[00:41] kaffeine [00:41] wooops === uyuiyuiy is now known as m00se === m00se is now known as Guest60040 === Guest60040 is now known as `mOOse` === `mOOse` is now known as m00se === `mOOse` is now known as m00se [02:27] clear === `mOOse` is now known as m00se === `mOOse` is now known as m00se === `mOOse` is now known as m00se [05:24] so how impressed are we all gonna be with xubuntu 11.04 === `mOOse` is now known as m00se [06:00] lostson, #ubuntu+1 for natty please [06:01] wow really ? [06:10] How do I prune,shorten and or remove log files? [06:11] Is that a CLI /call? === thermi is now known as Thermi === Thermi is now known as thermi [07:46] How do i register my nick? [07:46] !register | ArisVer [07:46] ArisVer: Information about registering your nickname: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat/Registration - Type « /nick » to select your nickname. Registration help available by typing /join #freenode [07:47] In this channel? Or the freenode net? [07:47] #freenode === thermi is now known as Thermi [10:48] is there a memtest on 10.04lts? [10:51] afaik memtest is on every install cd [10:53] yes [10:57] thanx, i used usb btw. [12:59] do I need to relog or so in order for the theme manager to recognize the newly placed theme properly [12:59] it seems right now only the gtk part is recognized [12:59] (can't just try and relog atm as I'm doing a huge download :P) [13:00] window manager theme is set from window manager settings [13:02] metacity or emerald themes dont work with xfwm [13:03] well yeah... thing is the themes apparently have a part for gtk+2 and xfwm4... it recognizes only themes with a gtk+2 dir and then applies like half of the theme, so I figured it's not recognizing the xfwm4 part [13:03] oh right, a different sppot in settings :) [13:05] you are maybe missing some gtk-engine if themes don't work properly [13:05] nah I found out by your first statement... I need to apply the windows manager themes elsewhere, 'appearance' is not enough [13:05] so thanks :) [13:05] np [13:09] damn, some of these themes are ugly :P [13:11] Don t try Wildbrush [13:11] It will cause your system to not log in to the desktop [13:49] bah cum se comporta xubuntu ? [13:50] !es [13:50] En la mayoría de canales de Ubuntu se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español o charlar entra en el canal #ubuntu-es. Escribe "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y dale a enter. [13:50] xubuntu work good ? [13:50] excellent [13:50] Hostname self-lookup failed. [13:51] how resolve this problem? [13:51] the psybnc work fine [13:51] i try run eggdrop [13:51] and tell me Hostname self-lookup failed. [13:52] I would ask on #eggdrop [13:53] looks like you have to configure it first [13:53] the eggdrop is settup correct [13:53] but something from shell not right [13:53] Me_crying: I found this, but can't understand it well: http://logs.ubuntu-eu.org/free/2007/10/02/%23ubuntu-it.html [13:54] Me_crying: (look for 'self-lookup' on that page) [13:54] oke il visit now [13:54] Me_crying: http://www.egghelp.org/faq.htm#114 [13:54] i knwo that he say i know italiano [13:54] ok [14:06] ok [14:07] i resolve problem my brain was modified hostname on shell. now put it back and work great ok 10.x === `mOOse` is now known as m00se [15:13] hello, is this where one might find some xubuntu help? [15:14] yes [15:14] Please ask your question all in one line. All of us are volunteers and will attempt to answer if we know. [15:15] nice, I was wondering about my update manager in natty, getting hash sum mismatch on the repositories. Haven't added any new though. === `mOOse` is now known as m00se [15:25] here is my error message at pastebin: http://pastebin.com/cqXdRKWH [15:27] everything is updating pretty quick for natty, since we are trying to build final candidate images. I suspect you happened to hit right during a mirror update [15:27] I would try again [15:27] my connection is fine and I have tried disabling and re-enabling repos. Also tried different servers [15:27] I had this yesterday as well [15:28] getting it right now? [15:28] hang on... [15:29] charlie-tca: yes getting the same error now. [15:30] have the keys gotten messed up maybe? [15:32] no, I think the mirror is out of date/in the middle of trying to sync. I use us.archive.ubuntu.com and it is fine [15:32] Yours is is.archive.ubuntu.com and appears to be failing [15:32] I tried both my icelandic mirror and the main server, same results. [15:32] should i try the us one for now? [15:33] weird, maybe the key is messed up, somehow [15:33] sure, try the us one, just to see if that is it [15:33] must be, what's the cmmand agin to reimport it? [15:36] sure, ask me that. I