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ryemornings08:11
evilduanedesignhello rye08:27
ryeevilduanedesign, hmmm08:28
ryeevilduanedesign, morning, evil duanedesign!08:28
evilduanedesignI am on my windows machine :)08:28
ryeneed futures team, to ask for OAuth208:52
karniGood morning!10:06
faganmorning karni and rye10:24
karnihi fagan10:24
duanedesignmorning karni fagan10:24
karnirye around? as always it would seem :) hi rye!10:24
karnihi duanedesign !10:24
faganmorning duanedesign10:25
ryekarni, fagan, mornings!10:25
faganrye: they dont have good friday where you live?10:26
ryefagan, I suppose they don't since this is not declared as a national holiday; Or you know what, it looks like this is due to calendar shift which our outdated orthodox church is still using. Did you know that we have Christmas on 7th of January?10:28
karnirye: o_O :D10:28
ryehowever this does not make much sense since Easter is celebrated this Sunday....10:29
ryekarni, yes, and we have "Old New Year" on 14th of January :)10:29
karnirye: That's funny =)10:29
ryekarni, not an official holiday, though, since it does not make sense, but that term exists.10:29
karnirye: I see :)10:31
faganrye: we call that little christmas10:36
duanedesignrye: ping12:28
duanedesignsudo sysctl fs.inotify.max_user_watches=524288 is that persistent or should user append /etc/sysctl.conf ?12:47
ryeduanedesign, should be appended to sysctl conf or written to some sysctl.d file; It used to be put there by trackerd12:50
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dobeyla la la14:04
karninana na na14:05
karnidobey: "Learn to fly" by Foo Fighters here. you listening to something?14:06
dobeyrye: i think the proper term for that holiday is, Saturnalia14:06
dobeykarni: nope. is that a cover of Pink Floyd's "Learning to Fly" ?14:06
karnidobey: no idea, fast forward first 30 seconds http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1VQ_3sBZEm014:07
karnidobey: I don't think it's a cover, is it?14:07
dobeynope14:08
dobeyi've heard that before though, just didn't recall the title :)14:08
karniyup, same here =D14:10
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dobeykarni: want to do another terribly difficult review? :)14:52
Neotihi all . i placed some files in ubuntu one last night from my phone and there not synced its been 14 hours now and it still just says syncronising... theres 230MB of photos, now i also placed half these in drop box and there all synced and stuff but ubuntu one has not synced any files... any help ?14:53
karnidobey: hell yea :D hhahah14:54
dobeykarni: or maybe you should help Neoti14:54
karniNeoti: what have you used to put them "from your phone" to Ubuntu One?14:55
karniNeoti: was it Ubuntu One Files application?14:55
Neotii copied them from the phone to my pictures folder and disconnected the phone the files are in the pictures folder and have the sync icon over them still ...14:56
karnidobey: that's purely Ubuntu One issue, these have not been uploaded from the phone.14:56
karnirye: could you give your helpful hand here?14:57
dobeyoh, it sounded like an android issue :)14:57
dobeykarni: ok, https://code.launchpad.net/~dobey/libubuntuone/bump-version/+merge/58814 :)14:58
karnidobey: yes it did. but I knew with U1F you could only upload one by one, so it'd be pretty hardcore to upload 230megs of pictures that way :D14:58
Neotiwhen i started with ubuntu one i placed some files in the pictured folder and they uploaded and everything worked etc .. i have just come back to put some pictures in there again and its not ... and apart from doing normal updates that ubuntu asks me .. nothing else has changed ...14:58
dobeykarni: maybe he was shooting in raw with a 20 megapixel cameraphone :)14:58
Neotithe files are on my computer in the pictures dir which i have asked ubuntu one to sync ...14:58
dobeyNeoti: what version of ubuntu are you on?14:59
karnidobey: true ;D btw I looked at the number and thought.. "huh.. why 0.11", but then I saw merge description, and.. +1 ;D14:59
