| stgraber | cjwatson: diagnostic so far is that the .md5sum file isn't even read by ucf, not sure why yet | 00:02 |
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| * SpamapS wipes the sweat off his brow, checks for any bleeding wounds, then returns to hacking | 00:03 | |
| micahg | stgraber: FYI, cjwatson said he was gone a few hours ago in case you're waiting for a quick answer | 00:12 |
| stgraber | cjwatson: ok, found the issue, it's caused by the fact that we have a lastsum on the system, so the whole .md5sum file is ignored | 00:12 |
| stgraber | micahg: nope, not really hoping for a quick answer :) I'll likely post that in the bug report anyway | 00:12 |
| micahg | stgraber: k :) | 00:13 |
| ohsix | am i seeing things or is python-ubuntuone-client and ubuntuone-client broke right now w/ unsatisfiable deps | 00:41 |
| ohsix | ahhnm i know what to check, ftb for my arch | 00:43 |
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| kees | skaet: what's the best way to answer the question "is pkg Foo seeded?" | 01:42 |
| cjwatson | kees: http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/germinate-output/ | 01:43 |
| cjwatson | grep through that (perhaps over ssh rather than http) | 01:43 |
| skaet | kees, its an area I'm still learning about, germinate is what folks use. | 01:43 |
| kees | cjwatson: ah, yes, germinate again. how quickly I forget. :) | 01:45 |
| cjwatson | (also: make the distinction between "explicitly seeded" and "pulled in by dependency-expansion of seeds") | 01:46 |
| kees | well, mostly I'm trying to sort out the mess that is cyrus-sasl2-heimdal. we branched from debian at the wrong time... | 01:47 |
| kees | currently cyrus-sasl2-heimdal is uninstallable and ftbfs. it's in universe, but people do use it. | 01:48 |
| cjwatson | the rdepends/ directories in germinate-output can tell you why something is wanted in main | 01:49 |
| kees | nothing seems to seed it, so that's nice. but to fix it, we need debian's -6 of cyrus-sasl2, and that gets seeded by lots. I suspect this'll need a -proposed update after release. | 01:49 |
| cjwatson | they're the answer to many questions in that area | 01:49 |
| cjwatson | I'd prefer to keep the term "seeded" for "there's an explicit entry in the seed files kept in bzr for it" | 01:50 |
| kees | gotcha | 01:50 |
| cjwatson | since that corresponds to the useful concept of "we explicitly decided we wanted this in main regardless of dependencies" (mostly) | 01:51 |
| cjwatson | and besides the verb/noun correspondence makes more sense that way :) | 01:51 |
| cavedon | hi, jcc binary on natty needs to be rebuilt. what is the procedure for requesting a rebuild at this stage? | 02:25 |
| cavedon | I guess open a bug and subscribe whom? | 02:26 |
| sladen | cavedon: open a bug, subscribe ubuntu-release | 02:42 |
| cavedon | sladen, thanks | 02:42 |
| sladen | cavedon: got the bug number/package name? | 02:46 |
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| cavedon | sladen, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/jcc/+bug/768733 | 03:00 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 768733 in jcc (Ubuntu) "undefined symbol JNI_GetDefaultJavaVMInitArgs (needs rebuild)" [Undecided,New] | 03:00 |
| sladen | cavedon: python -m jcc.__main__ "/usr/bin/python: No module named _jcc" that's a different error to what the bug report suggests?> | 03:06 |
| sladen | cavedon: how can I test the rebuild fixes it? | 03:07 |
| happyaron | Is there any plan about Firefox 4 for Lucid? | 06:08 |
| micahg | happyaron: no, but maybe 5 or 6 | 06:12 |
| micahg | happyaron: you can get it now in the PPA, ppa:mozillateam/firefox-stable | 06:12 |
| happyaron | micahg: thanks. I'm using Nighly from ftp.mozilla.org now, which get auto-update everyday. | 06:18 |
| micahg | happyaron: we have nightlies too, ppa:ubuntu-mozilla-daily/ppa, package is firefox-trunk | 06:18 |
| happyaron | thanks. | 06:19 |
| didrocks | good morning | 07:56 |
| smoser | anyone have any ideas? i've got a self signed https server . i have 2 systems running natty, that comlain about it, but will let me get the file. | 08:04 |
| smoser | i have 2 systems running lucid (headless systems, the other 2 are desktops) that simply refuse | 08:04 |
