[00:01] <gamerchick02> cool. i'm off for some Nero Wolfe, i think
[00:01] <gamerchick02> see everyone tomorrow
[00:01] <gamerchick02> when are you doing the hacking for bookie? like time?
[02:00] <rick_h__> bwuhahaha: http://rick.bmark.us/recent click the -R- links :)
[02:00] <greg-g> rick_h__: yay!
[02:00] <rick_h__> all live, updated chrome extension and so from now all will always have my content parsed up
[02:01] <greg-g> awesome
[02:18] <rick_h__> nooooooooooooooo dammit, does all the EC2 crap mean my roky netflix is down?
[02:18] <jjesse> probably
[02:19] <rick_h__> crap, that was my chil plans
[02:19] <greg-g> :(
[02:21] <jjesse> sad trombone
[02:23] <greg-g> I sent the sadtrombone.com url in a one-line work email today :)
[02:23] <jjesse> nice
[03:10] <snap-l> brousch: Thank you. :) Glad you're liking it.
[03:12] <snap-l> What the hell is it with Yahoo Pulse not offering RSS feeds?
[03:12] <snap-l> n/m, found it
[13:14] <snap-l> Good morning
[13:15] <rick_h_35> party
[13:15] <brousch> yessir
[13:22] <greg-g> morn morn
[13:29] <snap-l> !openmetalcast's interview with Cloudkicker is now online. Learn more about this amazing band! http://ur1.ca/3xrsl
[14:35] <brousch> snap-l: is jamendo broken for you? i'm trying to play unconditional surrender here to see if it's the one i liked but it won't actually play http://www.jamendo.com/en/album/85606
[14:41] <snap-l> Yeah, it's not coming up
[14:41] <snap-l> I wonder if they're another AMZ casualty.
[14:41] <brousch> ok, thanks
[14:47] <snap-l> Actually, now it's working
[14:48] <snap-l> are you using the HTML5 player?
[14:49] <brousch> they must've fixed it
[14:50] <brousch> and, yep, that's the one
[14:51] <brousch> french death metal? who knew they had it in them?
[14:53] <snap-l> You haven't heard of Gojira, have you? :)
[14:53] <snap-l> French Death Metal that is heavy has anything out there.
[14:53] <brousch> i have not
[14:54] <brousch> i know very little beyond what master snap-l has taught me
[14:55] <snap-l> http://www.gojira-music.com/
[14:55] <snap-l> Unfortunately, my flash is completley fucked at the moment
[14:56] <snap-l> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v0B7I49fq_g
[14:57] <brousch> the site works for me
[14:57] <snap-l> Grr, I'm tired of people calling things podcasts that don't have enclosure tags
[14:57] <snap-l> brousch: Yeah, it's my problem to fix
[14:57] <snap-l> and I can't be bothered because The Daily Show is off this week
[14:58] <brousch> heh
[14:58] <snap-l> er, I mean, because I have more important things to worry about.
[15:02] <snap-l> Learning Python is on sale today at O'Reilly
[15:02] <snap-l> DD4PY is the coupon code.
[15:02] <snap-l> (eBook version)
[15:11] <smoser> jcastro, meant to tell you  yesterday, you post at http://castrojo.tumblr.com/post/4795149014/the-power-users-guide-to-unity is really good.
[18:03] <krondor> quiet today
[18:03] <greg-g> all the action is in #bookie ;)
[18:07] <krondor> ooh nice a del.icio.us alternative
[18:08] <snap-l> Sheesh, there's a lot of pain on identi.ca over the Fedora marketing
[18:08] <snap-l> Seriously, Joe has a great point, and fabsh isn't having any of it
[18:10] <rick_h__> oh no, you mean the fanbio won't listen to reason?
[18:12] <snap-l> Well, fabsh is pretty well making Joe's point
[18:14] <snap-l> and just thre my hat into the ring
[18:14] <brousch> snap-l: would you have stayed out out of it if you weren't on your period?
