[08:05] <evilduanedesign> morning all
[08:52] <kim0> Morning everyone
[08:52] <kim0> evilduanedesign: why are you evil today :)
[09:00] <evilduanedesign> kim0: <whispers> I am on my windows machine </whisper>
[09:00] <kim0> ah hahaa :)
[09:01] <evilduanedesign> :)
[10:01] <huats> morning
[11:20] <nigelb> hey kim0
[11:35] <duanedesign> hey nigelb
[11:46] <kim0> nigelb: hey there
[11:57] <duanedesign> popey: ping
[11:58] <popey> duanedesign: pong
[11:59] <duanedesign> popey: did you have any issues recording sound in Natty?
[11:59] <popey> i have lots of issues in natty
[11:59] <popey> mostly around recording video tbh
[11:59] <duanedesign> I am trying to do some screencasts and not having much luck :/
[11:59] <popey> yeah, crap isnt it?
[12:00]  * duanedesign nods
[15:00] <akgraner> jcastro - open week email  (though I for to add Sessions Needed to the subject line) just went out to various lists and individual people...:-)
[15:00] <akgraner> we only need 14 people or teams of people...that's not too many more...
[15:00] <nigelb> oh, need help with people.
[15:00] <akgraner> yep let me send you the email
[15:00] <nigelb> akgraner: I had an idea earlier. I want to run it by you.
[15:01] <nigelb> So, we had lightning talks the last 2 times, one hosted by me and one hosted by mhall119 (thanks again)
[15:01] <akgraner> nigelb, email should in your inbox...
[15:01] <nigelb> I saw the one you sent to UW :-)
[15:01] <akgraner> :-)
[15:02] <nigelb> Wait, UoW focus is on end user?
[15:02] <nigelb> I thought it was contributors...
[15:02] <akgraner> both
[15:02] <nigelb> *faceplam* that's the Week I'm in Delhi :(
[15:02] <akgraner> but you are usually an end user then a contributor
[15:02] <akgraner> ;-)
[15:03] <nigelb> Good point.
[15:04] <akgraner> so this is the start of that process...Use Ubuntu --> Learn about all the areas or one area of interest --> Contribute
[15:04] <akgraner> (or at least that's how I think about it)
[15:04] <akgraner> but if you don't know what all there is available out there how can you decided what interests you?
[15:04] <nigelb> good point
[15:06] <akgraner> So let's introduce people to all these awesome areas and help end users become better more effective, efficient users who will then (maybe) want to be a part if the awesome teams  as members and contributers...
[15:06] <akgraner> that's my thinking anyway :-D
[15:07] <akgraner> SO who's with me - take a look and add your session!  yes? :-D (ok please)
[15:07] <nigelb> I'll poke the UW folks I can this week and see if anyone's interested
[15:07] <akgraner> I wouldn't mind giving one - but I have no idea what to talk about...
[15:08] <akgraner> so if someone suggestions something they would like me to talk about ...I'll give a session as well...
[15:08] <nigelb> akgraner: 'NTEU to Geek'
[15:08] <nigelb> JFo, mhall119, cjohnston ^^
[15:08] <nigelb> Please +1 that suggestion :D
[15:09] <akgraner> nigelb, I'm not sure people want to that - I'm not sure I'm geek enough yet...:-/
[15:09] <nigelb> hah
[15:09] <nigelb> I'll ask your kids what they think of that :p
[15:09] <mhall119> akgraner: you're still trying to deny your geekiness?
[15:09] <akgraner> nigelb, I'll tell you what - if you can get me 10 questions to answer as it relates to that  - I'll do it...
[15:10] <nigelb> akgraner: You could do something about commandline and how to use it
[15:10] <akgraner> (that other people or yourself want to know about that would help others)
[15:10] <nigelb> the title certainly fits that kind of a talk :D
[15:10] <akgraner> nigelb, while I use the commandline I prefer a gui over it almost everytime
[15:11] <mhall119> akgraner: you and becca should make a "Friday" parody song and video
[15:11] <mhall119> maybe s/Friday/Natty/
[15:11] <mhall119> and make JFo do the random rapping part
[15:12] <nigelb> hehe
[15:12] <akgraner> Pete tried to take my mouse away and force commandline usage - I said "step away from my mouse and no one gets hurt!"
[15:12] <mhall119> "It's Natty, Natty, gotta download Natty.  Everybody's looking forward to the up grade"
[15:13] <akgraner> mhall119, let me get the Get this party started parody for release week finished first...
[15:13] <nigelb> akgraner: *cough*, he should have disbled the mouse from the kernel.
[15:13] <akgraner> we have the sound music track now we are going to overlay the vocals using audacity sometime this weekend
[15:13] <nigelb> I'll suggest that to jfo.
[15:13] <mhall119> nigelb: lol
[15:14] <mhall119> akgraner: getting the hang of audacity?