| smoser | wget says: Unable to establish SSL connection. | 08:04 |
| smoser | python urllib2 gives: urllib2.URLError: <urlopen error [Errno 104] Connection reset by peer> | 08:05 |
| lool | slangasek: apparently the u1 package issue went away by itself | 08:15 |
| lool | or someone fixed it | 08:15 |
| slangasek | yeah, there was IS fixing involved :) | 08:15 |
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| tseliot | Riddell: can you approve fglrx in the archive, please? It contains updates to the EULA and to the documentation | 09:12 |
| tseliot | it won't affect the image build since the driver is not installed by default | 09:12 |
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| Quintasan | good morning | 11:29 |
| mdeslaur | good morning | 13:18 |
| mdeslaur | @pilot in | 13:18 |
| === udevbot changed the topic of #ubuntu-devel to: Beta-2 released | Archive: final freeze | Development of Ubuntu (not support, not app development) | #ubuntu for support and general discussion for dapper -> maverick | #ubuntu-app-devel for application development on Ubuntu | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment | See #ubuntu-bugs for http://wiki.ubuntu.com/HelpingWithBugs | Patch Pilots: mdeslaur | ||
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| ScottK | sladen: I took care of jcc. | 14:12 |
| ScottK | tseliot: It's on the Kubuntu DVD so it does affect image building. | 14:14 |
| tseliot | ScottK: ah, I didn't know that | 14:14 |
| sladen | ScottK: ta | 14:16 |
| J_Rey | Anyone know if the system requirements are going to noticably increase if using Unity? | 14:31 |
| tomreyn | is there a universal command which can be used to check for presence of installed non-free kernel modules? | 14:35 |
| tomreyn | i think apport and reportbug do this but i'm not sure how | 14:36 |
| mterry | tomreyn, jockey? | 14:43 |
| directhex | tomreyn, /proc/sys/kernel/tainted | 14:43 |
| directhex | tomreyn, 0 means no non-free modules | 14:44 |
| tomreyn | directhex: that's what i was looking for, thanks. How would I go about identifying which modules are tainting the kernel? | 14:46 |
| directhex | tomreyn, that's rather more involved ;) | 14:47 |
| tomreyn | okay, i'll leave it there for now, that's good enough for my needs. | 14:48 |
| directhex | tomreyn, try something like for i in `lsmod | tail -n +2 | cut -f1 -d' '`; do if [ -n "$(modinfo $i | grep ^license | grep -v GPL)" ]; then echo $i; fi; done | 14:56 |
| ScottK | i | 14:56 |
| directhex | tomreyn, this is unsophisticated & will spit out a module which isn't really tainted (e.g. MIT only), and will miss modules which lie to fool the kernel (e.g. "not GPL; Proprietary") | 14:56 |
| smoser | does anyone have a https server with a self signed cert running on natty ? | 15:01 |
| smoser | i have a little python based web server, with self signed cert and I can't connect to it from lucid using python or wget (Unable to establish SSL connection.) | 15:02 |
| smoser | i want to make sure its not a bug in the natty openssl stack | 15:02 |
| mdeslaur | smoser: what about wget with --no-check-certificate? | 15:04 |
| smoser | it fails. | 15:04 |
| smoser | same command succeeds from natty to natty | 15:04 |
| smoser | both complain about the certificate | 15:05 |
| smoser | but it gives "Unable to establish ssl connection" when run from lucid -> natty. | 15:05 |
| mdeslaur | smoser: hmm...interesting | 15:06 |
| smoser | wait. i might not have been cclear | 15:06 |
| smoser | server is natty python based self signed cert. | 15:07 |
| smoser | when client is lucid, wget and python fail | 15:07 |
| smoser | when client is natty, wget and python both succeed | 15:07 |
| mdeslaur | smoser: give me a few minutes, I'll set up a natty apache with https and try it | 15:09 |
| fta | robbiew, hi, do we know how debdelta compares with google's courgette? | 15:12 |
| fta | robbiew, https://sites.google.com/a/chromium.org/dev/developers/design-documents/software-updates-courgette | 15:12 |
