[00:54]  * greg-g waves
[00:54]  * skaet waves
[00:54]  * pleia2 waves
[00:55] <jjohansen> hey skaet
[00:55]  * charlie-tca waves
[00:55]  * jjohansen waves
[00:55] <Emerling> waves
[00:55]  * Pendulum waves
[00:55]  * Emerling waves
[00:55] <skaet> hi jjohansen ;0
[00:56] <skaet> hi charlie-tca
[00:56] <charlie-tca> Hello
[00:56] <Emerling> Hi ElWuilMeR
[00:56] <ElWuilMeR> Emerling, Hi 0/
[00:57] <Emerling> comoe stas?
[00:57] <Emerling> listo?
[00:57] <greg-g> Hello everyone, we'll be starting shortly.
[00:57] <julianarmando> Yeah
[00:57] <julianarmando> Hello :)
[00:57] <ElWuilMeR> Emerling, Si, un poco nervioso.!! Gracias por el apoyo ;)
[00:58] <Emerling> por nada ,, tranquilo,,,
[00:58] <Emerling> take easy
[00:58] <tiagoscd> hello (:
[00:58] <IngForigua> Noches/hello
[00:59] <Emerling> hola IngForigua
[00:59] <Emerling> hello tiagoscd
[00:59] <abr4xas> IngForigua, o/
[00:59] <Emerling> saludos abr4xas
[00:59] <julianarmando> Hola IngForigua, Hola tiagoscd
[00:59] <abr4xas> Emerling, o7
[01:00] <greg-g> alright, lets get this show on the road!
[01:00] <greg-g> #startmeeting
[01:00] <MootBot> Meeting started at 19:00. The chair is greg-g.
[01:00] <MootBot> Commands Available: [TOPIC], [IDEA], [ACTION], [AGREED], [LINK], [VOTE]
[01:00] <greg-g> Hello and welcome to the Ubuntu Membership Review Board for the Americas meeting for April 21st, 2011. The wiki page for the Review Board is available here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Membership/RegionalBoards/Americas
[01:00] <greg-g> We will attempt to get through all of the applicants that have added themselves to that list before today's meeting. If we are unable to make it through the entire list due to time constraints, then at the next meeting we will pick up where we left off.
[01:00] <greg-g> The format for the meeting is as follows: We will go through the list of applicants one by one, by date of application (FIFO).
[01:00] <greg-g> Each applicant should introduce themselves (1-5 sentences) and provide links to their Ubuntu Wiki page. After the introduction the members of the Membership Review Board will review the pages and, if needed, ask the applicant further questions.
[01:00] <greg-g> During this time it is encouraged for other members of the community to show their support for the applicant. Do not be alarmed if the members of the Membership Review Board are quiet during this time; they are most likely reading wiki/launchpad/forum/other pages and deciding how they are going to vote.
[01:00] <greg-g> When the board is ready to vote, they will publicly vote in the channel with either +1, 0, or -1 (for membership, abstain, and against membership, respectively). If the sum of those numbers is positive, then the applicant is now an official Ubuntu member! (feel free congratulate them!)
[01:00] <greg-g> Now, with any further ado, lets get started with the first applicant...
[01:01] <greg-g> is Matt here?
[01:01] <greg-g> doesn't look like it..
[01:01] <cyphermox> don't think so
[01:01] <greg-g> skaet: you're up!
[01:01] <greg-g> [TOPIC] skaet
[01:01] <MootBot> New Topic:  skaet
[01:01] <skaet> hi,
[01:01] <highvoltage> good evening :)
[01:01] <pleia2> welcome back skaet! :)
[01:01] <greg-g> please introduce yourself (quickly, since we know you a bit)
[01:01] <greg-g> :)
[01:02] <skaet> Thanks.
[01:02] <skaet> I've been working as release manager for Ubuntu for the last 6 months,
[01:03] <greg-g> and I personally thank you for that, things have looked like a well run release, from my perspective
[01:03] <maco> 8 months of involvement though. i remember debconf :)
[01:03] <skaet> and have been working with the *buntu community and release team to try to ship out the images
[01:03] <maco> or 9. i cant count.
[01:03] <skaet> heh,  thanks maco,  I was ramping up for the first 2 months.
[01:04] <skaet> got to help behind the scenes with Maverick,  and learn even more with Natty.
[01:04] <skaet> :)
[01:04] <greg-g> awesome
[01:04] <charlie-tca> I want to say that I wholeheartedly endorse skaet for membership. She is a real asset to Ubuntu. It is always good to have someone so interested in making Ubuntu better.
[01:04] <pleia2> thanks charlie-tca
[01:04] <skaet> In addition,  I'm active with some community projects involving licensing and copyrights (SPDX).
[01:04] <skaet> thanks charlie-tca :)
[01:05] <greg-g> skaet: spdx sounds intersting, and up my alley, I have to confess I haven't looked into it much
[01:05] <skaet> Have been trying to get involved in some of the loco activities, as time and opportunities permit.  and help where I can.
[01:05] <pleia2> great :)
[01:05] <greg-g> awesome
[01:05] <highvoltage> Me too, she's always been calm and collected, even through a very rocky alpha series for natty I've never seen her once get angry or lose her cool. She's an outstanding release manager and works well with others and her work is clearly more than 'just a job' for her!
[01:06] <greg-g> so yeah, since we're familiar, I think we can go ahead and vote now
[01:06] <skaet> greg-g,  cool - happy to go into details with you on spdx.  www.spdx.org if you're interested.
[01:06] <greg-g> [VOTE] skaet
[01:06] <MootBot> Please vote on:  skaet.
[01:06] <MootBot> Public votes can be registered by saying +1/-1/+0 in the channel, private votes by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0  to MootBot
[01:06] <MootBot> E.g. /msg MootBot +1 #ubuntu-meeting
[01:06] <maco> +1
[01:06] <MootBot> +1 received from maco. 1 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 1
[01:06] <greg-g> +1
[01:06] <MootBot> +1 received from greg-g. 2 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 2
[01:06] <cyphermox> +1
[01:06] <pleia2> +1
[01:06] <MootBot> +1 received from cyphermox. 3 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 3
[01:06] <Pendulum> +1
[01:06] <MootBot> +1 received from pleia2. 4 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 4
[01:06] <MootBot> +1 received from Pendulum. 5 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 5
[01:06] <greg-g> [endvote]
[01:06] <MootBot> Final result is 5 for, 0 against. 0 abstained. Total: 5
[01:06] <pleia2> congrats and welcome skaet! :)
[01:06] <greg-g> congrats and welcome aboard, skaet !
[01:06] <cyphermox> congrats skaet  :)
[01:06] <skaet> Thanks!   :D
[01:06] <beuno> congrats skaet
[01:06] <highvoltage> welcome skaet!
[01:06] <charlie-tca> Congratulations, skaet. You earned it!
[01:06] <Pendulum> welcome and congrats skaet!