[18:15] <snap-l> brousch: And I was wondering how long you'd take... You're slowing down.
[18:15] <brousch> i was out to lunch :P
[18:15] <brousch> and jodee is awesome
[18:19] <snap-l> She agrees with your assessment. ;
[18:19] <snap-l> :)
[18:25] <slestak> hola peeps.
[18:25] <slestak> any of you that I discussed my beta2 ubiquity problem with, I posted a bunch more to the ticket today.
[18:26] <slestak> i installed and reinstalled beta1 and no problem.  I am going to dl and install beta2 again
[18:36] <snap-l> Oh it's on.
[18:37] <jjesse> snap-l like donkey kong?
[18:37] <slestak> i also installed opensuse for comparison and it installed w no drama
[18:38] <slestak> i had to hold my breath though.  I almost passed out.  I cannto handle rpm distros
[18:44] <snap-l> And I'm done.
[18:44] <greg-g> snap-l: just ignore the trolls
[18:44] <greg-g> he's a master
[18:44] <snap-l> Yeah, he is
[18:45] <rick_h__> fab?
[18:45] <snap-l> fabsh
[18:45] <rick_h__> he's a total troll, can't stand to listen to that podcast any more he's so bad
[18:46] <snap-l> http://identi.ca/notice/71703303 <- So tempted to say "Yeah, and you have to wake up to them every morning"
[18:47] <slestak> no way
[18:47] <slestak> unpossible
[18:47] <snap-l> but, letting my adult nature take over.
[18:48] <slestak> nm, i dont follow anythign on twitter or identica
[18:49] <snap-l> Some days I wonder why I bother. :)
[18:50] <slestak> LO is my favorite podcast, still enjoy it
[18:51] <greg-g> personally, I never really could get through a whole episode :/
[18:51] <snap-l> Me either
[18:52] <slestak> to each his own
[18:52] <slestak> i could never stand Jono's old one
[18:52] <snap-l> Lugradio?
[18:52] <slestak> yeah
[18:52] <snap-l> That was OK
[18:53] <slestak> liekd his short ones with whachamijiggy
[18:53] <snap-l> problem is, most tech shows like that start to get very navelgazey.
[18:53] <rick_h__> now that lococast thing, that's one hot podcast :P
[18:53] <slestak> :)
[18:55] <brousch> finally got a personal pastebin-like site up on dreamhost. now i don't have to mooch off of rick_h__ http://paste.clusterbleep.net/paste/
[18:56] <rick_h__> django? you're just trying to fire me up aren't you :P
[18:57] <slestak> your no friend o django?
[18:57] <slestak> im not either, just wondering
[18:57] <rick_h__> no, huge fan of python, not a bit django fan
[18:57] <rick_h__> just like to give brousch a hard time
[18:58] <brousch> well i tried the flask-based one first, but i couldn't get it running on DH
[18:58] <slestak> im not a web dev by any means, but i took a tour of framworks last year and I think I have settled on Flask for anything that comes up that I have work with
[18:58] <Blazeix> brousch: the about page isn't working
[18:58] <brousch> Blazeix: heh, and i left debug on, oops
[18:58] <rick_h__> I like flask for small stuff
[18:59] <Blazeix> but that's probably ok, no one ever visits about pages anyway :)
[18:59] <binbrain> bobo FTW
[18:59] <binbrain> only framework that comes truly barebones and lets you plug what you want
[19:00] <slestak> bobo?
