virtu | finally mi first screenshot with my new mac | 03:17 |
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virtu | http://i.imgur.com/ix1c4.jpg | 03:17 |
virtu | =) | 03:17 |
gglitch | Hi people. Question, and apologies if this data is more readily available some other more obvious place: how do you think I'll do tracking very simple audio projects in Ubustu on a netbook, 1g ram? | 03:39 |
holstein | gglitch: i do it | 03:39 |
holstein | i have a 1.2 via chip with a gig of ram | 03:39 |
holstein | and a nice firewire express card with TI chip | 03:39 |
gglitch | Thanks. That's what I have, I think. Dell mini. | 03:39 |
holstein | i can get around 5ms actually | 03:39 |
gglitch | I'll be using an e-mu 0404 | 03:39 |
gglitch | usb | 03:40 |
holstein | no xruns | 03:40 |
holstein | but i usually dont push it that hard | 03:40 |
gglitch | excellent. That's encouraging. | 03:40 |
holstein | gglitch: if you can play around with jack settings a bit | 03:40 |
holstein | you'll be fine | 03:40 |
holstein | gglitch: check out #opensourcemusicians if you get a chance :) | 03:40 |
gglitch | ok! thanks for the tip - I'll head on over. I've seen kxstudio mentioned in other threads - are you familiar with it? | 03:41 |
holstein | gglitch: i use the KXsudio ppa's with lucid | 03:41 |
holstein | studio* | 03:41 |
holstein | falktx is an active contributor to our community :) | 03:41 |
holstein | *falktx is the KX dev | 03:42 |
gglitch | Since I'm going with a fresh install, would it be more expedient to just install kx? And thanks. | 03:42 |
holstein | gglitch: the KX disc is live | 03:42 |
holstein | so if you have the time, bandwidth and a disc | 03:43 |
holstein | try it | 03:43 |
holstein | its KDE, which i cant do | 03:43 |
holstein | but the project is great, and built on ubuntu | 03:43 |
gglitch | Good advice. I've heard great things about the distro. | 03:43 |
gglitch | Lot of people in #osm. Thanks for the tip. Just getting back in the saddle, and going linux all the way this time. | 03:45 |
holstein | gglitch: come on in, the water is great :) | 03:47 |
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meganerd | anyone here have an RME 9652? | 07:54 |
ailo | Hey meganerd. | 07:59 |
ailo | meganerd, I believe some people at Planet CCRMA might be using that | 08:00 |
ailo | Or, the model before that | 08:01 |
meganerd | it has been solid for years, I am just having 24/96 issues. Sometimes it works, sometimes not. Frustrating. It also ate all my free time this week. | 08:03 |
meganerd | so no testing | 08:03 |
ailo | meganerd, Could it be something Linux specific, or cables? | 08:03 |
ailo | meganerd, So, you never had 24/96 issues before on Linux? | 08:05 |
meganerd | I just realized my hardware was better than I thought. I have been using this rig in 16/48 since I bought the card | 08:06 |
meganerd | I knew I could get 4 channels, but upon reading the manual it looks like I can get 8 | 08:07 |
ailo | meganerd, Not more? Isn't it ADAT? | 08:07 |
meganerd | I don't believe it is cables, just 4 optical cables, the HDSP conf says that both halves are locked (each ADAT channel can only carry 4 24/96) | 08:08 |
ailo | meganerd, Well, I seem to remember that the Fernando at Planet CCRMA has been using Hammerfall for years, so he might know some things about it | 08:09 |
meganerd | I never did really grok the HDSP mixer app, and this is where I think the problem is. I just have no idea how it really works | 08:09 |
ailo | meganerd, Have you ventured to #alsa ? | 08:09 |
meganerd | back at 16/48 for now. Not a really big deal, but when it works I get killer latency | 08:09 |
meganerd | no actually, you are going to laugh, but it only occured to me tonight to check in on IRC | 08:10 |
ailo | Yeah, I got 0.333ms from 16 frames/period, 96/24 but not very stable | 08:10 |
ailo | 32 frames/period is the lowest I can go | 08:10 |
ailo | Don't really need that even | 08:11 |
ailo | meganerd, alsa would feel the logical place to ask, but it's not easy to get help I find. You could try Planet CCRMA's mail list | 08:12 |
meganerd | for latency this card is awesome. I usually work at 64 frames from ~2 ms latency. no drops, even with disk IO (doing things like installing, compiling, and web browsing) | 08:12 |
meganerd | well, the mixer and control app are from ALSA, so that would make sense. | 08:12 |
ailo | meganerd, Fernando, the guy running Planet CCRMA might have first hand knowledge | 08:13 |
ailo | He usually answers the mail list | 08:13 |
meganerd | I will check in there later | 08:13 |
meganerd | I have some 11.04 testing to do first :) | 08:13 |
meganerd | I am really looking forward to seeing what the new computer can do | 08:14 |
ailo | meganerd, New? What arch? | 08:14 |
meganerd | ailo: Intel Sandy Bridge | 08:15 |
ailo | I need to do some actual latency testing. Plugging output to input. Would be nice to find out how accurate the ms value is on jackd | 08:15 |
ailo | meganerd, i7? | 08:17 |
meganerd | I did a bunch of midi testing a year ago. There was a guy making a ton of noise on the 64Studio mailing list. Not very surprising but USB has an order of magnitude more jitter | 08:17 |
meganerd | ailo: i5 | 08:17 |
ailo | meganerd, You mean usb midi is no godd? | 08:17 |
meganerd | ailo: I could not really justify the i7, given that my main desktop is a Lynnefield i7. | 08:17 |
meganerd | ailo: USB midi works, you just need to manage your expectations. | 08:18 |
ailo | meganerd, Luckily, I mostly use it for control, not so much for accurate sequencing | 08:18 |
meganerd | ailo: USB was never designed for low latency stuff. It is a HUB so contention with other peripherals can happen | 08:18 |
ailo | meganerd, I still have a couple of old pci cards that have game port midi | 08:19 |
meganerd | ailo: for HID work the latency is not noticble. Maybe an accomplished piano player might notice, but doing a bind test with a couple of keyboardists I know they could not tell the difference. | 08:20 |
meganerd | ailo: people often forget that our nervous system has latency issues :) | 08:20 |
ailo | meganerd, Do you remember what ms was the highest? | 08:20 |
meganerd | IIRC, the USB midi was in the 7-15 ms range. It was not as solid as the hardware midi on the 9652 | 08:21 |
ailo | meganerd, 15ms is noticable, I would say. But probably very hard to detect when playing. | 08:22 |
ailo | If it only happens now and then | 08:22 |
meganerd | ailo: that is my opinion as well | 08:22 |
Superstar | Is it possible to get Ubuntu Studio from Ubuntu 10.10? I cannot get the installation working for some reason | 09:34 |
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gglitch | Hello holstein et al | 18:40 |
holstein | gglitch: o/ | 19:31 |
josdem | Hello everybody, hoy are u today? | 23:52 |
* holstein is good | 23:58 | |
holstein | josdem: and you? | 23:58 |
josdem | I'm fine thank you, I'm looking for a good music player on ubuntu | 23:59 |
holstein | i use vlc | 23:59 |
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