[01:07] <tiagoscd> congrats skaet :)
[01:07] <beuno> I was +1, for the record  :)
[01:07] <skaet> looking forward to using that ubuntu id next week ;)
[01:07] <julianarmando> Congratulations, skaet
[01:07] <greg-g> skaet: oh heck yeah! :)
[01:07] <greg-g> beuno: :P
[01:07] <skaet> *blush*
[01:07] <Emerling> skaet,  congratulations
[01:07] <greg-g> alright, tiagoscd, you're up! :)
[01:07] <greg-g> [topic] tiagoscd
[01:07] <MootBot> New Topic:  tiagoscd
[01:07] <tiagoscd> well, lets go
[01:07] <tiagoscd> hello
[01:07] <tiagoscd> i live in Brazil and i'm studying information systems
[01:08] <tiagoscd> i started with free software in 2004, using Slackware Linux
[01:08] <tiagoscd> in 2006, i had the first contact with Ubuntu, like you can see at wiki pag
[01:08] <tiagoscd> according launchpad, i'm one of top contributors of brazilian portuguese language
[01:08] <tiagoscd> i think that informations present on the wiki page are more detailed :)
[01:08] <tiagoscd> thats it!
[01:09] <greg-g> awesome
[01:09] <greg-g> pardon me while I poke around your wiki and LP pages a bit :)
[01:10] <tiagoscd> greg-g, ok
[01:10] <tiagoscd> i was indicated by Andre_Gondim as coordinatr on ubuntu-sc loco team this month
[01:10] <pleia2> tiagoscd: have you been part of any events with the Brazilian team?
[01:10] <greg-g> tiagoscd: how do you plan on making your LoCo better and attracting more members?
[01:10] <beuno> tiagoscd, where's the Ubuntu-SC LoCo team from?
[01:10] <tiagoscd> last year, i talked about ubuntu in a popular regional congress, called solisc (http://www.solisc.org.br)
[01:11] <tiagoscd> greg-g, to support ubuntu here i pretend to promote flisol events at santa catarina state, as well making events to divulgate the OS and the ubuntu-br team
[01:11] <tiagoscd> beuno, from Santa Catarina state
[01:11] <tiagoscd> a state in the south of brazil
[01:11]  * beuno notes that "pretend" in spanish and portugues  means "intend"
[01:12] <greg-g> beuno: thanks :)
[01:12] <tiagoscd> beuno, tks
[01:12] <pleia2> tiagoscd: great wiki page :)
[01:12] <tiagoscd> pleia2, thanks :)
[01:13] <greg-g> well, I think we're ready
[01:13] <greg-g> [vote] tiagoscd
[01:13] <MootBot> Please vote on:  tiagoscd.
[01:13] <MootBot> Public votes can be registered by saying +1/-1/+0 in the channel, private votes by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0  to MootBot
[01:13] <MootBot> E.g. /msg MootBot +1 #ubuntu-meeting
[01:13] <maco> +1
[01:13] <MootBot> +1 received from maco. 1 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 1
[01:13] <greg-g> +1
[01:13] <Pendulum> +1
[01:13] <MootBot> +1 received from greg-g. 2 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 2
[01:13] <MootBot> +1 received from Pendulum. 3 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 3
[01:13] <pleia2> +1
[01:13] <MootBot> +1 received from pleia2. 4 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 4
[01:13] <cyphermox> +1
[01:13] <MootBot> +1 received from cyphermox. 5 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 5
[01:13] <beuno> +1
[01:13] <MootBot> +1 received from beuno. 6 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 6
[01:13] <greg-g> [endvote]
[01:13] <MootBot> Final result is 6 for, 0 against. 0 abstained. Total: 6
[01:13] <beuno> \o/  welcome tiagoscd
[01:13] <tiagoscd> wow, very nice o/
[01:13] <greg-g> congrats and welcome, tiagoscd !
[01:13] <pleia2> congrats tiagoscd!
[01:13] <tiagoscd> tks
[01:13] <charlie-tca> Congratulations, tiagoscd
[01:13] <Pendulum> welcome tiagoscd!
[01:14] <Emerling> tiagoscd, felcitaciones
[01:14] <julianarmando> Congratulations tiagoscd :)
[01:14] <greg-g> alright, you're up, cmmtessier! :)
[01:14] <cmmtessier> hello
[01:14] <greg-g> [topic] cmmtessier
[01:14] <MootBot> New Topic:  cmmtessier
[01:14] <cyphermox> tiagoscd, welcome, and keep up the good work!
[01:14] <cmmtessier> I'm with the Ubuntu Vancouver LoCo
[01:14] <cmmtessier> here's my wiki: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/charlenetessier
[01:14] <tiagoscd> tks all for this!!
[01:15] <greg-g> tiagoscd: :) you're very welcome
[01:15] <cmmtessier> sorry here the correct link
[01:15] <cmmtessier> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CharleneTessier
[01:15] <pleia2> wow, I had no idea the Vancouver LoCo was doing all this
[01:16] <greg-g> cmmtessier: intersting, you guys are doing advocacy at the farmer's market?
[01:16] <cmmtessier> yes- we do face to face marketing
[01:16] <beuno> cmmtessier, you seem to have an impresive track record there, both in amount of work and creativity
[01:16] <pleia2> cmmtessier: do you have a link to the NURG?
[01:16] <cmmtessier> asking people what is ubuntu and if they know anything about the community
[01:16] <cyphermox> cmmtessier, just curious, I haven't seen you in the #ubuntu-ca channel, (and honestly haven't really checked the mailing lists so much), do you have plans in collaborating with people from other cities in ubuntu-ca for organizing events and such?
[01:17] <greg-g> oh, you worked on the gwibber social networking guide? awesome!
[01:17] <cmmtessier> I'll get you a link to the NURG
[01:18] <cmmtessier> my focus hasn't been in chat - it has many be face to face marketing. We do have a delegate that participates in the ubuntu-ca irc channel. However I'm not that delegate
[01:18] <greg-g> cmmtessier: that's quite alright :) not everyone can do IRC
[01:18] <cyphermox> cmmtessier, fair enough, i understand some aren't so much up to IRC :)
[01:18] <maco> face-to-face is good :)  people on irc *already* know about ubuntu!
[01:19] <cmmtessier> exactly - I really like to get the word out to those that haven't heard of Ubuntu
[01:19] <maco> cmmtessier: just wondering for logistics type stuff...does it cost y'all anything to have a table at the farmers market?  (my loco goes to a folk festival)
[01:20] <maco> (this is unrelated to my vote, i'm just curious)
[01:20] <cmmtessier> It cost less than $100 for the season
[01:20] <maco> oh nice
[01:20] <greg-g> not bad
[01:20] <maco> it costs us $100 for the one *day* at the folk festival!
[01:21] <greg-g> so, I think the board is ready (and just a reminder folks, only board members vote, please :) )
[01:21] <cmmtessier> we are planning to hit some festivals if the price point is right but we do have some free festivals we can enter into.
[01:21] <greg-g> [vote] cmmtessier
[01:21] <MootBot> Please vote on:  cmmtessier.
