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gamerchick02cool. i'm off for some Nero Wolfe, i think00:01
gamerchick02see everyone tomorrow00:01
gamerchick02when are you doing the hacking for bookie? like time?00:01
rick_h__bwuhahaha: http://rick.bmark.us/recent click the -R- links :)02:00
greg-grick_h__: yay!02:00
rick_h__all live, updated chrome extension and so from now all will always have my content parsed up02:00
greg-gawesome02:01
rick_h__nooooooooooooooo dammit, does all the EC2 crap mean my roky netflix is down?02:18
jjesseprobably02:18
rick_h__crap, that was my chil plans02:19
greg-g:(02:19
jjessesad trombone02:21
greg-gI sent the sadtrombone.com url in a one-line work email today :)02:23
jjessenice02:23
snap-lbrousch: Thank you. :) Glad you're liking it.03:10
snap-lWhat the hell is it with Yahoo Pulse not offering RSS feeds?03:12
snap-ln/m, found it03:12
snap-lGood morning13:14
rick_h_35party13:15
brouschyessir13:15
greg-gmorn morn13:22
snap-l!openmetalcast's interview with Cloudkicker is now online. Learn more about this amazing band! http://ur1.ca/3xrsl13:29
brouschsnap-l: is jamendo broken for you? i'm trying to play unconditional surrender here to see if it's the one i liked but it won't actually play http://www.jamendo.com/en/album/8560614:35
snap-lYeah, it's not coming up14:41
snap-lI wonder if they're another AMZ casualty.14:41
brouschok, thanks14:41
snap-lActually, now it's working14:47
snap-lare you using the HTML5 player?14:48
brouschthey must've fixed it14:49
brouschand, yep, that's the one14:50
brouschfrench death metal? who knew they had it in them?14:51
snap-lYou haven't heard of Gojira, have you? :)14:53
snap-lFrench Death Metal that is heavy has anything out there.14:53
brouschi have not14:53
brouschi know very little beyond what master snap-l has taught me14:54
snap-lhttp://www.gojira-music.com/14:55
snap-lUnfortunately, my flash is completley fucked at the moment14:55
snap-lhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v0B7I49fq_g14:56
brouschthe site works for me14:57
snap-lGrr, I'm tired of people calling things podcasts that don't have enclosure tags14:57
snap-lbrousch: Yeah, it's my problem to fix14:57
snap-land I can't be bothered because The Daily Show is off this week14:57
brouschheh14:58
snap-ler, I mean, because I have more important things to worry about.14:58
snap-lLearning Python is on sale today at O'Reilly15:02
snap-lDD4PY is the coupon code.15:02
snap-l(eBook version)15:02
smoserjcastro, meant to tell you  yesterday, you post at http://castrojo.tumblr.com/post/4795149014/the-power-users-guide-to-unity is really good.15:11
krondorquiet today18:03
greg-gall the action is in #bookie ;)18:03
krondorooh nice a del.icio.us alternative18:07
snap-lSheesh, there's a lot of pain on identi.ca over the Fedora marketing18:08
snap-lSeriously, Joe has a great point, and fabsh isn't having any of it18:08
rick_h__oh no, you mean the fanbio won't listen to reason?18:10
snap-lWell, fabsh is pretty well making Joe's point18:12
snap-land just thre my hat into the ring18:14
brouschsnap-l: would you have stayed out out of it if you weren't on your period?18:14
snap-lbrousch: And I was wondering how long you'd take... You're slowing down.18:15
brouschi was out to lunch :P18:15
brouschand jodee is awesome18:15
snap-lShe agrees with your assessment. ;18:19
snap-l:)18:19
slestakhola peeps.18:25
slestakany of you that I discussed my beta2 ubiquity problem with, I posted a bunch more to the ticket today.18:25
slestaki installed and reinstalled beta1 and no problem.  I am going to dl and install beta2 again18:26
snap-lOh it's on.18:36
jjessesnap-l like donkey kong?18:37
slestaki also installed opensuse for comparison and it installed w no drama18:37
slestaki had to hold my breath though.  I almost passed out.  I cannto handle rpm distros18:38
snap-lAnd I'm done.18:44
greg-gsnap-l: just ignore the trolls18:44
greg-ghe's a master18:44
snap-lYeah, he is18:44
rick_h__fab?18:45
snap-lfabsh18:45
rick_h__he's a total troll, can't stand to listen to that podcast any more he's so bad18:45