[19:00] <slestak> not another to look at
[19:00] <slestak> ;)
[19:00] <rick_h__> or webob or weurkzeug
[19:00] <binbrain> bobo uses webob and wsgi, that's it
[19:00] <binbrain> and provides decorators for routes
[19:01] <snap-l> There's this new awesome framework for Python. It's so minimalist, it allows me to integrate whatever I want
[19:01] <slestak> flask uses weurk iirc and uses docrators for routes as well
[19:01] <snap-l> it's called "from whatever import *"
[19:01] <binbrain> ties you to a templating language though
[19:01] <brousch> the flask-based one looked nice. i just couldn't seem to get it hooked up with dreamhost's passenger wsgi
[19:01] <slestak> that still blows my mind to use mod_ruby for wsgi
[19:02] <snap-l> slestak: Is it using Rack?
[19:02] <slestak> i dunno
[19:02] <slestak> passenger == mod_ruby right?
[19:02] <brousch> if i create my own flask app i can get it working on there. i just can't get that pastebin one
[19:02] <slestak> is wsgia python creation?
[19:02] <snap-l> Thought rack was thehotness that allowed ruby to run practically anywhere.
[19:03] <binbrain> slestak: sorda, but it shares a lot of similarities with cgi
[19:03] <brousch> so i fell back to my good buddy django to use django-dpaste
[19:04] <slestak> lets poke brousch some more.  nahh
[19:04] <slestak> flask one on GAE?
[19:04] <slestak> i just use pocoo.orgs pastebin
[19:05] <brousch> GAE has limited number of apps i can use, so i want to save my slots for high traffic stuff
[19:05] <slestak> text eoncoding of binaries, base64 is the only smart choice?
[19:05] <brousch> the pocoo one is what i couldn't get running
[19:06] <slestak> windows and python is the env so uuencode isnt coming out
[19:17] <brousch> my wtf of the day http://paste.clusterbleep.net/paste/iHb7/
[19:18] <snap-l> brousch: Wow, that's some fugly.
[19:19] <snap-l> Who made this; accounting?
[19:19] <brousch> no, it is old
[19:21] <snap-l> Old like Cthulhu
[19:21] <brousch> so the WTF is that they do these two giant queries, then the final little part completely ignores everything they just calculated and uses a number calculated from completely different numbers
[19:21] <brousch> the giant queries are run but their results are never used
[19:22] <binbrain> somebody decided it would be a good idea to name conf files for 100s of systems by the MAC instead of hostname, I can't handle this
[19:31] <snap-l> binbrain: There's only one way that would have been smart, and that's at a level where the only thing you deal with is the mac address.
[20:05] <slestak> anyone know if there is current unity breakage with nvidia cards?
[20:06] <slestak> the same media that installed beta1 to my mini9 (intel chip) on my e1505 was responsive and usabel until I enabled nvidia driver, now everything looks ok, but ui will not register any mouse clicking anywhere.
[20:07] <brousch> slestak: supposedly nvdiai-173 has been fixed but nvidia-96 is still broken
[20:07] <krondor> slestak: I believe I'm affected by this; https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/compiz/+bug/733417 not sure what you're seeing.
[20:09] <snap-l> Updated Open Metalcast to include some feedburner icons: http://openmetalcast.com/
[20:10] <snap-l> a little annoyed that I couldn't use more than 7 characters without it getting overloaded
[20:18] <slestak> I cannot tell because I have not terminal.  I will need to enable ssh and come in that way.
[20:18] <slestak> I chose the (recommended) one from Hardware Drivers
[20:22] <slestak> trying the No Effects login
[20:23] <slestak> the NVIDIA X Server stiing reports version 270.41.06.
[20:26] <slestak> yeah, classic and unity sufferring the same.
[20:26] <slestak> I will try 173 explicitly and see if that is any better
[20:27] <slestak> apply the 420 updates first
[20:28] <slestak> excuse, 470
[20:28] <brousch> slestak: yeah, install the updates first
[20:29] <slestak> esp since beta1, a LOT has changed
[20:32] <brousch> yes, beta2 is out and tons of updates since then
[20:35] <snap-l> http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/team/918/detail/ <- Need some participants for this panel discussion.
