[03:57] <ChinnoDog> nap soon
[06:53] <InHisName> gone down for a nap yet ?
[06:54] <InHisName> anyone who can advise fixing any erorrs in setting up bind would be helpful  http://pastebin.ca/2048322
[06:54] <PennBot> Title: pastebin - Untitled - post number 2048322 (at pastebin.ca)
[14:12] <knightzero> Morning all
[14:22] <JonathanD> hi
[14:24] <andrew> morning
[14:26] <knightzero> How is everyone on this chilly morning?
[14:38] <andrew> At work
[14:38] <andrew> oh, how
[14:38] <andrew> doing fine
[14:58] <JonathanD> chilly
[14:59]  * teddy-dbear is just chillin'
[15:00] <ChinnoDog> hungry, headachy
[15:19] <ChinnoDog> Gotta clear my work for the morning so I can hit the local coffee shop
[16:31] <ChinnoDog> mm, chai latte
[16:31] <knightzero> Sounds like a good start to the morning, ChinnoDog.
[16:33] <ChinnoDog> Yes. Got a long john too. There is a coffee shop up the road I like.
[16:34] <ChinnoDog> I can only go when I am working from home though.
[16:58] <jrmy> any of you know how to make the computer select a different audio card?
[16:58] <jrmy> ive got my onboard and a soundcard i just put in.. i also reran alsaconfig or whatever the actual command is
[16:59] <jrmy> but i can only get sound from my onboard.. i guess im dumb and didnt realise you cant actually select the sound card in alsamixere
[16:59] <jrmy> -e
[16:59] <andrew> hrm
[16:59] <knightzero> Sound preferences>hardware to confirm that both are detected, then I set my output via the output tab in the same window.
[16:59] <TheEvilPhoenix> jrmy:  out of curiosity, what's the sound card you just put in?
[17:00] <jrmy> where is sound preferences?
[17:00] <jrmy> its a sb live card or something
[17:00] <TheEvilPhoenix> soundblaster?
[17:00] <jrmy> ive used it before
[17:00] <jrmy> yeah
[17:00] <jrmy> should be soundblaster
[17:00] <knightzero> I'm going by gnome here, but i click the audio icon on the toolbar
[17:00] <knightzero> and sound preferences is at the bottom of the dropdown.
[17:00] <jrmy> yeah ive got an xfce gui
[17:00] <TheEvilPhoenix> jrmy:  System > Administration > Hardware Drivers (10.04)
[17:00] <TheEvilPhoenix> oooh
[17:00] <TheEvilPhoenix> xfce
[17:01] <TheEvilPhoenix> i wonder where I put my 10.10 image...
[17:01] <jrmy> sorry should mention that
[17:01] <TheEvilPhoenix> no no its fine
[17:01] <jrmy> oh and i have 10.04
[17:01] <TheEvilPhoenix> i have a vbox'd xfce image here somewhere...
[17:01] <jrmy> seeing as 10.10 wouldnt work on this
[17:01]  * TheEvilPhoenix runs in his terminal 'locate xubuntu'
[17:01] <TheEvilPhoenix> oh... that's unsettling
[17:02] <TheEvilPhoenix> it seems my system is purging files without my knowledge...
[17:02]  * TheEvilPhoenix redownloads a 10.04 xubuntu image
[17:02] <jrmy> i suppose i could record audio with my onboard.. but i dont know if it'll work well enough
[17:03] <jrmy> and i want at least 48khz
[17:03] <knightzero> jrmy: do you have gnome on the sytem at all - if so, you might be able to run gnome-sound-properties from the CLI.
[17:03] <jrmy> which the sb card can do
[17:03] <jrmy> CLI?
[17:03] <TheEvilPhoenix> command line
[17:03] <TheEvilPhoenix> aka
[17:03] <TheEvilPhoenix> TERMINAL
[17:03] <TheEvilPhoenix> whoops caps
[17:03] <jrmy> oh..
[17:03] <jrmy> never heard it as cli bnefore
[17:04] <knightzero> That's just me being too lazy to type words. :)  Terminal is what I meant there.
[17:04] <jrmy> nope i think the only gnome programs i have are the system monitor and maybe a image viewer
[17:05] <jrmy> i may have installed another but its been awhile since ive used this computer
[17:06] <jrmy> .. wish i had more ram..
[17:06] <jrmy> 128MB does not cut it
[17:06] <jrmy> dont think i have enough to upgrade right now either
[17:06] <jrmy> at least i thought a 512 stick was liek $50
[17:08] <jrmy> i guess in some ways i'd rather use ubuntu seeing as i liek how it runs in comparison to xubuntu
[17:09] <jrmy> but obviously cant run it well enough on this computer
[17:09] <knightzero> jrmy: what kind of memory are you looking for?  If its DDR you need, I might have a spare 128/256 stick - not much of an upgrade, but I'm willing to part with it for free.
[17:10] <jrmy> umm sd pc 133 i think it is
[17:10] <jrmy> i believe the first sd ram
[17:10] <jrmy> dunno never looked into it that much
[17:10] <knightzero> notebook or desktop?  I might have some of that on hand as well.