[01:21] <MootBot> Public votes can be registered by saying +1/-1/+0 in the channel, private votes by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0  to MootBot
[01:21] <MootBot> E.g. /msg MootBot +1 #ubuntu-meeting
[01:21] <maco> +1
[01:21] <MootBot> +1 received from maco. 1 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 1
[01:21] <cyphermox> +1
[01:21] <MootBot> +1 received from cyphermox. 2 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 2
[01:21] <greg-g> +1
[01:21] <pleia2> +1
[01:21] <MootBot> +1 received from greg-g. 3 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 3
[01:21] <Pendulum> +1
[01:21] <MootBot> +1 received from pleia2. 4 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 4
[01:21] <MootBot> +1 received from Pendulum. 5 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 5
[01:22]  * greg-g pokes beuno 
[01:22] <beuno> er
[01:22] <beuno> +1
[01:22] <beuno> of course
[01:22] <MootBot> +1 received from beuno. 6 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 6
[01:22] <greg-g> [endvote]
[01:22] <MootBot> Final result is 6 for, 0 against. 0 abstained. Total: 6
[01:22] <beuno> (sorry, tests passed \o/)
[01:22] <pleia2> great work cmmtessier, welcome!
[01:22] <greg-g> congrats and welcome, cmmtessier ! Keep up the great work!
[01:22] <Pendulum> congrats cmmtessier!
[01:22] <cmmtessier> Thank you
[01:22] <tiagoscd> congrats cmmtessier =)
[01:22] <charlie-tca> Congratulations, cmmtessier
[01:22] <IngForigua> cmmtessier: great
[01:22] <maco> cmmtessier: by the way, if you ever do decide to hang out on irc a bit, give #ubuntu-women a visit
[01:22] <julianarmando> Congratulations :)
[01:22] <greg-g> alrighty, ElWuilMeR, you ready?
[01:22] <Emerling> cmmtessier,  :d congrat..
[01:22] <cmmtessier> will do thanks!
[01:23] <Pendulum> cmmtessier: and #ubuntu-women-project ;-)
[01:23] <cyphermox> very cool, look forward to hearing more about the vancouver loco and probably show up there at some point :)
[01:23] <IngForigua> good luck ElWuilMeR
[01:23] <ElWuilMeR> greg-g, Si/Yes
[01:23] <greg-g> [topic] ElWuilMeR
[01:23] <MootBot> New Topic:  ElWuilMeR
[01:23] <highvoltage> what a nick :)
[01:23] <greg-g> please introduce yourself, ElWuilMeR  :)
[01:24] <ElWuilMeR> Well my name is Wuilmer Bolivar
[01:24] <ElWuilMeR> I have 21 years, recently completed on April 2, the version of ubuntu with which was started with 10.04, was a CD I ordered in Canonical and after 3 months was when I got it installed and started to upgrade to version 10.10, for not knowing how to use it started to look for information in this reach the channel # ubuntu-irc is where a lot pasiencia helped me resolve my doubts, I stay on channel added to favorite since then I belong to
[01:24] <ElWuilMeR>  the group, enter the team as an official member a few days, and started to help in the same way I helped myself.
[01:26] <ElWuilMeR> I currently participate in:
[01:27] <ElWuilMeR> Team: ubuntu-ve
[01:27] <ElWuilMeR> Mi wiki: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WuilmerBolivar
[01:27] <ElWuilMeR> Launchpad: https://launchpad.net/~elwuilmer
[01:27] <ElWuilMeR> Collaborate in:
[01:28] <ElWuilMeR> Reporte de bugs:
[01:28] <ElWuilMeR> https://bugs.launchpad.net/~elwuilmer
[01:28] <ElWuilMeR> Respondiendo preguntas en answers:
[01:28] <ElWuilMeR> https://answers.launchpad.net/~elwuilmer
[01:28] <greg-g> ElWuilMeR: awesome, do you have anyone who knows your work that is an ubuntu member already? (just curious)
[01:28] <Emerling> Friends,  pleia2 ,beuno, Hello, Greetings, I'm here to give support to ElWuilMeR is a great help in everything related to ubuntu-ve team
[01:29] <ElWuilMeR> greg-g, Emerling
[01:29] <pleia2> Emerling: do the CharlasIrc classes happen in #ubuntu-charlas or a -ve channel?
[01:29] <pleia2> thanks Emerling
[01:30] <Emerling> you welcome, yes he is god and tutorial video
[01:30] <Emerling> and byour blogs page and manual documents
[01:31] <greg-g> sorry, sometimes we (the board) are quiet in here when we are reading all the documentation/pages on the applicant :)
[01:31] <greg-g> yeah, I liked seeing the youtube video :)
[01:31] <pleia2> err
[01:31] <pleia2> ElWuilMeR: do the CharlasIrc classes happen in #ubuntu-charlas or a -ve channel?
[01:31] <pleia2> darn tab :)
[01:31] <beuno> ElWuilMeR, so, what interests you about Ubuntu specifically?
[01:32]  * IngForigua gives a strong support to ElWuilMeR
[01:32] <greg-g> thanks much, IngForigua :)
[01:32] <IngForigua> a good participation in venezuela
[01:32] <ElWuilMeR> pleia2, in #ubuntu-ve junto a IngForigua e SergioMeneses
[01:32] <Emerling> he participed en irc ubuntu-ve channel
[01:33] <ElWuilMeR> beuno, I was struck by his organization, the way it works and I would like to be part of it and help more people to join.
[01:34] <greg-g> alrighty, I think we're ready to vote
[01:34] <greg-g> [vote] ElWuilMeR
[01:34] <MootBot> Please vote on:  ElWuilMeR.
[01:34] <MootBot> Public votes can be registered by saying +1/-1/+0 in the channel, private votes by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0  to MootBot
[01:34] <MootBot> E.g. /msg MootBot +1 #ubuntu-meeting
[01:34] <beuno> +1
[01:34] <MootBot> +1 received from beuno. 1 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 1
[01:34] <pleia2> +1
[01:34] <MootBot> +1 received from pleia2. 2 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 2
[01:34] <greg-g> +1
[01:34] <Pendulum> +1
[01:34] <MootBot> +1 received from greg-g. 3 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 3
[01:34] <MootBot> +1 received from Pendulum. 4 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 4
[01:34] <MootBot> Private +1 vote received. 5 for, 0 against, 0 have abstained. Count is now 5
[01:34] <cyphermox> +1
[01:35] <MootBot> +1 received from cyphermox. 6 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 6
[01:35] <greg-g> [endvote]
[01:35] <MootBot> Final result is 6 for, 0 against. 0 abstained. Total: 6
[01:35] <greg-g> congrats and welcome, ElWuilMeR ! :)
[01:35] <maco> +1
[01:35]  * IngForigua gives a bigggggggg beer to ElWuilMeR
[01:35] <Pendulum> congrats ElWuilMeR!
[01:35] <maco> oops i missed :P
[01:35] <julianarmando> Congrats
[01:35] <beuno> bienvenido ElWuilMeR   :)
[01:35] <charlie-tca> Congratulations, ElWuilMeR
[01:35] <Emerling> me debes 30 cervezs
[01:35] <pleia2> welcome ElWuilMeR :)
[01:35] <Emerling> felciidades amigo
[01:35] <highvoltage> welcome ElWuilMeR!
[01:35] <greg-g> maco: oh, my bad! :(
[01:35] <julianarmando> Felicidades :) Compañero
[01:35] <tiagoscd> boa sorte ElWuilMeR
[01:35] <Emerling> hace 7 mese digiste quieroser el nuevo ubuntu memebr en venezuela
[01:35] <abr4xas> ElWuilMeR, felicidades!! :D
[01:35] <Emerling> y lo lograste
[01:36] <greg-g> ready to go jjohansen ?
