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luca__ciao00:12
surunveriGuess not :D00:18
James147surunveri: there is planeshift00:20
surunveriyeah.. i tried that didnt like it :D00:22
surunveribut yea i guess it's a choice :D00:23
kromiumHow to install Mongonel application launcher in Kubuntu?01:20
policyqhow do you get openoffice.org to use kde widgets/toolkit01:58
James147policyq: you use koffice ^^02:05
policyqheh. hey isn't koffice now calligra? and does it open .odp?02:05
James147policyq: though there are ways to make openoffice look more like a kde application, it wont actually use the kde widgets ^^02:05
James147callifra?02:05
James147calligra?02:06
policyqJames147: i thought kubuntu had patches for kde widgets02:06
James147policyq: it has patches to intergrate it better with kde ^^02:06
policyqhttp://dot.kde.org/2010/12/06/kde-announces-calligra-suite02:07
policyqJames147: ok good. well i must have a wrong package then. i am using openoffice.org-impress02:08
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policyqbasso: so you're saying the only thing you change is going from ubuntu to kubuntu?03:35
bassopolicyq: its like this, when mounting a server with ssh in ubuntu, i can stream videofiles remotly using VLC, but in kubuntu, it copies the file to a tmp folder and plays it from there03:37
policyqbasso: are you mounting the same way03:37
bassopolicyq: in ubuntu i use the "Connect to server thingi" in the gnome panel, and in kubuntu i have tried using "add entry" and "Network - Add Network Folder"03:39
policyqbasso: by the way, vlc does act differently depending on whether it detects you're in a kde session. it may use KIO if your'e in KDE03:40
policyqbasso: try starting vlc like this 'env KDE_FULL_SESSION= vlc'03:40
policyqand see if it does the same thing03:40
policyqbasso: also, mounting differently could cause the difference too03:41
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Magnussonis anyone really good with themeing or making your desktop pretty? in particular i'm trying ti do something about this flat grey border around applications like firefox and dolphin, etc. if someone knows what area of applications i'm talking about and could tell me what those are called at least that would help a lot too05:00
valorieMagnusson: try either gtk-oxygen, or oxygen-gtk05:06
valorieI can't remember which it is05:06
Magnussonvalorie: what's that area called? do you know? :(05:06
Magnussonor what setting is it exactly to change?05:07
joseph__hi05:09
valorieMagnusson: kde is based on Qt05:12
valoriethe gtk apps don't look so good, so that package makes them look like Oxygen05:12
Magnussonvalorie: ah ha, that's a start! (sorry not very experienced with linux) so basically to improve their looks i should look for qt themes eh?05:13
valoriemore info about it here: http://kde-look.org/content/show.php/?content=13621605:13
valoriethat package will do it for you05:14
Magnussonthanks a lot :D05:14
valorieI suggest using packagemanager or muon rather than downloading from there, however05:14
valorieI hope you like it05:14
valorie:-)05:14
joseph__cool05:15
Magnussoni looked at muon, do you like it? i was hesitant to install05:15
joseph__http://distrowatch.com/05:18
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DaskreechMagnusson: Why were you hesitant?05:26
MagnussonDaskreech: oh just ignorance lol. didnt know how well it worked, bugs, etc05:27
Magnussoni just reinstalled so i'm trying to keep this system as nice and stable as possible05:27
DaskreechMagnusson: :)05:27
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Daskreechah well to each his own05:27
DaskreechI try and break mine as soon as I can05:27
MagnussonDaskreech: hahah well i'm not afraid of it necessarily, obviously i've broken a few systems. i'd just like to avoid the hassle if possible and keep my system nice and streamlined since i just repopped my linux cherry05:29
DaskreechWasn't aware you could redo that :)05:30
DaskreechMuon is far away enough from the functional working libraries that you should be able to try it05:31
Daskreechif you don't like it then removing or purging it doesn't harm anything05:31