dobeykarni: heh, yeah, stable-0-10 branch is already 0.10 :)14:59
Neotiubuntu 10.1014:59
karniNeoti: the Pictures folder from your home directory, right?14:59
Neotiyep pictures in home ... normal place15:00
Neoti:)15:00
karniNeoti: and you right clicked and -> Sync with Ubuntu One, correct?15:00
dobeyNeoti: if you open System -> Preferences -> Ubuntu One; what does it say for status?15:00
karnidobey: thanks dobey for taking this on. I was just heading out for lunch.15:01
Neotisync in progress15:01
Neotibeen that way since i copied the files to the folder last night15:01
Neotiif i look on the ubuntu one web site i can seethe folders but no files...15:01
ryeNeoti, i suggest you look at http://askubuntu.com/questions/16592/how-can-i-tell-whether-ubuntu-one-file-sync-is-working-and-what-progress-it-is-m15:01
dobeyNeoti: can you open a terminal and run "u1sdtool -s" and let me know what that says please?15:01
dobeyoh hi rye15:02
NeotiState: QUEUE_MANAGER15:03
Neoti    connection: With User With Network15:03
Neoti    description: processing queues15:03
Neoti    is_connected: True15:03
Neoti    is_error: False15:03
Neoti    is_online: True15:03
Neoti    queues: WORKING_ON_BOTH15:03
dobeyhrmm, it seems like it might have gotten stuck15:09
dobeyNeoti: if you click "Restart" in the devices tab in the preferences, does it help?15:09
Neotinope still not doing anything .... also i can not runn ulsdtool --current-transfers tells me i have to install it... but when i do it says it can not find ulsdtool and when i try and install ubuntuone-client package says its installed... so i can not see whats going on ...15:11
ryeNeoti, it is u1 (Ubuntu One- u1) u1sdtool --current-transfers15:12
ryeNeoti, you might want to install ubuntuone-indicator, run it and see whether meta/content queue decreases15:13
Neotihelps if i use the right commands ... lol also current-transfers shows uploads 0 and downloads 015:13
ryeNeoti, ok, what's returned by running: u1sdtool --waiting-meta | wc -l15:15
NeotiTraceback (most recent call last):15:16
NeotiFailure: dbus.exceptions.DBusException: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.Spawn.ChildExited: Process /usr/lib/ubuntuone-client/ubuntuone-syncdaemon exited with status 115:16
Neoti215:16
ryeNeoti, wow15:18
ryeNeoti, could you please run  /usr/lib/ubuntuone-client/ubuntuone-syncdaemon and paste the output to http://paste.ubuntu.com and give us the link to the pasted info?15:18
NeotiAnother instance is running15:19
Neotiumm i think it is doing something .... i have the indicator and it says 7 m to something ... lol15:20
Neotiok i have the indicator and magicada installed and im watching meta data stuff decrease .. i will just wait for this and see what happens15:24
Neotiok so after 14 hours its now only just sending the files to ubuntu one .... !!!!!!! lol .........15:31
Neotijust out of intrest why does it take longer for ubuntu one then dropbox ?15:31
dobeyNeoti: https://twitter.com/#!/dohbee/status/6069879630844313715:32
dobeyNeoti: we've made some significant speed improvements recently. we want to get them backported for 10.04 and 10.10 users as well, but that is a challenging task to get such significant changes into stable releases of ubuntu :)15:34
Neotiall i see is a tweet about ubuntu one being 200x faster in 11.04... guess i have to wait untll 11.04 ?15:34
Neotioh ok then ... guess i just need to be more patient .... i am planning to cut off drop box soon and just use ubuntu one for everything cos i like to keep everything together and in one place with no other 3rd party stuff ... and i have a andriod phone too so can do contacts and other awesome stuff ...15:35
dobeywell you could upgrade now. or you could use our "nightlies" PPA, but i suspect that will get very bumpy soon, and not sure how much longer it will continue working on 10.10; so not something i'd generally recommend unless you want to help test the latest code and report lots of bugs and such. :)15:37