snap-lhttp://identi.ca/notice/71703303 <- So tempted to say "Yeah, and you have to wake up to them every morning"18:46
slestakno way18:47
slestakunpossible18:47
snap-lbut, letting my adult nature take over.18:47
slestaknm, i dont follow anythign on twitter or identica18:48
snap-lSome days I wonder why I bother. :)18:49
slestakLO is my favorite podcast, still enjoy it18:50
greg-gpersonally, I never really could get through a whole episode :/18:51
snap-lMe either18:51
slestakto each his own18:52
slestaki could never stand Jono's old one18:52
snap-lLugradio?18:52
slestakyeah18:52
snap-lThat was OK18:52
slestakliekd his short ones with whachamijiggy18:53
snap-lproblem is, most tech shows like that start to get very navelgazey.18:53
rick_h__now that lococast thing, that's one hot podcast :P18:53
slestak:)18:53
brouschfinally got a personal pastebin-like site up on dreamhost. now i don't have to mooch off of rick_h__ http://paste.clusterbleep.net/paste/18:55
rick_h__django? you're just trying to fire me up aren't you :P18:56
slestakyour no friend o django?18:57
slestakim not either, just wondering18:57
rick_h__no, huge fan of python, not a bit django fan18:57
rick_h__just like to give brousch a hard time18:57
brouschwell i tried the flask-based one first, but i couldn't get it running on DH18:58
slestakim not a web dev by any means, but i took a tour of framworks last year and I think I have settled on Flask for anything that comes up that I have work with18:58
Blazeixbrousch: the about page isn't working18:58
brouschBlazeix: heh, and i left debug on, oops18:58
rick_h__I like flask for small stuff18:58
Blazeixbut that's probably ok, no one ever visits about pages anyway :)18:59
binbrainbobo FTW18:59
binbrainonly framework that comes truly barebones and lets you plug what you want18:59
slestakbobo?19:00
slestaknot another to look at19:00
slestak;)19:00
rick_h__or webob or weurkzeug19:00
binbrainbobo uses webob and wsgi, that's it19:00
binbrainand provides decorators for routes19:00
snap-lThere's this new awesome framework for Python. It's so minimalist, it allows me to integrate whatever I want19:01
slestakflask uses weurk iirc and uses docrators for routes as well19:01
snap-lit's called "from whatever import *"19:01
binbrainties you to a templating language though19:01
brouschthe flask-based one looked nice. i just couldn't seem to get it hooked up with dreamhost's passenger wsgi19:01
slestakthat still blows my mind to use mod_ruby for wsgi19:01
snap-lslestak: Is it using Rack?19:02
slestaki dunno19:02
slestakpassenger == mod_ruby right?19:02
brouschif i create my own flask app i can get it working on there. i just can't get that pastebin one19:02
slestakis wsgia python creation?19:02
snap-lThought rack was thehotness that allowed ruby to run practically anywhere.19:02
binbrainslestak: sorda, but it shares a lot of similarities with cgi19:03
brouschso i fell back to my good buddy django to use django-dpaste19:03
slestaklets poke brousch some more.  nahh19:04
slestakflask one on GAE?19:04
slestaki just use pocoo.orgs pastebin19:04
brouschGAE has limited number of apps i can use, so i want to save my slots for high traffic stuff19:05
slestaktext eoncoding of binaries, base64 is the only smart choice?19:05
brouschthe pocoo one is what i couldn't get running19:05
slestakwindows and python is the env so uuencode isnt coming out19:06
brouschmy wtf of the day http://paste.clusterbleep.net/paste/iHb7/19:17
snap-lbrousch: Wow, that's some fugly.19:18
snap-lWho made this; accounting?19:19
brouschno, it is old19:19
snap-lOld like Cthulhu19:21
brouschso the WTF is that they do these two giant queries, then the final little part completely ignores everything they just calculated and uses a number calculated from completely different numbers19:21
brouschthe giant queries are run but their results are never used19:21
binbrainsomebody decided it would be a good idea to name conf files for 100s of systems by the MAC instead of hostname, I can't handle this19:22
snap-lbinbrain: There's only one way that would have been smart, and that's at a level where the only thing you deal with is the mac address.19:31