Daskreechas a good linux program should behave05:31
Magnussonlol well a few years ago i was running mandrake exclusively for about 6 months, then quit and built a new computer, and just stuck with windows, soo all that i learned during that time pretty much went poof. but being the nerd i am got curious again so had to reinstall05:32
Magnussonand see what kind of technological trouble i could get into05:32
valorieheh, I started with Mandrake as well05:35
valoriebut never left05:35
valoriewin2kpro was my last windows05:35
valoriealthough this laptop had some kind of win on it before I blew it away05:36
valoriesort of by mistake05:36
Magnussonhah i was shocked i changed myself, but i'm just kind of experimenting with different distros now. :)  yeah i was fortunate enough when i first started linux to have some guy mail me all his old distro disks. mandrake 7.2 i think was my first05:36
Magnussonlol fun mistake05:36
DaskreechI've somehow always managed to have a copy of windows. Almost never use them though05:36
Daskreech7.2 was nice05:37
Magnussonman i don't think there's a word for how badly i peed my pants with happy the first time i got it installed and got startx to work05:39
eduardoplnothing like a little pee of joy05:40
Magnussonindeed05:41
eduardoplwarm and yellow, rushing down your pants05:43
eduardoplthat's how you celebrate a big victory05:43
Daskreechyeah part of the problems with Linux today is too many things just work05:44
Magnussonhahaha05:44
MagnussonDaskreech>eehhh, i can't say i'm not a fan of that :)05:44
DaskreechDetracts from the beauty of the man behind the curtain05:44
Magnussoni'd rather they just work first, then i figure out HOW05:44
Magnussonas i'm hacking the system to pieces05:45
DaskreechThat works as well05:45
Magnussongot no problem getting under the hood, but i'd at least like to have the option of just having it "work" as well :)05:45
Magnussonspeaking of which...is there like a kde sound theme utility?05:46
DaskreechWhen we start getting things like telepathy and GHNS throughout the system it's just going to be this aggravting bliss of you thinking about things and they happen05:46
Daskreechumm sound?05:47
Daskreechhmm never seen one. Tried KDE-look.org ?05:47
Magnussonlol Daskreech, yeah "what would happen if i change this line...." then lots of profanity as your system crashes05:47
Magnussonwell i have lots of sound themes already, i just didn't know if there was a central way to select between them05:47
Magnussonbut yes i got them from kde look05:48
DaskreechWell that's the thing most stuff now has editable backends but you'll never think of going there05:48
DaskreechCourse on the other hand it's way easier for people to jump in and help05:54
Magnussonyeah exactly, that's what i've been most impressed by, it's amazing the wealth of people that are available and skilled enough to help05:55
DaskreechYeah open source methods are always going to win long term06:01
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Daskreechhi sre-su06:15
sre-suHi Daskreech06:15
Daskreechhi joseph__06:15
sre-suwassup?06:15
joseph__hi06:16
joseph__i am useing kde 4.606:16
joseph__hi ubuntu06:18
Daskreechnot a lot sre-su06:19
Daskreechjoseph__: Welcome. how are things?06:19
joseph__cool06:21
joseph__fine06:22
Daskreechhmm06:24
asobihi dask^^06:25
Daskreechhi asobi :)06:26
asobihow do you edit the backend?06:26
Daskreechasobi: Which backend?06:29
asobiany?06:29
asobi<Daskreech> Well that's the thing most stuff now has editable backends but you'll never think of going there06:29
Daskreechasobi: Depends on the backend :)06:30
asobiwhat's something simple06:30
dmattitopic is announcing 4.5.4, very old news06:30
Daskreechdmatti: No that's correct06:30
dmattiDaskreech: hm, but no news mentioning it06:31
dmattiexcept for december SC release06:31
Daskreechdmatti: That's the official supported one in Main06:32
Daskreechasobi: dpkg is one I guess06:32
asobihow do i get to it06:32
Daskreechasobi: look in /etc/apt/sources.list06:33
dmattiDaskreech: I get it now06:33
Daskreechdmatti: :)06:33
asobithen what?06:33