[01:36] <jjohansen> yeha
[01:36] <greg-g> [topic] jjohansen
[01:36] <MootBot> New Topic:  jjohansen
[01:36] <IngForigua> buena papa que viva suramerica carajo!!!!!
[01:36] <jjohansen> Hi I am John Johansen, I have been kicking around Ubuntu for a while, since about Gutsy (blame Kees).  I am an upstream dev for the AppArmor project and for the last 2 years I have been on the Kernel team.
[01:36] <jjohansen> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JohnJohansen
[01:36] <ElWuilMeR> greg-g, Pendulum, IngForigua, beuno, charlie-tca, pleia2, julianarmando, tiagoscd Muchas gracias a todos....
[01:36] <jjohansen> oops s/yeha/yeah/
[01:36] <greg-g> ElWuilMeR: you are very welcome, thank YOU for all of your great work!
[01:36] <jjohansen> :)
[01:37] <greg-g> jjohansen: ahh, any friend of Kees.... :)
[01:37] <jjohansen> hehe :)
[01:37] <jjohansen> he does have a way of roping people in
[01:38] <kees> :)
[01:38] <pleia2> jjohansen: how long have you been working on AppArmor?
[01:38] <greg-g> oh, he's here ;)
[01:38] <jjohansen> pleia2: on and off for 7 years
[01:38] <pleia2> wow, nice :)
[01:39] <jjohansen> was doing some gcc compiler hardening work for a while in there too
[01:39] <greg-g> jjohansen: handwriting recognition? how's that going?
[01:40] <jjohansen> ah slow its a project I started back in grad school, and it keeps getting preempted by work and life
[01:40] <jjohansen> I don't think I have worked on it in 2 years
[01:40] <jjohansen> I gave a presentation on it about 3.5 years ago
[01:41] <jjohansen> at a labs conference in prague but it isn't working atm
[01:41] <greg-g> cool, sounds interesting, at least
[01:41]  * maco wishes lp's karma page went further back. you filled it up with the last week!
[01:41] <jjohansen> yeah its an interesting field, patent mindfield though
[01:42] <jjohansen> hehe there have been a few bugs in the last couple weeks
[01:42] <Pendulum> kees: I assume you're here to support jjohansen?
[01:43] <kees> Pendulum: yup!
[01:43] <Pendulum> jjohansen: anyone else around to cheer for you? (I have to admit that I was disappointed by the lack of testimonials on your wiki)
[01:43] <charlie-tca> Even though I have had time to do a written testamonial, I have watched jjohansen work with the kernel and in bugs for a long time. He really does a fantastic job at it. I recommend him highly for membership.
[01:43] <mdeslaur> I am here to cheer jjohansen!
[01:43] <pleia2> thanks kees, charlie-tca :)
[01:43] <Pendulum> thanks!
[01:43]  * cyphermox is ready to vote
[01:43]  * sbeattie is also here to cheer jjohansen!
[01:44] <greg-g> alright, here we go
[01:44] <maco> oh *now* they come out of the woodwork :P
[01:44] <greg-g> [vote] jjohansen
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[01:44] <greg-g> [endvote]
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[01:44] <greg-g> oh right, beuno passes on canonical folks :)
[01:44]  * beuno abstains because jjohansen is a..
[01:44] <beuno> right  :)
[01:45] <greg-g> congrats and welcome aboard, jjohansen !
[01:45] <jjohansen> thanks
[01:45] <pleia2> just a reminder, voting is for board members :)
[01:45] <beuno> jjohansen, but you seem to have earned it very well  :)
[01:45] <pleia2> congrats and welcome, jjohansen!
[01:45] <greg-g> (friendly remind......yep)
[01:45] <tiagoscd> welcome jjohansen o/
[01:45] <Emerling> jjohansen,  congratulations
[01:45] <mdeslaur> congrats jjohansen!
[01:45] <charlie-tca> Congratulations, jjohansen. About time, too :-)
[01:45] <IngForigua> gratz
[01:45] <micahg> congrats jjohansen
[01:45] <julianarmando> Congratulations
[01:45] <Pendulum> congrats jjohansen!
[01:45] <jjohansen> thanks again everyone
[01:45] <greg-g> alright, julianarmando, are you ready to go?
[01:45] <julianarmando> Yeah
[01:45] <greg-g> [topic] julianarmando
[01:45] <MootBot> New Topic:  julianarmando
[01:46] <julianarmando> Hi everyone
[01:46] <IngForigua> good luck my friend :D
[01:46] <greg-g> hello :)
[01:46] <julianarmando> my name is Julian Bohorquez (julianarmando) I am a student of engineering system, currently in 4th semester. I'm from Colombia, a city named Ibagué. This is my Wiki: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/julianarmando. This is my page on Launchpad https://launchpad.net/~julianarmando
[01:46] <julianarmando> Thanks IngForigua
[01:46] <julianarmando> My first acquaintance with ubuntu happens when I attend a talk, which gave away CDs of Ubuntu 5.10 in 2006
[01:47] <julianarmando> I am currently a member of Ubuntu-Co community, contributed to the moderation of the main mailing list Ubuntu-Co. Contributed with lectures on Ubuntu and Ubuntu Server. I contribute to my current project to restore the "Podcast Ubuntu-Co" and with my proposal for constant monitoring practice processes within the community.
[01:47]  * beuno spots all the microsoft coursed over the last few years and giggles
[01:47] <julianarmando> I am preparing for certification in Prometric as LPI 101 and UCP (Ubuntu Certified Professional exam) :)
[01:47]  * IngForigua Hi, I'm IngForigua https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ingforigua, I'm member of the ubuntu Colombia council (one of the most active localteam in suramerica), I give my full support for Julian to ubuntu membership
[01:48] <cyphermox> oh nice, member of the columbian team ;)
[01:48] <julianarmando> I know and work with Ubuntu since 7.10 and I have attended and organized several events around the free software, which has spread like Ubuntu: FLISOL (http://ibague.flisol.info), (http://ubuntu-co.com/node/972),  DELM and the Campus Party Colombia
[01:48] <greg-g> is there a link for the podcast?
[01:49] <julianarmando> yeah, but is in charge of another person at this time
[01:49] <julianarmando> the project is stopped
[01:49]  * Emerling I am Ubuntu member, in Loco Venezuela Team , and I know about owner in ubuntu-irc colombian team, in important mmetings  for julianarmando 
[01:49] <greg-g> gotcha
[01:50] <greg-g> awesome, thanks IngForigua and Emerling :)
[01:50] <IngForigua> the podcast is one of the proyects in colombia we now work hard for ubuntu.shapado.com
[01:50] <julianarmando> My main project for the diffusion of Ubuntu 11.4 is give a lecture entitled (Ubuntu 11.4 - Command Line, Features and Community Ubuntu Colombia),  (Introduction to Free Software, Virtual Machines and the Ubuntu distribution - Ibagué, Colombia – 2011) and  (Introduction to Web Servers and Web Programming. (Ubuntu Server and programming with software open source)) the three conferences were issued in the university whe
[01:50] <IngForigua> http://ubuntu.shapado.com/
[01:50] <MootBot> LINK received:  http://ubuntu.shapado.com/
[01:52] <beuno> julianarmando, so, what does the future look like for you?
[01:53] <julianarmando> the future is to spread Ubuntu by lectures. talking to people and participating in events.