[15:14] <akgraner> yep - Carla's Book is awesome!
[15:14] <akgraner> Once I get finished I'll write a review and how it helped us do this
[15:15] <nigelb> akgraner: that's it!
[15:15] <nigelb> akgraner: How to use audacity!
[15:18] <akgraner> Ummm let me see if I can get Carla to do that one...
[15:18] <akgraner> :-)
[15:18] <akgraner> after she wrote the book...
[15:18] <nigelb> ah, yes!
[15:22] <JFo> nigelb, :-)
[15:22]  * JFo plans an SRU
[15:22] <nigelb> heh
[15:23] <JFo> if $user contains(akgraner)
[15:23] <nigelb> JFo: exactly what I was thinking
[15:24] <akgraner> ummm that's not funny especially when I figure out how to change it back...
[15:24] <JFo> you think we can't bury it in C code?
[15:24] <JFo> you misjudge our determination ;-)
[15:25] <JFo> you misjudge our determination ;-)p
[15:25] <JFo> resistance is futile
[15:25] <nigelb> we are the borg
[15:25] <JFo> yeah, I typed that for the second one... but I apparently hit the arrow key :-/
[15:25] <JFo> today is a bad typey day
[15:25] <nigelb> heh
[15:26] <JFo> :)
[15:27] <mhall119> JFo: unfortunately, bzr will give it away pretty quickly
[15:27] <JFo> bzr?
[15:27] <JFo> the kernel source is in git
[15:27] <nigelb> mhall119: kernel is not in bzr is it?
[15:27] <mhall119> okay, then git will give it away
[15:27] <JFo> and we would hide it in a rebase
[15:27] <mhall119> oh, now that's just evil
[15:27] <nigelb> or we could commit one char at a time
[15:27] <JFo> dig through several thousand commits if you wnat :)
[15:28] <nigelb> like if($foo=a)
[15:28] <nigelb> then ak
[15:28] <nigelb> then akg
[15:28] <nigelb> also in a rebase
[15:28] <JFo> nigelb, it owuld be even better if we simply compared a hash
[15:28] <JFo> then you never see the chars
[15:28] <mhall119> course, she could just change her username
[15:29] <JFo> just a comparison of the user with the hash
[15:29] <JFo> mhall119, we have ways of knowing about those types of things :-)
[15:29] <mhall119> maybe she doesn't even use 'akgraner' for her local username
[15:29] <nigelb> we can always check with pete :P
[15:30] <mhall119> heh, spoken like a bachelor
[15:30] <JFo> there are many other things we could do...
[15:30]  * JFo cackles evilly
[15:30] <nigelb> ask Becca or Matt.
[15:30] <nigelb> JFo: on an unrelated note, we could just write a script to do it and put in bash.rc
[15:30] <nigelb> .bashrcf
[15:30] <nigelb> .bashrc
[15:31] <JFo> true
[15:31] <nigelb> UGH, today is typo day
[15:31] <JFo> "bad spelling friday"
[15:32] <akgraner> you guys are evil...:-p
[15:33] <paultag> wait, what are we doing?
[15:33] <akgraner> ok I emailed Carla...let's hope she says yes!
[15:33] <nigelb> paultag: trying to turn off akgraner's mouse so that she learns command line
[15:33] <nigelb> paultag: care to sugest ideas
[15:33] <paultag> Oh, easy
[15:33] <nigelb> JFo: ^^
[15:33]  * nigelb takes notes
[15:33] <paultag> remove /dev/input/mouse0
[15:34] <paultag> or mice
[15:34] <paultag> whatever it uses
[15:34] <nigelb> aha
[15:34] <paultag> then cat random numbers in it's place
[15:34] <paultag> oh that's even better
[15:34] <paultag> just have an app cat random numbers at mouse0
[15:34] <paultag> so that it just jumps around randomly
[15:35] <nigelb> JFo: we haz the perfect tool.
[15:37] <JFo> hmmm
[15:37] <akgraner> yeah - hmmmm.....
[15:37] <JFo> :)
[15:38]  * nigelb goes home. In the rain.
[15:38] <akgraner> Again - Step away from my mouse and no one will get hurt!
[15:38] <akgraner> nigelb, :-(
[15:38] <nigelb> We will not do anything to your mouse ma'am.
[15:38] <JFo> I'm not getting near your mouse... this will happen by way of updates :-)
[15:38]  * JFo thinks kees would love this
[15:38] <nigelb> JFo: <whisper>let's grab the Ip address and do this during UDS</whisper>
[15:39] <JFo> lol
[15:39] <nigelb> if akgraner's computer is unattended, attack!
[15:40] <nigelb> ok, time to drive back home. I hope I don't get sick.
