[00:08] Azelphur: what page were you trying to visit? [00:09] ali1234: I was just hitting stumbleupon lol [00:10] the content lock thing? [00:10] i don't understand the rationale behind global menu [00:11] the space saving is minimal when windows are maximised === tubadaz_away is now known as tubadaz [00:11] and its just confusing when windows aren't maximised [00:14] good evening everyone [00:15] hiya brobostigon [00:15] hey dwatkins :) [00:17] I'm watching traffic to a website increase as a competition has just been posted on it, just a caption thing between friends, but I suspect it will get a fair number of hits. [00:17] I'm a bit concerned that the machine might become a target as a result, as it has a wordpress blog and a forum plugin, anyone here used the Mingle forum plugin? [00:18] a non-techie friend saw my unity desktop today and said 'thats a cool layout' so i can't complain to much [00:20] I'm tempted to try Unity, perhaps when sound works on my Mac. [00:28] i'm not sure you'd notice going from mac to unity :p [00:30] oh you will. I tried [00:31] tried and went back, shauno? [00:31] yeah [00:32] I was completely unprepared for how badly they've managed to break things I take for granted. shall have to try it when I'm high sometime === tubadaz is now known as tubadaz_away [00:35] so far, it's been bad enough that I'm working on plans to migrate ubuntu-server machines back to debian. I've completely lost faith in ubuntu's ability to cater for it's users, rather than hypothetical future users [00:36] highly motivated? :> [00:41] reference missed :( === tubadaz_away is now known as tubadaz [01:31] [Simos Xenitellis] Pre-installed Windows and competition in the European Union - http://simos.info/blog/archives/1198?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=pre-installed-windows-and-competition-in-the-european-union [02:00] i find this ask slashdot story amusing [02:00] http://ask.slashdot.org/story/11/04/21/2311251/Ask-Slashdot-Are-You-Streaming-Only-For-Home-Entertainment [02:00] because it assumes that you must either have satellite/cable pay tv, or use internet streaming to buy the same thing [02:01] silly americans [02:01] that's pretty much a given for large parts of the US [02:01] yes, i know [02:01] they have no FTA worth even mentioning [02:01] because giving something away = socialism [02:02] hence "silly americans" [02:02] I'm not sure it's anything to do with giving stuff away. there's plenty of channels on cable you don't pay for [02:02] it's not like FTA doesn't contain advertising [02:03] you pay for the cable [02:03] the "free" channels are like the "free" toy with the happy meal [02:03] not free at all [02:03] in most cases, the shear scale of the place just makes FTA unprofitable [02:04] satellite can cover it easily [02:04] i wonder what you can get unencrypted on american satellite TV [02:04] I wouldn't even call that easily. you end up needing a pretty huge dish [02:05] ok, maybe not easily, but certainly a lot easier than terrestrial transmitter network, and absolutely far easier than cabling every house [02:07] that's it .. cabling them doesn't need to be easy, because enough of them are paying for it [02:07] it'll make it's cost back [02:07] yes [02:07] public service broadcasting for free is never going to be profitable [02:08] nor should it be [02:08] but try telling that to the average american [02:08] I'm not talking about pbs .. the middle-ground where you can be completely ad-supported [02:09] that doesn't even work in the UK any more [02:09] ITV will be dead within 5 years probably [02:09] itv's selling deals with the carriers already [02:10] we just lost all their channels on ntl because they signed exclusivity to someone else [02:10] oops [02:10] but hang on [02:10] it's on FTA and freesat [02:10] i mean terrestrial [02:10] why would you even have NTL? [02:10] I'm in ireland [02:10] oh [02:11] you can probably get freesat depending on how far west you are [02:11] and questionable legality [02:11] that's the next catch. I'm on the atlantic coast :) [02:12] ah well. itv sucks anyway [02:12] rte isn't aweful, for the news atleast. rte2 doesn't like speaking english. itv3 is just ulster's itv, and I've no idea what they call channel 4 - it *really* doesn't like speaking english [02:13] S4C? [02:13] naw, that's wales [02:13] oh yes, sorry [02:13] when i was younger, i would come home from the pub, put the TV on [02:13] and because i'd hear an English word every now and then, be convinced i'd gone nuts [02:13] i'd sit there furrowing my eyebrows at the TV for ages until i realised it was on S4C :( [02:14] heh, yeah. I used to get s4c in barrow, because I had a better line of sight to anglesea than the tower we were meant to be on [02:15] ah, there we are [02:15] TG4 (Irish: TG Ceathair or TG a Ceathair; pronounced [tiː dʒiː kʲahəɾʲ]) is a public service broadcaster for Irish-language speakers. - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TG4 [02:15] speaking of terrestrial tv, has anyone got a working dvb-t2 (HD) usb tuner? [02:16] i've never heard irish [02:16] according to linux tv wiki there's only two, one is work in progress and the other is not supported [02:16] if you've heard scots' gaelic, it's not far off [02:17] lol WIP and unsupported, great [02:18] must sleep, nn o/ [02:18] main reason I have cable here, is because the only other option is dsl via the national telco, and they're pure f*n evil [02:19] atleast ntl are just incompetent. eircomm are evil by design. [02:21] if nothing else, ntl atleast reply to the **AA's with "sure, just get a court order" instead of eircomm's "sure thing buddy" [06:44] Good morning everyone [06:44] how are you ding today ? [08:32] hello hello [08:33] stunning weather - time to get the home automation project back on track :) [08:34] danfish: hmm.. inside.. solder smoke [08:34] Hmm... [08:34] W: Failed to fetch http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/lucid-updates/multiverse/binary-i386/Packages.gz Cannot initiate the connection to gb.archive.ubuntu.com:80 (194.169.254.10). - connect (101: Network is unreachable) [08:35] My connection is fine, how can I not get stuff from the gb archive? [08:35] MichealH: maybe their connection isn't fine :) [08:36] can you get it in a browser MichealH [08:36] any messing with proxies or apt-proxy stuff? [08:37] MartijnVdS: thankfully no - that's all done. Now for the exciting/fustrating part - putting it all together 'in the field' [08:38] AlanBell: Hmm? [08:38] I haven't touched my sources.list or anything, but this happens [08:40] MichealH: what happens if you try again? [08:43] http://pastebin.com/j9yCJszU [08:43] I need to afk [08:43] So See Ya I guess [08:43] :p [08:49] morning everyone [08:50] MichealH: try "wget http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/lucid-updates/multiverse/binary-i386/Packages.gz" === serial is now known as Guest45513 [09:34] I haven't used virtualbox for a year or so, but it's changed a lot from what I remember (for the better) [09:34] networking used to be a bit tricky [09:42] Yeah, virtualbox is pretty good for general use, although it doesn't have graphics drivers I could play games with quite yet. [09:49] hi all anyone got a second top help me with some simple startup scripts?? [09:49] heh - unfortunately my gaming time is rather restricted these days due to the sproggles :) [09:50] kirior: ask away [09:51] so i would like to make my terminal to open up on my desktop and login as su every time i boot up. how do i do that [09:53] by su, do you mean root/sudo -i etc? [09:54] good morning everyone. [09:55] yes root, i got a password set so i don't have to write sudo every time a command require it [09:55] btw im n00b :) [09:57] kirior: np :) [09:57] if you look in System \ Preferences\ Sessions [09:58] and click on 'add' [09:59] in the name bit put what you want [09:59] sessions or startup applications ? i cannot find sessions :| [10:00] ah - startup applications [10:00] it changed, not sure when [10:00] which terminal prog do you use? [10:03] gnome terminal [10:03] if that is what you mean [10:04] yep [10:04] ok added that, now how do i make it log in as root? as soon as it will startup? [10:05] the command should be 'gnome-terminal -e 'sudo -i' [10:07] do i need ' between -e sudo -i? [10:08] no i dont need that :) === serial is now known as Guest1680 [10:50] on VM when i done the shared folder there was an option for auto mounting which is ok but if i would like to do it from script how would that look like? === ChrisB is now known as Guest41373 [11:16] anyone can help me with virtual machine shared folder setup?? [11:24] any1? === OmNomDeBonBon is now known as RaycisCharles [11:25] kirior: i suspect most people are outside in the sun :) [11:25] or asleep [11:25] or pub lunching? [11:25] hmm could be, U got minute or just about to go out? [11:26] I'm afraid I dont know about your problem [11:26] me neither, sorry. [11:26] ok no worries :) at least someone replied :) [11:27] popey: Where do you live? [11:27] i'll try ubuntuforums [11:27] iulian: UK [11:27] popey: Yea, I know but where exactly. [11:27] Farnborough, Hampshire [11:27] You're in London? [11:28] Yes. [11:28] lovely day :) [11:28] Indeed, hence the question. :) [11:53] bug [11:53] ? [11:53] bug 768907 [11:53] Launchpad bug 768907 in gnome-settings-daemon (Ubuntu) "Theme broken but gsd not crashed" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/768907 === Hornet- is now known as Hornet === cypher is now known as czajkowski [13:23] AlanBell: michealh@serv:~$ wget http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/lucid-updates/multiverse/binary-i386/Packages.gz [13:23] --2011-04-22 13:23:10-- http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/lucid-updates/multiverse/binary-i386/Packages.gz [13:23] Resolving gb.archive.ubuntu.com... 2a01:450:10:1::10, 194.169.254.10 [13:23] Connecting to gb.archive.ubuntu.com|2a01:450:10:1::10|:80... failed: Network is unreachable. [13:23] Connecting to gb.archive.ubuntu.com|194.169.254.10|:80... failed: Network is unreachable. [13:23] !lucid [13:23] Ubuntu 10.04 LTS (Lucid Lynx) was the twelfth release of Ubuntu. Download http://releases.ubuntu.com/10.04/ - Release Info: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/1004 [13:29] brobostigon: I just cant install anything [13:30] MichealH: so you can ping the repo fine? [13:30] MichealH: and also manually with your webbrowser looking atthe repo. [13:31] Yeah, on my PC I can [13:31] apt works fine [13:31] but on my server, nope :/ [13:32] MichealH: have your checked its dns setup? [13:32] dns is fine [13:32] he got an IP address [13:32] indeed [13:32] true, sorry. [13:32] MichealH: what does 'mtr gb.archive.ubuntu.com' return? [13:32] from the server [13:33] It does not seem to send packets [13:33] ping 194.169.254.10 [13:33] from the server [13:33] i suspect your routing is screwy [13:34] connect: Network is unreachable [13:34] are you ssh'ed to your server from your pc? [13:34] and "ip route" ? [13:34] I have edited my /etc/network/interfaces.. if that helps [13:34] popey: Yeah [13:34] MichealH: that probably screwed it [13:34] MichealH: pastebin your /etc/network/interfaces [13:34] I suspect you have no default gateway specified [13:35] Oh, I see a typo in my netmasl [13:35] *netmask [13:35] brb [13:35] :P [13:36] For those intrested in the typo: http://pastebin.com/CLVgeL70 [13:36] Afternoon [13:36] that'd do it [13:36] lo daubers [13:36] * daubers returns from sailing on a boat for a week [13:37] daubers: wb! [13:37] popey: I know it was supposed to be 255.255.255.0 :P [13:37] wb, daubers [13:37] anyone got any suggestions about bug 768907 [13:37] Launchpad bug 768907 in gnome-settings-daemon (Ubuntu) "Theme broken but gsd not crashed" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/768907 [13:38] this isthe final bug which is stopping me doing any screencasting [13:39] I got it working [13:39] God, I feel like a idiot now :P [13:47] * daubers waits for natty to become up to date [13:48] gaahhahahahahaha [13:48] bug 768958 [13:48] Launchpad bug 768958 in xorg (Ubuntu) "Keyboard layout wrong on MBP 7,1 "Macintosh International"" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/768958 [13:50] Ooooh, could have a shower [13:51] popey: bah, how annoying [13:51] Aloha folks [13:51] hiya czajkowski [13:52] o/ [13:53] Shower then tea and cake I think [13:57] mmm, cake [13:57] I should play more Portal 2 this evening so I can justify having cake. [13:58] I trust everyone is well this fine but slightly grey afternoon. [13:58] super bright here [14:00] * Pendulum just remembered she has cake in the fridge [14:00] I'm north of the wall (Hadrian's, that is), so I guess we get all the bad weather ;) [14:00] vanilla chiffon with passion fruit buttercream frosting :D [14:00] Yay for cake! [14:00] Sounds yummy, Pendulum. [14:00] it is! [14:01] I will have some later :) [14:01] although I might also go out and buy some sort of cake involving chocolate [14:01] Such restraint. [14:01] because there is not enough chocolate in my house [14:01] I think chocolate is a must this weekend. [14:01] and Easter will probably all be pies :( [14:02] I made a point of buying lots of chocolate today so we have plenty of choice. [14:02] I'm on my own other than dinner on Easter so am mostly not bothering [14:02] usually I buy chocolate the day after Easter instead [14:02] (it's like buying chocolate on Feb 15th) [14:02] cunning plan [14:13] hi all . i placed some files in ubuntu one last night from my phone and there not synced its been 14 hours now and it still just says syncronising... theres 230MB of photos, now i also placed half these in drop box and there all synced and stuff but ubuntu one has not synced any files... any help ? [14:41] hi all . i placed some files