> me to...
[06:14] <ilovebees> OMG I Love Bees
[06:16] <holstein> philipballew: i was thinking it would be persisent
[06:16] <holstein> if you added that .conf
[06:16] <holstein> and restarted
[06:16] <holstein> right?
[08:29] <virgo> when i execute Ubuntu Software Center it closes itself after few seconds without showing me any window
[08:29] <virgo> yesterday it was working
[11:49] <halpbatman> anyone home?
[11:52] <halpbatman> I need advice.. I just landed a desktop with Intel core i7 and nvidia GTX 470 6gb ram... and I'm planning on dual booting win7 64 and ubuntu... should I go with 10.04 LTS or 10.10?
[12:02] <AJH101> Hi anyone tried the new ESET av for linux yet?
[12:02] <nlsthzn-work> halpbatman: I guess that will depend on your needs... If you are looking for stable |I would go for the LTS... if you are looking for bleeding edge I would wait a week for 11.04...
[12:03] <nlsthzn-work> AJH101: no thanks... I don't want to pay for something I don't need :p
[12:04] <AJH101> i know what you mean - but surely it is a matter of time til someone develops a real threat?
[12:05] <halpbatman> nlsthzn-work: I'm having the same convo over at #ubuntu... In your opinion.. do you think I'd get the most out of my system with 10.04 LTS or the new one coming out?
[12:07] <nlsthzn-work> halpbatman: You should get the same out of them IMO... they have the same applications, 10.04 will maybe be a version or two behind... but most probably more stable (or that is the theory)... except if there is a known issue with your hardware and with a specific version then both should serve you well... 10.10 looks a bit better though :D
[12:08] <halpbatman> nlsthzn-work: looks as in showy? graphics?
[12:09] <duanedesign> if you use Ubuntu One definetly use a newer release
[12:09] <nlsthzn-work> halpbatman: yes... slight tweaks in how it looks... comes default with the Ubuntu font (if memory serves)... little things... still basically the same thing (nothing radical like Unity coming in 11.04... just note that 10.04 will be supported for a longer period (if you don't want to update regularly)
[12:10] <halpbatman> nlsthzn-work: yeah I think imma stick to LTS.. I use LTS on all other systems... and I actually don't like unity
[12:10] <halpbatman> nlsthzn-work: I think it's annoying
[12:11]  * nlsthzn-work loves Unity...
[12:11] <halpbatman> <--- minimalist
[12:11] <duanedesign> nlsthzn-work: +1
[12:11] <nlsthzn-work> now at a point I can't get used to not using it :/ I need my SHORT-CUTS!!! :p
[12:12] <duanedesign> nlsthzn-work: i have a good link showing all the keyboard shoetcuts
[12:13] <nlsthzn-work> duanedesign: got it yesterday too... already printed and studied, but thanks :D
[12:13] <duanedesign> nlsthzn-work: http://askubuntu.com/questions/28086/unity-keyboard-mouse-shortcuts
[12:13] <duanedesign> ahh
[12:13] <duanedesign> :P
[12:13] <duanedesign> nlsthzn-work: have you seen this? http://castrojo.tumblr.com/post/4795149014/the-power-users-guide-to-unity
[12:13] <duanedesign> some good stuff their
[12:14] <nlsthzn-work> duanedesign: thanks... blocked here at work, but will mail myself so I can check it @ home :D
[12:14] <duanedesign> ;)
[12:15] <duanedesign> List of all the current guides, FAQ's, screencasts about Unity
[12:15] <nlsthzn-work> I love having a use for the super key now... now I just need to replace the windows logo with an ubuntu one and I will be set :)
[12:16] <nlsthzn-work> duanedesign: cool, was a very good video on how unity enhances power users to work faster... I really liked it...
[12:16] <AJH101> nlsthzn-work: do the stickers exist? 1/2 cm square?