[01:53] <pleia2> that's great, very important work :)
[01:53] <julianarmando> I'd like to start a process of documentation of Ubuntu Video
[01:53] <greg-g> alright, i think we're ready.. (done with the meeting within an hour?! crazy!)
[01:53] <greg-g> [vote] julianarmando
[01:53] <MootBot> Please vote on:  julianarmando.
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[01:53] <julianarmando> Contribute to the Ubuntu-co.com page and the wiki
[01:53] <pleia2> +1
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[01:54] <cyphermox> impressive work
[01:54] <greg-g> congrats and welcome, julianarmando !
[01:54] <pleia2> congrats and welcome julianarmando!
[01:54] <cyphermox> congrats julianarmando
[01:54] <IngForigua> jajajajaja cerveza para todos carajo!!!! viva colombia y venezuela!!!!!!
[01:54] <julianarmando> thank you very much
[01:54] <greg-g> :)
[01:54] <Pendulum> congrats julianarmando!
[01:54] <beuno> bienvenido julianarmando!  :)
[01:54] <julianarmando> gracias a todos :)
[01:54] <Emerling> party
[01:54] <greg-g> IngForigua++
[01:54] <ElWuilMeR> IngForigua, jajajaja que viva...!!!
[01:54] <Emerling> latinoamerica
[01:54] <tiagoscd> congrats julianarmando!
[01:55] <Emerling> felciidades julianarmando
[01:55] <IngForigua> Emerling: yeahhhhhh!!!!!!!
[01:55] <julianarmando> thanks to all
[01:55] <julianarmando> gracias Emerling :D gracias a todos
[01:55] <ElWuilMeR> congrats julianarmando! Bienvenidos, un gran dia para Venezuela y Colombia hoy :D
[01:55] <greg-g> thanks everyone for coming and congratulation to all the new members!
[01:55] <greg-g> #endmeeting
[01:55] <MootBot> Meeting finished at 19:55.
[01:56] <beuno> thanks everyone, it was a great turnout!
[01:56] <pleia2> thanks everyone!
[01:56] <maco> Wow, 6 new members in less than 60 minutes
[01:56] <IngForigua> maco: xD
[01:56] <IngForigua> thank every1
[01:57] <IngForigua> byeeee
[01:57] <highvoltage> clearly the americas board is in top form :)
[01:57] <tiagoscd> :)
[02:05] <charlie-tca> Congratulations, julianarmando
[16:00]  * skaet waves
[16:01]  * joshuahoover waves
[16:01] <ogasawara> o/
[16:01] <dbarth> hi skaet
[16:01] <skaet> cool well there will be a few folk around...  so lets start
[16:02] <skaet> #startmeeting
[16:02] <MootBot> Meeting started at 10:02. The chair is skaet.
[16:02] <MootBot> Commands Available: [TOPIC], [IDEA], [ACTION], [AGREED], [LINK], [VOTE]
[16:02] <skaet> [Topic] Natty overview - skaet_
[16:02] <skaet> Reminder:   please use ".." on separate line when you've finished typing.   If someone wants to comment during the updates, please "o/", so we know to wait.
[16:02] <skaet> .
[16:02] <MootBot> New Topic:  Natty overview - skaet_
[16:02] <skaet> A big THANK YOU to all the teams for the hard work so far on the release.
[16:02] <skaet> Release is looking MUCH better than it was a month ago - well done!  :)
[16:02] <skaet> .
[16:02] <skaet> Images are functionally complete at this point, except for the language packs and docs which will be updated in tomorrow's images.
[16:02] <skaet> .
[16:02] <skaet> We've got several 0-day SRU's lined up, for those fixes which couldn't make it in time.
[16:02] <skaet> If you see any issues come up, that you're worried about in the testing, please flag it in #ubuntu-testing,  and/or #ubuntu-release.
[16:03] <skaet> any overall questions before we get into round table?
[16:03] <skaet> reminder of course that release is 4/28 ;)
[16:04] <skaet> ok,  lets head in to round table.
[16:04] <skaet> [Topic] QA team update -  jibel
[16:04] <MootBot> New Topic:  QA team update -  jibel
[16:04] <jibel> Hi all o/
[16:04] <skaet> hi jibel,  how's it looking?
[16:04] <jibel> last week dbarth asked a question about the bootchart so lets start with it.
[16:05] <jibel> here is the trend
[16:05] <jibel> http://people.canonical.com/~j-lallement/NattyBootchartMetrics.png
[16:05] <MootBot> LINK received:  http://people.canonical.com/~j-lallement/NattyBootchartMetrics.png
[16:05] <jibel> We can see a peak 1 month ago, and boot time back to normal with an average boot time of 27 seconds starting from the beginning of april. Data for this week are not shown in this graph but are available at http://people.canonical.com/~brian/daily-bootcharts/ and show no regression compared to the previous week.
[16:05] <jibel> * Testing Status
[16:05] <jibel>  * Automatic Upgrade Testing mostly white
[16:05] <jibel> http://people.canonical.com/~mvo/automatic-upgrade-testing/current/
[16:05] <MootBot> LINK received:  http://people.canonical.com/~mvo/automatic-upgrade-testing/current/
[16:05] <jibel>  * Desktop Testing:
[16:05] <jibel> * No new bug found. All the high importance bugs found are fixed.
[16:06] <jibel> * Natty Final Candidates Smoke Test
[16:06] <jibel> * Upgrades:
[16:06] <jibel>   * Ubuntu Desktop and Server/Wubi/Kubuntu i386/amd64: Passed
[16:06] <jibel>   * Xubuntu: ongoing
[16:06] <jibel> * Install:
[16:06] <jibel>   * Wubi i386/amd64: Passed
[16:06] <jibel>   * Ubuntu Desktop i386/amd64: Passed
[16:06] <jibel>   * Ubuntu Desktop i386/amd64: Passed
[16:06] <jibel>   * Ubuntu Alternate i386/amd64: Passed
[16:06] <jibel>   * Ubuntu Server i386/amd64: Passed
[16:06] <jibel>   * Xubuntu Desktop i386/amd64: Passed
[16:06] <jibel>   * Kubuntu Live Session marked as failed with 2 serious bugs.
[16:06] <jibel> Needs verification.
[16:06] <jibel> bug 557261
[16:06] <jibel> bug 656486
[16:07] <jibel> * update-manager release upgrade review:
[16:07] <jibel> 1 bug found and fixed: bug 760713
[16:07] <jibel> main issue reported: people who install xorg-edger PPA can't upgrade (and it is expected). The fix is to run ppa-purge before the upgrade.
[16:07] <jibel> Other bug that needs attention:
[16:07] <jibel> bug 738555
[16:07] <jibel> we would like an answer to bdmurray's questions
[16:08] <jibel> and finally
[16:08] <jibel> * QA Dashboard
[16:08] <jibel> http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/qadashboard/qadashboard.html
[16:08] <jibel> linux, unity, compiz and banshee are in both last day and last 7 days top 5
[16:08] <MootBot> LINK received:  http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/qadashboard/qadashboard.html
[16:08] <jibel> ..
[16:08] <skaet> thanks jibel!
[16:09] <skaet> Looks like we're in reasonable shape overall, with a couple of areas of concern to keep an eye on.