dobeybut 11.04 release day is less than a week away at this point15:37
thisfredCardinalFang: if I make a stable branch of desktopcouch, do you think it would be a good idea to finally merge the proxy branch, so we can start kicking the tires and see whether it's a good idea for Ornery?15:39
dobeythisfred: i think it's a good idea, but we are going to rewrite in vala :)15:41
thisfreddobey, well, we might as well test whether the idea works15:42
thisfreddobey: I'm not yet sure if I'm in favour of rewriting all of d-c or just desktopcouch.application. I think that's the part that's biting us over and over15:43
thisfreddobey: I see the attraction in doing it all15:43
thisfredbut it'll be work15:43
thisfreddobey: for instance, I don't know if there's a good vala/c json library we can use15:44
dobeythisfred: well, the only real work is the part that talks to couchdb. and we basically have that in C already15:44
dobeythisfred: json-glib15:44
thisfredok, cool15:44
dobeythisfred: i think the first logical step is "rewrite couchdb-glib in vala"15:45
thisfredmakes sense15:45
thisfredIt'll be good vala practice for me15:46
dobeyoh i guess the other really hard part, is windows :(15:47
thisfredyou can use vala on windows though, right?15:47
dobeyit should be possible to build a win32 app from vala sources, yes15:48
dobeybut we have to deal all the stupid issues15:48
dobeyie, dbus, named pipes, etc15:48
thisfredright.15:49
dobeyand dealing with how we actually manage to compile the code15:52
dobeythough i am quite happy to say that we compile stuff under cygwin and VS can rot in a pit somewhere15:52
dobeythisfred: anyway, i don't think we should do any work in that specific direction until UDS at least15:53
thisfredWasn't gonna (well, I'm reading the vala manual and tutorials, but I'm guessing that won't be wasted in any case)15:54
dobeywhere we discuss some of these issues over beer, rather than over irc15:54
thisfredah so you want aquarius in on the discussion, eh? ;)15:54
dobeyi don't know if he needs to be, but mandel/ralsina/rodrigo/you/myself15:55
thisfredThat's probably a good idea anyway15:55
thisfredyeah, shame chad's not gonna be there15:55
dobeyalso thinking couchdb-glib and evolution-couchdb might be better off being hosted on LP15:56
dobeyanyway15:57
dobeythisfred: can you give a second quick review of https://code.launchpad.net/~dobey/libubuntuone/bump-version/+merge/58814 ?15:58
thisfredsure thang15:58
thisfreddobey: done15:58
dobeythisfred: hrmm, actually, what all bits of desktopcouch do we use on the server?16:09
dobeythisfred: just the recordtypes?16:09
thisfreddobey: everything that's not in application16:09
thisfreddobey: but we'16:10
thisfredre using an old version in sourcedeps16:10
dobeyright. was just thinking Vala/C will be annoying to deploy there16:10
thisfredyeah16:11
thisfredwell, I think porting dc.application will be the biggest win anyway16:11
thisfredthat's where 112% of the problems live16:11
dobeyheh16:11
dobeysure. and recordtypes is basically just metadata16:12
dobeyand i don't remember what all records does16:12
dobeywill have to look at it a bit more16:12
thisfredrecords is basically just convenience for python clients, I wouldn't port that to vala anyway16:13
thisfredI doubt we can provide all of that in c16:15
dobeybbiab, time for lunch16:26
karniduanedesign: wake up :)16:38
duanedesign(-.-)~zzZZ16:40
duanedesign:)16:40
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jdobriendoes anyone know if the ubuntu one desktop client relies on https://one.ubuntu.com/api/storage/ URLS?19:03
dobeyjdobrien: i don't think it does19:07
dobeyat least, not yet19:07
jdobriendobey, it won't...they are going away19:07
dobeyhrmm, actually19:08
jdobriendobey, it should use some under /api for getting user info, also may use /files/api to do share stuff19:08
dobeyah no, we do use /files/api/ though19:09
jdobrienk19:09
dobeyand /api/account/ yes19:09
jdobrienyeah19:09
dobeysagebrush21:16
dobeylater all21:34

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