in ubuntu one last night from my phone and there not synced its been 14 hours now and it still just says syncronising... theres 230MB of photos, now i also placed half these in drop box and there all synced and stuff but ubuntu one has not synced any files... any help ? [14:42] Neoti, "u1sdtool -s" will report u1's status [14:42] you can reboot it with "u1sdtool -q; u1sdtool --start" [14:43] State: QUEUE_MANAGER [14:43] connection: With User With Network [14:43] description: processing queues [14:43] is_connected: True [14:43] is_error: False [14:43] is_online: True [14:43] queues: WORKING_ON_BOTH [14:44] Neoti: that means it's syncing [14:44] !pastebin | Neoti, also [14:44] Neoti, also: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. [14:44] but its been this way for 14 + Hours now i only want to sync 230MB ... dropbox did it in less than 1 hour ... thats what i cant under stand ? [14:45] Neoti: what do u1sdtool --waiting say? [14:47] don't supose it's aws fallout? [14:47] could be [14:47] it lists all files i want to sync [14:49] is there currently a problem with ubuntu one ? can anyone else place a simple photo in ubuntu one and see if it uploads etc ... [14:50] i need this folder to sync so i can switch off the computer and take my laptop out with me once synced etc ... [14:52] !ubuntuone [14:52] Ubuntu One is a service where you can back up, store, sync and share your data with other Ubuntu One users - For more see https://one.ubuntu.com/ support and help available at #ubuntuone [14:52] Neoti: have you tried that channel? [14:53] i did do a search for a ubuntu one channel before trying here plus google... but i shall try in this channel now ... thanks ... [14:53] good luck [15:05] [Michael Wood] Media explorer - http://www.michaelwood.me.uk/wordpress/2011/04/22/media-explorer/ [15:54] Is there an app for the Tomboy notes for Amdroid phones? [15:54] Also can you connect to Ubuntu One using your android phone? [15:55] scoundrel50a: I seem to remember there was omething called tomtroid for tomboy notes on android [15:56] https://launchpad.net/tomdroid [15:57] Yep, its there https://market.android.com/details?id=org.tomdroid&feature=search_result [15:57] Oh, that looks interesting, any body tried it? I will give it a go. I just found the Ubuntu One site, and it has an app for Android, so will have a look at that too. Thank you [16:04] hi, i want to be able to ssh into my ubuntu laptop without having to login and with the lid closed, is this possible? [16:08] venmx, you need to prevent it from sleeping when you close the lid [16:08] systerm, preferences, power management [16:08] i think i did that, but if i dont login it doesnt work [16:08] is there a way to do this in a config file? [16:09] hm... you use wifi? [16:10] no, its wired in, eth0 [16:10] not that bug, i got it in /etc/network/... its ok in that department anyway [16:11] i wanted to be able to use this lappy closed all the time [16:15] sry my bad.... default for all users ;) [16:28] Bah, why does my sound suddenly go quieter for a second, then really loud, then back to normal [16:32] wow... telling people the wrong time and date for a meeting, then acting surprised when they don't show up... real classy [17:07] right! Applied for Finance with OU, filled in a v62 as VW Newbury failed to file some paperwork, bit further on code and hungry now === serial is now known as Guest29452 [19:05] [Ralph Janke] Ubuntu Natty Release Party in Kitchener-Waterloo on Saturday, 30 April 2011 - http://drupal.txwikinger.me.uk/content/ubuntu-natty-release-party-kitchener-waterloo-saturday-30-april-2011 [19:27] \o/ happy birthday to me, happy birthday to me, happy birthay dear suprengr, happy birthday to me. [19:30] * DJones says happy birthday to suprengr, but points out that singing has just caused torrential rain, hailstones, thunder & lightening [19:31] * suprengr thinks better hum it next year... no more singing! - & cheers DJones [19:37] suprengr: Hey happy birthday [19:39] thanks & cheers to you penguin42 [19:39] suprengr: :-) [19:40] suprengr: At least it saved me watering the plants I've still got to put in the garden [19:40] thanks & cheers to you as well matti [19:42] DJones: plants, soil & animals need water atm... this is not seasonal... begging for mercy all round [19:43] Heh [20:25] that microsd card company doesn't seem to be replying to my email lol [20:25] so basically I'm stuffed, amazon won't do anything, they have my money and my card \o/ [20:26] oh well :( [20:48] Azelphur: small claims court? [20:48] dunno if it's worth it for £30 [21:09] leave a nasty review [21:09] that'll