| RoAkSoAx | mdeslaur: howdy!! Since you are piloting, could you please sponsor bug #768598 please? | 15:12 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 768598 in powernap (Ubuntu) "PowerNap does not take recover action in PowerSave mode after powernap-now" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/768598 | 15:12 |
| robbiew | fta: I don't, and tbh would prefer to use something shared by debian | 15:13 |
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| fta | robbiew, ok, fair enough. i just has the impression that courgette would be several orders of magnitude smaller | 15:14 |
| fta | but i didn't test deltadeb | 15:14 |
| mdeslaur | RoAkSoAx: sure...I'll have to ask the release team for approval first though | 15:14 |
| mdeslaur | RoAkSoAx: actually...looks like it's too late for release, so it needs to be an SRU once natty is out | 15:16 |
| RoAkSoAx | mdeslaur: Oh, I didn't know that we were already frozen. Thanks though! | 15:17 |
| tumbleweed | smoser: works for me (twisted ssl server) | 15:20 |
| smoser | tumbleweed, you have a self signed https server running on natty? and you can connect to it using wget or python from lucid ? | 15:23 |
| tumbleweed | smoser: with --no-check-certificate yes | 15:23 |
| smoser | ok. thank you. | 15:24 |
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| ScottK | RoAkSoAx and mdeslaur: You can upload to natty-proposed now, although (unless I screw up) it won't get accepted until release. | 15:32 |
| ScottK | No need to wait. | 15:33 |
| mdeslaur | ScottK: ah! cool, thanks | 15:34 |
| mdeslaur | RoAkSoAx: I'll upload powernap as a day 0 SRU | 15:42 |
| kirkland | mdeslaur: RoAkSoAx: thanks | 15:42 |
| RoAkSoAx | ScottK: cool!! good to know! Thanks | 15:43 |
| RoAkSoAx | mdeslaur: awesome! Thank you | 15:43 |
| RoAkSoAx | kirkland: wouldn't have even noticed if you wouldn't have pointed it out :) | 15:43 |
| kirkland | RoAkSoAx: i was working with negronjl, showing it off, and it broke for both of us | 15:43 |
| RoAkSoAx | kirkland: yeah I don't really know what happened cause I did patch that. I guess I just forgot to commit those 3 lines when changing laptopsg | 15:44 |
| RoAkSoAx | kirkland: btw.. how did the tests go? How much energy savings were shown? | 15:44 |
| RoAkSoAx | kirkland: btw the issue was only seen when executing powernap-now, cause it wouldn't have come back up with activity or powerwake-now. But other than that everything was working as expected | 15:46 |
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| tomreyn | directhex: thanks for the non-free kernel module one-liner :) | 16:36 |
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| mdeslaur | @pilot out | 16:59 |
| === udevbot changed the topic of #ubuntu-devel to: Beta-2 released | Archive: final freeze | Development of Ubuntu (not support, not app development) | #ubuntu for support and general discussion for dapper -> maverick | #ubuntu-app-devel for application development on Ubuntu | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment | See #ubuntu-bugs for http://wiki.ubuntu.com/HelpingWithBugs | Patch Pilots: | ||
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| hallyn | Daviey: about bug 769025, what do we do with it, target it at 'natty-updates'? | 17:47 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 769025 in libcgroup (Ubuntu) "package cgroup-bin 0.37.1-1ubuntu1 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess installed pre-removal script returned error exit status 1" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/769025 | 17:47 |
| ohsix | hallyn: do you know offhand if cgroup-bin still makes suspend fail? | 17:53 |
| hallyn | ohsix: nope | 17:56 |
| hallyn | thatis, i don't know | 17:57 |
| ohsix | i had a fun time figuring it out :] installed it to check it out a few times and thought the failures were from thekernel or something related | 17:57 |
| ohsix | the way it bins threads, kernel and otherwise messes with the ordering of something, at least with the default configuration in cgroup-bin | 17:57 |
| ohsix | i didn't know enough about it (that's why i wnated to mess with it) to offer a fix, and i still don't; shrug | 17:58 |
| hallyn | ohsix: there is an open bug about it right? | 18:02 |
| hallyn | (pretty sure i saw one before) | 18:02 |