[16:09] <GrueMaster> I'm seeing a failure in oem-config-debconf on armel headless images.  Debugging now.
[16:10] <skaet> jibel,  I'll digest the details and get back to you after the meeting.
[16:10] <jibel> k
[16:11] <skaet> GrueMaster,  thanks for flagging.   Please keep me informed of the results from today's debugging.
[16:11] <GrueMaster> I should know more  in an hour.
[16:11] <skaet> GrueMaster, cool.   Are the other arm images affected or is it just headless?
[16:12] <GrueMaster> I have netbook inatalling on another platform now.  No failures yet.
[16:12] <skaet> coolio
[16:12] <ScottK> Since we know there will be a respin tomorrow for language packs, is it OK to accept other changes in the queue for significant bug fixes?
[16:13] <skaet> ScottK,  yes, if it is fixing significant bugs - however please consider if zero day update will work as well.
[16:14] <ScottK> I've been telling people to upload to -proposed, but there are a few things in the queue that might be worth getting in.
[16:14] <ScottK> As a reminder: Unseeded Universe/Multiverse is still open for uploads.
[16:14] <skaet> ScottK,  trying to keep scope of impact changes down right now.   Do you have candidates in mind?  if so,  lets talk about it on #u-release after meeting?
[16:14] <ScottK> OK.
[16:15] <skaet> any other questions for jibel?
[16:15] <skaet> is there any one around from hardware certification?
[16:16] <skaet> [Topic] Security team update - jdstrand
[16:16] <MootBot> New Topic:  Security team update - jdstrand
[16:16] <jdstrand> hi
[16:16] <skaet> hi
[16:16] <jdstrand> [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/ReleaseStatus/Natty
[16:16] <MootBot> LINK received:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/ReleaseStatus/Natty
[16:16] <jdstrand> [LINK] http://people.canonical.com/~platform/workitems/natty/canonical-security.html
[16:16] <MootBot> LINK received:  http://people.canonical.com/~platform/workitems/natty/canonical-security.html
[16:16] <jdstrand> Last week we fixed a few apparmor profiling bugs.
[16:16] <jdstrand> Also performed our install audits. Only interesting change between maverick and natty is that if you install the print server task on a server install, you get avahi-daemon, which pulls in dbus (which is a lot of new code and bigger attack surface). aiui, his was added so OS X could find Ubuntu printers (465916). Brought up to server team.
[16:17] <jdstrand> We uploaded a few security fixes, but are now queueing up non-critical updates in our security ppa.
[16:17] <jdstrand> For oneiric it might be interesting to not build CDs with the assumption that -proposed, -updates and -security are empty. aiui, right now that is the case (correct me if I'm wrong). If we build CDs without those pockets, developers can start queuing these things for 0-day updates instead of trying to cram last minute things into the release.
[16:17] <jdstrand> ..
[16:17] <skaet> thanks jdstrand!
[16:18] <skaet> glad things are looking reasonably calm for the release.  :)
[16:18] <ScottK> jdstrand: Normally we just let them sit in unapproved until we're _sure_ we have the final images.
[16:18] <ScottK> No reason to delay uploading to -proposed.
[16:18] <jdstrand> ScottK: yes, which works for -proposed (I noticed yesterday). does that work for -security too?
[16:18] <ScottK> No idea.
[16:19] <skaet> jdstrand, ScottK - topic area for UDS?
[16:19] <ScottK> skaet: I think part of a slightly larger topic.  Let's discuss after.
[16:19] <jdstrand> skaet: it could certainly be added as a discussion point, it would not take too long though :)
[16:20] <skaet> ScottK, jdstrand - sounds good.  :)   Will talk about it later.
[16:20] <skaet> any other questions for jdstrand?
[16:20] <skaet> [Topic] Kernel team update - ogasawara
[16:20] <MootBot> New Topic:  Kernel team update - ogasawara
[16:20] <ogasawara> Overall status is reported at the first link below.  Burn down for the release milestone is at the second link below.  Burndown for the cycle is at the third link:
[16:20] <ogasawara> [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/ReleaseStatus/Natty
[16:20] <ogasawara> [LINK] http://people.canonical.com/~platform/workitems/natty/canonical-kernel-team-ubuntu-11.04.html
[16:20] <ogasawara> [LINK] http://people.canonical.com/~platform/workitems/natty/canonical-kernel-team.svg
[16:20] <MootBot> LINK received:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/ReleaseStatus/Natty
[16:20] <MootBot> LINK received:  http://people.canonical.com/~platform/workitems/natty/canonical-kernel-team-ubuntu-11.04.html
[16:20] <MootBot> LINK received:  http://people.canonical.com/~platform/workitems/natty/canonical-kernel-team.svg
[16:20] <ogasawara> We have very few specific work items left, mostly non-release related and no remaining task is release criticial.  The Natty kernel remains at v2.6.38-8.42 which represents the v2.6.38.2 mainline stable update.  We do not intend to upload a newer kernel before release.  As a result, we're already queueing bug fixes and a v2.6.38.3 stable patch set for the first kernel SRU.  We have no plans for a day-0 kernel upload at t
[16:20] <ogasawara> his time and will target our first kernel SRU 1-2 weeks post release.
[16:21] <ogasawara> Of the bugs called out on the agenda, we've properly milestoned each to either natty-updates or re-targetted to Oneiric.  Specific details are as follows:
[16:21] <ogasawara> #542660 still present, needs deeper debug; milestoned to natty-updates.
[16:21] <ogasawara> #608312 kernel dev working on patches; milestoned to natty-updates.
[16:21] <ogasawara> #625364 no longer an issue for the original bug reporter.  Closed Fix Released.
[16:21] <ogasawara> #634487 kernel dev able to reproduce, currently under further investigation; milestoned to natty-updates.
[16:21] <ogasawara> #674984 fixed with latest kernel; Closed Fix Released.
[16:21] <ogasawara> #686388 patches available, awaiting test results; milestoned to natty-updates.
[16:21] <ogasawara> #708286 currently under investigation; milestoned to natty-updates.
[16:21] <ogasawara> #710738 Fix Committed, will land in first kernel SRU; milestoned to natty-updates.
[16:21] <ogasawara> #712075 problem remains with the latest kernels, needs further investigation; milestoned to natty-updates.
[16:21] <ogasawara> #719620 suspected BIOS issue, awaiting testing with BIOS update; milestoned to natty-updates to keep it on the radar.
[16:21] <ogasawara> #735126 Fix Committed, will land in first kernel SRU; milestoned to natty-updates.
[16:21] <ogasawara> #746924 needs further investigation; re-targetted to Oneiric.
[16:21] <ogasawara> #747090 Fix Committed, will land in first kernel SRU; milestoned to natty-updates.
[16:21] <ogasawara> #751689 appears to be more of a BIOS issue, but might be possible to quirk around in the kernel.  further investigation needed; milestoned to natty-updates.
[16:21] <ogasawara> #754711 currently under investigation; milestoned to natty-updates.
[16:21] <ogasawara> #754712 currently under investigation and awaiting feedback from reporter; milestoned to natty-updates.
[16:21] <ogasawara> #758411 unreproducible at the moment; milestoned to natty-updates to keep it on the radar.
[16:21] <ogasawara> #761082 currently under investigation; milestoned to natty-updates.