[12:17] <AJH101> or do i need to make one myself?! ;-)
[12:17] <nlsthzn-work> AJH101: I think so :/ would love to get a proper one :)
[12:19] <halpbatman> nlsthzn-work: thx for your advice btw
[12:20] <nlsthzn-work> halpbatman: np... more opinion than advice I guess... the nice thing is, you can try the one... and if there are any issues you can try the other :) it will cost you the time to do it... :)
[12:22] <halpbatman> nlsthzn-work: quick q. so I'm downloading 64bit version of LTS cause I have i7 on this other rig.. but the download file says ubuntu 10.04.... amd64
[12:22] <halpbatman> nlsthzn-work: is that still cool or should I look for intel64 or x86-64
[12:23] <nlsthzn-work> halpbatman: that is fine... it is the one you are looking for :)
[12:24] <halpbatman> nlsthzn-work: i guess they get first dibs on names for inventing 64bit processing
[12:24] <nlsthzn-work> halpbatman: well... I wouldn't say they "invented" it...
[12:24] <nlsthzn-work> :p
[12:24] <halpbatman> nlsthzn-work: didn't amd come out with the first 64bit processor?
[12:25] <halpbatman> nlsthzn-work: I guest first commercial product and inventing is not the same.
[12:25] <halpbatman> nlsthzn-work: guess*
[12:27] <nlsthzn-work> :) but yes, AMD for once beat Intel to the punch so I guess it is fitting :)
[12:27] <halpbatman> I wonder who's gonna start the 128bits
[12:27] <halpbatman> :D
[12:28] <nlsthzn-work> :)
[16:02] <karni> duanedesign: right :)
[16:03] <duanedesign> hello
[16:05] <karni> \o
[18:57] <Laggg> my internets has been acting so weird
[18:57] <Laggg> even apt-get update isnt working well
[18:57] <Laggg> its just says waiting for headers waiting for headrs
[18:59] <nlsthzn> Laggg: may be a problem on the server you have selected... you can always try and alternative server and see if it helps :)
[18:59] <Laggg> i think it has more to do with my router
[19:00] <nlsthzn> ok :)
[19:03] <Laggg> everything is just super slow
[19:04] <Laggg> witter wont load ...
[19:04] <Laggg> twitter*
[19:37] <virgo> Lagg: whats your internet configuration?
[19:38] <virgo> i mean speed, routers, other computers, wireless
[20:19] <raubvogel> Any reason why I would not be able to upgrade virtualbox on 10.10 to 4?
[20:20] <holstein> raubvogel: if its not in the repos?
[20:20] <holstein> you planning on using a PPA?
[20:20] <raubvogel> yeah. I followed instructions in http://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Linux_Downloads
[20:20] <raubvogel> Which have worked for previous releases
[20:21] <raubvogel> But I am stuck on 3.2
[20:21] <holstein> did you install both verions?
[20:22] <raubvogel> I cannot install 4
[20:22] <holstein> raubvogel: both the open and propritary ones
[20:22] <holstein> i am proposing you have 3.2 of one and 4 of the other
[20:22] <raubvogel> Oh
[20:22] <raubvogel> Right now I only have the proprietary 3.2
[20:22] <holstein> maybe not though
[20:23] <holstein> raubvogel: i would try re-downloading
[20:23] <holstein> and reinstalling from the proper .deb
[20:23] <holstein> then, who knows
[20:23] <holstein> should just work*
[20:23] <raubvogel> According to synaptic, I only have the proprietary 3.2
[20:24] <holstein> raubvogel: you could try uninstalling
[20:24] <holstein> and re-do it
[20:24] <raubvogel> If you follow the instructions in the link I  mentioned, it should work fine with apt-get/synaptic/etc
[20:24] <raubvogel> I am considering doing the uninstall route
[20:24] <raubvogel> Just annoyed I have to
[20:24] <holstein> http://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Linux_Downloads
[20:24] <holstein> from there
[20:25] <holstein> you could add the PPA
[20:25] <raubvogel> (03:20:49 PM) raubvogel: yeah. I followed instructions in http://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Linux_Downloads
[20:25] <holstein> right
[20:25] <holstein> that link has PPA instructions too
[20:25] <holstein> i was just clarifying
[20:25] <raubvogel> Aha
[20:25] <holstein> if you add the PPA
[20:25] <raubvogel> This is my post on VB forum: http://forums.virtualbox.org/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=40949
[20:26] <holstein> you should be able to just upgrade
[20:26] <holstein> and get the latest version
[20:26] <raubvogel> PPA being the key?