| hallyn | if i get through some other bugs, i may try to reproduce here | 18:02 |
| ohsix | yea i think i filed one after i found out & closed the bug i reported for the suspend | 18:02 |
| ohsix | one moment | 18:03 |
| ohsix | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libcgroup/+bug/713187 | 18:04 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 713187 in libcgroup (Ubuntu) "cgroup-bin default configuration breaks suspend" [Undecided,New] | 18:04 |
| hallyn | ohsix: thanks | 18:18 |
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| ScottK | barry: I think Bug #768363 is python2.7 related. I was wondering if you could have a look. | 18:37 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 768363 in software-properties (Ubuntu) "Not able to change software origins in software-properties-kde - TypeError: coercing to Unicode: need string or buffer, NoneType found" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/768363 | 18:37 |
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| dobey | can someone approve the lucid/maverick nominations on bug #663001 please? | 19:45 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 663001 in libubuntuone trunk "My Downloads page shows incorrect status for songs with some non-English characters" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/663001 | 19:45 |
| Cas07 | I updated this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pygtk/+bug/664920 with ubuntu sponsors so that it can be backported but i am wondering if there is anything else i should do? | 20:11 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 664920 in pygtk (Ubuntu) "100% CPU usage when calling a child process from a python script" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 20:11 |
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| hallyn | ohsix: actually, i think libcgroup may no longer stop suspend from working. It's not placing tasks in any child cgroups for me by default | 20:38 |
| hallyn | ohsix: that's not to say you can't write a config to make it do so. (nor that i'm just wrong about my conclusion) | 20:39 |
| ohsix | did the config remove the default groupings? | 20:39 |
| ohsix | right, the config it came with in mav was what was moving things | 20:39 |
| hallyn | ok - we still might want to teach libcgroup explicitly not to move kthreadd, but by default maybe it won't mess people up | 20:40 |
| Daviey | hallyn, That package is universe, and unseeded by flavours as far as i can see. Therefore, natty pocket makes sense still. | 20:40 |
| ohsix | it might be more than kthreadd, at least with respect to suspend, but since it's bad to do it's probably prudent | 20:41 |
| hallyn | ohsix: right | 20:41 |
| hallyn | Daviey: are you saying go ahead and dput? | 20:41 |
| Daviey | hallyn, Final freeze for universe/multiverse is 26th. | 20:41 |
| Daviey | hallyn, Yes, i would. | 20:42 |
| hallyn | Daviey: cool, then i just have to find someone who's not on vacation who can sponsor :) | 20:42 |
| hallyn | SpamapS: around? | 20:42 |
| Daviey | hallyn, linky, i can | 20:42 |
| hallyn | finding | 20:42 |
| Daviey | hallyn, Vacation is for wuffos. | 20:42 |
| hallyn | Daviey: the source (minus .orig.tar.gz) is at http://people.canonical.com/~serge/libcgroup_0.37.1-1ubuntu2-package.tgz. bzr tree is linked to the bug which is https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libcgroup/+bug/769025 | 20:44 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 769025 in libcgroup (Ubuntu) "package cgroup-bin 0.37.1-1ubuntu1 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess installed pre-removal script returned error exit status 1" [Medium,Confirmed] | 20:44 |
| hallyn | Daviey: i could do with a week vacation with no laptop available | 20:44 |
| Daviey | hallyn, so bzr branch is suitable for review? | 20:44 |
| hallyn | yup | 20:44 |
| hallyn | want me to do merge request? | 20:44 |
| Daviey | hallyn, I get shaky hands if i haen't checked my email for an hour. | 20:44 |
| Daviey | hallyn, sure, go for it. | 20:44 |
| hallyn | merge proposal sent | 20:45 |
| hallyn | yeah i used to be that way. i might still be. wouldn't know, bc it hasn't happened :) | 20:46 |
