| skaet | ubuntu-desktop i386, amd64, amd64+mac images published for smoke test purposes | 00:57 |
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| skaet | full set of builds has started now, images should be emerging through the evening. | 00:58 |
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| skaet | jibel_, ^^ | 01:00 |
| Samsagax | nice | 01:01 |
| charlie-tca | Congratulations, new Ubuntu Member skaet | 01:11 |
| skaet | Thank you charlie-tca :) | 01:13 |
| highvoltage | well you deserve it | 01:17 |
| charlie-tca | +1 | 01:19 |
| * charlie-tca had to tell everyone, too | 01:19 | |
| highvoltage | heh | 01:21 |
| Samsagax | mhh i had a question | 01:25 |
| Samsagax | I need some advice: anyone knows about progress in hybrid-graphics? | 01:26 |
| charlie-tca | jibel_: want a hardware smoke test on desktop 64? | 01:32 |
| charlie-tca | Memtest is back, too | 02:08 |
| charlie-tca | clarify: MemTest is working on the desktop cd today | 02:09 |
| skaet | charlie-tca, smoke test on desktop 64 is most welcome at this point. thanks. | 02:27 |
| skaet | xubuntu daily-live amd64 i386 posted | 02:27 |
| charlie-tca | running both virtualbox and hardware checks | 02:27 |
| skaet | ubuntu headless omap3 & omap4 posted | 02:28 |
| charlie-tca | guided partitioning with more than one hard drive does not offer the ability to resize either drive. It picks one. | 03:49 |
| charlie-tca | It does not even the one with the most space, that I can tell. | 03:50 |
| highvoltage | charlie-tca: what does it do with the other one? nothing? | 03:53 |
| charlie-tca | yup | 03:54 |
| charlie-tca | I have two drives, it selects sdb to resize | 03:54 |
| charlie-tca | sda does not show up in the list at all | 03:54 |
| charlie-tca | It did this for beta2 also | 03:54 |
| charlie-tca | It splits my 26gb partition instead of the 40gb on sda | 03:57 |
| skaet | edubuntu i386, amd64 posted | 04:42 |
| skaet | highvoltage, stgraber ^^ | 04:44 |
| charlie-tca | I don't see any showstoppers; ran installs for Ubuntu and xubuntu 32bit and 64bit desktop images. | 04:56 |
| charlie-tca | I am going to bed now | 04:56 |
| skaet | thanks charlie-tca | 04:56 |
| skaet | I'm heading in myself. | 04:56 |
| charlie-tca | You are welcome | 04:56 |
| skaet | ubuntu netbook omap3/omap4 on the tracker now | 04:58 |
| skaet | kubuntu mobile i386 on the tracker as well | 04:58 |
| stgraber | skaet: cool, I'll download and test tomorrow | 06:11 |
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| charlie-tca | I show both 20110422 and 20110422.1 for Xubuntu desktop today. Which one is correct to test? | 13:20 |
| jibel | charlie-tca, .1, the tracker is not updated, the image was published when I was having lunch. doing it now. | 13:29 |
| charlie-tca | thanks, jibel . syncing images here | 13:29 |
| jibel | charlie-tca, yw. tracker is correct now. | 13:30 |
| skaet | jibel, charlie-tca - there wasn't any uploads between 22 and 22.1 for xubuntu, so results from 22 should be valid for 22.1 | 15:15 |
| jibel | charlie-tca, I can move the results from 22 to 22.1 if you wish | 15:16 |
| charlie-tca | zsync gave a 10% difference in the images for desktop | 15:16 |
| jibel | charlie-tca, because the bits are not at the same place on the iso ? if that makes sense | 15:16 |
| skaet | charlie-tca, interesting. I started the xubuntu off manually just before the cron job kicked in. | 15:17 |
| charlie-tca | weird | 15:17 |
| * skaet nods | 15:17 | |
| charlie-tca | jibel: let's just run all the tests again. It was only two tests on each, and one was live session | 15:18 |
| jibel | charlie-tca, do you reproduce bug 737792 ? | 15:19 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 737792 in unity (Ubuntu) (and 2 other projects) "compiz crashed with SIGABRT in Glib::exception_handlers_invoke() (affects: 164) (dups: 59) (heat: 969)" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/737792 | 15:19 |
| charlie-tca | I got no crashes | 15:20 |
| charlie-tca | yet | 15:20 |
| charlie-tca | I will need to try the screen-reader install to see if it is there, but I didn't think it crashed for beta2, even. | 15:21 |
| charlie-tca | I never saw the crash last night. I ran both desktop images on hardware, too | 15:22 |
| charlie-tca | jibel: I even tried every launcher last night, to see if anything crashed | 15:23 |
| jibel | charlie-tca, okay, thanks. | 15:27 |
| jibel | charlie-tca, I did a screen reader install and it's really broken. it reads frm_liveinstaller, btn_forward, ... all the symbolic names of the widgets. | 15:29 |
| charlie-tca | not good | 15:29 |
| charlie-tca | We put in a patch to fix that, I will have to find out what happened to it | 15:29 |