slestakanyone know if there is current unity breakage with nvidia cards?20:05
slestakthe same media that installed beta1 to my mini9 (intel chip) on my e1505 was responsive and usabel until I enabled nvidia driver, now everything looks ok, but ui will not register any mouse clicking anywhere.20:06
brouschslestak: supposedly nvdiai-173 has been fixed but nvidia-96 is still broken20:07
krondorslestak: I believe I'm affected by this; https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/compiz/+bug/733417 not sure what you're seeing.20:07
snap-lUpdated Open Metalcast to include some feedburner icons: http://openmetalcast.com/20:09
snap-la little annoyed that I couldn't use more than 7 characters without it getting overloaded20:10
slestakI cannot tell because I have not terminal.  I will need to enable ssh and come in that way.20:18
slestakI chose the (recommended) one from Hardware Drivers20:18
slestaktrying the No Effects login20:22
slestakthe NVIDIA X Server stiing reports version 270.41.06.20:23
slestakyeah, classic and unity sufferring the same.20:26
slestakI will try 173 explicitly and see if that is any better20:26
slestakapply the 420 updates first20:27
slestakexcuse, 47020:28
brouschslestak: yeah, install the updates first20:28
slestakesp since beta1, a LOT has changed20:29
brouschyes, beta2 is out and tons of updates since then20:32
snap-lhttp://loco.ubuntu.com/events/team/918/detail/ <- Need some participants for this panel discussion.20:35
ColonelPanic001I would volunteer, but I've never even seen Natty20:35
ColonelPanic001I might not be very well qualified20:36
snap-lColonelPanic001: Awesome, you're hired20:36
ColonelPanic001"What's the best feature of Natty" "Me, on panel: Well, you could install KDE, which is nice"20:37
snap-lFeel free to say that during the panel20:37
ColonelPanic001\o/20:37
snap-land I'll feel free to shove my foot up your ... ;)20:37
fdvalerowhen and where20:37
snap-lPenguicon, April 30th, 3pm20:37
slestaklol20:38
ColonelPanic001I'd really love to participate in stuff, I just don't have much to contribute to things, heh20:38
slestakit reboots very fast20:38
slestakwhat else20:38
ColonelPanic001"which is useful when reinstalling with KDE"20:38
snap-lAlso, any metalheads should definitely check out the Open Metalcast with Cloudkicker20:40
snap-lhttp://openmetalcast.com/2011/04/22/open-metalcast-special-episode-cloudkicker/20:40
snap-lSeriously good stuff20:40
jrwrenhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ugqaYJgv_F8#t=3m15s20:41
snap-lgrr... flash still busted.20:41
snap-lheh, WRCJ had a promo re: the music of The Robe (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0046247/)21:00
snap-lOne of the actors is named "Jean Simmons", but of course my post 1970s ears heard "Gene Simmons"21:00
snap-lWondered what the heck Gene Simmons would be doing in a movie about the early Christian Church21:01
jrwrenlol21:10
jrwrenthere is a japanese movie that is brilliant that you might like. It is called "Detroit Metal City".21:10
jcastrosnap-l: thanks for the retweet on the guide21:17
jcastroI've gotten like 0 coverage from any linux news site21:17
jcastroI guess my article must be too uncontroversial and useful21:18
snap-ljcastro: No kiddin21:18
snap-lI'm in linuxjournal helping someone out with Unity questions21:18
snap-lIs there a way to keep the mac menu always on?21:19
jcastrono unfortunately. :(21:20
snap-lUgh21:20
slestakinteresting.  all patches applied, rebooted numerous times.  nvidia-173 chosen explicitly.21:30
slestakgnome classic works, however, unity will not.  Even the Ubuntu gdm selection still loads gnome standard.21:30
slestakheading over to +121:31
snap-lAnyone able to post anything to reddit?22:32
nixternaljcastro: yeah, you have to post lies and fud. once you do that, every linux news site will link to you. today i realized just how fucking useless these so-called news sites really are22:36
snap-lI love that one of our sites for work is using Amazon's EC2, and is still down.22:37
jcastronixternal: Maybe it should be "unity power guide shuts down sounder"22:37
nixternali would post that22:37