| Daviey | hallyn, what about https://code.launchpad.net/~serge-hallyn/ubuntu/natty/libcgroup/upstart ? | 20:46 |
| hallyn | Daviey: that's merged | 20:47 |
| hallyn | well upstart2 was | 20:47 |
| hallyn | it was a long road :) | 20:48 |
| Daviey | hallyn, does that mean bug 681724 is fix released? | 20:48 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 681724 in libcgroup (Ubuntu) "cgroup-bin package installs with errors (failure to parse /etc/cgconfig.conf)" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/681724 | 20:48 |
| hallyn | Daviey: i forgot all about that one! Yes, it is. we're now mounting under /sys/fs/cgroup/ | 20:49 |
| hallyn | looks like we licked 5 or 6 bugs with the last-minute release. and so far only created one new one :) | 20:50 |
| * hallyn ^5s jbernard | 20:50 | |
| Daviey | hallyn, Okay, looking at the merge proposal now.. Could you copy the debian/changelog entry that fixed that bug into a comment, and change the status to Fix Released please? | 20:50 |
| hallyn | a comment on that bug you mean, right? | 20:51 |
| hallyn | done | 20:52 |
| Daviey | ta | 20:52 |
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| micahg | mdke: ubuntu-docs firefox-index still references Ubuntu 10.10, I filed a bug against ubuntu-docs a couple weeks ago | 21:21 |
| mdke | micahg: does firefox still use that these days? I thought it was all handled internally by now | 21:22 |
| micahg | mdke: firefox doesn't, but midori does and I think maybe others | 21:23 |
| mdke | micahg: I can fix it now but don't know if the upload will be accepted | 21:23 |
| ScottK | SRU material now unless you can get a fix uploaded in the next 15 minutes. | 21:23 |
| micahg | mdke: would you rather me fix the midori home page? | 21:23 |
| ScottK | We have a Ubiquity fix that's about to go in, so I can take a trivial fix if it's quick. | 21:24 |
| micahg | mdke: ugh, it's seeded, I'll see if I can fix midori and the other browsers instead | 21:24 |
| mdke | it's fairly easy SRU material though | 21:25 |
| mdke | ScottK: I will try a gnome-user-docs upload in the next 15, as I have some help for mobile broadband that I'd like to get onto the images if at all possible | 21:26 |
| ScottK | Hurry. Just accepted Ubiquity. | 21:26 |
| micahg | mdke: ok, if you want to SRU the ubuntu-docs change, that'll probably be easier, then we can fix the other browsers for oneiric | 21:26 |
| mdke | ScottK: will depend how long it takes to build. Testing is straightforward | 21:28 |
| ScottK | Let's see how he does with my deadline for getting it in -release first .... | 21:28 |
| ScottK | OK | 21:28 |
| ScottK | mdke: It looks like you've got a little longer, there's some buildd backlog and I doubt Ubiquity will make the next publisher run. | 21:30 |
| mdke | ScottK: splendid, my laptop is a bit slow at building :) | 21:30 |
| ScottK | So don't dawdle, but better to take a little extra time to get it right than to push it by a given moment. | 21:30 |
| mdke | noted | 21:31 |
| mdke | how much longer are we talking? | 21:31 |
| mdke | ScottK: uploaded | 21:59 |
| ScottK | Looking | 22:06 |
| ScottK | mdke: Accepted. | 22:07 |
| mdke | ScottK: a million thanks | 22:08 |
| mdke | or hugs | 22:08 |
| ScottK | You're welcome. | 22:08 |
| * ScottK prefers thanks in whisky. | 22:08 | |
| maco | ScottK: taken Riddell's linguistic preferences to heart? | 22:09 |
| ScottK | I figure he's in a position to be authoritative on the matter. | 22:09 |
| mdke | ScottK: noted | 22:11 |
| ScottK | mdke: You coming to UDS again? | 22:11 |
| mdke | ScottK: I'm afraid not. In fact, I've never been to one | 22:12 |
| mdke | :( | 22:12 |
| ScottK | Ah. Too bad then. | 22:12 |
| mdke | difficult to get away from work | 22:12 |
| lamont | how on earth do I get &*^_&N to quit thinking that because the window bumps in to the top of the screen when I move it that I for some inexplicable reason want a full screen version of it? | 22:35 |
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| broder | go in ccsm and disable the grid plugin | 22:52 |
| cjwatson | or Grid -> Edges -> Resize Actions -> Top Edge = None | 22:54 |
| cjwatson | (also in ccsm) | 22:54 |
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