[20:35] <ColonelPanic001> I would volunteer, but I've never even seen Natty
[20:36] <ColonelPanic001> I might not be very well qualified
[20:36] <snap-l> ColonelPanic001: Awesome, you're hired
[20:37] <ColonelPanic001> "What's the best feature of Natty" "Me, on panel: Well, you could install KDE, which is nice"
[20:37] <snap-l> Feel free to say that during the panel
[20:37] <ColonelPanic001> \o/
[20:37] <snap-l> and I'll feel free to shove my foot up your ... ;)
[20:37] <fdvalero> when and where
[20:37] <snap-l> Penguicon, April 30th, 3pm
[20:38] <slestak> lol
[20:38] <ColonelPanic001> I'd really love to participate in stuff, I just don't have much to contribute to things, heh
[20:38] <slestak> it reboots very fast
[20:38] <slestak> what else
[20:38] <ColonelPanic001> "which is useful when reinstalling with KDE"
[20:40] <snap-l> Also, any metalheads should definitely check out the Open Metalcast with Cloudkicker
[20:40] <snap-l> http://openmetalcast.com/2011/04/22/open-metalcast-special-episode-cloudkicker/
[20:40] <snap-l> Seriously good stuff
[20:41] <jrwren> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ugqaYJgv_F8#t=3m15s
[20:41] <snap-l> grr... flash still busted.
[21:00] <snap-l> heh, WRCJ had a promo re: the music of The Robe (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0046247/)
[21:00] <snap-l> One of the actors is named "Jean Simmons", but of course my post 1970s ears heard "Gene Simmons"
[21:01] <snap-l> Wondered what the heck Gene Simmons would be doing in a movie about the early Christian Church
[21:10] <jrwren> lol
[21:10] <jrwren> there is a japanese movie that is brilliant that you might like. It is called "Detroit Metal City".
[21:17] <jcastro> snap-l: thanks for the retweet on the guide
[21:17] <jcastro> I've gotten like 0 coverage from any linux news site
[21:18] <jcastro> I guess my article must be too uncontroversial and useful
[21:18] <snap-l> jcastro: No kiddin
[21:18] <snap-l> I'm in linuxjournal helping someone out with Unity questions
[21:19] <snap-l> Is there a way to keep the mac menu always on?
[21:20] <jcastro> no unfortunately. :(
[21:20] <snap-l> Ugh
[21:30] <slestak> interesting.  all patches applied, rebooted numerous times.  nvidia-173 chosen explicitly.
[21:30] <slestak> gnome classic works, however, unity will not.  Even the Ubuntu gdm selection still loads gnome standard.
[21:31] <slestak> heading over to +1
[22:32] <snap-l> Anyone able to post anything to reddit?
[22:36] <nixternal> jcastro: yeah, you have to post lies and fud. once you do that, every linux news site will link to you. today i realized just how fucking useless these so-called news sites really are
[22:37] <snap-l> I love that one of our sites for work is using Amazon's EC2, and is still down.
[22:37] <jcastro> nixternal: Maybe it should be "unity power guide shuts down sounder"
[22:37] <nixternal> i would post that
[22:37] <snap-l> nixternal: Yah, with your hate speech about sounder
[22:38] <snap-l> Canonical totally hates the community
[22:38] <nixternal> fuck doing intellectual posts that help people, they don't get google ads clicks. i am just going to start posting nonsense
[22:38] <nixternal> well, more than i already post
[22:38] <snap-l> Canonical says babies are tastier with butter
[22:38] <nixternal> little do people know, mark shuttleworth hates canonical
[22:39] <snap-l> Canonical - Made from people.
[22:40] <jcastro> nixternal: I think the people acting like idiots are totally missing the point
[22:40] <snap-l> Ubuntu - Causes High Cholesterol in 80% of users
[22:40] <jcastro> nixternal: at first you might think "oh wait, maybe we should think about this"
[22:40] <jcastro> and then you see the tone of the responses
[22:40] <jcastro> and you're like "oh, well, it's obvious the right decision was made."