snap-lnixternal: Yah, with your hate speech about sounder22:37
snap-lCanonical totally hates the community22:38
nixternalfuck doing intellectual posts that help people, they don't get google ads clicks. i am just going to start posting nonsense22:38
nixternalwell, more than i already post22:38
snap-lCanonical says babies are tastier with butter22:38
nixternallittle do people know, mark shuttleworth hates canonical22:38
snap-lCanonical - Made from people.22:39
jcastronixternal: I think the people acting like idiots are totally missing the point22:40
snap-lUbuntu - Causes High Cholesterol in 80% of users22:40
jcastronixternal: at first you might think "oh wait, maybe we should think about this"22:40
jcastroand then you see the tone of the responses22:40
jcastroand you're like "oh, well, it's obvious the right decision was made."22:40
nixternaljcastro: we are a linux distro for noobs, i expect nothing less than idiots. oh shit, and once they get wind of the fsf site, they become stallman hippies almost instantly and that makes them even worse22:41
snap-l"It's obvious Canonical hates teh free speach"22:41
gamerchick02lol. snap-l, wouldn't that make it soylent green?22:41
nixternalonce they realize if we did what stallman wanted, their computer would be nothing more than a pencil & a piece of paper22:41
jcastroyou shouldn't equate "noobs" with people acting stupid22:41
jcastrothey're not noobs because they are on a mailing list22:42
snap-lgamerchick02: That's going to be the name of the release when they announce THE TRUTH22:42
snap-l14.0422:43
gamerchick02ah22:43
nixternali do equate noobs that way though, and not all turn out that way. a vast majority do because they believe what they read and are so easy to be molded into an idiot22:43
gamerchick0214.04, Soylent Soybeans22:43
nixternalthat's just the way the mold falls i guess22:43
snap-lMARK YOUR CALENDARS FOR SOYLENT STALLION22:43
gamerchick02there we go. better than my soybeans one.22:43
gamerchick02i'd go for Sexy Stallion. so i can ask, "are you runing Sexy?"22:43
snap-lnixternal: Problem is folks try hard to fit in, so they lose sight of why they're part of the group in the first place22:44
nixternali am glad the idiots are going to gentoo. by the time they get it installed, setup, tweaked, and working, the desktop will be in high school history books22:44
gamerchick02ok. gamerchick02 + alcohol + irc = stupid comments. whoops.22:44
snap-land it's very easy to get sucked into group-think22:44
snap-lIt's harder to take a deep breath and be rational22:44
snap-land think "maybe I _am_ being a dick"22:45
snap-l Lene Lovich - It's Only You (Mein Schmerz) (SomaFM: Underground '80's)22:45
snap-l(heh, it's YOU)22:45
nixternaleveryone who comes around is so easy to brainwash. remember, i am the muppet master, i can mold and corrupt noobs with ease!22:45
snap-lno, that's not possible, master nixternal22:45
snap-ler, what? Where did that come from?22:45
nixternalyou need to check out ubuntu chicago. i got those puppets on a string. i tell them to switch to mac tomorrow they will22:46
gamerchick02where'd what come from, snap-l?22:46
snap-lgamerchick02: nixternal's brainwashing, no doubt.22:46
gamerchick02ah22:46
nixternali need some undiewashing22:46
snap-lhttp://finance.fortune.cnn.com/2011/04/22/sequoia-capital-backs-online-gaming-bundler/22:48
gamerchick02my tumblr's been taken over by Gene Kelly. Not that i'm complaining...22:48
snap-lHello, bubble22:48
gamerchick02snap-l, Humble Bubble?22:49
snap-lYeah, it's a name-your-price indie game promotion22:49
snap-lhttp://humblebundle.com22:49
snap-lthere's one going on right now22:49
jcastronixternal: speaking of mac muppetry, how is specialK doing?22:50
gamerchick02i know, snap-l, i've been a supporter22:50
gamerchick02not this time, but the past two, i have bought. split my money between linux and windows22:50
snap-lThis one is good, imho22:50
gamerchick02nice22:50
nixternaljcastro: he is mac muppetry big time dude. he is so anti-linux it isn't even funny. he has become a bit weird lately22:52

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