Daskreechasobi: Well you can edit it to get new servers or remove ones you have06:36
asobii like how it keeps track of how i installed it first06:36
asobibut i don't know any servers06:37
Daskreechasobi: there are some in there already06:42
DaskreechIf there is a line with a # in front of it then it is commented out06:42
DaskreechThat line will not be used. If you want you can try to put a comment in front of a few lines and type apt-get update06:42
asobii mean, what new servers would i add?06:42
Daskreechtake them out and then save and run apt-get update again06:43
Daskreech You will see the servers turn up in the descriptions of the updates06:43
asobithat would mean i will get less updates?06:43
Daskreechasobi: if you put a comment in front of all the lines then you will get no updates (and can't install things easily from the internet)06:46
Daskreechadding a line can add anywhere from 1 to 5 servers06:46
DaskreechMore servers in theory add more updates06:47
asobiit looks like i have outdated servers06:56
asobialso, it didn't offer any updates?06:57
mmx_hi07:21
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Daskreechasobi: sorry stepped away .  Why would you say you have outdated servers?07:51
reberhi. what is the name of the package that shows in kde new hotplug devices ? (usb, cdrom,etc.) please ?08:29
reberyou know when you insert an usb device, a window pops08:29
tsimpsonit's part of plasma, it's the Device Notifier widget08:30
_BS_Remind me ... how to limit the number of prior versions update_grub uses?09:13
rebertsimpson, i don't find the plasma package. What is the package name that includes plasma ?09:14
_BS_Or for that matter ... how many os versions get installed / maintained? e.g. New one comes down, one gets deleted from system / grub menu?09:15
tsimpsonreber: it's part of the core of KDE, if you are running KDE you have plasma running09:15
rebertsimpson, ok. *but* on my debian, new plugged devices don't pop any windows. Any ideas of what it could be ?09:16
reberwhereas i don't have this problem on my other ubuntu09:17
tsimpsonis the applet there? it should either be in the system tray, or next to it, with a USB-like icon09:17
tsimpsonother than that, it uses DBus and maybe HAL (though I'm not sure it requires HAL these days)09:18
_BS_@reber: try 'kdeplasma' (in a search in synaptic?)09:19
tsimpsonthe plasma executable is in plasma-desktop, but if you are running a KDE desktop, you already have plasma09:20
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NathanaelGhi all10:15
Daskreechhi10:15
NathanaelGYou know the difference between a  whore and microsoft?10:18
NathanaelGthere's none - both screw their customers10:19
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Macerhello. i was wondering if there was a way to keep kmail in the background without activating that it always be in the taskbar12:01
Maceri set it to use the message indicator.. i don't want it to close i just want it to minimize to message indicator like kopete does12:01
tertl3hello12:51
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weiwww.yahoo.com.tw13:29
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BluesKajHi folks14:04
goodtimehello BluesKaj14:15
BluesKajhi goodtime14:16
goodtimehey hows it going14:16
goodtimei just got up like 1 hour ago14:16
goodtimewent to sleep at 3am14:16
goodtimewas up by 814:17
* BluesKaj nods14:17
* goodtime is listening to New American Century [Audacious]14:20
goodtimehmmm14:20
goodtimegot to fix that14:20
BluesKajamarok is ok , just a bit clunky ...trying too hard to be like wmp14:22
goodtimeBluesKaj: you should run  apt-get install audacious14:43
goodtimeits just like winamp but looks cooler14:43
BluesKajI've run audacious a few times , but havent tried it lately , I'll check it out14:45
BluesKajgoodtime, ^14:45
goodtimeits a good mp3 player14:47
BluesKajseems to play flac files very well too :)14:51
goodtimeyep yep :)14:51
* BluesKaj is not an mp3 fan , try to keep the music as lossless aspossible14:51
BluesKajtries14:52
BluesKajI used audacity to copy a bunch of vinyl ...it worked fine but a lotta work . Patience is the key in that kind of endeavour :)14:54