[16:21] <ogasawara> Questions?
[16:21] <ogasawara> ..
[16:22] <skaet> Thanks ogasawara!
[16:22] <skaet> Glad to hear no zero day respins look necessary.  :)
[16:22] <ogasawara> knock on wood
[16:22]  * skaet knocks loudly on wood...
[16:23] <skaet> Will digest the above info on the bugs and get back to you offline if there are questions.
[16:23] <ogasawara> sounds good
[16:23] <skaet> Appreciate the fact that the bugs have been targetted to updates and Oneiric.  :)
[16:24] <skaet> any other questions for ogasawara ?
[16:24] <skaet> [Topic] Foundations team update -??
[16:24] <MootBot> New Topic:  Foundations team update -??
[16:25]  * skaet knows cjwatson and ev are on holiday today.   
[16:25] <skaet> anyone else around?
[16:25] <ScottK> 0/
[16:25] <skaet> yup ScottK
[16:26] <ScottK> For Kubuntu I think we are generally in good shape.  I see the current images are marked failed, but reading the bugs, they don't look Kubuntu specific.
[16:26] <ScottK> It would be really good if someone from foundations could at least verify they are/aren't a significant issue for release and the decided if they need to call someone in to fix them.
[16:26] <ScottK> ..
[16:27] <skaet> robbiew, ^^ ??
[16:27] <robbiew> skaet: ack
[16:28] <robbiew> slangasek, ^^^??
[16:28] <robbiew> :P
[16:28] <skaet> ScottK,  will take a pass at them too.  Do you have some specific numbers you can post at the end of this meeting?
[16:28] <robbiew> kidding...will look
[16:28] <skaet> robbiew,  1 more week...  lol
[16:28] <ScottK> skaet: They are the ones that QA reported earlier in the meeting.
[16:28]  * skaet nods
[16:28] <ScottK> bug 557261
[16:28] <ScottK> bug 656486
[16:29] <skaet> ok,  thanks.
[16:29]  * skaet will be going through the logs for a couple of hours today.
[16:29] <ScottK> Any other Kubuntu questions?
[16:29] <skaet> ScottK,  do the priorities look correct to you on those bugs, given they're causing tests to fail?
[16:30] <ScottK> skaet: I don't have an opinion on that.  My major concern is those aren't Kubuntu specific things, so they should affect all images.
[16:31] <skaet> ScottK,  hmm... if they're systemic,  they should probably be high.  Will look into later then.
[16:31] <ScottK> A lot of it depends on how important USB persistence is, for example.
[16:32]  * skaet nods
[16:32] <skaet> anyone else have questions for ScottK?
[16:32] <skaet> [Topic] Server team update - ??   robbiew?
[16:32] <MootBot> New Topic:  Server team update - ??   robbiew?
[16:32] <skaet> smoser?
[16:32] <robbiew> we're fine..ship it
[16:32] <skaet> :)
[16:32] <smoser>  i defer to the leader
[16:33] <skaet> smoser,  when will the images for UEC/EC2 be landing?
[16:34] <smoser> we have builds from today that we can use
[16:34] <skaet> will you need to be picking up the langpack updates?
[16:35] <smoser> http://uec-images.ubuntu.com/server/natty/20110422/ . i dont know about langpack updates, but i would assume that they're not relevant.  we dont explicitly install langpacks.
[16:35] <MootBot> LINK received:  http://uec-images.ubuntu.com/server/natty/20110422/ . i dont know about langpack updates, but i would assume that they're not relevant.  we dont explicitly install langpacks.
[16:35] <skaet> smoser,  cool.  you're in good shape then.   thanks.
[16:35] <smoser> http://uec-images.ubuntu.com/server/natty/20110422/natty-server-uec-amd64.manifest is the list of packages, check to see if the updated packages are in that list.
[16:35] <MootBot> LINK received:  http://uec-images.ubuntu.com/server/natty/20110422/natty-server-uec-amd64.manifest is the list of packages, check to see if the updated packages are in that list.
[16:36] <skaet> will do.
[16:36] <skaet> any other questions for smoser, robbiew?
[16:37] <skaet> [Topic] Desktop team update - ??  kenvandine?
[16:37] <MootBot> New Topic:  Desktop team update - ??  kenvandine?
[16:37]  * skaet looks around for any rep from desktop,  pitti is on vacation.
[16:37] <skaet> ok, moving on...
[16:38] <skaet> [Topic] Ubuntu One Team- joshuahoover
[16:38] <MootBot> New Topic:  Ubuntu One Team- joshuahoover
[16:38] <joshuahoover> [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOne/NattyReleaseStatus
[16:38] <MootBot> LINK received:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOne/NattyReleaseStatus
[16:38] <joshuahoover> all our high natty bugs that we wanted to get out for final are released
[16:38] <joshuahoover> we have some bugs that are going to be nominated for an sru after final release but none are important enough to rush...i'm continuing to review the list of candidates today
[16:38] <joshuahoover> and that is it
[16:38] <joshuahoover> --
[16:38] <skaet> Thanks joshuahoover!   very good to know.  :)
[16:38] <skaet> any questions?
[16:39] <kenvandine> skaet, sorry... pitti didn't ask me to cover so i didn't prepare :)
[16:39] <skaet> kenvandine,  no worries.   any overall impressions or concerns?
[16:39] <kenvandine> nope
[16:39] <kenvandine> :)
[16:39]  * kenvandine is happy
[16:39] <skaet> :)
[16:39]  * skaet is happy then too.
[16:39] <kenvandine> if you guys have questions for me, just let me know
[16:40] <kenvandine> i'll do my best to answer
[16:40]  * skaet looks around?   any questions?
[16:40] <sladen> I can dive in from a Design PoV;  everything now pushed back to SRU/0day (even if others would like sooner)
[16:40] <sladen> Design polish; all SRU-targetted rather than release.
[16:40] <sladen> #387828 - Compiz staticswitcher Alt-Tab minimised icons are over-scaled
[16:40] <sladen> #740864 - Light-Themes<->Gedit highlighting interaction (interate/reduce current patch)
[16:40] <sladen> #758753 - Dash: App and File search category headers show square icon with lense rather than star and scissors
[16:41] <sladen> #760656 - Launcher: disable built-in grey icon overlays
[16:41] <sladen> #767186 - nm-signal-* icons break nm-applet (spams ~/.xsession-errors)
[16:41] <sladen> #768583 - Onboard (on-screen keyboard): better constrast + Ubuntu theme
[16:41] <sladen> ..
[16:41] <skaet> thanks sladen.  :)
[16:43] <skaet> Will follow up with you off line about some of them, and what needs to be release note documented.
[16:43] <skaet> any questions for sladen?
[16:44] <skaet> ScottK gave us a bit of a summary earlier on Kubuntu,  anything more to add?   or any questions on Kubuntu?