[17:10] <jrmy> my computer is kinda old
[17:10] <jrmy> desktop
[17:11] <jrmy> i woudl of said the pin amount but i dont remember the number
[17:11] <knightzero> I'll put in a reminder to check my memory stash when I get home.  I might be able to help you out with a small memory boost at least.
[17:12] <jrmy> ok cool.. yeah i had more then 128 but i found out that one of the sticks had errors which was causing the computer to run improperly
[17:12] <jrmy> was probably a 256
[17:12] <jrmy> which sucks.. lol
[17:13] <jrmy> yeah i think ive had 2 256 sticks go bad on me
[17:13] <jrmy> weird
[17:14] <jrmy> so i guess i could install gnome sound properties
[17:14] <jrmy> unless maybe theres a better solution to my problem
[17:14] <knightzero> Before you do that, try running xfce4-mixer from the terminal
[17:15] <knightzero> I'm grasping at straws here, but it's worth a shot.
[17:16] <jrmy> it was actually xfce4-mixer
[17:16] <jrmy> but yeH it worked
[17:17] <jrmy> now to see if it switched my soundcard
[17:17] <ChinnoDog> PC133? Your computer must be prehistoric.
[17:17] <jrmy> pen3 @ 900mhz
[17:19] <jrmy> hmm still not working.. sound is still coming out of my onboard
[17:21] <jrmy> ChinnoDog: i'd love to upgrade.. just comnputers are to expensive.. i actually found this one on the street to be thrown out
[17:21] <jrmy> had some spyware and viruses so i reinstalled the OS
[17:21] <ChinnoDog> aww, you rescued a homeless computer
[17:22] <jrmy> well its better then my old desktop
[17:22] <jrmy> i still liek finding free computers
[17:23] <jrmy> and until i could get $1k i'll take just about anything
[17:23] <knightzero> My intro to open source came the same way, thanks to an old Pentium I found next to a dumpster.  Homeless computers are fun to resurrect.
[17:23] <jrmy> besides its fun building a computer
[17:23] <jrmy> agreed
[17:24] <jrmy> another channel said i could rmmod the onboard module.. but i dont know if i'd want to do that
[17:24] <jrmy> they stopped helping though
[17:25] <jrmy> thats why im talking in this one
[17:25] <knightzero> You know, I just thought of something - if your secondary card isn't functioning, there's a possibility that its a hardware limitation.
[17:26] <knightzero> I know my old PIII laptop had a USB 1.1 port - my logitech USB headset detected, but wouldn't function no matter what I did.
[17:26] <jrmy> well that would only be the case because of limited ram
[17:26] <jrmy> ive used this card before i removed the stick
[17:27] <knightzero> Hmm.  That theory is out the window, then.
[17:27] <jrmy> i only had to remove it because i thought it was causing problems..
[17:29] <jrmy> i think it was working when i reinstalled xubuntu 10.04 but after idk now
[17:29] <jrmy> -after
[17:30] <jrmy> suppose i can try recording with my onboard then
[17:31] <knightzero> That might be your best best if switching between isn't working - I'm stumped on why that would stop working suddenly, though.
[17:31] <jrmy> well thanks anyways
[17:32] <jrmy> i'll be back some other time
[18:07] <Irishmanluke> any life fans around?
[18:08] <ChinnoDog> I like to live
[18:08] <Irishmanluke> game of life
[18:08] <ChinnoDog> You didn't say that
[18:08] <Irishmanluke> well I'm saying it now
[18:10] <andrew> as in the milton bradley game?
[18:14] <InHisName> anyone who can advise fixing any erorrs in setting up bind would be helpful  http://pastebin.ca/2048322
[18:14] <PennBot> Title: pastebin - Untitled - post number 2048322 (at pastebin.ca)
[19:14] <TheEvilPhoenix> any of you know if its possible to install XFCE desktop alongside Gnome desktop without breaking one or the other?
[19:19] <andrew> Yes it is
[19:19] <andrew> You select which you want to log into at the login screen
[19:23] <jedijf> @later tell jrmy disable onboard audio in *bios*
[19:23] <PennBot> jedijf: The operation succeeded.
[19:24] <andrew> sounds like a workaround
[19:25] <jedijf> no, a work around is removing the module....this way the module never loads, nothing to choose, assuming the plug in is recognized/works
[19:26] <andrew> No, the operating system should be able to send output to whichever sound device is desired.
[19:26] <jedijf> it can....jrmy can't
[19:27] <jedijf> sometimes the path of least resistance works best...at least for *my* own mental health...and then if/when they get to that level they can do it themselves
[20:22] <jedijf> site's up: http://fubarlabs.com/
[20:22] <PennBot> Title: FUBAR labs (at fubarlabs.com)
[20:25] <jedijf> wrong channel
[20:25] <jedijf> state too
[22:10] <InHisName> High there jedijf still reading ?
[22:12] <InHisName> Nope not that active this second, prolly driving somewhere.