don't know the name. I change my lists manually in /etc/apt/sources.list [15:36] !sources [15:36] The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/project/about-ubuntu/components - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendedSources for the recommended way to set up your repositories [15:37] does that tell? [15:44] charlie-tca: Changing to .us from .is seems to have solved this, will use that mirror until .is has been synced. Thanks:-) [15:44] You are welcome === blinky is now known as scannie [15:55] hi. i'm running xubuntu beta on a netbook... i installed maximus so i get maximized-windows with no titlebar, it works great. however, when i close firefox and open it again, it gets maximized but with the titlebar. if unmaximize it and maximize it back again the titlebar gets removed as it should... any advice? [15:57] hi. i'd like to install xubuntu 11.04 beta 2. will i have a lot of packages to upgrade after April 28 (xubuntu 11.04 stable comes out) [15:58] ? [15:58] and, after upgrade, my system will be clean as "normal" installation of 11.04-stable? [16:07] If you install 11.04 daily, there will not be a lot of packages to upgrade and it will be clean [16:08] !daily [16:08] Daily builds of the CD images of the current development version of Ubuntu are available at http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily/current/ and http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/ [16:15] you mean http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/daily/current/ ;) [16:15] ok, thanks for this information [16:16] btw. xubuntu natty daily iso is 623MB, compared to beta2 684MB.... [16:16] they have throw out something? [16:17] As changes are made, sizes change. [16:17] If it is really important, you should check each image file by file for the differences, maybe. [16:19] there have been about 100 or more changes a day since beta2, those are reflected in the final cd [16:28] charlie-tca: nice, that's much. how do you personally think- will it be a lot of changes with these 5-6 days? [16:29] If you install beta2, you should have more than 300 changes to upgrade [16:29] if you install the daily image, there are no changes today [16:30] yes I'm getting todays iso [16:30] well, we will see when final release comes out. [16:30] I would expect a couple of hours of upgrades with beta2 right now [16:30] today's image may be the final image [16:31] (may* [16:31] * * may * * ; it is subject to change, of course. [16:31] I just can't wait for that- have work to do. I'll install today's daily iso and just upgrade to final, if there will be any changes, as you say. [16:32] yeah. [16:53] ok ive got lucid i think its called how do i make it use my sound card and not my onboard? [16:54] 10.04 [16:54] its obviously not a simple fix.. [16:55] and i guess even though you choose a sound card in alsamixer it doesnt actually pick the sound card.. which is working properly from what i can tell seeing as i can see it in the mixer [16:56] i remember in ubuntu that you could select your soundcards idk why thats not a program in xubuntu [16:58] just rmmod module for onboard card? [16:58] then you should be able to use the same application in Xubuntu to select it [17:07] but what if i want to use my onboard again? [17:07] i dont liek that option [17:09] charlie-tca: thanks for your help. going now to do a clean install [17:09] see you around later [17:09] or were you talking to me? [17:15] Hi guys is it possible for me to run the xubuntu desktop without restarting or closing other programs? Like, some terminal command to open it and close my current one? [17:15] MK``: to start it, xfdesktop [17:16] I don't know the command to close the one you have now, perhaps try task manager to kill it? [17:16] what do I kill though, metacity? gnome-session? [17:17] What are you running? [17:17] normal ubuntu :) [17:19] ouch [17:19] I don't think you can then [17:20] you have to replace compiz and unity with xfwm4 and xfdesktop [17:20] I don't think it can be done without applications restarting [17:20] ok [17:20] lemme try it on another terminal [17:21] I am using gnome shell, not unity, btw [17:25] xfwm4 --replace properly replaced the window manager [17:37] well that was painful [17:38] I closed metacity and couldn't type, had to hack around and start it in this terminal from another [17:38] from what I have seen, anuytho [17:38] changing anything after gnome 3 is painful... got to reinstall just to remove it [17:40] well, I learned a lot :) how to disable and reenable window managers, just not desktop environments :P [17:48] any ideas as to how gmusicbrowser stores it's data? [17:55] Nope, but it has a channel here #gmusicbrowser, and the dev is hanging out there. [17:56] k, thanks [18:51] So I pulled out my old toshiba laptop. It has a xubuntu 6.10 on it and the update manager doesn't upgrade and there is no cd drive on it anymore, so I need to upgrade manually. Anyone willing to help me with this? [18:52] how much ram does it have? [18:54] according to free, I have 154mb [18:57] i would say not worth trying to get anything running with that [18:59] yeah I thought so, I think its best to run DSL on this instead. Thanks for the help anyways! === identify_tardis is now known as mark76 [19:51] is there a difference in the files on cdimage.ubuntu.com and cdimages.ubuntu.com ?... or are the URLs both just an alias for another location [19:55] both are the same place [19:55] Near as I can tell, they are the same server [19:55] Alright thanks. It seems it also has internal aliases [19:55] like, releases/lucid/release is the same as releases/10.04/release, etc. [19:55] yes [19:56] so that whichever one you are used to, you get the right image [19:57] Alright, thanks [19:57] wanted to make sure I got the right disk images and md5sums [19:59] rather, I think lucid/ maps to 10.04.2/ :P [20:51] gn8 === Thermi is now known as thermi [21:34] Anyone care to test the patch in https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfce4-session/+bug/711571 ? [21:34] Ubuntu bug 711571 in xfdesktop4 (Ubuntu Natty) "Xfce Shutdown/Restart doesn't work (logout instead)" [Low,Triaged] [21:44] Can anyone reliably reproduce the bug. I see it about one in 15 installs [21:45] I have seen it enough to say, yes, it exists. I just can't make it happen reliably enough to say if it gets fixed or not. [21:45] * charlie-tca is asking in #xubuntu-devel too. [21:46] arand: I see this thing lately on my upgrade tests in 64bit. It will about 3 hours to complete, but if it shows, I will test the patch [21:48] Ok, I had someone in #ubuntu+1 pointing it out, since it was a simple thing to pull down the patch I jumped on it. [21:48] I don't have a system to test on though.. [21:49] I have systems, I just can't get it happen often [21:50] workaround is easy, too. Just logout and restart/shutdown from gdm [21:51] Ok, hmm, upstream seemed to indicate it happening on logout as well, my wording in the changelog might not be completely accurate then.. [21:51] I saw jeromeg's note that he had a fix for it, though. [21:51] We only see it on reboot and shutdown [21:51] I madea debdiff of http://git.xfce.org/xfce/xfdesktop/commit/?id=bf07cc01b5457067303bdfad93433def548b6172 [21:52] but if I can reproduce the issue, I can try the patch. It just doesn't happen often for me. [21:52] On my main machine, running natty since alpha1, it happens every two or three weeks [21:52] Always a pain :/ [21:53] yup, but hard to then say it works [21:54] I think the guy I spoke to had it happening more often, he had to run ut will hopefully be around to test it.. [21:54] All it does when it hits is log the user out. You are left at the GDM screen, and just have to click the shutdown icon there [21:55] That would be good. I did thirty some installs for beta2 tests, and saw this issue one time [21:57] Hmm, it seems rather different from other reports: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=684188 https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=115507 http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=361571 [21:57] bugzilla.redhat.com bug 684188 in xorg-x11-server "[RV350] Xorg segfaults on reboot/shutdown from XFCE" [High,New] [21:57] bugs.gentoo.org bug 361571 in Applications "x11-base/xorg-server-1.10.0.901 segfaults with xf86-video-nouveau when logging out from desktop" [Normal,New] [21:58] I read those, and each one describes the same thing, reboot or shutdown results in sending the user to the login screen, where they can then shutdown or restart from. === bazhang_ is now known as bazhang [22:01] Hmm, the redhat one does, yea, but then again it claims it's happening consistently, and there seems to be yet some systems where it doesn't happen at all.. [22:02] yup [22:03] but the workaround is so simple, it might be a zero-day sru if we can get it tested [22:04] No chance to get it in before release by now then? [22:04] I don't know if we can get a freeze exception for it [22:04] wait, universe is not frozen yet, is it? [22:05] I have no idea. [22:05] I don't think we are, so, yes, there is a possibility [22:05] main is frozen now, but universe is not yet [22:33] hi everyone, I'm just instulling Xubuntu [22:51] will there be a 11.04 Xubuntu also released on the 28th or will it come later? [22:53] it will be the same time as Ubuntu 11.04 releases [23:16] thanks!