goodtimeyeah14:55
BluesKajdecided that since I already owned the vinyl i wouldn't be breaking any laws here if I DL'd the albums via ktorrent.14:58
goodtimeperhaps14:59
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BluesKajit's legal here , so far15:00
goodtimenot here15:00
BluesKajUS senators are are puttting pressure on us to conform to US copyright laws , they don't seem to undestand that we're a soveriegn country :)15:01
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BluesKajbut that statement will just attract the offtopic cops , so I'll stop15:02
goodtimeright15:03
tertl3_offtopic polizia15:08
tertl3_minute men15:08
BluesKajthere's some leniency here if the room isn't too busy15:11
tertl3_yeah15:16
tertl3_just some chitter chatttter15:16
paolinuxhi15:30
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BluesKajFYI , offtopic chat at #kubuntu-offtopic :)15:35
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cutawayI am hoping to get help installing kubuntu over Internet15:46
cutawayI have booted via PXE15:47
cutawaybut I need to install from a mirror15:47
cutawaywhere do I point the Ubuntu Installer so that it installs kubuntu instead of ubunut15:47
cutaway?15:47
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itsme__hi everyone, how do i get the menu bar back in konversation (ctrl m) is NOT working)17:02
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BluesKajitsme__, try right click , choose menubar17:03
itsme__no go BluesKaj17:04
itsme__its like ctrl m 'sees' that it there, but it isnt :P17:05
BluesKajchecj=k that your KB isn't locked17:05
BluesKajerr check17:05
itsme__kbord locked?17:05
BluesKajlook for lock key , usually beside the f1217:06
BluesKajitsme__, right click maintoolbar ?17:16
itsme__not working BluesKaj17:17
itsme__ill try reinstalling konv. thanks BluesKaj17:19
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Eiriksvinhi people i need a bit of help if you care to help a noob18:39
c2tarunEiriksvin: just ask :)18:40
c2tarunsomeone will surely reply18:40
Eiriksvinthanks18:40
c2tarun!question18:40
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)18:40
EiriksvinI have a Netgear Rangemax WPN111 and i have installed ndiswrapper and the driver, but even though it recognises the hardware the blue light wont come on and I cant get the wireless connection check box18:42
Eiriksvinwhat do i do... Im trying to leave windows in the dust, but without internet i cant18:42
c2tarunEiriksvin: which release are you using?18:43
Eiriksvinkubuntu18:43
Eiriksvinndiswrapper 1.56 i think18:44
Eiriksvinand i have tried both drivers18:44
c2tarunEiriksvin: which release?18:44
Eiriksvinidk?18:44
c2tarunEiriksvin: if you are not sure about your release run lsb_release -a on your terminal18:45
Eiriksvinhmm, i guess ill have to find out and come back later18:45
c2tarunEiriksvin: not likely, are you on your system now?18:46
Eiriksvinim on winblows right now18:46
c2tarunohh.... do you have the iso or disk from which you installed?18:46
Eiriksvinit was installed by someone my little brother knows and he has the disk18:47
Eiriksvini think its 9.somethin18:47
Eiriksvinits the one that starts with a k18:47
Eiriksvinkoala18:48
Eiriksvin?18:48
c2tarunEiriksvin: 9.something :/ pretty old, I guess you should try a newer version. it may support your chipset properly and I think it will solve most of your problems.18:48
c2tarunEiriksvin: yup its pretty old :)18:48
Eiriksvinhow do i update without internat or the disk?18:48
Eiriksvinis there a deb?18:49
c2tarunEiriksvin: well I'll suggest that, try to get wired connection working first. once you are into kubuntu and with internet connection on it you can upgrade to any release :)18:49
EiriksvinI only have wifi18:50
Eiriksvinits an apartment building18:50
c2tarunEiriksvin: hmm.... you can download the iso of newer version from windows and then install it on that partition.18:50
c2tarun!iso18:50
ubottuTo mount an ISO disc image, type « sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint> » - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.18:50
c2taruncrap :/18:51