[22:41] <nixternal> jcastro: we are a linux distro for noobs, i expect nothing less than idiots. oh shit, and once they get wind of the fsf site, they become stallman hippies almost instantly and that makes them even worse
[22:41] <snap-l> "It's obvious Canonical hates teh free speach"
[22:41] <gamerchick02> lol. snap-l, wouldn't that make it soylent green?
[22:41] <nixternal> once they realize if we did what stallman wanted, their computer would be nothing more than a pencil & a piece of paper
[22:41] <jcastro> you shouldn't equate "noobs" with people acting stupid
[22:42] <jcastro> they're not noobs because they are on a mailing list
[22:42] <snap-l> gamerchick02: That's going to be the name of the release when they announce THE TRUTH
[22:43] <snap-l> 14.04
[22:43] <gamerchick02> ah
[22:43] <nixternal> i do equate noobs that way though, and not all turn out that way. a vast majority do because they believe what they read and are so easy to be molded into an idiot
[22:43] <gamerchick02> 14.04, Soylent Soybeans
[22:43] <nixternal> that's just the way the mold falls i guess
[22:43] <snap-l> MARK YOUR CALENDARS FOR SOYLENT STALLION
[22:43] <gamerchick02> there we go. better than my soybeans one.
[22:43] <gamerchick02> i'd go for Sexy Stallion. so i can ask, "are you runing Sexy?"
[22:44] <snap-l> nixternal: Problem is folks try hard to fit in, so they lose sight of why they're part of the group in the first place
[22:44] <nixternal> i am glad the idiots are going to gentoo. by the time they get it installed, setup, tweaked, and working, the desktop will be in high school history books
[22:44] <gamerchick02> ok. gamerchick02 + alcohol + irc = stupid comments. whoops.
[22:44] <snap-l> and it's very easy to get sucked into group-think
[22:44] <snap-l> It's harder to take a deep breath and be rational
[22:45] <snap-l> and think "maybe I _am_ being a dick"
[22:45] <snap-l>  Lene Lovich - It's Only You (Mein Schmerz) (SomaFM: Underground '80's)
[22:45] <snap-l> (heh, it's YOU)
[22:45] <nixternal> everyone who comes around is so easy to brainwash. remember, i am the muppet master, i can mold and corrupt noobs with ease!
[22:45] <snap-l> no, that's not possible, master nixternal
[22:45] <snap-l> er, what? Where did that come from?
[22:46] <nixternal> you need to check out ubuntu chicago. i got those puppets on a string. i tell them to switch to mac tomorrow they will
[22:46] <gamerchick02> where'd what come from, snap-l?
[22:46] <snap-l> gamerchick02: nixternal's brainwashing, no doubt.
[22:46] <gamerchick02> ah
[22:46] <nixternal> i need some undiewashing
[22:48] <snap-l> http://finance.fortune.cnn.com/2011/04/22/sequoia-capital-backs-online-gaming-bundler/
[22:48] <gamerchick02> my tumblr's been taken over by Gene Kelly. Not that i'm complaining...
[22:48] <snap-l> Hello, bubble
[22:49] <gamerchick02> snap-l, Humble Bubble?
[22:49] <snap-l> Yeah, it's a name-your-price indie game promotion
[22:49] <snap-l> http://humblebundle.com
[22:49] <snap-l> there's one going on right now
[22:50] <jcastro> nixternal: speaking of mac muppetry, how is specialK doing?
[22:50] <gamerchick02> i know, snap-l, i've been a supporter
[22:50] <gamerchick02> not this time, but the past two, i have bought. split my money between linux and windows
[22:50] <snap-l> This one is good, imho
[22:50] <gamerchick02> nice
[22:52] <nixternal> jcastro: he is mac muppetry big time dude. he is so anti-linux it isn't even funny. he has become a bit weird lately