[15:40] <paultag> why don't we just see what PPAs she uses
[15:40] <paultag> then upload bash to it
[15:40] <paultag> with this nice payload in it
[15:41] <paultag> it's a feature
[15:41] <paultag> it prevents starting the screensaver
[15:49] <akgraner> doctormo, what time and date work best for you?
[15:50] <doctormo> akgraner: Wednesday, EST evening would be good.
[15:51] <akgraner> ok I'll but you in for the 1700 utc slot then...(lastest slot on that day)
[15:51] <akgraner> ok on any day really but you know what I mean
[15:51] <doctormo> paultag: See my blog last night?
[15:52] <doctormo> akgraner: So 22:00 EST, thanks.
[15:52] <paultag> doctormo: nosir. I've been off-tech
[15:52] <paultag> doctormo: linky linky plox
[15:52] <doctormo> http://doctormo.org/2011/04/21/hot-swapping-languages-batman/
[15:53] <paultag> doctormo: nice! :)
[15:53] <paultag> doctormo: cool approach
[15:54] <paultag> I dig
[15:54] <akgraner> doctormo, ummm no it would 1pm   - http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/converted.html?month=4&day=22&year=2011&hour=17&min=0&sec=0&p1=0&p2=43
[15:56] <doctormo> akgraner: Ah I got the time diff the wrong way round in my head. Perhaps something in the morning then?
[15:56] <doctormo> akgraner: I hope to have a job by then you see, well a new non-city job that pays ;-)
[15:57] <akgraner> doctormo, 11am on wednesday is available or 10am on Friday
[15:58] <akgraner> (those times are in your local time btw not utc it would be 1500 and 1400 utc on those days)
[15:59] <akgraner> doctormo, good luck and congrats...:-)
[15:59] <doctormo> akgraner: Hmm, it's a bit out of time. Put me down for 11am on wednesday and I'll org a way if I get the job.
[16:00] <akgraner> k will do thanks!
[16:01] <akgraner> and done - :-)  Thanks again doctormo
[16:01] <doctormo> akgraner: Good luck!
[16:08] <duanedesign> jcastro: when can  people sign up for the Lightning Talks at UDS?
[16:13] <akgraner> duanedesign, I know you want to give a screen casting session for Ubuntu Open Week don't ya?
[16:16] <duanedesign> akgraner: yes, I did say I would do that
[16:17] <akgraner> take a look at the schedule and just add it in there - thanks!
[16:18] <duanedesign> akgraner: I will add a todo item for that
[16:21] <akgraner> Thanks!
[16:49] <akgraner> ok so Rikki Kite with Linux New Media said she would give a session on writing good press releases
[16:49] <akgraner> and take general Q and A from the community on best practices for promoting projects, events etc to the press
[16:50] <akgraner> what do you all think?
[16:56] <akgraner> How cool is it we'll get an hour with a professional publisher to teach us better ways to promote our events and projects
[16:57] <akgraner> woot woot! :-)  Also best practice for writing press releases and more...I'm excited.. now if we can just get the schedules to line up...
[17:11] <akgraner> woot woot - shoot, score win !  Carla will give the Audacity class!
[17:11] <akgraner> jcastro, ^^^^^
[17:13] <jussi> akgraner: epic! D:
[17:13] <jussi> :D
[17:14] <akgraner> I thought so...
[17:14] <akgraner> I am so freakin happy  - rikki and carla woot woot woot...:-)
[17:15] <nigelb> akgraner: \o/
[17:19] <akgraner> nigelb, we're getting there...
[17:52] <nigelb> akgraner: haha, 'no snake poo here'
[17:54] <akgraner> nigelb, I know ...:-(
[17:56] <JFo> heh
[18:38] <mhall119> lol
[18:38] <mhall119> I guess pete's not a fan of dynamic typing
[18:40] <akgraner> mhall119, you'll have to ask him
[18:42] <mhall119> or maybe he just don't like interpreted languages
[18:43] <mhall119> or, gasp, maybe he *likes* pointers
[18:43]  * mhall119 shudders at the thought
[18:46] <tsimpson> everything in an interpreted language is a pointer, you just can't manipulate it is all
[18:46] <mhall119> under the hood maybe
[18:47] <mhall119> but as a developer all you see are references
[18:47] <mhall119> same with Java, actualy
[18:48] <akgraner> mhall119, I don't know...:-/
[20:18] <jcastro> JFo: ping
[20:22] <JFo> jcastro, pong
[20:22] <jcastro> http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=linux_mobile_uffda&num=1
[20:22] <jcastro> can you put that on the proper kernel team radar?
[20:23] <JFo> sure
[20:23]  * jcastro isn't sure who is power hmfic these days
[20:23] <JFo> it is probably already there
[20:23] <JFo> but I will make sure
[20:25]  * jcastro nods
[20:53] <mhall119> my external USB keeps unmounting itself in the middle of my rsync backup...this probably isn't a good sign
[20:54] <mhall119> I suppose I should start pricing out new backup solutions