show em [21:11] gord can't because I already left feedback xD [21:12] they screwed me over on warranty [21:13] redirect all your junk mail to them [21:16] sounds fun [21:31] evening all [21:31] btw [21:34] making rollercoasters is much more fun now with powered rails :) feels quite realistic [21:34] no loops though :( [21:43] popey: need more gold and redstone [21:43] ;) [21:43] if you got any [21:45] :) [21:51] note to self, make sure xchat channel column is wide enough to tell the difference between #ubuntu-uk and #ubuntu-uk-minecraft [21:55] gord: but that's no fun [21:57] https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=648158 win :D [21:57] Mozilla bug 648158 in Server Operations: Desktop Issues "Mozilla office is on fire" [Normal,Resolved: invalid] [22:00] * daubers throws together a quick django db [22:03] ty [22:23] rail to castle now works fully [22:23] :D [22:51] ugh. silly standby thing on the cable box. pops up and tells me I haven't interacted with it lately, so it's gonna go sleep now. [22:51] a 2 minute race to find the remote :/ [23:03] really? [23:03] thats awful [23:03] interact with me plz :o kthnxbye [23:03] heh. that's exactly what it does [23:03] if you don't touch the remote at all for 3 hours, it gives you a 2 minute warning that it's going to sleep [23:04] shauno: What happens if you're watching some long depressing 4 hour film, does it still want to switch off [23:04] DJones: if you don't touch the remote at all, yes [23:05] shauno: VM? [23:05] surely there must be a setting for that [23:05] Sounds rather stupid [23:06] there is. 1 hour, 2 hours, or 3 hours [23:06] bigcalm: not sure what you mean vm ? [23:06] VirginMedia [23:07] oh, no. upc/ntl [23:08] (.ie .. I'm aware ntl there are virgin now. they're not here :) [23:08] or was that telewest. hard to keep track from a distance [23:08] yay, my internets up for 5 minutes :D [23:08] * Azelphur downloads everything like crazy [23:11] :) [23:11] I'm all for things being clever about their power consumption. but that's not clever. that's guessing. [23:12] clever would be 3 hours or after the current program... whichever comes later [23:12] if they wanna be clever, they should 'spot' the "film4 has gone to sleep" screen, and knock the box (and the telly) off if it's left on for x minutes [23:14] parents tv goes off if left and no program is set in the scedule [23:14] which is good, but it is annoying having to click OK on everything you want to watch [23:17] I just don't want the TV to talk back. I've got a laptop for that. [23:17] if it has to ask, it's probably got it wrong [23:18] I get the impression that I'm just being punished for being too lazy to mute the adverts [23:20] haha [23:36] * DJones considers giving up, I've just been asked the question, What do you call people from Tokyo? Tokians?.......Erm.. Do you mean Japanese....Oh yeah :) [23:40] What do you call people from London? [23:40] i once heard a girl taking a level geography ask whether japan was an island.. [23:40] 'lost', if they are up here [23:41] bigcalm: many things not for this channel :o [23:41] Nope, it's more than 1 island [23:41] Heh [23:41] pedant [23:41] :P [23:43] 4 isn;t it? [23:43] ok, 6852 [23:43] i was close [23:43] DJones: edokko (or tokyoite) :) [23:44] :) [23:44] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adjectivals_and_demonyms_for_cities [23:55] Hmm, I really want to do drupal 7 multi site :p [23:55] but I can't really understand it [23:55] does anyone know how it actually works beyond "multi site"? I don't really understand xD [23:56] * popey tickles bigcalm [23:57] nobody can understand drupal except the authors [23:57] ali1234: haha, I do pretty good with drupal :D [23:57] and they would rather sell their books than write good documentation [23:57] :o [23:57] hey does drupal 7 support images yet? [23:57] or do i still need to use a manky plugin? [23:58] seems reasonably good image wise here http://fasttrack-khadgar.com/ :p [23:58] (Joined a wow guild, took the opportunity to play with d7 xD) [23:58] i see no images [23:58] inline [23:58] me neither [23:58] http://fasttrack-khadgar.com/forums/topic/post-your-picture-thread [23:58] nope, no inline images [23:58] * Azelphur runs [23:59] that's some kind of forum thing... [23:59] ali1234: that's the drupal forum. [23:59] it has a forum now? [23:59] or is it a plugin? [23:59] It always has done. [23:59] the forum itself is core [23:59] the version on my website does not have a forum [23:59] but I've got some plugins loaded to spruce it up a bit. [23:59] ali1234: it's not loaded by default but it does ship with it