[16:44] <skaet> [Topic] Desktop Experience Team Update - dbarth
[16:44] <MootBot> New Topic:  Desktop Experience Team Update - dbarth
[16:45] <dbarth> hi
[16:45] <skaet> hi
[16:45] <dbarth> the report is short
[16:45] <dbarth> it's here at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopExperienceTeam/NattyReleaseStatus#preview
[16:45] <dbarth> mainly we've sorted the 0day-sru candidates
[16:45] <dbarth> and moved all the rest to either srus or de-scoped for natty
[16:45] <dbarth> 0day sru candidates are at: https://launchpad.net/unity/+milestone/3.8.12
[16:46] <dbarth> there are 3 mostly
[16:46] <dbarth> #768178 - compiz crashed with SIGSEGV in nux::IOpenGLShaderProgram::Begin()
[16:46] <dbarth> #753971 - Display garbled upon restoring original resolution or connecting external displays
[16:46] <dbarth> #728927 - Unity Min,Max,Close buttons not available in Libreoffice
[16:46] <dbarth> the last one is a target opportunity, it can go as a normal sru
[16:47] <dbarth> the 2nd one is an HW cert team priority that we're still investigating
[16:47]  * skaet nods
[16:47] <dbarth> so will also probably slide to the SRU list
[16:47] <dbarth> the 1st one is the one worrying me
[16:47] <dbarth> i've checked that with didrocks and jibel this morning
[16:47] <dbarth> read https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/compiz/+bug/737792/comments/18
[16:48] <dbarth> basically, i feel it doesn't block the livecd from the reports we've got
[16:48] <dbarth> the action we've taken is to re-test the livecd on the HW where other related issues could be exposed more frequently
[16:48] <dbarth> and check if the issue is indeed a visual flicker (when compiz restarts)
[16:48] <dbarth> or if it ever can enter a longer loop
[16:49] <dbarth> we don't have any evidences about that problem turning into a loop
[16:49] <dbarth> and for the rest
[16:49] <dbarth> no other pending FFEs
[16:49] <skaet> :)
[16:49] <dbarth> and the SRU list is not too big
[16:49] <dbarth> ..
[16:50] <skaet> thanks dbarth!   and thank you to the team for all the hard work and bug fixes over the last few weeks!!
[16:50] <dbarth> thanks for all the support we have received from everyone here
[16:50] <dbarth> really appreciated
[16:51] <skaet> dbarth,  I think you and I will be talking a fair bit for the release notes next week.  What's you're availability?
[16:51] <dbarth> right
[16:51] <dbarth> all of those SRU candidates need at least to be documented
[16:51]  * skaet nods
[16:51] <dbarth> and we have a couple of workarounds that have been documented in the bug comments
[16:51] <dbarth> plus the 4th open item on the 0day-srus
[16:52] <dbarth> which i assigned to me, to update the HW reqs list (and the release notes that go with it)
[16:52] <skaet>  will you be online on monday?
[16:53] <dbarth> hmm, end of the afternoon yes, ie late for you in the morning
[16:53] <dbarth> i can prepare someting this week-end defeintely
[16:53] <dbarth> definetely
[16:53] <skaet> dbarth, I'll be in london next week,  so will look for you to compare notes on monday afternoon then.
[16:53] <skaet> anything you can get me over the weekend would be much appreciated.
[16:54] <dbarth> skaet: ok will do
[16:54] <skaet> feel free to just edit into technicalOverview if that's easiest.
[16:54] <dbarth> ok
[16:54] <skaet> I'll be scrubbing it down from beta2 and retargetting it for the release this afternoon.  :)
[16:54] <skaet> thanks!
[16:54] <skaet> any other questions for dbarth?
[16:54] <dbarth> ok
[16:55] <dbarth> skaet: send me a link please once you've made that first pass
[16:55] <skaet> dbarth, will do.
[16:56] <skaet> [Topic] ARM team update - ??   GrueMaster ?
[16:56] <MootBot> New Topic:  ARM team update - ??   GrueMaster ?
[16:56] <skaet> I think we got most of the status earlier,  so unless there are other questions will move on.
[16:56] <GrueMaster> oem-config on headless is not working.  It is crashing/restarting after probpting for the timezone.  Looking over the changelogs now.
[16:57] <GrueMaster> netbook appears to be working fine on omap4 so far.  Install went well without any glitches, and it is sitting at the desktop waiting for me to continue testing.
[16:58] <GrueMaster> There are some known bugs that will be SRU, but ogra has the list of what has and hasn't been fixed for release.
[16:59] <GrueMaster> Bug 651302 can be documented and fixed with SRU.  Bug 753071 is slated for SRU.
[17:00] <GrueMaster> As is bug 758486.
[17:01] <GrueMaster> There are probably others, but they can be documented/SRU fixed.  If I find any critical issues today, you'll hear my screems.  :P
[17:02] <skaet> GrueMaster,  thanks!   Glad to know you've got a loud voice.    Flag me if you get stalled at some point today on the OEM config issue.
[17:02] <skaet> any questions for GrueMaster ?
[17:02] <skaet> [Topic] MOTU team update - ScottK
[17:02] <MootBot> New Topic:  MOTU team update - ScottK
[17:03] <ScottK> Always more to do, but it seems like we're in pretty good shape.
[17:03] <ScottK> Unseeded Universe/Multiverse is still open for bug fixing, so please don't hold back.
[17:04] <ScottK> From here I'll try to leave one unseeded package in queue in case you need a package build to stimulate a publisher run.
[17:04] <ScottK> (need someone to upload one first though)
[17:04] <ScottK> ..
[17:04] <skaet> Thanks ScottK
[17:05] <skaet> sounds good re the unseeded package approach.
[17:05] <skaet> any one have questions?
[17:05] <skaet> [Topic] Linaro update - JamieBennett
[17:05] <MootBot> New Topic:  Linaro update - JamieBennett
[17:05] <skaet> JamieBen1ett, ^ ??
[17:06] <skaet> hmm,  not sure if he's around or not,  since holiday for him too.
[17:06] <skaet> [Topic] any other kudos/comments/questions?
[17:06] <MootBot> New Topic:  any other kudos/comments/questions?
[17:06] <rickspencer3> kudos! 11.04 is looking nice, and seems we have some time to validate
[17:07] <skaet> :)
[17:07] <rickspencer3> :)
[17:07] <skaet> Just wanted to say thank you again for all the hard work to get 11.04 out the door.
[17:08] <sladen> my kudos of the week goes to cjwatson for a single character fix to the 16-bit assembly loader code in grub2 that enabled memtest86 to work again
[17:08] <skaet> There will be no release meetings now, until after UDS,  at which point we'll start meeting to discuss Oneiric.
[17:09] <skaet> sladen,  re: cjwatson +1  :)
[17:09] <skaet> anyone else?
[17:09] <skaet> #endmeeting
[17:09] <MootBot> Meeting finished at 11:09.
[17:09] <skaet> Thanks all!
[17:10] <JasonO> skaet How do you get involved with this team? Test images?
[17:11] <JasonO> Arschloch
[17:11] <sladen> jjohansen: http://qa.ubuntu.com/testing/
[17:11] <sladen> JasonO: http://qa.ubuntu.com/testing/
[17:12] <JasonO> sladen Thank you.
[17:12] <jjohansen> sladen: nice to se that :)
[17:14] <skaet> jibel, ^^  JasonO's interested in helping out.  :)
[17:15] <jibel> JasonO, Welcome! join #ubuntu-testing
[17:15] <JasonO> jibel I am on the Ubuntu testing team.
[17:15] <JasonO> I think?
[17:16] <ScottK> Being on a team isn't a pre-requisite to doing testing.
[17:17] <JasonO> OKeu
[17:17] <JasonO> *okey