| jibel | charlie-tca, technically that's because ubiquity routinely set the atk_name of the widget to the value taken from the glade file. I think that's used to test ubiquity and be independant of the language but that breaks the a11y devices. | 15:32 |
| charlie-tca | so we are going to not have an accessibile install again | 15:34 |
| ScottK | Sounds like a good UDS topic though. | 15:39 |
| charlie-tca | It was at the last UDS. unfortunately, most of the accessibility stuff for Natty has been postponed to at least 11.10 | 15:39 |
| ScottK | They won't be rewriting the desktop this next cycle, so I suspect the odds are better. | 15:40 |
| charlie-tca | We were assured, no two ways about it, accessibility was top priority, until it comes down to actually doing it | 15:40 |
| ScottK | Unfortunately at this point for Natty, what's done is done. | 15:41 |
| charlie-tca | Unfortunately, I heard that too many times in this cycle | 15:44 |
| charlie-tca | Oh, well, there is another turn coming up! | 15:45 |
| charlie-tca | for the time accessibility was actually given, we did pretty good | 15:46 |
| Samsagax | //b | 15:52 |
| fader_ | Hmm, is it intentional that I can no longer type in the "mount point" combobox in the ubiquity manual partitioner? | 16:49 |
| fader_ | The dropdown works and I can type in the partition size spinbox, just not in the 'mount point' box | 16:49 |
| xdatap | jibel, hello | 16:53 |
| charlie-tca | fader_: I haven't tried typing the mount points for a while now. | 16:55 |
| fader_ | charlie-tca: I filed bug 769043 about it | 16:55 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 769043 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Cannot manually specify a mount point in the manual partitoner (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/769043 | 16:55 |
| fader_ | I know it worked in 10.10, because I use that functionality :) | 16:56 |
| xdatap | hggdh, hello | 16:57 |
| charlie-tca | I used to use it, now I install mostly from the alternate images for my own systems | 16:57 |
| hggdh | xdatap: hello | 16:58 |
| jibel | xdatap, hello | 16:58 |
| xdatap | hggdh, may I rise your attention to a bug a guy in the Italian Team just succeeded in reproducing with today's image. It's the bug #557261 | 16:59 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 557261 in casper (Ubuntu) "The session live persistent with USB don't start, error in the prompt initramfs (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/557261 | 16:59 |
| xdatap | hggdh, it looks like problematic to me, and the guy just uploaded the required logs (he had problem in recovering it) | 16:59 |
| hggdh | looking at it | 16:59 |
| xdatap | hggdh, thank you :) | 17:00 |
| jibel | xdatap, yup, it's on release team's radar and someone from foundation will look at it. | 17:00 |
| xdatap | jibel, great. Just to be sure | 17:00 |
| xdatap | jibel, are you coming next uds, right? | 17:00 |
| jibel | xdatap, are you able to reproduce ? | 17:00 |
| xdatap | jibel, not me but the guy in the team yes. It looks like hardware related | 17:01 |
| xdatap | jibel, I mentored him for getting the logs from the live session | 17:01 |
| hggdh | xdatap: the dmesg.txt does not show the boot process -- but it does show a series of radeon OOPSes | 17:04 |
| xdatap | hggdh, so, the problem looks like related to the video card | 17:05 |
| jibel | looks like a bug in the kernel | 17:06 |
| hggdh | xdatap: it may, I do not know -- casper.log shows, at the end, that mounting /dev/sdc1 could not be mounted | 17:06 |
| hggdh | I am also tending to kernel bug right now... | 17:06 |
| hggdh | but we really need the initial dmseg, we do not even know if the OOPSes are cause or consequence | 17:07 |
| jibel | xdatap, and the output of lspci -vvnn | 17:07 |
| hggdh | might be worth trying to boot in text mode to see what happens | 17:08 |
| xdatap | hggdh, if may be useful, this is the "mount" done in the same system booted with the working partition: http://paste.ubuntu.com/597483/ | 17:09 |
| xdatap | hggdh, sdc1 is the usb stick with the image | 17:10 |
| xdatap | jibel, hggdh ok, to recap, it's needed the "lspci -vvnn" and a test with a text boot, right? | 17:11 |
| hggdh | xdatap: yes. Also, please make sure that all dmesg is collected, there may be more than one dmesg* file under /var/log | 17:21 |
| xdatap | hggdh, ok | 17:21 |
| xdatap | hggdh, thanks. I'll see you in Budapest? | 17:22 |
| hggdh | xdatap: I hope so :-) | 17:26 |
| xdatap | hggdh, great, looking forward to it :) I gotta go, bye bye! | 17:27 |
| JasonO | Hello. I am a new Desktop tester. Do I have to wait for new applications to be tested since Natty will be released next week? | 17:45 |