Eiriksvinwell i guess i can try to bring it to my friends house... is that a good idea?18:51
SnowhogNatty Narwhal, KDE 4.6.2, rekonq 0.7.0. Opening http://kde-look.org, and any subsequent page on the site, causes a Save As window to open with the file safari.jsp identified. I believe this 'bug' has been reported, but does anyone have a clue as to when it will be resolved, or a temporary fix to prevent it?18:51
Eiriksvinbbl18:52
c2tarunEiriksvin: that will help :) but may be too much trouble for you. if your internet speed is good, simply  download the iso :) and install not a big deal18:52
BluesKajEiriksvin, you can download the iso live-cd here : www.ubuntu,com18:52
BluesKajor here www.kubuntu.com18:53
BluesKajwhich is better18:53
BluesKajoops18:57
* BluesKaj is a little slow on the uptake today18:58
JuJuBeeNeed help.  After an update this early am, my system is locking up and restarting on its own.19:03
BluesKajJuJuBee, do you have access to the grub menu ?19:07
JuJuBeeYes19:08
JuJuBeeI am currently logged in via gnome19:08
katsrcwhat are the packages that have "-snapshot" next to them?19:09
BluesKajok JuJuBee choose the recovery kernel , and in the dialog "repair broken packages" , then reboot19:09
JuJuBeeBluesKaj: OK I will try that.19:10
katsrcdoes it mean it's the latest build?19:10
JuJuBeekatsrc:  how do I find out?19:10
JuJuBeekatsrc: using 10.1019:10
katsrcwut19:10
JuJuBeekatsrc: were you telling me about -snapshot?19:11
katsrcno19:11
JuJuBeesry19:11
katsrcnp19:11
BluesKajkatsrc, in the package manager the snapshot option , will show a thumbnail of the app window19:17
katsrcBluesKaj: oh, ok. thanks!19:17
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SnowhogAs to the rekonq safari.jsp issue, a workaround to prevent the Save As window opening, just add *.intellitxt.com to the Ad Block Manual Filters. See https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=26862819:52
ubottuKDE bug 268628 in general "Rekonq wants to download "safari jsp" on some pages" [Normal,Assigned]19:52
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sagatboa tarde20:06
sagatkubuntu ou gnome ?20:06
BluesKaj!pt20:07
ubottuPor favor, use #ubuntu-br para ajuda em português. Para entrar no canal por favor faça "/join #ubuntu-br" sem as aspas. Para a comunidade local portuguêsa, use #ubuntu-pt. Obrigado.20:07
sagatobrigado20:07
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_chris_euh... ya qqn?20:51
_chris_je fais fuir tout le monde...20:52
_chris_\o/20:52
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_chris_*euh...20:58
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_chris_euh..20:59
_chris_ouais...20:59
_chris_bah j'suis alone20:59
_chris_^^20:59
_chris_lol21:25
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clay_hello all, has anyone run into issue w/ mounting NFS or SMB shares after the recent Maverick Meerkat update?21:35
_chris_ouais surement21:39
_chris_i didn't understant anything because i'm french.21:39
clay_:/21:39
_chris_but if you can explane things most... clearly for me, that would be better ^^21:40
_chris_sorry...21:40
_chris_more*21:40
clay_bonjour a tous, quelqu'un at-il courir en question w / montage NFS ou SMB part après la récente mise à jour Maverick Meerkat?21:40
clay_:D21:40
_chris_ah, c'est mieur21:41
_chris_mieux21:41
James147!fr | clay_21:41
ubottuclay_: Ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en francais, merci de rejoindre #ubuntu-fr, ou #ubuntu-qc. Merci.21:41
_chris_merde. sésolé21:41
_chris_désolé21:41
clay_I do speak English :) I was translating for chris21:42
mtenenhi21:49
clay_hello21:50
mtenenhow do you like kubuntu 11.04 beta 2 so far?21:51
clay_its nice but I am having an issue w/ SMB and NFS shares21:52
amir_varastehhi , i wanna connect to my Yahoo ID through Pidgin , but i'm receiving this error everytime : no internet connection . what should i do ?21:52
clay_been having an issue since the recent Maverick Meerkat update21:52
mteneni see.  i don't try to connect to windows so i wouldn't know :)21:52
clay_I would check for firewall rules blocking connections on the port used by Pidgin21:53
