[03:17] <virtu> finally mi first screenshot with my new mac
[03:17] <virtu> http://i.imgur.com/ix1c4.jpg
[03:17] <virtu> =)
[03:39] <gglitch> Hi people. Question, and apologies if this data is more readily available some other more obvious place: how do you think I'll do tracking very simple audio projects in Ubustu on a netbook, 1g ram?
[03:39] <holstein> gglitch: i do it
[03:39] <holstein> i have a 1.2 via chip with a gig of ram
[03:39] <holstein> and a nice firewire express card with TI chip
[03:39] <gglitch> Thanks. That's what I have, I think. Dell mini.
[03:39] <holstein> i can get around 5ms actually
[03:39] <gglitch> I'll be using an e-mu 0404
[03:40] <gglitch> usb
[03:40] <holstein> no xruns
[03:40] <holstein> but i usually dont push it that hard
[03:40] <gglitch> excellent. That's encouraging.
[03:40] <holstein> gglitch: if you can play around with jack settings a bit
[03:40] <holstein> you'll be fine
[03:40] <holstein> gglitch: check out #opensourcemusicians if you get a chance :)
[03:41] <gglitch> ok! thanks for the tip - I'll head on over. I've seen kxstudio mentioned in other threads - are you familiar with it?
[03:41] <holstein> gglitch: i use the KXsudio ppa's with lucid
[03:41] <holstein> studio*
[03:41] <holstein> falktx is an active contributor to our community :)
[03:42] <holstein> *falktx is the KX dev
[03:42] <gglitch> Since I'm going with a fresh install, would it be more expedient to just install kx? And thanks.
[03:42] <holstein> gglitch: the KX disc is live
[03:43] <holstein> so if you have the time, bandwidth and a disc
[03:43] <holstein> try it
[03:43] <holstein> its KDE, which i cant do
[03:43] <holstein> but the project is great, and built on ubuntu
[03:43] <gglitch> Good advice. I've heard great things about the distro.
[03:45] <gglitch> Lot of people in #osm. Thanks for the tip. Just getting back in the saddle, and going linux all the way this time.
[03:47] <holstein> gglitch: come on in, the water is great :)
[07:54] <meganerd> anyone here have an RME 9652?
[07:59] <ailo> Hey meganerd.
[08:00] <ailo> meganerd, I believe some people at Planet CCRMA might be using that
[08:01] <ailo> Or, the model before that
[08:03] <meganerd> it has been solid for years, I am just having 24/96 issues.  Sometimes it works, sometimes not.  Frustrating.  It also ate all my free time this week.
[08:03] <meganerd> so no testing
[08:03] <ailo> meganerd, Could it be something Linux specific, or cables?
[08:05] <ailo> meganerd, So, you never had 24/96 issues before on Linux?
[08:06] <meganerd> I just realized my hardware was better than I thought.  I have been using this rig in 16/48 since I bought the card
[08:07] <meganerd> I knew I could get 4 channels, but upon reading the manual it looks like I can get 8
[08:07] <ailo> meganerd, Not more? Isn't it ADAT?
[08:08] <meganerd> I don't believe it is cables, just 4 optical cables, the HDSP conf says that both halves are locked (each ADAT channel can only carry 4 24/96)
[08:09] <ailo> meganerd, Well, I seem to remember that the Fernando at Planet CCRMA has been using Hammerfall for years, so he might know some things about it
[08:09] <meganerd> I never did really grok the HDSP mixer app, and this is where I think the problem is.  I just have no idea how it really works
[08:09] <ailo> meganerd, Have you ventured to #alsa ?
[08:09] <meganerd> back at 16/48 for now.  Not a really big deal, but when it works I get killer latency
[08:10] <meganerd> no actually, you are going to laugh, but it only occured to me tonight to check in on IRC
[08:10] <ailo> Yeah, I got 0.333ms from 16 frames/period, 96/24 but not very stable
[08:10] <ailo> 32 frames/period is the lowest I can go
[08:11] <ailo> Don't really need that even
[08:12] <ailo> meganerd, alsa would feel the logical place to ask, but it's not easy to get help I find. You could try Planet CCRMA's mail list
[08:12] <meganerd> for latency this card is awesome.  I usually work at 64 frames from ~2 ms latency.  no drops, even with disk IO (doing things like installing, compiling, and web browsing)
[08:12] <meganerd> well, the mixer and control app are from ALSA, so that would make sense.
[08:13] <ailo> meganerd, Fernando, the guy running Planet CCRMA might have first hand knowledge
[08:13] <ailo> He usually answers the mail list
[08:13] <meganerd> I will check in there later
[08:13] <meganerd> I have some 11.04 testing to do first :)
[08:14] <meganerd> I am really looking forward to seeing what the new computer can do
[08:14] <ailo> meganerd, New? What arch?
[08:15] <meganerd> ailo: Intel Sandy Bridge
[08:15] <ailo> I need to do some actual latency testing. Plugging output to input. Would be nice to find out how accurate the ms value is on jackd
[08:17] <ailo> meganerd, i7?
[08:17] <meganerd> I did a bunch of midi testing a year ago.  There was a guy making a ton of noise on the 64Studio mailing list.  Not very surprising but USB has an order of magnitude more jitter
[08:17] <meganerd> ailo: i5
[08:17] <ailo> meganerd, You mean usb midi is no godd?
[08:17] <meganerd> ailo: I could not really justify the i7, given that my main desktop is a Lynnefield i7.
[08:18] <meganerd> ailo: USB midi works, you just need to manage your expectations.
[08:18] <ailo> meganerd, Luckily, I mostly use it for control, not so much for accurate sequencing
[08:18] <meganerd> ailo: USB was never designed for low latency stuff.  It is a HUB so contention with other peripherals can happen
[08:19] <ailo> meganerd, I still have a couple of old pci cards that have game port midi
[08:20] <meganerd> ailo: for HID work the latency is not noticble.  Maybe an accomplished piano player might notice, but doing a bind test with a couple of keyboardists I know they could not tell the difference.
[08:20] <meganerd> ailo: people often forget that our nervous system has latency issues :)
[08:20] <ailo> meganerd, Do you remember what ms was the highest?
[08:21] <meganerd> IIRC, the USB midi was in the 7-15 ms range.  It was not as solid as the hardware midi on the 9652
[08:22] <ailo> meganerd, 15ms is noticable, I would say. But probably very hard to detect when playing.
[08:22] <ailo> If it only happens now and then
[08:22] <meganerd> ailo: that is my opinion as well
[09:34] <Superstar> Is it possible to get Ubuntu Studio from Ubuntu 10.10? I cannot get the installation working for some reason
[18:40] <gglitch> Hello holstein et al
[19:31] <holstein> gglitch: o/
[23:52] <josdem> Hello everybody, hoy are u today?
[23:58]  * holstein is good
[23:58] <holstein> josdem: and you?
[23:59] <josdem> I'm fine thank you, I'm looking for a good music player on ubuntu
[23:59] <holstein> i use vlc