| JasonO | Does that make sense? | 17:45 |
| charlie-tca | Nope | 17:47 |
| charlie-tca | you can download todays images and test them | 17:47 |
| charlie-tca | !dai | 17:47 |
| ubot4 | Factoid 'dai' not found | 17:47 |
| charlie-tca | We use the images specified on the iso testing tracker at | 17:48 |
| charlie-tca | http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/ | 17:48 |
| charlie-tca | by clicking the cd, you can download the image, by clicking the square at each test, you get a written test case we run | 17:48 |
| charlie-tca | and, you can test the applications if you desire | 17:49 |
| charlie-tca | JasonO: welcome to testing! | 17:49 |
| JasonO | charlie-tca Thank you. What do you recommend? iso or applications? | 17:50 |
| JasonO | I could not install the natty beat 2 in virtual box a couple of weeks ago. | 17:50 |
| charlie-tca | We are smoke testing iso's today. | 17:50 |
| charlie-tca | Feel free to test applications if you want to. It is always good to know what fails to work | 17:51 |
| charlie-tca | VirtualBox can be tricky to make work. | 17:51 |
| JasonO | What does that mean? Smoke testing. | 17:51 |
| charlie-tca | especially with unity | 17:51 |
| charlie-tca | smoke testing means we want to check that the images actually install | 17:51 |
| JasonO | Not within VB but within the whole system? | 17:52 |
| charlie-tca | We will try as many types of partitioning and installations as we can to make sure that is working | 17:52 |
| charlie-tca | both | 17:52 |
| charlie-tca | Hardware and VirtualBox | 17:52 |
| charlie-tca | but VBox is tricky with unity, since you don't get 3d right off, until you install guest additions | 17:52 |
| JasonO | So what desktop.qa.ubuntu.com for? JUst Natty? I'm on Maverick. | 17:54 |
| charlie-tca | yes, for the next version. Our main objective is to test that everything works before we give the cd to the general public. | 17:55 |
| charlie-tca | If it doesn't work, we want to find the bugs, so when someone says it fails, we might be able to give a workaround, or at least let them know it is known. | 17:56 |
| JasonO | Alright. So it is okey if I test the applications ie: Nautilus on Maverick and report a bug if it exists? Or wait until Natty arrives to upgrade then test? | 17:56 |
| charlie-tca | You can test most of natty applications in maverick | 17:57 |
| charlie-tca | It is always to report the bugs, but our tests are in natty | 17:57 |
| JasonO | So I should upgrade to Natty early? | 17:57 |
| charlie-tca | The versions of applications in natty are mostly newer than the versions in maverick. So if nautilus fails in maverick, it may already be fixed in natty | 17:57 |
| JasonO | I understand. | 17:58 |
| charlie-tca | either upgrade or test in virtualbox, which works fine for the applications | 17:58 |
| charlie-tca | Nautilus in unity and nautilus in classic-desktop of natty is still nautilus in natty | 17:58 |
| JasonO | I have 512MB of memory and 2.6 Ghz. The iso I have of natty beta 2 will not let me do a live preview. Do you think it will install? | 17:59 |
| charlie-tca | nope | 18:00 |
| charlie-tca | try the daily image from today | 18:00 |
| charlie-tca | !daily | 18:00 |
| ubot4 | Daily builds of the CD images of the current development version of Ubuntu are available at http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily/current/ and http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/ | 18:00 |
| charlie-tca | see if it will work | 18:00 |
| JasonO | Okey, thanks very much. On my connetion it will take two hours or less. | 18:01 |
| charlie-tca | lunch time | 18:07 |
| charlie-tca | jibel: I ran both upgrades and alternates this week and they did work. barring big changes, they should be fine for Xubuntu | 18:08 |
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| jibel | charlie-tca, I confirm, both xubuntu upgrades succeeded. | 21:10 |
| charlie-tca | Thanks, I have the 64bit running here too | 21:11 |
| charlie-tca | My connection is just really slow again | 21:11 |
| rob0917 | is ubuntu 11.04 beta discussed here ? | 22:57 |
| micahg | rob0917: this channel is more about ISO testing, what specifically do you want to discuss? | 22:59 |
| rob0917 | I was wondering if I could upgrade to final release version on april 28th from the 11.04 beta 2 | 23:01 |
| ScottK | You can. | 23:14 |
| micahg | ScottK: missed him | 23:19 |
| ScottK | Meh. OK. | 23:19 |
| JasonO | charlie-tca Had to download the iso a second time because the first did not save. Now the VM is giving me: [344.965242] piix4_smbus 0000:00:07.0: SMBus base address uninitialized - upgrade BIOS or use force_addr=0xaddr | 23:36 |
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