[20:26] <holstein> the key is different
[20:26] <holstein> you add a line to the PPA
[20:26]  * holstein looking
[20:27] <raubvogel> I added "deb http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/debian maverick contrib non-free" to /etc/apt/sources.list
[20:27] <raubvogel> Since I am running 10.10
[20:27] <raubvogel> I guess I am still confused about what PPA is
[20:27] <holstein> yeah, that info looks reight
[20:28] <holstein> well, its just an added repository
[20:28] <raubvogel> Ok
[20:28] <holstein> an extra resource for your system to use
[20:28] <holstein> apt or synaptic or the software center
[20:28] <holstein> whatever
[20:28] <holstein> however you get software and updates
[20:28] <raubvogel> What is the diff between that and /etc/apt/sources.list?
[20:28] <holstein> a PPA is a way to add newer pacakges
[20:28] <holstein> or different ones
[20:29] <holstein> raubvogel: that file has a list of your sources
[20:29] <holstein> the sources apt or whatever uses
[20:29] <holstein> there are some there by default
[20:29] <holstein> and you can add others
[20:29] <holstein> theres a PPA for firefox for example
[20:31] <raubvogel> Where is this file?
[20:31] <holstein> the sources file?
[20:31] <raubvogel> PPA
[20:31] <holstein>  /etc/atp
[20:31] <holstein>  /etc/apt*
[20:31] <holstein> raubvogel: there are other ways to add it
[20:31] <holstein> you can do it from synaptic
[20:31] <holstein> theres also ubuntutweak
[20:32] <holstein> all kinds of little extras tweak can do
[20:32] <holstein> adding PPA's easily is one of those things
[20:33] <raubvogel> Found my problem
[20:33] <charlie-tca> ubuntutweak is not recommended
[20:33] <charlie-tca> !ubuntutweak
[20:33] <ubot2> Ubuntu Tweak is a tool that automates some things; however, it is potentially dangerous an informal review of its code is pending and most of the things it does can be done by the use of other tools. Please don't ask for or provide support for it in #ubuntu.
[20:33] <raubvogel> I had in source.list deb http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/debian maverick non-free
[20:33] <raubvogel> instead of deb http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/debian maverick contrib non-free
[20:33] <raubvogel> (note the contrib)
[20:34] <holstein> charlie-tca: so how do you feel about tweak ;)
[20:34] <holstein> i read all that, and then i tried it
[20:34] <charlie-tca> I have never used it
[20:34] <holstein> and actually its not bad
[20:34] <holstein> but, i can see the concern
[20:34] <charlie-tca> but if it will not be supported in #ubuntu, it should not be recommended here either
[20:34] <holstein> and encourage others to read about it before installing
[20:40] <holstein> raubvogel: you get it sorted?
[20:40] <raubvogel> yep
[20:40] <raubvogel> Had missed "contrib"
[20:41] <holstein> good for you
[20:41] <holstein> updates should just come in
[20:42] <raubvogel> Agreed
[23:17] <kristian-aalborg> quick, some nice small games ;)
[23:17] <MrChrisDruif> kristian-aalborg: maybe better in -offtopic?
[23:19] <kristian-aalborg> MrChrisDruif: but... there's no such thing?
[23:20] <MrChrisDruif> kristian-aalborg: I meant -team :P
[23:20] <kristian-aalborg> ah, yes... see ya there