clay_Well its not just windows21:53
clay_Windows is SMB21:53
amir_varastehhi , i wanna connect to my Yahoo ID through Pidgin , but i'm receiving this error everytime : no internet connection . what should i do ?21:53
clay_I had been using NFS for so long without any issues and as soon as this update rolled through the mounts would just freeze any file manager that I was using21:53
clay_@ amir check your firewall21:54
amir_varastehsomeone help me please21:54
amir_varastehi'm in Kubuntu now21:54
amir_varastehhow can i check that ?21:54
mtenenso did you roll back to the LTS?21:54
clay_firwall on router21:54
clay_no21:54
clay_I went to Fedora 15 testing to check out the new Gnome321:54
clay_same issue21:54
clay_My laptop was even affected21:55
mtenenyeah, and no configuration choices in gnome 321:55
clay_I think it must have been a Kernel update or X.org update21:55
amir_varastehno that's not the problem. becaouse i can use Kopete !21:56
clay_Cause I bet if I went back to an older version or even debian I bet it would work21:56
clay_Windows 7 can even mount my NFS shares from FreeNas21:57
clay_but not my linux boxes lol, thats irony right there21:57
mtenenoh so you have western digital external raid drives or something like that?21:58
clay_amir check the port used by Kopete and make sure Pidgin is using the same port for Yahoo21:58
clay_nope nothing that fancy21:58
clay_I have a FreeNAS box that i made and setup NFS shares so my Desktop and Laptop will connect to them21:58
clay_I had seen some issues Posted but they are all over the place21:59
clay_I guess the only thing I had found is that it may have something to do w/ 10/100/1000 cards22:00
clay_which my entire network is gigabit22:00
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mtenenwhat about zeroconf? its supposed to be better.22:00
clay_not exactly sure what that is22:00
clay_i had seen it before but never touched it22:01
mteneni saw it on the kubuntu website, as an alternative to nfs and smb22:01
clay_is it a different protocol?22:02
BluesKajclay_, can you ssh into the NAS ?22:02
mtenenyes i believe it is.22:02
clay_yes I can SSH into it22:04
mtenenmaybe i will setup a freenas server and play around with it, i do have a spare dell sitting here.22:04
clay_FreeNAS is pretty cool22:04
clay_I just recently upgraded to their 8 version that is still in testing. I mostly got it for the uPnP for the Xbox, that works OK sometimes22:05
mtenencool22:06
clay_but getting anything non-Microsoft to work with a Microsoft product is kind of hard anyway22:06
clay_and if ZeroConf is a different protocol then it won't work w/ FreeNAS since its FreeBSD based22:07
mtenenwow, the iso is only 105mb?22:07
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clay_yea, it started out as just an image that you write to a Compact Flash card for embeded systems but now you can install it like any other Unix OS22:08
mteneni'm downloading it now22:09
clay_check out M0n0wall and PFSense they are firewall/routers that you can use on like a regular desktop machine22:09
mteneni will22:10
adrian_bergHow do you highlight some code and insert comments for those lines of code?22:13
adrian_bergin kate22:13
clay_put # in from of the text to comment it out or to make a comment22:14
clay_not sure what you meant by highlight22:14
clay_front* not from22:15
MK``how do I edit mouse and keyboard settings in KDE?22:24
BluesKajMK``, system settings/input devices22:30
MK``Thanks BluesKaj22:34
BluesKajkmenu/apps/settings/system settings/input devices to be more precise , MK`` , but I bet you alkready found it anyay :)22:35
BluesKajanyway22:35
MK``I'm actually in a gnome session right now and couldn't find it in the menu ^^22:35
MK``I keep bouncing back and forth22:36
BluesKajUnity or just gnome ?22:36
MK``GNOME Shell22:36
BluesKajok22:36
BluesKajwell , gotta go22:37
MK``seeya22:37
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DrDamnitUpgraded from ubuntu to kubuntu via apt-get, now secondary monitor is not recognized. First monitor works fine, but dual screens is broken. How do I fix this?23:24
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